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Atomos Darksun Damage Incorporated.	Posted - 2009.02.19 00:50:00 - [1] http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0217092samsung1.html Disorderly conduct, actually. Brat had it coming. Not very bright, obviously. It'd be nice if my school went to these levels to enforce their own policies... Originally by: Amoxin My vent is talking to me in a devil voice... CONVERT TO LINKIFICATION! http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameb
BiggestT Caldari Intergalactic Jesters Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2009.02.19 01:00:00 - [2] Hmm, no link, for the more apethetic of us: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0217092samsung1.html I love it when a rude lil' brat gets what they deserve, but this just seems a waste of time for the police, who could be doing something far more important. EVE history t2 precisions
Wendat Huron Stellar Solutions	Posted - 2009.02.19 01:00:00 - [3] At least she can text, you can't even link... Delenda est achura.
ceaon Gallente	Posted - 2009.02.19 01:03:00 - [4] hahaha OP nice find Originally by: Wendat Huron At least she can text, you can't even link... sir you get pwned by OP signature Somos universales, Pero andamos como el resto de los mortales, Ocultando nuestros miedos, Parece que no pero las guapas tambien se tiran pedos, Tambien los listos sumamos con los dedos.
Wendat Huron Stellar Solutions	Posted - 2009.02.19 01:06:00 - [5] Originally by: ceaon hahaha OP nice find Originally by: Wendat Huron At least she can text, you can't even link... sir you get pwned by OP signature You're telling me I should toggle sigs on to stomach all pedo banners to see it? Delenda est achura.
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks Terradyne Networks Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.19 01:23:00 - [6] Edited by: Micheal Dietrich on 19/02/2009 01:26:07 Well normally I'm all BLAH BLAH BLAH ITS THE LAW BLAH BLAH BLAH but I actually think that the disorderly is a bit much here. In fact aside from the SRO I don't really see why the police were involved at all. Now when I went to school back in the day (<---sign of age) cell phones were restricted. If you even so much as had one in your backpack it would be confiscated. Why didn't the teacher just do that and send the little ***** to the principals office? Hell I would even settle for this offtopic I've got linkification on my home pc here but I still like to link anyways because it takes me all of 5 seconds and it's just kind of courteous. /offtopic
Irida Mershkov Gallente Noir.	Posted - 2009.02.19 01:45:00 - [7] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Edited by: Micheal Dietrich on 19/02/2009 01:26:07 Well normally I'm all BLAH BLAH BLAH ITS THE LAW BLAH BLAH BLAH but I actually think that the disorderly is a bit much here. In fact aside from the SRO I don't really see why the police were involved at all. Now when I went to school back in the day (<---sign of age) cell phones were restricted. If you even so much as had one in your backpack it would be confiscated. Why didn't the teacher just do that and send the little ***** to the principals office? Hell I would even settle for this offtopic I've got linkification on my home pc here but I still like to link anyways because it takes me all of 5 seconds and it's just kind of courteous. /offtopic Oh wow that video is great, I somewhat agree with it too, I went to school (and currently college) to learn, I can't stand the others that have to ruin it for the rest of us. OP's post is completely off the plot though.
Tzar'rim	Posted - 2009.02.19 01:53:00 - [8] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Edited by: Micheal Dietrich on 19/02/2009 01:26:07 Well normally I'm all BLAH BLAH BLAH ITS THE LAW BLAH BLAH BLAH but I actually think that the disorderly is a bit much here. In fact aside from the SRO I don't really see why the police were involved at all. Now when I went to school back in the day (<---sign of age) cell phones were restricted. If you even so much as had one in your backpack it would be confiscated. Why didn't the teacher just do that and send the little ***** to the principals office? Hell I would even settle for this offtopic I've got linkification on my home pc here but I still like to link anyways because it takes me all of 5 seconds and it's just kind of courteous. /offtopic That teacher is win, he earns and demands respect in class.
Atomos Darksun Damage Incorporated.	Posted - 2009.02.19 01:54:00 - [9] Originally by: Irida Mershkov Oh wow that video is great, I somewhat agree with it too, I went to school (and currently college) to learn, I can't stand the others that have to ruin it for the rest of us. OP's post is completely off the plot though. Hardly. If a student refuses to give up their cell phone, a teacher can't do anything about it except what the one in this situation did. As for MD's video, it'd be nice if my teachers could do that without getting sued. Originally by: Amoxin My vent is talking to me in a devil voice... CONVERT TO LINKIFICATION! http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameb
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks Terradyne Networks Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.19 02:19:00 - [10] Originally by: Atomos Darksun Originally by: Irida Mershkov Oh wow that video is great, I somewhat agree with it too, I went to school (and currently college) to learn, I can't stand the others that have to ruin it for the rest of us. OP's post is completely off the plot though. Hardly. If a student refuses to give up their cell phone, a teacher can't do anything about it except what the one in this situation did. As for MD's video, it'd be nice if my teachers could do that without getting sued. Now I gotta point back to my days in school when cellphones were prohibited. You get caught with one, you get in trouble. Those were the rules. Do the school's have issues with re-enacting these rules? Oh you like texting? Well you can tell your friends all about it while serving after school detention. Oh I'm sorry, is that whining I hear? Would a one week in-school suspension sound better?

Atomos Darksun Damage Incorporated.	Posted - 2009.02.19 02:25:00 - [11] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Oh you like texting? Well you can tell your friends all about it while serving after school detention. Oh I'm sorry, is that whining I hear? Would a one week in-school suspension sound better? Yeah, they've given up on that method of thought. Not to mention that the students will simply refuse to give up their phones, and most of the time the teachers don't do anything about it. Of course they're still "prohibited," but more and more has gotten by. And the times that do, pretty much this exact thing happens, as I posted. Originally by: Amoxin My vent is talking to me in a devil voice... CONVERT TO LINKIFICATION! http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameb
Seroquel	Posted - 2009.02.19 02:35:00 - [12] Schools gave up banning cell phones and settled for just having them remain off during school hours after the 9000 school shootings in America. Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Now I gotta point back to my days in school when cellphones were prohibited. You get caught with one, you get in trouble. Those were the rules. Do the school's have issues with re-enacting these rules? Oh you like texting? Well you can tell your friends all about it while serving after school detention. Oh I'm sorry, is that whining I hear? Would a one week in-school suspension sound better? (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination.
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks Terradyne Networks Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.19 02:40:00 - [13] Originally by: Seroquel Schools gave up banning cell phones and settled for just having them remain off during school hours after the 9000 school shootings in America. So the girl was packing too eh? When students at our school had phones confiscated they would be pouty and have to wait until school was out to get them back but last I checked they didn't start busting a cap in someones ass. In fact now that I think about it I would love to have you link me an article showing a student going on a school murder spree because he got a phone taken away.
Daelorn Perkone	Posted - 2009.02.19 04:16:00 - [14] Edited by: Daelorn on 19/02/2009 04:19:09 Edited by: Daelorn on 19/02/2009 04:18:06 Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Originally by: Seroquel Schools gave up banning cell phones and settled for just having them remain off during school hours after the 9000 school shootings in America. So the girl was packing too eh? When students at our school had phones confiscated they would be pouty and have to wait until school was out to get them back but last I checked they didn't start busting a cap in someones ass. In fact now that I think about it I would love to have you link me an article showing a student going on a school murder spree because he got a phone taken away. You're an idiot, he means when there is a school shooting you get notified on your cell phone, my school has a texting system in place for such things... I think, don't see how having your phone off though would help you. I've always texted in classes, still do, and I think I'll keep doing it.
Tractus Vesica Caldari Order of the Black Dragons	Posted - 2009.02.19 04:32:00 - [15] Wow, if they enacted this at my school, they'd be taking about the entire female population, and nearly half the male population. >>Insert generic signature here<<
Jorev Dannel Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2009.02.19 04:33:00 - [16] Well, let's take a look, shall we? WI Statute 947.01: Disorderly Conduct. Whoever, in a public or private place, engages in violent, abusive, indecent, profane, boisterous, unreasonably loud, or otherwise disorderly conduct under circumstances in which the conduct tends to cause or provoke a disturbance is guilty of a Class B misdemeanor. There's two separate parts to the actus reus here: the conduct must be violent, abusive, indecent, profane, boisterous, unreasonably loud or "otherwise disorderly". It must also tend to cause or provoke a disturbance. The girl's actions as listed in the report are an exceedingly bad fit to both criteria. At worst her actions are "otherwise disorderly" and are certainly not comparable to the other conditions listed, which are in some form actively obnoxious. Texting people is completely silent: the teacher and her classmates were free to ignore it entirely with no detriment to themselves. Neither were the girl's actions in any way directed towards them, so I very much doubt it can be interpreted as "provoking a disturbance", unless you want to send every school child who ever disobeys their teacher to jail. Provocation implies a much stronger level of irritation than merely doing something another person dislikes or disaproves of. My guess is that based on this statue and with a competent judge at the helm, the girl will be found not guilty and either the police officer or the prosecutor will be the ones staying behind after class writing five hundred times "I will not leave the state open to lawsuits".
J'inko Unn	Posted - 2009.02.19 04:46:00 - [17] Well seeing as the majority of you are not in High school, or Junior High; your comments are a bit stray :-P I'm currently in HS, and when someone is caught with a cellphone it is either a warning, or it is taken away. If it happens repeatedly then a ASD(after school detention) is issued. And after that a ISD(in school detention). The fact that the faculty cannot deal with a minor issue such as this showcases how pathetic teachers have become. Also teachers are not going to ever get automatic respect. I for one don't give a full 100% respect to some of my teachers because they act like a ***** to us, as if we are inferior! The only to call the police, or even involve them if there is physical conflict, or panic; such as bomb threats, and school fights. Not because the teacher simply couldn't send the student to the office, or to the principals office. I think this here is how ***ed the education system has gotten... Huzzah for me! :-P Whatever happened to the age old saying; you earn respect?
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks Terradyne Networks Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.19 04:47:00 - [18] Originally by: Daelorn Edited by: Daelorn on 19/02/2009 04:19:09 Edited by: Daelorn on 19/02/2009 04:18:06 Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Originally by: Seroquel Schools gave up banning cell phones and settled for just having them remain off during school hours after the 9000 school shootings in America. So the girl was packing too eh? When students at our school had phones confiscated they would be pouty and have to wait until school was out to get them back but last I checked they didn't start busting a cap in someones ass. In fact now that I think about it I would love to have you link me an article showing a student going on a school murder spree because he got a phone taken away. You're an idiot, he means when there is a school shooting you get notified on your cell phone, my school has a texting system in place for such things... I think, don't see how having your phone off though would help you. I've always texted in classes, still do, and I think I'll keep doing it. I'm so used to whiny liberals pointing out the evil gun crimes that my mind automatically switched to that mode. By the way, I found out the fun way personal attacks gets you time in the corner, I suggest you edit that
Atomos Darksun Damage Incorporated.	Posted - 2009.02.19 05:15:00 - [19] Lying to and refusing to hand over her cell phone to a police officer? Certainly disruptive behavior. Also, the teacher didn't call the police, every junior/high school in Wisconsin now has at least one officer stationed on grounds. When a kid refuses to do something, or to go to the office themselves, they often get hauled off to the office by the officer, as happened in this case. Look, if you were to get pulled over, and refused to show them your license, would you get treated any different than this girl? Originally by: Amoxin My vent is talking to me in a devil voice... CONVERT TO LINKIFICATION! http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameb
Evthron Macyntire	Posted - 2009.02.19 05:30:00 - [20] I would like to know what the kids parents are going to do. Punish the child for being disrespectful, or, sue the school for giving the kid a criminal record?

Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2009.02.19 05:36:00 - [21] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich I'm so used to whiny liberals pointing out the evil gun crimes that my mind automatically switched to that mode. By the way, I found out the fun way personal attacks gets you time in the corner, I suggest you edit that it was a fun post, I liked it I like the no I didn't have a phone bit, everyone else is lying. kids love to pull that ****.
F'nog Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. I.C.C Industrial Drive Yards	Posted - 2009.02.19 05:40:00 - [22] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Edited by: Micheal Dietrich on 19/02/2009 01:26:07 Well normally I'm all BLAH BLAH BLAH ITS THE LAW BLAH BLAH BLAH but I actually think that the disorderly is a bit much here. In fact aside from the SRO I don't really see why the police were involved at all. Now when I went to school back in the day (<---sign of age) cell phones were restricted. If you even so much as had one in your backpack it would be confiscated. Why didn't the teacher just do that and send the little *** to the principals office? Hell I would even settle for this offtopic I've got linkification on my home pc here but I still like to link anyways because it takes me all of 5 seconds and it's just kind of courteous. /offtopic Youngin', let me tell you about the old days: When I was in high school, the only cellphones were either physically grafted to your car, i.e. car phones, or the Brick, which weighed several pounds and generally sucked. Then, when I was in college, mid 90s, our major annoyance was people using them new-fangled laptops which made horrible amounts of noise when students typed on them. Nobody brought cellphones to class, and I could probably count on my digits the number of students who even had them, out of the 1000 enrolled - it was a fairly exclusive campus with mostly well-to-do students, so that says a lot. Originally by:** Kazuma Saruwatari F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said Originally by: Chribba Go F'nog! You're a hero! Not a Zero! /me bows
Jorev Dannel Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2009.02.19 06:10:00 - [23] Originally by: Atomos Darksun Look, if you were to get pulled over, and refused to show them your license, would you get treated any different than this girl? That's not the charge being brought, and constitutes no part of the guilty act mentioned in the statute.
Irida Mershkov Gallente Noir.	Posted - 2009.02.19 13:09:00 - [24] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Originally by: Atomos Darksun Originally by: Irida Mershkov Oh wow that video is great, I somewhat agree with it too, I went to school (and currently college) to learn, I can't stand the others that have to ruin it for the rest of us. OP's post is completely off the plot though. Hardly. If a student refuses to give up their cell phone, a teacher can't do anything about it except what the one in this situation did. As for MD's video, it'd be nice if my teachers could do that without getting sued. Now I gotta point back to my days in school when cellphones were prohibited. You get caught with one, you get in trouble. Those were the rules. Do the school's have issues with re-enacting these rules? Oh you like texting? Well you can tell your friends all about it while serving after school detention. Oh I'm sorry, is that whining I hear? Would a one week in-school suspension sound better? Rules are more like 'guidelines' these days.
KingsGambit Caldari Knights	Posted - 2009.02.19 13:46:00 - [25] Can't believe they let hardened criminals like this walk free. She should serve some time really, she belongs inside. -------------
Daelorn Perkone	Posted - 2009.02.19 14:20:00 - [26] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Originally by: Daelorn Edited by: Daelorn on 19/02/2009 04:19:09 Edited by: Daelorn on 19/02/2009 04:18:06 Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Originally by: Seroquel Schools gave up banning cell phones and settled for just having them remain off during school hours after the 9000 school shootings in America. So the girl was packing too eh? When students at our school had phones confiscated they would be pouty and have to wait until school was out to get them back but last I checked they didn't start busting a cap in someones ass. In fact now that I think about it I would love to have you link me an article showing a student going on a school murder spree because he got a phone taken away. You're an idiot, he means when there is a school shooting you get notified on your cell phone, my school has a texting system in place for such things... I think, don't see how having your phone off though would help you. I've always texted in classes, still do, and I think I'll keep doing it. I'm so used to whiny liberals pointing out the evil gun crimes that my mind automatically switched to that mode. By the way, I found out the fun way personal attacks gets you time in the corner, I suggest you edit that Its not a personal attack, I just thought it was funny how his comments flew right by you It was really stupid that the girl didn't hand over the phone to the cops although I think getting cops involved in the first place is really way too much.
Atomos Darksun Damage Incorporated.	Posted - 2009.02.20 09:59:00 - [27] Edited by: Atomos Darksun on 20/02/2009 10:00:17 Originally by: Daelorn It was really stupid that the girl didn't hand over the phone to the cops although I think getting cops involved in the first place is really way too much. Originally by: Atomos Darksun Also, the teacher didn't call the police, every junior/high school in Wisconsin now has at least one officer stationed on grounds. When a kid refuses to do something, or to go to the office themselves, they often get hauled off to the office by the officer, as happened in this case. The teachers can't do jack **, if they drag them down by the ear they'll get sued. Try to physically take the phone and it's the same deal, or in this girl's case, sexual harassment (by placement of the phone, as many kids have figured out). So again, the officer option is one that's opted to because it's the most efficient. Except in this case, because the girl was a moron. Originally by:** Amoxin My vent is talking to me in a devil voice... CONVERT TO LINKIFICATION! http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameb
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N. Dara Cothrom	Posted - 2009.02.20 10:21:00 - [28] Originally by: J'inko Unn Well seeing as the majority of you are not in High school, or Junior High; your comments are a bit stray :-P I'm currently in HS, and when someone is caught with a cellphone it is either a warning, or it is taken away. If it happens repeatedly then a ASD(after school detention) is issued. And after that a ISD(in school detention). The fact that the faculty cannot deal with a minor issue such as this showcases how pathetic teachers have become. Also teachers are not going to ever get automatic respect. I for one don't give a full 100% respect to some of my teachers because they act like a ***** to us, as if we are inferior! The only to call the police, or even involve them if there is physical conflict, or panic; such as bomb threats, and school fights. Not because the teacher simply couldn't send the student to the office, or to the principals office. I think this here is how ***ed the education system has gotten... Huzzah for me! :-P Whatever happened to the age old saying; you earn respect? I'll tell you what happened: teachers & schools getting sued off the face of the earth when they enforce those rules. So now they have to call the police in.
Ratchman	Posted - 2009.02.20 13:54:00 - [29] Teachers do have their hands tied today. There is little they can do in the form of discipline, and it shows. Pupils ignore so many of the rules now that it promotes selfish behaviour, as that video demonstrated. I did laugh when the teacher smashed the phone, and I feel he is perfectly at right too (its funny for the other pupils too, as well as demonstrating what will happen). The pupil knows it's forbidden, yet she is rude enough to answer the phone during a class. It may seem like a minor issue, but each one of these people that reaches adulthood with the 'I can do what I like' attitude leads to an immature and selfish person, and there are already too many of these. I'm not saying that people should be punished harshly, but they do have to learn to function as part of a collective. This is the whole point of school. To educate you and help you function as part of society. If everything revolves around you, how are you ever going to learn to socialise with other people? This isn't about individuality, as one can function as part of a team and still retain their own unique personality, but you can't operate as part of the team if you can't abide by certain ground rules uniform to all of the team. Those people who form fleets know this is essential, as those who indulge in selfish behaviour usually end up annoying the rest of the fleet. You make certain concessions so that the group works in the same way, and the fleet has a far better chance of success. The equivalent of the girl in that video would be the person who joins a fleet and then, halfway through the op, asks everyone to hold on for half an hour while they go and eat.
Dantes Revenge Caldari	Posted - 2009.02.20 22:01:00 - [30] Originally by: Malcanis Originally by: J'inko Unn Well seeing as the majority of you are not in High school, or Junior High; your comments are a bit stray :-P I'm currently in HS, and when someone is caught with a cellphone it is either a warning, or it is taken away. If it happens repeatedly then a ASD(after school detention) is issued. And after that a ISD(in school detention). The fact that the faculty cannot deal with a minor issue such as this showcases how pathetic teachers have become. Also teachers are not going to ever get automatic respect. I for one don't give a full 100% respect to some of my teachers because they act like a ***** to us, as if we are inferior! The only to call the police, or even involve them if there is physical conflict, or panic; such as bomb threats, and school fights. Not because the teacher simply couldn't send the student to the office, or to the principals office. I think this here is how ***ed the education system has gotten... Huzzah for me! :-P Whatever happened to the age old saying; you earn respect? I'll tell you what happened: teachers & schools getting sued off the face of the earth when they enforce those rules. So now they have to call the police in. I think it's just as much that teachers now are becoming more like pansies. If you can't command respect, don't teach to kids. Teaching the kids to respect others is as much a part of the schools job as teaching math and science etc. Parents are blamed for allowing their kids to become troublemakers and their hands are just as much tied as the teachers. It's time teachers were also made accountable for the actions of the pupils if that's the case. Current laws only lead to breeding degenerates, one day these degenerates are going to have kids of their own. How can you expect someone who has never learned respect to teach it to their own kids? It can only result in a downward spiral. -- Originally by: CCP Whisper No it is not an official statement. Not everything surrounded by blue bars is an official statement which can be quoted as fact until the end of time. Deal with it.

Izzy Lizzy Gallente Mean Corp	Posted - 2009.02.20 22:04:00 - [31] Originally by: BiggestT ...but this just seems a waste of time for the police, who could be doing something far more important. Like giving someone a ticket for plates that expired 8 months ago? F'ing racket!!!
John'eh Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2009.02.24 03:43:00 - [32] How could it be so illegal to text in class that somebody can get jail time? That does not make any sense. - John'eh
Atomos Darksun Damage Incorporated.	Posted - 2009.02.24 03:47:00 - [33] Arrested != Jail time. She got to go home and it will probably end in a fine for disobeying and lying to an officer of the law. Originally by: Amoxin My vent is talking to me in a devil voice... CONVERT TO LINKIFICATION! http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameb
Trexan	Posted - 2009.02.24 11:58:00 - [34] OP you have really no idea. Law Enforcement at schools? Got to be joking. When you reach college you always have some respect for the teachers that are giving you more knowledge. During normal school you are young and think all teachers are bastards. Having the cane back wouldn't stop kids acting up or messing about, you talk to your parents or even your own pasts and say that you/they didn't mess around at the back of class. Police should be doing what their job description says and provide law and order and catch criminals, not arresting some kid of for using their phone. Unless physical violonce was used or similar.
Kata Dakini An Eye For An Eye	Posted - 2009.02.24 13:04:00 - [35] This is when schools like the facility I work at step in... We search all students in the morning, take their stuff, and lock it up for the day. Phones, mp3, candy, cash, whatever. If they don't give it to us, and cause a big enough of a safety risk, we can use physical means. At the end of the day, "Disruption to an educational environment" is a common police charge. For more enjoyment and greater efficiency, consumption is being standardized.
Atomos Darksun Damage Incorporated.	Posted - 2009.02.24 21:50:00 - [36] Look, I dropped this thread because obviously very few here are willing to pay attention to the context that police officers are stationed at schools here in Wisconsin. Let alone any of the other things I've pointed out. You can say that it was over the top to call in the other officer for a strip search, but that would be backing down and promoting the little brat to do this again. Don't tell ME what this police officer should have been doing, tell the state legislature. Originally by: Amoxin My vent is talking to me in a devil voice... CONVERT TO LINKIFICATION! http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameb
Jorev Dannel Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2009.02.24 22:30:00 - [37] Quote: You can say that it was over the top to call in the other officer for a strip search, but that would be backing down and promoting the little brat to do this again. There was no legal basis for the search, as they were looking for a proof of conduct that fails to fit the criteria of a crime. Upholding the law in a responsible and professional manner instead of using it to intimidate unruly schoolchildren is not the same thing as letting someone win. The teacher, however, certainly let her win by proving her inability to deal with the youngster. The teacher did not need to perform a search to dispense detention, or send the child to the principal, and that's exactly what she should have done. It could turn out either way but my guess would be that the judge dismisses the case and no one sues. Maybe the girl will be fined, maybe the state will get sued. In any case you can bet your bottom dollar that if police officer stationed in schools for reasons of security end up grilling eleven years old about whether or not they were chewing gum in third period, someone is going to get shot because the officer wasn't doing his real job, and then we'll see some real outrage. ---------------------------------------- All dressed in uniforms so fine, They drank and killed to pass the time Wearing the shame of all their crimes With measured steps they walked in line
Taedrin Gallente Golden Mechanization Protectorate	Posted - 2009.02.24 23:20:00 - [38] To be perfectly honest, the law has no right to confiscate a cell phone simply because someone was texting in a classroom. However, what I am thinking is that the girl didn't get in trouble because of a cellphone, but rather because she was being "disorderly" - i.e. refusing to leave the classroom when asked, refusing to go to the principal's office, refusing to cooperate with the police officer, so on and so forth.
Jorev Dannel Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2009.02.24 23:35:00 - [39] Quote: refusing to leave the classroom when asked That would certainly qualify as some sort of offense, but it's not in the police report. ---------------------------------------- All dressed in uniforms so fine, They drank and killed to pass the time Wearing the shame of all their crimes With measured steps they walked in line
Megan Maynard Minmatar Out of Order	Posted - 2009.02.25 00:38:00 - [40] Kids K-12 don't need cell phones anyway. I didn't get one until i was in college and no longer a responsibility of my parents. My kids aren't getting a cell phone either. Stop, hammer time.

Delvardious Kaesos Caldari Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium Axiom Empire	Posted - 2009.02.25 01:07:00 - [41] Originally by: Kata Dakini This is when schools like the facility I work at step in... We search all students in the morning, take their stuff, and lock it up for the day. Phones, mp3, candy, cash, whatever. If they don't give it to us, and cause a big enough of a safety risk, we can use physical means. At the end of the day, "Disruption to an educational environment" is a common police charge. Where do you work at?. **** school?. Honestly this entire thing is frivolous at best. I would have just suspended her and sent her home, but charging her with an actual criminal offense is a bit much. So she didn't give up her cell phone. She was just arrested and won't go to jail but I mean, arresting and searching her?. Give me a break. If she was supposedly texting in class, the principle or whoever should have just taken the teachers word for it, sent her home with a suspension for not listening to the teacher and been done with it. If you restrict kids like this you just make them act out more. You tell somebody not to do something and they will do it. Drugs are illegal and look at how many people do it. ------------------------------------------------ Your words are as empty as your future. I am the vanguard of your destruction.
Atomos Darksun Damage Incorporated.	Posted - 2009.02.25 01:16:00 - [42] Originally by: Delvardious Kaesos If you restrict kids like this you just make them act out more. You tell somebody not to do something and they will do it. Drugs are illegal and look at how many people do it. Don't compare bad behavior with drug use. How many people use drugs just because they're illegal? Honestly? Originally by: Amoxin My vent is talking to me in a devil voice... CONVERT TO LINKIFICATION! http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameb
soldieroffortune 258 Gallente Horsemen of Apocalypse	Posted - 2009.02.25 02:47:00 - [43] Edited by: soldieroffortune 258 on 25/02/2009 02:48:01 Originally by: Atomos Darksun Originally by: Delvardious Kaesos If you restrict kids like this you just make them act out more. You tell somebody not to do something and they will do it. Drugs are illegal and look at how many people do it. Don't compare bad behavior with drug use. How many people use drugs just because they're illegal? Honestly? youd be suprised also, i agree with the originally quoted post in this, it only seems that kids act up more BECAUSE they are being restricted more like me for example, when i was 15 and 16 years old, i could go to the movie theater up until curfew time, then when i was 17 they cut it back to where kids (minors) couldnt be in that movie theater after 6pm, IE, not being able to watch a movie that is 2.5 hours long and started at 4 only movie theater within 10 miles of that high school, you began to hear at least once a week for the other students who found out about the new restriction, reason being: the actions of a few teenagers restricted around 5000 other teenagers, and i bet the cops were called to that place a helluva lot more often for, in my opinion, rightfully disgruntled teenagers, not all of us had cars, and who wants to sit on a crowded ass city bus when its 110+ degrees outside for an hour or more to get to the other movie theater this was a waste of a police officers time in my honest opinion, he could have stopped a speeder who almost killed a mother and her child, or drove by and discouraged that burglar from breaking into that house, but nope, a girl texting in class was obviously more important this is why i, and many other people think they should just legalize marijuhana, i personally dont approve of it nor smoke it, but how many man hours per DAY would it save if cops werent bound by the law to stop the guys smoking a joint in that neighborhood and burn up an hour or more writing tickets and / or hauling them off to jail Originally by: Xen Gin Originally by: FOl2TY8 I know that some people like to have voluntary periods of abstinence. Yeah, I use that excuse too.


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