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emepror
Gallente
X.E.N.O.
OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.16 18:48:00 -
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you cant fly the tengu by itself....you need the 5 component parts or it will not work
that is why it has such bad setups, you need to use the components to improve them
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N.
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Posted - 2009.02.16 19:16:00 -
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 Originally by: Reven Cordelle
Originally by: Demitria Fernir
They won't hit the market at first, and their initial cost will be more than you pay for a carrier. that's enough for you to stop talking about it and leave it alone, when with 60m you can fit a way better BC for PVP
So what you're saying is.. the most exciting game mechanic for some time will be unobtainable for a good 75 - 80% of the playerbase.
Nice.
Yeah... so?
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Hegbard
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Posted - 2009.02.16 20:39:00 -
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Originally by: emepror
you cant fly the tengu by itself....you need the 5 component parts or it will not work
that is why it has such bad setups, you need to use the components to improve them
You actually haven't tried Sisi yet, have you?
You can't even assemble the ship without the subsystems.
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Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2009.02.16 20:45:00 -
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Current performance of the protheus without any bonuses to recon probably puts it at the cost effectivness of two thorax's This is with place holder stats and 0 bonuses once again.
Considering how difficult sleepers are, considering a 4 battleship sleeper with support requires two carriers with support to take on with minmal losses thier effort probably those in the risk of 5 billion risk factor, so we have to find out how much it salvage per sleeper battleship that is and we can come up with a rough estimate of the artifacts for reverse engineering.
Fullerites will be at the gas clouds minable in the sleeper plexes this ups up the price tag of those too but not terribly to high.
Ore cost of course will also be a factor
then med level of processing this stuff into more complex stuff will cost the amount of fuel required to operate that tower + 50% for inconvience fees.
For the first several copies they will want a return on blue prints however.... there are no BPOs to invent from they all have to be reversed engineered so bo ho the cost of a bpc will have to equal that of the data cores instructions thus dvide that by per run and add another 50% to that cost for inconvience fees.
Then the usual 5% market fee and toss in profits required.
I am having high hopes that the hull is about 2 billion a pop with the subsystems couple hunded million a peice until sleepers are effectivly killable.
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Karrade Krise
Galatic P0RN Starz
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Posted - 2009.02.16 21:10:00 -
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Originally by: emepror
you cant fly the tengu by itself....you need the 5 component parts or it will not work
that is why it has such bad setups, you need to use the components to improve them
Wat?
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Clair Bear
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.02.16 21:23:00 -
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All depends on size of wormholes, really. Sleepers need to be blobbable with capships to make them cost effective. What 2 carriers struggle with 20 carriers will be able to chain.
My point is: this stuff WILL be farmed if it's at all valuable bringing prices within reach for those willing to fly the stuff and/or sell a GTC or ten.
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Erick Voliffe
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2009.02.16 21:34:00 -
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Who cares about price, we're all overflowing with isk right?  I think the price will settle at marauder level.
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Laura Steel
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.02.16 21:44:00 -
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It was suggested in another topic that the sleepers on sisi are not accurate in how difficult they will be on TQ. I am inclined to agree. Apparently they were the same as 10/10 boss rats with new models.
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Cor Aidan
Imperium Forces
Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.02.16 21:58:00 -
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Originally by: Nova Fox
Current performance of the protheus without any bonuses to recon probably puts it at the cost effectivness of two thorax's This is with place holder stats and 0 bonuses once again.
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I am having high hopes that the hull is about 2 billion a pop with the subsystems couple hunded million a peice until sleepers are effectivly killable.
If there are pilots willing to spend billions for something only as effective as two Thoraxes...or heck, even as cost effective as a tier-3 battleship...I would call that a supremely irrational system.
I guess that means it will fit in with the rest of New Eden quite well then. 
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Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar
Kernel of War
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2009.02.16 22:11:00 -
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Cruisers < BS
T3 cruisers price > BS price.
lol...
CCP I WANT THE SAME THING YOU TOOK
Was it drug or alcohol ?
Fetchez la vache !
moar(tm) > soon(tm) \o/
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Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2009.02.16 22:17:00 -
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Originally by: Cor Aidan
Originally by: Nova Fox
Current performance of the protheus without any bonuses to recon probably puts it at the cost effectivness of two thorax's This is with place holder stats and 0 bonuses once again.
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I am having high hopes that the hull is about 2 billion a pop with the subsystems couple hunded million a peice until sleepers are effectivly killable.
If there are pilots willing to spend billions for something only as effective as two Thoraxes...or heck, even as cost effective as a tier-3 battleship...I would call that a supremely irrational system.
I guess that means it will fit in with the rest of New Eden quite well then.
Thats with 0 bonuses and place holder stats, Im sure if you start tossing in bonuses youd get something far more effective, also my protheus puts several of my frigates to shame on speed alone.
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