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Tam Elbran	Posted - 2009.02.21 11:52:00 - [61] Originally by: Trathen I'm convinced this a troll now. No one can be that dense. I've come to learn that where Eve is concerned...if I don't drop to my knees and praise every dev decision and older players you get classified as "not getting it" and a troll. So what's it like to be a bunch of brainwashed fanboys?
Lord Fitz Project Amargosa	Posted - 2009.02.21 11:59:00 - [62] Believe it or not, it is quite easy to get a character 'maxed out' for a particular purpose, at which point having them as the second or third character on an account but not training is quite worthwhile. Quite obviously since character advancement is possible while not logged in, CCP felt it necessary to have a restriction other than how many characters you can have logged in with character advancement. UNLIKE most other MMOs however, if you decide you want to do something different in eve, you can do it on the same character. You don't need to re-roll some new character to change your role or allegiance. You don't have to start from scratch, the idea being that unlike other MMO's you're supposed to be able to experience all play styles on the one character, so the extras, are not so necessary. As with anything, it's a business decision, and even though most devs love the game, the business end of CCP loves only for cash any way they can get more, there is no reason whatsoever they would do something that will only cost them revenue, when they're already doing things that cost customers to gain more revenue.
Tam Elbran	Posted - 2009.02.21 12:03:00 - [63] Originally by: Lord Fitz Believe it or not, it is quite easy to get a character 'maxed out' for a particular purpose, at which point having them as the second or third character on an account but not training is quite worthwhile. Quite obviously since character advancement is possible while not logged in, CCP felt it necessary to have a restriction other than how many characters you can have logged in with character advancement. UNLIKE most other MMOs however, if you decide you want to do something different in eve, you can do it on the same character. You don't need to re-roll some new character to change your role or allegiance. You don't have to start from scratch, the idea being that unlike other MMO's you're supposed to be able to experience all play styles on the one character, so the extras, are not so necessary. As with anything, it's a business decision, and even though most devs love the game, the business end of CCP loves only for cash any way they can get more, there is no reason whatsoever they would do something that will only cost them revenue, when they're already doing things that cost customers to gain more revenue. And that is just one reason I've hit the cancel button and am waiting for the clock to run out. (/eagerly awaits the tards to rush in and tell me how I can't handle it)
PantrashMoFo Caldari Bruggen Raiders	Posted - 2009.02.21 12:07:00 - [64] You can advance more than one character at a time by playing more. 1)play more 2)earn isk 3)use isk to buy plex/gtc 4)use plex/gtc for 2nd account 5)skill 2nd character at same time as first So as you can now have 2 different proffessions running at the same time it is as if you have doubled your skill training speed by playing more. Its almost tooooooooooooooo easy...............
Bonny Lee Caldari The Guardian Agency Guardian Federation	Posted - 2009.02.21 12:37:00 - [65] Edited by: Bonny Lee on 21/02/2009 12:37:42 Originally by: Tam Elbran Originally by: Lord Fitz Believe it or not, it is quite easy to get a character 'maxed out' for a particular purpose, at which point having them as the second or third character on an account but not training is quite worthwhile. Quite obviously since character advancement is possible while not logged in, CCP felt it necessary to have a restriction other than how many characters you can have logged in with character advancement. UNLIKE most other MMOs however, if you decide you want to do something different in eve, you can do it on the same character. You don't need to re-roll some new character to change your role or allegiance. You don't have to start from scratch, the idea being that unlike other MMO's you're supposed to be able to experience all play styles on the one character, so the extras, are not so necessary. As with anything, it's a business decision, and even though most devs love the game, the business end of CCP loves only for cash any way they can get more, there is no reason whatsoever they would do something that will only cost them revenue, when they're already doing things that cost customers to gain more revenue. And that is just one reason I've hit the cancel button and am waiting for the clock to run out. (/eagerly awaits the tards to rush in and tell me how I can't handle it) Thank you! The EvE-Filter got nerfed but still works.
Tippia Raddick Explorations BlackWater.	Posted - 2009.02.21 12:43:00 - [66] Originally by: Tam Elbran I've come to learn that where Eve is concerned...if I don't drop to my knees and praise every dev decision and older players you get classified as "not getting it" and a troll. No. The reason you're classified as "not getting it" is because you are factually wrong. The reason you're classified as a troll is because you keep ignoring people who correct you on these facts. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in =v=GÇª you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki
Tam Elbran	Posted - 2009.02.21 12:46:00 - [67] Originally by: Tippia Originally by: Tam Elbran I've come to learn that where Eve is concerned...if I don't drop to my knees and praise every dev decision and older players you get classified as "not getting it" and a troll. No. The reason you're classified as "not getting it" is because you are factually wrong. The reason you're classified as a troll is because you keep ignoring people who correct you on these facts. None of you have proven me wrong on a single point. And the fact that every other MMO allows advancement on multiple characters without the game world imploding proves me right and you all wrong. Hell have of you have to fallback on your..."derrrrr other games don't let you play 2 characters at the same time" nonsense to backup this decision in any way. It's a stupid argument and you all know damned well that it is.
Tippia Raddick Explorations BlackWater.	Posted - 2009.02.21 12:48:00 - [68] Originally by: Tam Elbran None of you have proven me wrong on a single point. Maybe you should re-read the thread… Quote: And the fact that every other MMO allows advancement on multiple characters without the game world imploding proves me right and you all wrong. So does EVE, you know… Quote: Hell have of you have to fallback on your..."derrrrr other games don't let you play 2 characters at the same time" nonsense to backup this decision in any way. It's a stupid argument and you all know damned well that it is. Why is it stupid? GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in =v=GÇª you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki
Kyoto cebolla	Posted - 2009.02.21 13:03:00 - [69] Originally by: Tam Elbran Edited by: Tam Elbran on 21/02/2009 12:47:02 Originally by: Tippia Originally by: Tam Elbran I've come to learn that where Eve is concerned...if I don't drop to my knees and praise every dev decision and older players you get classified as "not getting it" and a troll. No. The reason you're classified as "not getting it" is because you are factually wrong. The reason you're classified as a troll is because you keep ignoring people who correct you on these facts. None of you have proven me wrong on a single point. And the fact that every other MMO allows advancement on multiple characters without the game world imploding proves me right and you all wrong. Hell half of you have to fallback on your..."derrrrr other games don't let you play 2 characters at the same time" nonsense to backup this decision in any way. It's a stupid argument and you all know damned well that it is. It's a minutia point you use to obscure the overall issue. If this is such a crappy game, CCP is such a evil capitalstic evildoer and the playerbase is so utterly stupid as you seem to think...Why don't you just quit and find a game that you like? If i would be as bitter as you i would stop playing and buy a teddybeer
DjLowballer Amarr FLASHTROOPER CORP	Posted - 2009.02.21 13:20:00 - [70] Since you keep comparing EvE to other games I am going to give you a nice clear parallel. World of Warcraft lets you have at least 3 characters per server. In EvE you get 3 characters per server. In World of Warcraft you can level up each of these characters differently In EvE you can level each of the characters differently In World of Warcraft when you stop playing on toon A to level up on B development on A halts In EvE when you switch training from A to B only B continues advancing. It is the same with nearly every other MMO I am afraid and the issue with your perception. If this limit were lifted it would be exactly the same as WoW letting your paladin gain experience while you level up your Deathknight. Two characters advance while you only invest time in one. You could argue in my example that WoW at least gives rested XP to make the time off sting less, but EvE lets you play on your "high level" character while your low level character sorts itself out which I think is a better deal. I understand where you are coming from, but your argument just doesn't make sense. Yes buying a second account lets you train two characters at once, possibly in different fields. However if you look at the above example the only way to develop 2 characters in WoW would be to have 2 accounts running at once. Meaning EvE's policy is no different than other game's except on how you level up. The real problem is that EvE is not the game for you, which you have clearly shown by quitting. Coming to the forums and calling us fanboys however is uncalled for. We take the good with the bad and annoying yet still enjoy this game. Respect that and just go away to greener pastures.
Aodha Khan Minmatar The Paratwa FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2009.02.21 13:49:00 - [71] Edited by: Aodha Khan on 21/02/2009 13:54:00 Originally by: Tam Elbran Eve is exactly like other MMOs in everything but the skilling up speed. All I have to do is log in once a day and change my skill thats training and I can theoretically become a god by stats without having a clue how to play my character. In another MMO you have to actually use your character to gain skill. (yes, there are exceptions...like certain types of quests) This is only valid if you see Eve as a skill training exercise. Trying coming at Eve from a different viewpoint. Your current one is that of someone who is looking at an MMORPG as a 'skill grind' game which is what other MMORPG basically are. Eve has so much more to it. It's a shame you cannot see it. Paratwa Recruitment
Lt Angus Caldari End Game.	Posted - 2009.02.21 13:53:00 - [72] Dont worry ive contacted fox news, this money making scam will be dealt with. Too long have ccp pretended to be our friends while secretly deducting money from our bank accounts. please resize your signature to the maximum allowed file size of 24000 bytes. Navigator Shhhh, Im hunting Badgers
Junko Togawa	Posted - 2009.02.21 14:17:00 - [73] Troll or not, alt or not, doesn't really matter. I just think it's funny how he continues to call people wrong and fanboys and brainwashed when they oppose his stance and ignores people who make points about alternatives to his one-track view of the situation that eliminate the grounds upon which he's built them. I tried twice to bring up such points and was ignored because I wasn't good enough flamebait, is my guess. But if he's leaving, oh well. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out, it was just washed, and we don't want assprints on it. P.S.: Ur stuffs can i haz dem? Plz i rly needz...
De Guantanamo	Posted - 2009.02.21 14:25:00 - [74] I entered this thread for the sole purpose of seeing the responses from the trusted EvE community. Glad to see you guys never disappoint
Trader20	Posted - 2009.02.21 14:39:00 - [75] Just buy another account. Wow you ppl are either super poor or super cheap, $15 is nothing.
Pesky LaRue Minmatar	Posted - 2009.02.21 15:01:00 - [76] Originally by: Tam Elbran Originally by: Tzar'rim He's just trolling. Translation: I can't form a coherent argument. First thing you've said that's accurate. \|+ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ +\|
Alice Togotsuu	Posted - 2009.02.21 16:31:00 - [77] Originally by: Karlemgne As soon as any other major MMO on the market allows you to level up more than one character on the same account at the same time. -Karlemgne you should looks up wow's lame "power of three" then. as well as the new crapper account bound items. both of these basically allow you to level out multiple characters at a time, but mostly due to wow's content sucking and people not wanting to have to grind through it all... again. ps, wow does suck, almost 2 years clean. \o/
Par'Gellen Gallente Tres Hombres Psychiatric Hospital	Posted - 2009.02.21 16:34:00 - [78] You can already train as many characters as you want at the same time. They just have to be on different accounts. --- To err is human. But it shouldn't be the company motto...
Apoctasy The Carebear Stare	Posted - 2009.02.21 16:38:00 - [79] Originally by: Karlemgne As soon as any other major MMO on the market allows you to level up more than one character on the same account at the same time. -Karlemgne /thread
Tam Elbran	Posted - 2009.02.21 16:39:00 - [80] Originally by: Par'Gellen You can already train as many characters as you want at the same time. They just have to be on different accounts. They will be... Of course they'll also be in a different game.
Johli Caldari AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2009.02.21 16:42:00 - [81] As soon as all of EVE is under the control of EXE. Then we'll talk.
Darth Obvious	Posted - 2009.02.21 16:46:00 - [82] Troll rating 9/10 Soon on page 4 after 10 hours, pretty good OP.
Roah Baztohr Minmatar The Hive Mind	Posted - 2009.02.21 17:02:00 - [83] @OP: Instead of whining here and trying to convince people who are obviously not going to be convinced, you could just ask your mommy for the money for a second account ;) Or, play some other MMO, since they're all the same anyway... there's even a lot that are Free to Play out there, I'm sure their communities will suit you better as well ^^
Miniturret Amarr Mining Under the influence of Sugar Pals	Posted - 2009.02.21 17:04:00 - [84] WARNING Math, Logic, and some Sarcasm Follows CCP already has the basics for this concept in game. Gosh gewilkers batman what is this nubsauce saying? Simple as others have stated purchase a second account. YOU NUBSAUCE, i don't wanna pay CCP another 15 bucks a month to play a second toon. How many other games have a secure supported method for purchasing an out of game item such as a time card for in game currency? -=NOTE=- this question should get you thinking about the answer. You play the game and make isk. some of the various top ways to make isk: Mission running - average lvl 4 mission runner can bring in 20mil per hour Datacores - (don't do this myself so guessing at the amount) with 1 character average 150mil per month (use the two extra slots and using the figure of 150mil per month brings in 300mil or half of a time card currently) Trading - Varies depending on location and your ability to predict what will sell for higher than you bought it for. Scamming - Varies depending on your ability and your time put into it. However you decide to make your isk some of it passive (trading, datacores) some active (Scamming, mission running) you can use that isk to purchase a time card for the second account. Thus you have two characters training at the same time for the same rate that you pay per month for a single character to train. It merely requires more work on your part to get to that point. Another point which has been made before unlike other games EvE has no "Class" system. You see something that looks like fun to try you merely train the skills to do it even on your "main" character.
Malthros Zenobia Cadian Special Operations Command	Posted - 2009.02.21 17:29:00 - [85] Originally by: Tam Elbran ahhh yes...but in another MMO I control the speed at which I skill up. If I go out and hunt hardcore for a couple of ours I will gain lots of experience. If I then logoff and craft hardcore for a couple of hours I will then gain lots of experience for that without affecting the experience gained on the hunter. In Eve there is nothing I can do to make my "active" guy "level" faster...if I start a new guy however, the other is effectively penalized. In other MMOs you don't level while you're not playing. Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Kuzya Morozov Gallente Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.02.21 17:51:00 - [86] Get a job and stop asking your mom to pay for EVE.
5pinDizzy	Posted - 2009.02.21 18:34:00 - [87] After reading most of this thread, apart from the groaning I do have to wonder ; Why even try to convince Tam Elbran otherwise that Eve isn't for him? From what I've seen so far I certainly don't want him sticking around, I just ask he closes the door on his way out it muffles the sound of high pitched whining. It's obvious to anyone with half a brain why you can't far... train 3 characters simultaenously on one account but I guess they might change it one day when hell freezes over. I say we talk about something more worthwhile since this is going nowhere, how about what's your favourite sandwich? I personally like lettuce cheddar and tomotoes on french bread with mayo. mmm
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet	Posted - 2009.02.21 18:37:00 - [88] I like anything with garlic. Garlic bread with some garlic butter or cheese is definitely delicious.
Ms Delerium	Posted - 2009.02.21 18:50:00 - [89] im wondering why we can get 3characters. They are useless without skill training on them all.
Captain Plumbo Perkone	Posted - 2009.02.21 18:54:00 - [90] Originally by: 5pinDizzy I personally like lettuce cheddar and tomotoes on french bread with mayo. mmm Add some onion, salami and mustard to that and I'm totally with you.

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