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Posted - 2012.04.28 21:56:00 -
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xVx dreadnaught wrote:Frooth wrote:xVx dreadnaught wrote:
The same kind of escalation needs to be part of incursions. VG's at 60-70 mill/hour ASS's 120-140 mill/hour and HQ's 240-280 mill/hour makes perfect sense to me.
(HQ's take a long as time to form up for. if you actually took form up time into effect, it's about 1 hour of form up minimum before you activate a gate)
you my friend are fcking brain dead. What a mature comment, would you like to leave some substance with your abuse? If not, move along.
cry about it nerd.
your post provides about the same substance his does |
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Posted - 2012.04.28 21:57:00 -
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Rico Ramos wrote:Since the nerf, I'm on the remove Incursions bandwagon now!  And while your at it nerf WH and hisec too please.  Get rid of security status and make all of eve just like nulsec. With player corp empires that can wage war with NPC empires!  WH isk to ease ratio out of wack. NPC's in WH need to be harder! 
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Posted - 2012.04.29 15:34:00 -
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CCP Affinity wrote:Bettik and I will continue to monitor the copious amounts of crying on the forums
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Gabriel Luminati wrote:
Jita is already on fire, dont make us Incursion Runners do the same to Amarr too....
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Posted - 2012.04.29 19:04:00 -
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xVx dreadnaught wrote:
Have you looked at the map recently?
Even before the "Burn Jita" campaign by goons, the majority of ship kills have happened in hi-sec for the longest time
This is more a result of people being terrible at this terrible game, than it is a result of "incursions are risky." |
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Posted - 2012.05.03 19:56:00 -
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Still going on about this eh? |
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Posted - 2012.05.03 21:18:00 -
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Good god you actually think a form of PvE constitutes risk.
:psyduck: |
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Posted - 2012.05.04 02:21:00 -
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Fronkfurter McSheebleton wrote:XXSketchxx wrote:Good god you actually think a form of PvE constitutes risk.
:psyduck: How many of these have you done, then? I run HQ regularly, and there, it's only so safe because the logis and FCs are ******* awesome. You can't be in an environment where a well tanked battleship lasts less than fifteen seconds with no logi, and claim there's no risk. Is it the same as jumping into a fight with another fleet? No. But it's certainly not risk free.
They're npcs. Artificial intelligence. Its safe because you are a human and you are, presumably, smarter than this AI.
The risk that is considered when talking about risk vs reward is player induced risk. As in, other players that could infringe upon your reward. To say that incursions are inherently risky because of NPCs is just silly and ignorant.
Wormhole are risky, not because the NPCs are more powerful, but because of the unknown aspect of wormholes. A wormhole could open to your system while you are fighting npcs with a gang ready to jump you. That is a player induced risk. Plexes in null sec are risky, not because of the EM citadel torps or the neutralizer towers or anything else the NPCs bring to the table, but because its 0.0. A gang could come by any time. Hostiles could probe you down and destroy you.
Now people will argue that there is no risk in these situations because "0.0 is safe" or because "wormholers have the defenders advantage." However, these "safeties are in place because PLAYERS PUT THEM IN PLACE. The risk has been reduced/addressed by the players. Again, we see that the risk is a player induced and regulated aspect of the game.
The biggest risk you have in high sec is war decs (hah) and suicide gankers (lol) and these "risks" are easily regulated. |
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Posted - 2012.05.04 19:02:00 -
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Posted - 2012.05.04 22:59:00 -
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Fronkfurter McSheebleton wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:And eve is a pvp game..... No, it isn't. It's a sandbox. Nothing more, nothing less. You don't go on a garry's mod server and ***** about people building stuff instead of shooting each other, do you?
No, its a pvp game.
Pvp is not limited to shooting stuff. |
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Posted - 2012.05.04 23:56:00 -
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No one cares about people multiboxing, especially not CCP. |
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