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George Carsonygen
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:46:00 -
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The new patch has increased the level 5 missions LP rewards significantly, has anyone checked out how much the average l5 pays now? |
Death4free
Caldari Assault Fleet
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:57:00 -
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its OVER NINETHOUSAND!!! Eve information kiosk
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Yonos
e X i l e
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:59:00 -
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patch notes say they increased the LP on lvl 5 missions significantly.
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Kyle Cataclysm
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Posted - 2008.06.10 22:54:00 -
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Originally by: Yonos patch notes say they increased the LP on lvl 5 missions significantly.
no way!
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Oakrayven
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.06.10 23:47:00 -
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Edited by: Oakrayven on 10/06/2008 23:47:31
Originally by: Kyle Cataclysm
Originally by: Yonos patch notes say they increased the LP on lvl 5 missions significantly.
no way!
Given CCPs love of pre-nerfing things though a signigicant increase is anything over 5%. . .
Just kidding! ***** **** Trust Aura. Aura is Your Friend.
If your too paranoid to play EVE. . .
Then your not paranoid ENOUGH to play EVE |
ParisHilton
Sluts With Barges
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Posted - 2008.06.10 23:52:00 -
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There's got to be someone who has run them by now. What are the LP's like?
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Sergei Andropov
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Posted - 2008.06.10 23:56:00 -
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One million dollars \o/
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plastic sauce
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Posted - 2008.06.11 02:01:00 -
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I checked a quality 12 one out. the isk with bonus was worth about 5.1 mil. The LP reward was a bit more than 44,000 |
Reptzo
Channel 4 News Team
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Posted - 2008.06.11 04:07:00 -
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my lvl 5 agent is offering a 6 mil isk missions with 54 k lp, just to add to the averages |
Jmanis Catharg
Stickler inc
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Posted - 2008.06.11 04:34:00 -
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... wow...
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Pwett
QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2008.06.11 15:10:00 -
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Edited by: Pwett on 11/06/2008 15:09:55 well now... that REALLY changes what's on the table. |
Zhang Ramses
Chaos From Order
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Posted - 2008.06.11 18:21:00 -
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How much were L5 missions giving out prior to this patch? Is 55k LP a significant improvement? |
IronPants
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Posted - 2008.06.11 18:29:00 -
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I seem to remember the 2 L5s I participated in were around 15k LP been a while though.. |
Bom Bolenath
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Posted - 2008.06.11 18:36:00 -
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with the amarr agent in sahtogas (or is it oyonata) i was getting 15K+ LPs before. just to repeat, this is actually "significant," beyond .o5. |
Elhina Novae
Sky's Edge deadspace society
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Posted - 2008.06.11 20:29:00 -
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40 - 50k LP... That is just incredible if you can run these. Maybe people will be attracted too level 5's in gangs too farm LP stuff and implants now? |
Flycutter
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Posted - 2008.06.11 20:57:00 -
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Are there any good guides out there for lvl 5 missions? |
Drone AI1
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Posted - 2008.06.11 22:39:00 -
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I was going through the DB of level 5 agents and it seems there are 0 level 5 kill agents (e.g. command, surv, security, internal security) for gallente and like 5-6 for each of the other 3 races. Is this info out of date or do CCP plan to add level 5 kill agents for gallente? |
Xorxarle
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Posted - 2008.06.12 00:19:00 -
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Regarding the Gallente the info must be out of date as I have a L5 agent for internal security which was never there before, in the same station there are 3 L4 Q20 administration agents as well.
The two missions I looked at were 48k and 45k LP
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Joe Starbreaker
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Posted - 2008.06.12 00:29:00 -
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Khanid navy has a couple. One's in Nandeza and the other I think is in Vezila. |
Zhang Ramses
Chaos From Order
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Posted - 2008.06.12 00:54:00 -
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Do L5 missions always send you into lowsec? I see a few low quality agents that are 4-6 jumps from lowsec...
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Katashi Ishizuka
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Posted - 2008.06.12 01:32:00 -
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Originally by: Zhang Ramses
Do L5 missions always send you into lowsec? I see a few low quality agents that are 4-6 jumps from lowsec...
There are no highsec level 5 agents. I say the payout is now appropriate to the hassle of doing lo-sec missions.
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Pacific Theme
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Posted - 2008.06.12 02:05:00 -
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Originally by: Katashi I****uka There are no highsec level 5 agents.
Who's Aelwara Duld then? |
Mioelnir
KULT Production Atrum Tempestas Foedus
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Posted - 2008.06.12 03:14:00 -
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There are agent-search sites out there that use an old datadump.
These often contain the old level 5 agents from before these were introduced and enabled.
All level 5 agents in game are in lowsec and quality 12. |
Pacific Theme
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Posted - 2008.06.12 03:18:00 -
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Originally by: Mioelnir There are agent-search sites out there that use an old datadump.
These often contain the old level 5 agents from before these were introduced and enabled.
All level 5 agents in game are in lowsec and quality 12.
Are there any sites with current data?
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ollobrains2
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Posted - 2008.06.12 03:53:00 -
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what ships are required to run these level 5 missions |
Fist1
Conclave of Shawdows StarFleet Federation
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Posted - 2008.06.12 04:43:00 -
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Originally by: Zhang Ramses
Do L5 missions always send you into lowsec? I see a few low quality agents that are 4-6 jumps from lowsec...
all lvl 5 agents are in low sec. but out of the 5 lvl 5's I have done, 3 of them were in a 0.5 system.
and yes, payout for me before was 15K LP and I just checked and it was 46K LP for me |
Tsanse Kinske
WeMeanYouKnowHarm
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Posted - 2008.06.12 04:45:00 -
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Originally by: Zhang Ramses
Do L5 missions always send you into lowsec? I see a few low quality agents that are 4-6 jumps from lowsec...
While it's true that they're all in losec, apparently not all of them will always -send- you to losec... |
Fist1
Conclave of Shawdows StarFleet Federation
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Posted - 2008.06.12 04:46:00 -
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Originally by: ollobrains2 what ships are required to run these level 5 missions
not sure about any other missions than that of caldari but you will have to have a passive tanker(IE need a pilot that can use caldari ships) so he can get the warp in agro from the heavy T3 neut towers. I have ran 5 lvl 5's for caldari and everyone had no less than 4 neut towers and the last one even had 8. drake's cap was gone in about 5 seconds lol |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.06.12 06:54:00 -
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Originally by: Fist1
Originally by: ollobrains2 what ships are required to run these level 5 missions
not sure about any other missions than that of caldari but you will have to have a passive tanker(IE need a pilot that can use caldari ships) so he can get the warp in agro from the heavy T3 neut towers. I have ran 5 lvl 5's for caldari and everyone had no less than 4 neut towers and the last one even had 8. drake's cap was gone in about 5 seconds lol
passive tank sponge, some will require some remote boosting, and then damage. |
Zaqar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.06.12 12:37:00 -
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*rubs chin*
Interesting... |
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CCP Greyscale
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Posted - 2008.06.12 19:19:00 -
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I'm thinking from reading this thread that the bug-squashing we did in EA is leading to payouts that people think are more satisfactory? |
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El Libre
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Posted - 2008.06.12 19:41:00 -
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I have no first hand knowledge of this, but I don't see how it could be worth it. 50k lp still breaks down to 12.5k per person if you were to run the level 5's with 4 people. Not sure the time it would take, but purely for the sake of LP gain, you'd be better off running 3's or 4's? |
Ranges
Against all Rules Atrum Tempestas Foedus
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Posted - 2008.06.12 20:24:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Greyscale I'm thinking from reading this thread that the bug-squashing we did in EA is leading to payouts that people think are more satisfactory?
Ermm.. perhaps i'm being a total numbskull, but isnt this specific thread about L5 missions? (and isn't EA a lvl 4 mission, among others?)
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FT Diomedes
Ductus Exemplo
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Posted - 2008.06.12 21:05:00 -
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Originally by: Ranges
Originally by: CCP Greyscale I'm thinking from reading this thread that the bug-squashing we did in EA is leading to payouts that people think are more satisfactory?
Ermm.. perhaps i'm being a total numbskull, but isnt this specific thread about L5 missions? (and isn't EA a lvl 4 mission, among others?)
Empyrean Age.
12.5k LP per player is really good - depending on the social skills of the characters involved. That's 1.5 times more than I make running missions in high sec for a Level 4, Q 18 agent in a 0.5 system (~8600 LP for a good mission with good, but not maxed Social skills). With max Social skills for the person getting the Level 5 mission, they could well be worth it.
The time involved isn't really that great in Level 5s, from my understanding. The problem is the pirates ganking you on your way to the mission. |
Fist1
Conclave of Shawdows StarFleet Federation
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Posted - 2008.06.12 21:12:00 -
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Originally by: FT Diomedes
Originally by: Ranges
Originally by: CCP Greyscale The time involved isn't really that great in Level 5s, from my understanding. The problem is the pirates ganking you on your way to the mission.
yeah the problem with the 2 prior caldari agents is that they are next to Taisy, which is gatecamp hell. I am hoping that with the new 3rd lvl 5 agent in black rise and the black rise region itself, some of the pirates will leave for black rise, but I doubt it. |
Faekurias
Black Legion Command Red Dawn Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.12 22:39:00 -
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cheaper navy stuff, woo \o/ |
deepb
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Posted - 2008.06.13 01:09:00 -
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Quote: I'm thinking from reading this thread that the bug-squashing we did in EA is leading to payouts that people think are more satisfactory?
Yes, absolutely.
Just to clarify, you said "bug squashing" instead of "reward tuning" - does that mean that this was how it was supposed to be all along?
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Jolliejoe
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Posted - 2008.06.13 08:31:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Greyscale I'm thinking from reading this thread that the bug-squashing we did in EA is leading to payouts that people think are more satisfactory?
What? So you are actually surprised that some bugs your fixed, fixed something else you didn't know about??? Hmm... doesn't sound like you know what you are doing.
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Tsoldrin Beychae
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Posted - 2008.06.13 10:23:00 -
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Originally by: Jolliejoe
Originally by: CCP Greyscale I'm thinking from reading this thread that the bug-squashing we did in EA is leading to payouts that people think are more satisfactory?
What? So you are actually surprised that some bugs your fixed, fixed something else you didn't know about??? Hmm... doesn't sound like you know what you are doing.
I think he is saying that for once people seem happy with some of the alterations in the EA expansion instead of the standard CCP = phail over EA whine threads.
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CCP Greyscale
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Posted - 2008.06.13 10:35:00 -
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As per comments I just made in this thread, we realized while digging through the rewards code recently that it wasn't properly scaling the rewards by level in the case of level 5 missions. This issue was corrected and the rewards increased to the levels you're seeing today.
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Mother Drone
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Posted - 2008.06.13 12:17:00 -
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45-55k LPs are a lot. A lot of nothing. There are already enough LPs ingame but it lacks of available faction tags AND good LP-shop offers. Modules and implants are little more worth than the required amount of ISK for the shop offer. And the value of LPs will decrease even more...
Problem: Unbalanced lvl 5 missions. Solution: Increased LP rewards. Result: Lulz!
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Jason Edwards
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Posted - 2008.06.13 14:31:00 -
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Originally by: Mother Drone
45-55k LPs are a lot. A lot of nothing. There are already enough LPs ingame but it lacks of available faction tags AND good LP-shop offers. Modules and implants are little more worth than the required amount of ISK for the shop offer. And the value of LPs will decrease even more...
Problem: Unbalanced lvl 5 missions. Solution: Increased LP rewards. Result: Lulz!
Ya all this does is severely depeciate the value of LP as it is. We need tons more lp store offers at significant levels to soak up all the lp.
Thanatos Navy Issue Chimera ' Nid ' Archon ' |
Malcentis Tal
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Posted - 2008.06.13 15:58:00 -
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Would love to see better LP store rewards or a drop in the amount of tags etc for the high end stuff. You could be sitting on a heap of LPs but have nothing to buy. |
FT Diomedes
Ductus Exemplo
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Posted - 2008.06.13 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: Malcentis Tal Would love to see better LP store rewards or a drop in the amount of tags etc for the high end stuff. You could be sitting on a heap of LPs but have nothing to buy.
Yes. I spent a million Gallente LP last month. And I have a million Minmatar LP to spend this month. It would be easier to unload it if tags were more plentiful and offers were better, but I still have found a market for converting it to ISK at a decent rate (the good old 1000 ISK/LP standard). ------------
Improvize. Adapt. Overcome. |
Death4free
Caldari Assault Fleet
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Posted - 2008.06.13 16:59:00 -
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Originally by: Mother Drone
45-55k LPs are a lot. A lot of nothing. There are already enough LPs ingame but it lacks of available faction tags AND good LP-shop offers. Modules and implants are little more worth than the required amount of ISK for the shop offer. And the value of LPs will decrease even more...
Problem: Unbalanced lvl 5 missions. Solution: Increased LP rewards. Result: Lulz!
go away and die in a corner you little whiner....
seriousely when level 5s were released everyone complained about how crap they were....now they have been buffed you are whining.... |
Muff Alt
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Posted - 2008.06.21 11:41:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Greyscale I'm thinking from reading this thread that the bug-squashing we did in EA is leading to payouts that people think are more satisfactory?
No its about bloody time CCP decided to make them worth while or you could nerf them and see that people will just not run them....
Risk Vs Reward everyone keeps belting on about.. well no you have the reward and more pirates will come to the areas thus the risk will be higher.
CCP dont nerf them otherwise ppl will return to Motsu
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Boz Well
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Posted - 2008.06.21 15:43:00 -
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If you think balancing level 5's is going to crash the LP market, you're a tard. Only a handful of people will go do level 5's and probably they will mostly do it for fun, not farming. It's just that now they get comparable reward from level 5's as they would have gotten from level 4's. This will have little, if any, impact on the LP market and will at least make level 5's worth considering.
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Android Mindslave
Mindworks
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Posted - 2008.06.22 01:46:00 -
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I thought all of the ships in the faction warfare missions were dropping tags.
Shouldn't that increase the tag supply or is there something I'm missing?
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Boz Dura
Raptus Regaliter
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Posted - 2008.06.22 04:55:00 -
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Me and my corp m8 have run several lvl5's both with carriers and when there have been gates, with BS's and logistics ships. We're averaging 33/35k LP's and about 5mil (+any bounties). we've had quite a few tags from the various faction ships they do seem plentyful now (although i wouldn't complain if it were increased).
Deffo worth doing in my opinion, you can make more isk (directly) from lvl4's but the LP reward is worth more to us.
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Mr Toril
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2008.06.22 13:03:00 -
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Originally by: FT Diomedes
12.5k LP per player is really good - depending on the social skills of the characters involved. That's 1.5 times more than I make running missions in high sec for a Level 4, Q 18 agent in a 0.5 system (~8600 LP for a good mission with good, but not maxed Social skills). With max Social skills for the person getting the Level 5 mission, they could well be worth it.
The time involved isn't really that great in Level 5s, from my understanding. The problem is the pirates ganking you on your way to the mission.
12.5 k lp is not that much. I get that from most lvl 4 missions in low sec. You are better of soloing lvl 4 missions in low sec than lvl 5s.
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Khlitouris RegusII
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Posted - 2008.06.22 17:39:00 -
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Originally by: Zhang Ramses
How much were L5 missions giving out prior to this patch? Is 55k LP a significant improvement?
i only did one lvl 5 when they were released reward was summat like 15k isk and 400 lp why i never did another one so a HUGE improvement now
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tropic35
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Posted - 2008.06.23 20:09:00 -
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I posted this elsewhere but i think i can add it to this thread also as it covers a few issues. Hopefully thats ok.
First of all let me make something very clear, I am a carebear. I most evenings/weekends do lvl 4 missions with my corp mates or solo.
I have no interest in Empyrean Age or loosing my stuff in pointless PVP.
I enjoy having 2 billion ISK in my wallet with a hanger full of expensive ships kitted out with T2/factional equipment at my disposal. Also I think its great my training time is cut down by the fact my head is full of implants.
I don't want to PVP, I am a PVE'er.
I run three accounts and each one has over 35 million skill points.
OK that's the background. Now for my impossible wish list.
1.Greater quantity of level 4 missions available 2.Harder level 5 missions available in high sec 3.Less repeats of same mission within same session 4.More variety of quests
I did a comparison between EVE and WOW with my wife who plays it. This is because this is another MMORPG popular currently.
She at her level 70 gets to choose from apx 50 zones (factional) in eve its 4. I.e. nagrand, duskwood, ironforge, as opposed to Amarr, caldari, Minmatar etc
She has approximately 1200 quests (missions) to choose from we from lvl 4 agents have 45. I.e. available between 60-70 on WOW.
She can choose which missions she wants to do, we do the ones offered or loose standing with agent. I know what your all going to say ôplay wow thenö but thats not the point I am trying to make. I dont want to play WOW, I want to play a better EVE.
If what I want is impossible and its just about the pvp/grief/loss that is in the heart of EVE then I am sorry it took me nearly 4 years to learn the lesson.
YuenLee aka Tropic35 aka Galatea Lee |
Shadowluna
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Posted - 2008.06.23 22:03:00 -
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Originally by: tropic35
I did a comparison between EVE and WOW with my wife who plays it. This is because this is another MMORPG popular currently.
She at her level 70 gets to choose from apx 50 zones (factional) in eve its 4. I.e. nagrand, duskwood, ironforge, as opposed to Amarr, caldari, Minmatar etc
She has approximately 1200 quests (missions) to choose from we from lvl 4 agents have 45. I.e. available between 60-70 on WOW.
She can choose which missions she wants to do, we do the ones offered or loose standing with agent.
Completely off topic and at the risk of (probably) being called a troll/flamer/whatever ... As a long time WoW player I just have this incredible urge to reply to a post like this.
First of all, not each zone in WoW has it's own faction. It would actually be more accurate to compare the zones in WoW to each solarsystem in EVE. EVE will be the big winner here.
I'm not going to go into a big discussion on factions but EVE got more than 4. Something you should know after claiming you've been playing this game for 4 years.
And then the final point: the missions. In WoW you can choose from 1200 quests but after they're done they cannot be repeated. Yes, they now have some repeatable 'daily' quests in WoW but they are even more braindead and boring than EVE missions.
So please, next time don't compare 2 games when you obviously havent even played one of them. It will only make you look stupid. |
Blind Man
Point Blank Carebears
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Posted - 2008.06.23 22:27:00 -
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Originally by: tropic35 If what I want is impossible and its just about the pvp/grief/loss that is in the heart of EVE then I am sorry it took me nearly 4 years to learn the lesson.
so am I ╟
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heyitsaminingalt
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Posted - 2008.07.10 19:09:00 -
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Originally by: tropic35 If what I want is impossible and its just about the pvp/grief/loss that is in the heart of EVE then I am sorry it took me nearly 4 years to learn the lesson.
A) Have you run ALL of the COSMOS areas? B) Gone in to 0.0 to scan for Escalating Deadspace complexes? C) Tried hacking/archeology sub-professions/exploration D) Gone after the L5 missions?
and failing all of that
D) Realized Eve -is- primarily about the PvP? It's great fun. I don't see why you, sitting on 2billion ISK, and a hanger full of faction fit ships, are worried about losing a few. Go research some PvP fits, find a corp that helps people get in to PvP, and try it! |
Aiko Intaki
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Posted - 2008.07.10 20:01:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Greyscale I'm thinking from reading this thread that the bug-squashing we did in EA is leading to payouts that people think are more satisfactory?
The biggest barrier for me is their exclusive presence in low sec, and the ease with which drone-using ships are probed out while missioning. This is not a complaint, mind you... I'm rather content running L4 missions in 0.5 space at the moment. I'm merely stating what is keeping me, personally, from regularly trying L5 missions. In the end, the reward would have to be disproportionately huge (and out of balance) for me to risk running them regularly.
Putting very low quality L5 agents in high sec space, or making drone-using ships comparably difficult to probe out to non-drone using ships would probably be a more sound approach to getting me to run L5 missions than buffing the rewards at this point.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.07.11 00:31:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Greyscale I'm thinking from reading this thread that the bug-squashing we did in EA is leading to payouts that people think are more satisfactory?
I would think you guys would have the tools to see if people are running them or not
as for tags run level 5s, they are supposed to drop a lot
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Vibora BR
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.07.11 02:47:00 -
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Guys,
I don't want to whine but I can run a L4 mission in high sec by myself without a very big risk and make like 9000 LP.
So run a L5 mission in 4 guys through Low sec and earn like 13000 LPs is not something that sound good to me.
I like that it has been improved but seems as it is still missing some tweak.
Just my 2 cents.
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Carniflex
Caldari StarHunt Fallout Project
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Posted - 2008.07.11 02:55:00 -
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Originally by: Vibora BR Guys,
I don't want to whine but I can run a L4 mission in high sec by myself without a very big risk and make like 9000 LP.
So run a L5 mission in 4 guys through Low sec and earn like 13000 LPs is not something that sound good to me.
I like that it has been improved but seems as it is still missing some tweak.
Just my 2 cents.
That 9000 was multiplied by approx factor of 5 in recent patch so if you would be liking to do lev 5 missions then at least from LP side it is ok.
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Vibora BR
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.07.11 03:00:00 -
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Originally by: Carniflex
Originally by: Vibora BR Guys,
I don't want to whine but I can run a L4 mission in high sec by myself without a very big risk and make like 9000 LP.
So run a L5 mission in 4 guys through Low sec and earn like 13000 LPs is not something that sound good to me.
I like that it has been improved but seems as it is still missing some tweak.
Just my 2 cents.
That 9000 was multiplied by approx factor of 5 in recent patch so if you would be liking to do lev 5 missions then at least from LP side it is ok.
Sorry, but I missed your point.
Alone I can make 9000 LPs in a L4 mission in High Sec.
I need other 4 guys to run a L5 mission in Low sec and earn 15000 Lp each.
So the risk doesn't worth the 6000 LPs you get more.
Adding to this in a L4 in high sec I can come back with my salvager and make a lot of money, in a L5 it is also pretty risk.
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Mendolorian Girl
Caldari The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
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Posted - 2008.07.11 09:03:00 -
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Originally by: Vibora BR I need other 4 guys to run a L5 mission in Low sec and earn 15000 Lp each.
Alot of people (yourself included apparently) seem to missunderstand the difficulty of L5s. The DPS actually isn't that much more than a full aggro Worlds Collide (infact i'd argue that it's probably less), the only thing that makes L5s different to a lvl4 is the fact that the tank has 0 cap throughout.
So get yourself a nice T2 ship fitted with passive hardners and 2 domi's and you're golden. I was doing lvl5s last night with a corp mate, we had 1 Damnation as the tank and 2 Domi's as the damage/rep. We could perma-run a total of 3 remote armor reps but never needed more than 2, and rarely needed more than one. This was against Drones btw, so the Damnation had to omni-tank, if you pick missions where you only need to tank 2 damage types then it's zomgeasy.
So it's possible to run a lvl5 with just two ships, thus soloable by 1 player. Those 60k (with the right skills) LPs per mission (which takes maybe 40mins for the good ones) now look a whole lot more attractive right?
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.07.11 13:54:00 -
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Originally by: Mendolorian Girl
Originally by: Vibora BR I need other 4 guys to run a L5 mission in Low sec and earn 15000 Lp each.
Alot of people (yourself included apparently) seem to missunderstand the difficulty of L5s. The DPS actually isn't that much more than a full aggro Worlds Collide (infact i'd argue that it's probably less), the only thing that makes L5s different to a lvl4 is the fact that the tank has 0 cap throughout.
So get yourself a nice T2 ship fitted with passive hardners and 2 domi's and you're golden. I was doing lvl5s last night with a corp mate, we had 1 Damnation as the tank and 2 Domi's as the damage/rep. We could perma-run a total of 3 remote armor reps but never needed more than 2, and rarely needed more than one. This was against Drones btw, so the Damnation had to omni-tank, if you pick missions where you only need to tank 2 damage types then it's zomgeasy.
So it's possible to run a lvl5 with just two ships, thus soloable by 1 player. Those 60k (with the right skills) LPs per mission (which takes maybe 40mins for the good ones) now look a whole lot more attractive right?
but the guys in rookie chat said don't go to lowsex its full of pirates that will blow you up!!!!
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