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Izzy Lizzy
Gallente
Mean Corp
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Posted - 2009.02.20 22:04:00 -
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 Originally by: BiggestT
...but this just seems a waste of time for the police, who could be doing something far more important.
Like giving someone a ticket for plates that expired 8 months ago? F'ing racket!!!
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John'eh
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2009.02.24 03:43:00 -
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How could it be so illegal to text in class that somebody can get jail time?
That does not make any sense.
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Atomos Darksun
Damage Incorporated.
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Posted - 2009.02.24 03:47:00 -
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Arrested != Jail time.
She got to go home and it will probably end in a fine for disobeying and lying to an officer of the law.
Originally by: Amoxin
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Trexan
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Posted - 2009.02.24 11:58:00 -
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OP you have really no idea. Law Enforcement at schools? Got to be joking.
When you reach college you always have some respect for the teachers that are giving you more knowledge. During normal school you are young and think all teachers are bastards. Having the cane back wouldn't stop kids acting up or messing about, you talk to your parents or even your own pasts and say that you/they didn't mess around at the back of class. Police should be doing what their job description says and provide law and order and catch criminals, not arresting some kid of for using their phone.
Unless physical violonce was used or similar.
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Kata Dakini
An Eye For An Eye
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Posted - 2009.02.24 13:04:00 -
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This is when schools like the facility I work at step in...
We search all students in the morning, take their stuff, and lock it up for the day. Phones, mp3, candy, cash, whatever.
If they don't give it to us, and cause a big enough of a safety risk, we can use physical means.
At the end of the day, "Disruption to an educational environment" is a common police charge.
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Atomos Darksun
Damage Incorporated.
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Posted - 2009.02.24 21:50:00 -
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Look, I dropped this thread because obviously very few here are willing to pay attention to the context that police officers are stationed at schools here in Wisconsin. Let alone any of the other things I've pointed out. You can say that it was over the top to call in the other officer for a strip search, but that would be backing down and promoting the little brat to do this again.
Don't tell ME what this police officer should have been doing, tell the state legislature.
Originally by: Amoxin
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Jorev Dannel
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2009.02.24 22:30:00 -
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Quote:
You can say that it was over the top to call in the other officer for a strip search, but that would be backing down and promoting the little brat to do this again.
There was no legal basis for the search, as they were looking for a proof of conduct that fails to fit the criteria of a crime. Upholding the law in a responsible and professional manner instead of using it to intimidate unruly schoolchildren is not the same thing as letting someone win.
The teacher, however, certainly let her win by proving her inability to deal with the youngster. The teacher did not need to perform a search to dispense detention, or send the child to the principal, and that's exactly what she should have done.
It could turn out either way but my guess would be that the judge dismisses the case and no one sues. Maybe the girl will be fined, maybe the state will get sued. In any case you can bet your bottom dollar that if police officer stationed in schools for reasons of security end up grilling eleven years old about whether or not they were chewing gum in third period, someone is going to get shot because the officer wasn't doing his real job, and then we'll see some real outrage.
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Taedrin
Gallente
Golden Mechanization Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.02.24 23:20:00 -
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To be perfectly honest, the law has no right to confiscate a cell phone simply because someone was texting in a classroom. However, what I am thinking is that the girl didn't get in trouble because of a cellphone, but rather because she was being "disorderly" - i.e. refusing to leave the classroom when asked, refusing to go to the principal's office, refusing to cooperate with the police officer, so on and so forth.
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Jorev Dannel
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2009.02.24 23:35:00 -
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refusing to leave the classroom when asked
That would certainly qualify as some sort of offense, but it's not in the police report.
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Megan Maynard
Minmatar
Out of Order
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Posted - 2009.02.25 00:38:00 -
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Kids K-12 don't need cell phones anyway.
I didn't get one until i was in college and no longer a responsibility of my parents. My kids aren't getting a cell phone either.
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Delvardious Kaesos
Caldari
Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2009.02.25 01:07:00 -
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Originally by: Kata Dakini
This is when schools like the facility I work at step in...
We search all students in the morning, take their stuff, and lock it up for the day. Phones, mp3, candy, cash, whatever.
If they don't give it to us, and cause a big enough of a safety risk, we can use physical means.
At the end of the day, "Disruption to an educational environment" is a common police charge.
Where do you work at?. **** school?.
Honestly this entire thing is frivolous at best. I would have just suspended her and sent her home, but charging her with an actual criminal offense is a bit much. So she didn't give up her cell phone. She was just arrested and won't go to jail but I mean, arresting and searching her?. Give me a break. If she was supposedly texting in class, the principle or whoever should have just taken the teachers word for it, sent her home with a suspension for not listening to the teacher and been done with it.
If you restrict kids like this you just make them act out more. You tell somebody not to do something and they will do it. Drugs are illegal and look at how many people do it.
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Atomos Darksun
Damage Incorporated.
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Posted - 2009.02.25 01:16:00 -
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Originally by: Delvardious Kaesos
If you restrict kids like this you just make them act out more. You tell somebody not to do something and they will do it. Drugs are illegal and look at how many people do it.
Don't compare bad behavior with drug use.
How many people use drugs just because they're illegal? Honestly?
Originally by: Amoxin
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soldieroffortune 258
Gallente
Horsemen of Apocalypse
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Posted - 2009.02.25 02:47:00 -
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Edited by: soldieroffortune 258 on 25/02/2009 02:48:01
Originally by: Atomos Darksun
Originally by: Delvardious Kaesos
If you restrict kids like this you just make them act out more. You tell somebody not to do something and they will do it. Drugs are illegal and look at how many people do it.
Don't compare bad behavior with drug use.
How many people use drugs just because they're illegal? Honestly?
youd be suprised
also, i agree with the originally quoted post in this, it only seems that kids act up more BECAUSE they are being restricted more
like me for example, when i was 15 and 16 years old, i could go to the movie theater up until curfew time, then when i was 17 they cut it back to where kids (minors) couldnt be in that movie theater after 6pm, IE, not being able to watch a movie that is 2.5 hours long and started at 4
only movie theater within 10 miles of that high school, you began to hear at least once a week for the other students who found out about the new restriction, reason being: the actions of a few teenagers restricted around 5000 other teenagers, and i bet the cops were called to that place a helluva lot more often for, in my opinion, rightfully disgruntled teenagers, not all of us had cars, and who wants to sit on a crowded ass city bus when its 110+ degrees outside for an hour or more to get to the other movie theater
this was a waste of a police officers time in my honest opinion, he could have stopped a speeder who almost killed a mother and her child, or drove by and discouraged that burglar from breaking into that house, but nope, a girl texting in class was obviously more important
this is why i, and many other people think they should just legalize marijuhana, i personally dont approve of it nor smoke it, but how many man hours per DAY would it save if cops werent bound by the law to stop the guys smoking a joint in that neighborhood and burn up an hour or more writing tickets and / or hauling them off to jail
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Originally by: FOl2TY8
I know that some people like to have voluntary periods of abstinence.
Yeah, I use that excuse too.
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