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Cythris0101	Posted - 2009.02.19 16:51:00 - [1] Payed these guys 250 mil for pos kill in low sec undefended POS with only 3 guns (one too many for me) payed isk to Mystic Bull who in the corp description says is one of the contact people "Small mercenary corporation specializing in high sec warfare, Contact Mystic Bull or Soryn Kael for rates." After ISK was trasnfered he closed convo, I think he put me on ignore aswell
Cythris0101	Posted - 2009.02.19 18:49:00 - [2] Originally by: Valandril I will hunt them down for 199m, cheap. Not about to get scammed again, but thanks anyway! Just letting other players know so they odnt make same mistake!
Cythris0101	Posted - 2009.02.19 19:16:00 - [3] Edited by: Cythris0101 on 19/02/2009 19:19:10 Edited by: Cythris0101 on 19/02/2009 19:18:41 Now they try tyo black mail me with noob character! Got eve mail from Calindoth (obviously an alt of theirs b/c they knew the names from contract) "Dude its 250 mil chill the **** out. You tried to hire us to kill your friend Kajre Adari's POS? How about we tell your friend your intentions if you dont shutup on forums?" LOL he knows I hate him, pay attention next time your scamming someone I said we used to be friends and arent anymore nice try tho!
Cythris0101	Posted - 2009.02.19 19:55:00 - [4] Edited by: Cythris0101 on 19/02/2009 20:05:58 two secs
Cythris0101	Posted - 2009.02.19 20:07:00 - [5]
Cythris0101	Posted - 2009.02.19 20:09:00 - [6] and you know very well who Kajre is you asked me all about him when you were pretneding to be mercs they act verylegimtate they ask you where they are ,what ship types , etc... Don't fall for this like I did
Cythris0101	Posted - 2009.02.19 20:10:00 - [7] No I dont even have a POS, If the corp isnt involved with that scam th4en its just Mystic Bull whos doing the scamming if thats the case then I expect to be reimbursed immediatly
Cythris0101	Posted - 2009.02.19 20:36:00 - [8] Originally by: Dawts Why not just do an api audit on the Chaos From Order members involved and see if they received payment? agreed, but as of now i assume that the4 whole corp is a scam so woudlnt prove anything to me
Cythris0101	Posted - 2009.02.19 20:42:00 - [9] Originally by: Anope Something you must know about scammers, your not going to get your money back. Lesson learned, move on. ------------ That wasnt why I made this thread int the first palce... I made it to warn other people I know im not getting aynthign back
Cythris0101	Posted - 2009.02.19 21:08:00 - [10] "Mystic has been a bit ill of late so he may not be able to provide details on this" Oh thats convient "If what you say is true then your lowsec pos shoot would not have had a space in the calendar to happen yet and you would likely have been charged a fee higher than 250m for a rush job to get us to drop other commitments." Why ofcourse... but your forgetting one thing... ITS A SCAM! "Calindoth" is not an alt of ours and none of the Chaos members who would have access to a clients name have a writing style similar to the message that you got from this person." Ah well now I see your logic, the evidence you have to support that claim is undeniable! I rest my case!!
Cythris0101	Posted - 2009.02.19 21:09:00 - [11] Originally by: Naito Yumi Mystic has been a bit ill of late so he may not be able to provide details on this while the topic is still fresh on the forums. Let me provide a chronology for CHFOR for the last while. Jan 24th - Feb 8th : competing in alliance tournament Feb 10th : Start shooting Chimera Raiders corp Feb 13th : First objective of multipart contract complete Feb 16th : Stop shooting Chimera Raiders corp Feb 17th : Second objective of multipart contract (highsec tower reinforced) Feb 18th : lowsec pewpew (day left open incase of tower coming out early) Feb 19th : Second objective of multipart contract completed So, as you can see we have been keeping ourselves busy. If what you say is true then your lowsec pos shoot would not have had a space in the calendar to happen yet and you would likely have been charged a fee higher than 250m for a rush job to get us to drop other commitments. "Calindoth" is not an alt of ours and none of the Chaos members who would have access to a clients name have a writing style similar to the message that you got from this person. saved incase you edit
Cythris0101	Posted - 2009.02.19 21:18:00 - [12] Originally by: Naito Yumi .... so you paid money without getting a time and date? I was talking with someone who was listed on the corp descrpition... so ofc I thought it was real.. he said it startsed immediatly after ISK was trasnsfered
Cythris0101	Posted - 2009.02.19 21:21:00 - [13] Originally by: Naito Yumi ... or any idea of timescale ... what i'm trying to say is how do you know if the op wasn't scheduled until next week? Good question TBH I cant really decide if it was him closing convo and putting me on block immediatly after I payed him, or if it was the eve-mail recieved by his/you guys alt threatening me.
Cythris0101	Posted - 2009.02.19 21:27:00 - [14] Originally by: Naito Yumi Tell you what, evemail me the location of the tower and i'll have a look and see what we can do. LOL I think I am quite done doing buisness with you!!
Cythris0101	Posted - 2009.02.19 21:33:00 - [15] Originally by: Lucivec Originally by: Cythris0101 Originally by: Naito Yumi .... so you paid money without getting a time and date? I was talking with someone who was listed on the corp descrpition... so ofc I thought it was real.. he said it startsed immediatly after ISK was trasnsfered Mystic Bull and Soryn Kael are the only people who determine contract terms. They would not contact you through alts. Also...POS ops are scheduled according our workload and you would have been informed of the date and time. Lowsec POS ops require more planning and logistics, so it would have not happened "immediately. Until you provide screenshots of evemail history and conversation logs, this is rather pointless tbh. I love how since yall are scammers every policy you have is irrelevant, I love even more how you fail to see such an obvious hole in your scam.
Cythris0101	Posted - 2009.02.19 22:50:00 - [16] Originally by: Naito Yumi So, the 1 hour time limit is up and I have had no contact from the op. If the op really did pay for a contract and was not satisfied there are 2 options for us, we can refund the money or we can attempt to complete the job. Since I do not believe the op has paid money for a lowsec pos takedown I offered to complete the job detailed with no financial risk for the op and he has failed to provide us with the information required to do the job. Due to the failure to complete my generous offer i have no other option than to assume that the op was not telling the truth about paying isk to Mystic Bull for a contract and most if not all claims he made in this thread were a fabrication. Chaos from Order dosn't condone scamming, either by our members or other players trying to extort money from us by deception. So long and fly safe -- Naito "we can attempt to complete the job." I seriously doubt yall even do "jobs" at all? This is looking more and more like a joint effort than a member of your corp turned rogue...
Cythris0101	Posted - 2009.02.19 22:51:00 - [17] I havent even seen Mystic Bull log in since I payed him!!
Cythris0101	Posted - 2009.02.19 23:40:00 - [18] Edited by: Cythris0101 on 19/02/2009 23:41:01 Originally by: Zhang Ramses Care to explain how you apparently had a lengthy conversation with Mystic Bull, then transferred 250mil ISK to his account in the same minute your character was born? Did it ever occur to you that I would create an alt to pay a mercenary corporation for a contract?! Come on yall aren't yall a "legitmate" mercenary corp? wouldn't you be familiar with that?
Cythris0101	Posted - 2009.02.20 00:10:00 - [19] Originally by: Zhang Ramses So you created a new character, transferred the ISK to that character, then transferred the ISK to Mystic all in the same minute? Yeah? Who is your main that spoke to Mystic? Any chat logs? You and I both now know that you're lying, but this has become entertainment for C+P, so lets not let them down. :D And I would have gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for you pesky kids! =P Page 3, most noobs only read first page. damage has been done : ) Mercs don't play nice, why should that be any different with how they treat each other? ---------
Cythris0101	Posted - 2009.02.20 00:11:00 - [20] Originally by: Zhang Ramses I think the pool of mercs has gotten so large that some folks are trying to start scam rumors to reduce the amount of competition. I like it...forum pvp. :D /thread here tbh
Cythris0101	Posted - 2009.02.20 00:45:00 - [21] Whats that mean Ghost?

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