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Forceflow Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2009.02.20 02:18:00 - [1] Don't know how many of you guys read massively.com so I thought i'll post a link for those that don't. Massively interviews Dr ~~Eeyore~~ EyjoG Comments, thoughts?
Ricdic Caldari	Posted - 2009.02.20 02:46:00 - [2] Interesting to see how he does interviews with 3rd party sites whilst ignoring the customer base. I don't believe he has ever posted in the MD forums. Guess it shows where his priorities lie. Its not a financial advisor, its a PR manager.
Frenden Dax Dax Acquisitions	Posted - 2009.02.20 03:42:00 - [3] Edited by: Frenden Dax on 20/02/2009 03:42:48 All of the interviews of him I've read have been filled, no, overflowing with sickeningly-sweet PR garbage. Rarely does he say what, if anything, he actually does for CCP. I especially loved this gem: Quote: So we would not be providing banking to the industry in the future, but we can still provide them with tools to be better able to monitor financial transactions. That would be one of my dreams -- to be able to make that part of the game. Then he says in the next breath: Quote: I think that it would be best if the Council of Stellar Management were to request further tools to be able to enhance such banking, because then it would be the community asking. If you think it's such a good idea, and you're employed by CCP to handle their economy, why in the name of Jebus wouldn't you suggest to CCP that a subsequent expansion should feature expanded market tools? It shouldn't be necessary to ask the CSM if it would be a good idea to show some love to the most under-developed aspect of EVE.
SencneS Amarr Rebellion Against big Irreversible Dinks	Posted - 2009.02.20 03:46:00 - [4] What is funny is Dr.E's statement "As an example there is no government in EVE getting in the way of the players making wise business decisions." When on EBANK forums Hexxx started a discussion in which the definition of government was pretty much narrowed down by me. There is a government of EVE and it's CCP. The ultimate definition came down the fact the "Government" of EVE (CCP) effects elements within the game without changes to the mechanics. For example - The removal of Shuttles from NPC. The shuttles still needed BPOs' they still needed to exist and they where not changed, just the fact the NPC no longer sold them. This is a fundamental definition of a government enforcing regulations on players. No matter which way you look at it, CCP removing shuttles or CCP not removing other elements (Probes, Station, station equipment) is CCP dictating "passive" regulations on the players. I don't know what others think but that sounds like a government to me.. Ricdic is somewhat right, I get the impression Dr.E would sometimes rather be totally detached from the players to remain objective and nonpartisan. However the same detachment also breed his own conclusions without understanding. We do it here, people ask why does this happen, what is the reason, and we draw conclusions and theories about the outcome or possible reasoning. Eventually everything "Group Thinks" to the same conclusion.. The only difference is, Dr.E is but one man with one opinion and a lot of historic data both EVE and Real World experience... Yet I wonder if he can answer the same question we all ask.... Why do people who mine their minerals consider them free? I like what Dr.E says every so often, it's fun to listen to or read. However I find myself in the position of just listening or reading what he has to say, just to get the meaty details of the EVEVERS Data Mining data rather then listening to his own conclusions. My usefulness of him can be replaced with a EVE Wide Market dump and some SQL queries. Amarr for Life
Brock Nelson Caldari Flux Technologies Inc	Posted - 2009.02.20 04:47:00 - [5] Edited by: Brock Nelson on 20/02/2009 04:50:29 "Oooh! An opportunity to stroke my ego!" Seriously, when is the doc going to do his job and get out at least one newsletter per quarter?' Edit: I'm kind of left wondering what the guy really does behind the scene... Blueprint Store
tank overide Caldari Tank Sox Studios	Posted - 2009.02.20 05:05:00 - [6] Originally by: Brock Nelson Edited by: Brock Nelson on 20/02/2009 04:50:29 "Oooh! An opportunity to stroke my ego!" Seriously, when is the doc going to do his job and get out at least one newsletter per quarter?' Edit: I'm kind of left wondering what the guy really does behind the scene... Counts his isk? ________________________________________________________
Tasko Pal Heron Corporation	Posted - 2009.02.20 05:09:00 - [7] Originally by: Brock Nelson Edited by: Brock Nelson on 20/02/2009 04:50:29 "Oooh! An opportunity to stroke my ego!" Seriously, when is the doc going to do his job and get out at least one newsletter per quarter?' Edit: I'm kind of left wondering what the guy really does behind the scene... No doubt he's hiding something sinister. Like their baby-grinding machines run on coal or other non-renewable power. The diapers their carnivorous, man-eating apes wear go straight into the local landfill. They use non-native piranha species in their death traps. EM radiation leaking from their intercontinental death ray array might cause cancer in rats. You know, stuff that will shake you to the very core.
Thoraemond Minmatar Far Ranger	Posted - 2009.02.20 05:29:00 - [8] Originally by: Dr EyjoG So players have offered services to move stuff for you at a certain price. Now of course if you give somebody your stuff, what's the guarantee that he will return it? Because there is no game mechanic in place that allows you to securely get it back if you've given it to another player. So the players have come up with a system where you put up collateral for that transport... players that have been able to show that they're trustworthy can put up less collateral than others, or even none. Courier Contracts? I don't think I would have picked a CCP-implemented in-game mechanic as an example of "player-run financial ventures in EVE".
Carniflex Caldari StarHunt Systematic-Chaos	Posted - 2009.02.20 05:54:00 - [9] Originally by: Ricdic Interesting to see how he does interviews with 3rd party sites whilst ignoring the customer base. I don't believe he has ever posted in the MD forums. Guess it shows where his priorities lie. Its not a financial advisor, its a PR manager. I think he has posted in MD once or twice in past. Not entirely sure tho. If I remember correct then those posts have been 'typical' dev posts in the sense that they basically say 'interesting, keep talking'. He has stated on several occasions tho that he does read MD, just is not usually posting as that way he will get more 'quality' posts. Well not exactly in that wording ofc but something on those lines. Or I might be mixing him up with some other dev in my memory.
YouGotRipped Ewigkeit	Posted - 2009.02.20 08:32:00 - [10] Originally by: Ricdic Interesting to see how he does interviews with 3rd party sites whilst ignoring the customer base. I don't believe he has ever posted in the MD forums. Please don't tell Hexxx about this, he'll just decrease his posting frequency (true jewels) and pretend to be more busy than he is. Black Sun Empire
Venkul Mul Gallente	Posted - 2009.02.20 09:56:00 - [11] Originally by: Brock Nelson Seriously, when is the doc going to do his job and get out at least one newsletter per quarter?' Edit: I'm kind of left wondering what the guy really does behind the scene... Recently? My reading is that he did a lot of work tracking the effects of the reactors exploit (the one that was creating T2 components from nothing) on EVE economy. Before that probably he had a lot to do with the balance of the alchemy process. Then he should be following the mining/reprocessing loot/drone alloys situation as source of minerals and his effects on the economy, plus trying to predict the possible effects of of changes in loot or mining efficiency upon the mineral prices. As you can see a lot of conditionals as all that work is done behind the counter, where we see little of what he do. But we will feel the effect of his researces and analysis.
Hexxx Minmatar	Posted - 2009.02.20 10:09:00 - [12] Originally by: YouGotRipped Originally by: Ricdic Interesting to see how he does interviews with 3rd party sites whilst ignoring the customer base. I don't believe he has ever posted in the MD forums. Please don't tell Hexxx about this, he'll just decrease his posting frequency (true jewels) and pretend to be more busy than he is. Coincidently, I'm considering running for CSM just so I can corner him in a room. I'm serious. EBANK - Chairman of the Board \| www.eve-bank.net
Forceflow Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2009.02.20 10:13:00 - [13] Originally by: Hexxx Coincidently, I'm considering running for CSM just so I can corner him in a room. I'm serious. Do it for great justice.
Elite Contract	Posted - 2009.02.20 10:50:00 - [14] You guys are being way too critical of him. I'm sure Dr. Eggnogg is doing a fine job at CCP.
Isk Ho Caldari	Posted - 2009.02.20 10:50:00 - [15] Originally by: Hexxx Originally by: YouGotRipped Originally by: Ricdic Interesting to see how he does interviews with 3rd party sites whilst ignoring the customer base. I don't believe he has ever posted in the MD forums. Please don't tell Hexxx about this, he'll just decrease his posting frequency (true jewels) and pretend to be more busy than he is. Coincidently, I'm considering running for CSM just so I can corner him in a room. I'm serious. +1 vote Your signature is too large - Mitnal Last night a mod ate my sig, last night a mod ate my sig - Mitnal broke my heart :(
Hexxx Minmatar	Posted - 2009.02.20 10:54:00 - [16] Originally by: Elite Contract You guys are being way too critical of him. I'm sure Dr. Eggnogg is doing a fine job at CCP. And I'll agree with you. All we see is the PR portion, we don't see his internal functions and quite honestly....his part in removing NPC shuttle sales was enough to keep me happy for years. I do want to talk to the man though, and that is maddeningly difficult to do. I want to know not just his thoughts on the primary market (as he seems to focus on, and with good reason) but the secondary markets as well. I'm more of a fan than I am a critic. EBANK - Chairman of the Board \| www.eve-bank.net
LaVista Vista	Posted - 2009.02.20 11:33:00 - [17] Originally by: Isk Ho Originally by: Hexxx Originally by: YouGotRipped Originally by: Ricdic Interesting to see how he does interviews with 3rd party sites whilst ignoring the customer base. I don't believe he has ever posted in the MD forums. Please don't tell Hexxx about this, he'll just decrease his posting frequency (true jewels) and pretend to be more busy than he is. Coincidently, I'm considering running for CSM just so I can corner him in a room. I'm serious. +1 vote
Martosh Toma Gallente Fraction Investment	Posted - 2009.02.20 11:38:00 - [18] Edited by: Martosh Toma on 20/02/2009 11:39:04 While I am somewhat of a fan there is a few things i want to say.. He released only 1 economic newsletter after promising to get the the release schedule of the economic newsletter back on track. and another one was scheduled to be released before the exploit was admitted to be discovered. and while getting rid of some annoyances.. CCP promised a industrial focussed update. of all the things they promised they only released the orca. the other things were delayed or canceled and no word has been given about them. [sarcasm] Luckely we will be getting loads of new contend in the next patch. [/sarcasm] will we ever hear about or better yet get any of the promissed improvements to industry? And last but not least.. Hexx please run for CSM although you might end up chairman if you are not carefull
Midas Man Caldari Dzark Asylum	Posted - 2009.02.20 11:41:00 - [19] Originally by: Dr. EyjoG There's no typical day for us, but my job basically has three parts to it. 1) Morning Coffee 2) Dinner 3) Afternoon Chil Out ???
LaVista Vista	Posted - 2009.02.20 11:43:00 - [20] Originally by: Midas Man Originally by: Dr. EyjoG There's no typical day for us, but my job basically has three parts to it. 1) Morning Coffee 2) Dinner 3) Afternoon Chil Out ??? Solveig cooks a lovely lunch. Don't forget that
Delkin Amarr	Posted - 2009.02.20 12:39:00 - [21] Reading the article it just reinforces the opinion that he is one of "those boffins" surround by papers and folders sitting behind a large oak desk in a room with book selves filled, totally off his head on numbers. Sorry to say the utter crap he spouts, "And there is no government coming in and just changing things overnight by putting in restrictions or legislation" I guess the players changed the mineral content of drone alloys, module size, missile damage, man I could go on listing, from some one who couldn't see, X moons x POS x reactor = c trade in product c + b b = ? "They have to form business relationships; they have to form trust relationships with other players in order to create communities that can thrive and survive" And yet you canGÇÖt trust anyone, would you leave your BPO T1/T2 in the corp hanger? Freeform contracts? ccp endorse scamming. The one thing that does bug me and the link at the bottom of the article made it spring to mind, eve has always championed "one server" no sharding your reputation is what defines you, unlike other games which for a fee you can change server and change your name. So why keep the identity of the banned players from the starbase exploit secret. Anyone donGÇÖt like it they can delete the toon and make a new one start over again, to make an issue of your employment/history/name then protect some one's game avatar (not personal details just game stuff) seems to me a contradiction, THE only reason I can see is because they didn't clean up all connected exploiters just the ones who werenGÇÖt on msn buddies list. As stated above the good Dr. EyjoG is just a PR stunt something to stick on the publicity spam
Omber Zombie	Posted - 2009.02.20 12:39:00 - [22] part of his job is also to look after the CSM... I know it's hard to see what he does as he doesn't have a great forum presence, but keep in mind that in the article (and from what we saw in Iceland), he has 4 guys doing all the statistical work for CCP. Those reports take hours to get the data for so as well as looking after the current state of the economy they also look at what effects new game mechanics, balancing etc. may have on the future economy. I'd ? it if he posted here more tho
Leowen Industrial Giants	Posted - 2009.02.20 21:21:00 - [23] He's an academic Professor or something like that isn't he? At the risk of offending some others in here, like they say - "those than can, do... those that can't, teach". To my mind an economics expert in CCP doesn't need to have spent his life puffing a pipe in some random university eyeing up the freshers, he/she needs to have spent a good portion of the last few years playing EVE markets to the full. I put it to you that there are many people in this very forum who'd do a much better job than our good friend Dr. E.
Tamarana	Posted - 2009.02.22 14:40:00 - [24] Originally by: SencneS There is a government of EVE and it's CCP. The ultimate definition came down the fact the "Government" of EVE (CCP) effects elements within the game without changes to the mechanics. For example - The removal of Shuttles from NPC. CCP in the God(s) of EVE, not the government of EVE. The exploit of the POSes create commondities from nothing. The shuttles sold by NPC create tritanium from nothing. In real life government can only create fiat money, no commodities, from nothing. If you think, it is a big difference, not a small one.
Joss Sparq Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2009.02.23 00:25:00 - [25] While your point is perhaps a little thought provoking, the fact remains that CCP behave as the highest governing influence in EVE. (A sort of benevolent dictatorship)
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2009.02.23 04:34:00 - [26] Originally by: Tasko Pal No doubt he's hiding something sinister. Like their baby-grinding machines run on coal or other non-renewable power. The diapers their carnivorous, man-eating apes wear go straight into the local landfill. They use non-native piranha species in their death traps. EM radiation leaking from their intercontinental death ray array might cause cancer in rats. You know, stuff that will shake you to the very core. This was actually very good response (in bold) though you ruined it a bit by labouring the point (in italics) Overall though I found it amusing skunk (o)

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