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Derrick Munroe
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:36:00 -
[361] - Quote
May O'Neez wrote: - the accounts are probably paid by PLEX therefore don't have any actual money value
If PLEX had no monetary value CCP wouldn't be making money selling them. |
Tanaka Aiko
ICE is Coming to EVE Goonswarm Federation
60
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:36:00 -
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so CCP, is the problem a possible EULA breach, or your old self wanting to come back ?
this PR move really feels like pre-incarna CCP, it feels like a Jesus PR move. a PR move against his current subscribers, but for future potential customers...
have you already forgotten what happened last year ? does only the 20% guys who were fired are the ones who remember ? |
Alexandra Alt
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
131
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:36:00 -
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Andski wrote:Krutoj, a CSM 6 alternate who was temp-banned for RMT, was not removed from the council.
Should have been IMO, explains a lot tbh. |
Kingston Black
Indiscipline Incorporated
8
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:36:00 -
[364] - Quote
This is a regrettable affair perhaps goonswarm could get another member to represent the 10k goon votes.
May I suggest Kartoon as a replacement? |
Drahgo
Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team
1
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:37:00 -
[365] - Quote
~10058~
CCP trying to look tough...when in reality all they're doing is kowtowing to a bunch of asshats. |
Shoot2kilI
The Milkmen Test Alliance Please Ignore
15
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:37:00 -
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Remember that time that CCP made you sign a EULA/TOS when you landed in Iceland to participate in the alliance panel?
Yeah. Me either.
Make up your mind CCP. You are either going to be that terrible company from 6 months ago that made me unsub in the first place, or the company that you were last week which had me convinced that re-subbing my 8 accounts was going to be worth it. You seem to fail to understand that "news" outlets like massively do not care for Eve Online. Eve is not World of Warcraft, and those faggots cannot keep their cheetoh stained hands on the keyboard long enough to remotely understand this game. You guys are always going to have a bad public image because of YOUR attempt at MT. Unironically throwing the person under the bus who arguably helped patch this sinking ship is... narcissism in it's own way.
ITT CCP is killing itself. |
Taihbea
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
60
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:37:00 -
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GunslingerBob wrote:I can't be bothered to read this entire threadnaught, but I'll have you know this:
Unless CCP does the correct thing and holds a re-vote for ALL positions, I will be dropping this game like a steaming pile of elephant dung.
For a company that spouts about democracy and whatnot, they sure do love to pull one over on their customers.
Mang you really need to grow up an HTFU. Don;t cross lines you are not allowed to and ALL WILL BE FINE...
Now... Goon tears are so ******* awesome!! |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3745
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:37:00 -
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The only appropriate solution is to either leave Mittani on the council or start a new election. Disenfranchising a vocal group of players with 10,058 - 20% of the voting base - accounts between them is never, ever acceptable. "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Regrind
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:38:00 -
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Way to far CCP. |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:38:00 -
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J3ssica Alba wrote:So what goons are saying is that 10058 votes gives people the right to break rules/laws/ethics amirite?
You're a NPC alt. Get out. |
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Lenier Chenal
Meritoc Industries Inc. SRS.
9
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:39:00 -
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Andski wrote:The only appropriate solution is to either leave Mittani on the council or start a new election. Disenfranchising a vocal group of players with 10,058 - 20% of the voting base - accounts between them is never, ever acceptable.
This. |
Arrs Grazznic
Poena Executive Solutions
16
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:39:00 -
[372] - Quote
Rather interesting to see that those against this decision are goons and pets. Ignore those partisan postings and the general consensus is 'well done CCP'.
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Kosh Seere
Dissonance Corp BLACK-MARK
8
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:39:00 -
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Abyss Azizora wrote:First time in years I've heard such WONDERFUL news on the eve forum. I think I'll do a little dance.
On a sidenote, I really don't care about what happened, I see that as "normal" in eve honestly nowadays. But if that thing got a goon rear end firmly parted by a boot on his way out the door... Then it's a freaking celebration to me. Where's a party emoticon when you need it? Aww.... did someone get scammed? |
OninoTimmo
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
50
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:40:00 -
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:popcorn:
keep it coming, goonNOOBS, i've almost reached climax |
Panda Name
Republic University Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:41:00 -
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please don't let riverini get a csm spot due to this.
please. |
Rebnok
Body Count Inc. Pandemic Legion
12
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:41:00 -
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Joepopo wrote:J3ssica Alba wrote:So what goons are saying is that 10058 votes gives people the right to break rules/laws/ethics amirite? You're a NPC alt. Get out. I am not lol 10,058 GUUD FIGHT |
Lenier Chenal
Meritoc Industries Inc. SRS.
9
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:41:00 -
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Arrs Grazznic wrote:Rather interesting to see that those against this decision are goons and pets. Ignore those partisan postings and the general consensus is 'well done CCP'.
I'm neither, but I think this is ******* pathetic. CCP letting fail gaming sites and Darius's pets ruin the best CSM head ever? Not good. |
Alexandra Alt
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
131
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:41:00 -
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Corpesthorn wrote:So instead of coming up with a viable solution CCP took the easiest way out..? 10,058
It's not the easiest way out, as I pointed earlier in another thread, it's the ONLY way out.
CCP cannot give in to a power block of players like goon specially when a very serious unethical behavior of a public figure and press figure related to the game was made publicly and on live stream.
It's either that or they will be opening an exception everyone will call upon in the future and they'll also be labeled as someone who can be manipulated by a mass of players that actually fail on the objective side of reasoning.
Be bullies, bada**es, whatever you want, in game, in character, you do that in public, to a miriad of a crowd you face the consequences of social ethical bounds. |
Temulkar Blaine
Liberation Army BricK sQuAD.
43
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:41:00 -
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Townsend Harris wrote:Temulkar Blaine wrote:I applaud CCP for this decision, I will explain why before I am accused of being a political tool.
In the EU we have clear laws about behaviour on the internet and in public that differ dramatically from the US. in America your right to freedom of speech is guarenteed by the first ammendment. In Europe freedom of speech is limited by the law in ways your country does not it seems understand. Before you start to call us all fascists as has been said on some threads, think about the history of the last century in Europe and ask yourself why we have limited freedom of speech to protect against hate. :words:
Again I would actually like to stress this is not a political post not a wum, This is actually somthing very good that CCP has done in sending out a clear message that certain behaviour will not be tolerated. It sucks for Alexander yes Im sure but he will bounce back from it if he wants to. 1- You're a political tool 2- Please explain how remarks made live via microphone can by CYBER bullying? 3- Does the EU Have laws against bullying? Are they EU Wide 4- I take back #1 you're just a tool.
1. predictable 2. under the EU data protectin act "when information and communication technologies are used to harrass individuals it is cyber harrassment. A live stream on the internet classes as a communication technology. 3. Yes the EU has a number of laws against bullying that are EU wide. 4. Thank you to your matire response to a serious issue both in society and us as a gaming community. |
Rebnok
Body Count Inc. Pandemic Legion
12
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:42:00 -
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also can we start a titan buff thread now? |
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Jim Luc
Rule of Five
16
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:42:00 -
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This is ridiculous, and I'm very sad for CCP right now. This had nothing to do with some guy using "suicide" to implore pity, but rather people who personally hate Alex, and Goons in general. I could care less about the Goons in-game or out - but honestly I'm very disappointed in CCP that they would not see through this charade. |
Bloodpetal
Mimidae Risk Solutions
559
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:42:00 -
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Only part of the TOS that i'm seeing relevant here.
Quote:You may encounter and converse with people who are rude, offensive, belligerent, and who may use indecent, obscene, and/or threatening or harassing language while playing the Game. You may report any instances of such behavior to CCP. CCP will investigate and take such measures as CCP, in its sole judgment, determines are reasonable under the circumstances. CCP does not guarantee that you will not encounter behavior of others that you may view as insulting, demeaning, offensive, threatening or harassing. You assume all risk associated with playing the Game, and CCP assumes no responsibility for the conduct of any other players, and shall not be liable to you or any other person for their conduct.
And that says that CCP will not be responsible.
Quote:You will report out-of-game issues regarding harassment, such as threatening phone calls or correspondence, to your local law enforcement officials or Internet provider. CCP will not reveal personal information about its subscribers to unauthorized individuals. We are not responsible for actions taken by our subscribers that occur outside the jurisdiction of our game servers or web site.
Arguably :
Quote:You may not abuse, harass or threaten another player or authorized representative of CCP, including customer service personnel and volunteers. This includes, but is not limited to: petitioning with false information in an attempt to gain from it or have someone else suffer from it; sending excessive e-mails, EVE-mails or petitions; obstructing CCP Employees from doing their jobs; refusal to follow the instructions of a CCP Employee; or implying favoritism by a CCP Employee.
But he actually didn't THREATEN the individual himself. He said something stupid about other peoples choosing to do so of their own volition. Which should be handled on a case by case basis.
I understand CCP is all powerful in this matter. But seriously...
Removing him from the CSM is out of line.
Mimidae Risk Solutions Recruiting |
Acadia Reina
B0rthole Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:43:00 -
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Atomic Option wrote:Total overreaction on all sides.
The only person reacting appropriately (by not reacting) is The Wis himself, the noble miner "victim" whose opinion does not appear to have been consulted.
People always tell each other to kill themselves in online games. It comes with the territory and anyone who takes it seriously is a douche. That it happened in public doesn't make it worse or different.
If you can't take a joke, **** you.
This is exactly right. This entire storm is apparently built entirely on principle, taking no account of the reality of the situation. The supposed victim is nonplussed and generally indifferent. The apology was made and restitution given. Situation solved.
Everything I see now against The Mittani is just meta-gaming by his enemies. Maybe it will be effective, but it's also disingenuous to The Wis and to the supposed ethical right that so many people are chest-beating about.
People and CCP need to HTFU. |
MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
213
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:43:00 -
[384] - Quote
Andski wrote:The only appropriate solution is to either leave Mittani on the council or start a new election. Disenfranchising a vocal group of players with 10,058 - 20% of the voting base - accounts between them is never, ever acceptable.
no its only 3% of the voting base!
get over your self goon...
seriously!
one year and then its all mittenz again... yay
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Khanh'rhh
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
971
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:43:00 -
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CCP,
Can you confirm you were also holding everyone who just happened to be on camera at fanfest accountable to the TOS/EULA? Family members / spouses who don't play the game .. the press .. ?
I am struggling to see how you can possibly think your terms of service apply to what someone says out of game, on camera when it is YOU and your providers who choose what is broadcast and when.
There is absolutely NO legal precedent for it. - "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |
Lt Pizi
Dark-Rising
27
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:43:00 -
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Kingston Black wrote:This is a regrettable affair perhaps goonswarm could get another member to represent the 10k goon votes.
May I suggest Kartoon as a replacement?
this CSM are expected to adhere to the EULA/TOS and carry themselves in a manner that sets an example for other players to follow. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/What_is_the_CSM
CCP:-á the mittani has set an example -áto follow ? |
Hulemand
x13 Raiden.
2
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:43:00 -
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Joepopo wrote:J3ssica Alba wrote:So what goons are saying is that 10058 votes gives people the right to break rules/laws/ethics amirite? You're a NPC alt. Get out.
You're a Goon. You should get out as well! |
The Crimson Invaider
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
43
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:43:00 -
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Bloodpetal wrote:Only part of the TOS that i'm seeing relevant here. Quote:You may encounter and converse with people who are rude, offensive, belligerent, and who may use indecent, obscene, and/or threatening or harassing language while playing the Game. You may report any instances of such behavior to CCP. CCP will investigate and take such measures as CCP, in its sole judgment, determines are reasonable under the circumstances. CCP does not guarantee that you will not encounter behavior of others that you may view as insulting, demeaning, offensive, threatening or harassing. You assume all risk associated with playing the Game, and CCP assumes no responsibility for the conduct of any other players, and shall not be liable to you or any other person for their conduct. And that says that CCP will not be responsible. Quote:You will report out-of-game issues regarding harassment, such as threatening phone calls or correspondence, to your local law enforcement officials or Internet provider. CCP will not reveal personal information about its subscribers to unauthorized individuals. We are not responsible for actions taken by our subscribers that occur outside the jurisdiction of our game servers or web site.
Arguably : Quote:You may not abuse, harass or threaten another player or authorized representative of CCP, including customer service personnel and volunteers. This includes, but is not limited to: petitioning with false information in an attempt to gain from it or have someone else suffer from it; sending excessive e-mails, EVE-mails or petitions; obstructing CCP Employees from doing their jobs; refusal to follow the instructions of a CCP Employee; or implying favoritism by a CCP Employee. But he actually didn't THREATEN the individual himself. He said something stupid about other peoples choosing to do so of their own volition. Which should be handled on a case by case basis. I understand CCP is all powerful in this matter. But seriously... Removing him from the CSM is out of line. Thanks for clearing that up. CCP ****** up. |
Tsalaroth
BRG Corp Acquisition Of Empire
4
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:43:00 -
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MeBiatch wrote:Wibla wrote:I demand a re-election for CSM7, as CCP has de-facto invalidated a big chunk of the votes cast. you are just a goon... your vote/opionion does not count... run along pubbie nice 5th page snippah!
What about mine? And no, this isn't a goon alt.
No matter who did what, I do not like the fact that 10,000 votes ceased to matter. They either need to bone up and reverse that bit - maybe claim it was a typo, we'll never tell - or let those who voted for him cast a new vote. |
Daelorn
State War Academy Caldari State
32
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:44:00 -
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Are you guys being ******* serious right now?
I'm all for harsh EVE, nasty language, I don't care about racial slurs or anything of that nature. But basically telling a player to kill himself is over the ******* line. All of you butthurt over your ******* votes are idiots when we're talking about a person's real life here, in the end this is all a stupid internet spaceship game. I don't care if you tell a person to go kill themselves IRL to a person that isn't suicidal and would never do it, it is still over the line.
CCP handled this perfectly in my opinion and I applaud Mittani for what he did in stepping down and apologizing too, but still he needs to be punished. |
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