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Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.02.23 14:33:00 -
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Click me
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2009.02.23 14:36:00 -
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PIE!
Secure 3rd party service |
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Van Soll
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Posted - 2009.02.23 14:42:00 -
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Whee party!
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Winterblink
Body Count Inc.
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.02.23 14:44:00 -
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Nice mainstream exposure, though Massively's posts on the matter were much more informative.
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John Holt
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.02.23 14:54:00 -
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In the closing paragraph a member of Goonswarm pretty much described what the Goons are.
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He wrote: "We don't have any advantages, so we can't obey your stupid 'space bushido'. We're going to spy, we're going to use defectors, we're going to lie, cheat, steal and be bastards."
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Rordan D'Kherr
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Posted - 2009.02.23 15:04:00 -
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Dunno why the press always sticks with interviewing the same person. That shows a pretty single-sided story imho (again).
Examples:
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A player called "The Mittani" is the shadowy spymaster who runs dozens of agents for his corporation - GoonSwarm.
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This is not the first time that rogue bankers and credit fraud have made EVE Online seem more like the financial pages than a space cowboy video game.
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But spymaster Mittani scoffed at calls for in-game morals, noting that without dirty tricks, GoonSwarm would have had no chance of toppling a more established corporation like BoB.
I'm not pro Goonswarm or something, but I think there is one entity which forced metagaming more than any other...
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Junko Togawa
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Posted - 2009.02.23 15:05:00 -
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We're going to lie, cheat, steal and be bastards.
And that makes the Goons different from others...how? 
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Seetesh
Caldari
Warped Mining
Strip Mining Club
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Posted - 2009.02.23 15:22:00 -
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How interesting and their commentry/report on eve was alot more accurate than most other news feeds that i have read most call out corps/alliance's clans... So thats a pretty well rounded report well done bbc.
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PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik
Gallente
H A V O C
Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.02.23 15:51:00 -
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Edited by: PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik on 23/02/2009 15:54:31
Edited by: PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik on 23/02/2009 15:53:36
My wife is a PR agent in RL. Im just wondering if CCP has in house PR or runs it through an agencies in various countries? Ive seen both the NYT and BBC do news feeds featuring Molle and Bob heavily and im wondering if thats due to any particular contact details that may be arranged by ccp.
Please understand this isnt tinhattery- I really couldnt give a hoot either way but I can tell you now that the general procedure for articles like this isnt about the reporter actually doing much research at all. In my (well my missus but meh) experience it goes something like this.
1) PR firm/ inhouse PR dept writes up press release on behest of client/ or head dept in case of inhouse.
2) PR agent uses media contacts and mails out a press release that would be very simular to what the article ends up as.
3) Reporter rejects or accepts release if they want/see good angle (in this case the juxtaposition between RL corporate instability and recent bob debarcle) they might chop and change some of it.
4) They might spend maybe an hour or so researching the piece to confirm authenticity etc. Very, Very rarely(even for NYT and BBC) they will do their own further investigation/ journalism. I highly doubt they would chase up Molle and Mitt for actual press statements. Those would be provided by PR agency (ISD reporting or OOG???)
5) Reporter submits piece to Editor.
6) Ed either scraps the piece, mutilates it a bit more or pushes it through
7) Piece is published. Reporter gets the "by line" but actually has written very little of the content. Most is provided by PR agents.
Point being the central crux is the initial involvement of the PR firm. The fact that generally it focuses heavily on the Bob side of things makes me wonder why GS or even NC arent as well connected? In saying that though there was a piece a while ago on the CSM- clearly again a product of the PR machine at CCP.
So my question is- does CCP have an in-house PR dept or do they have multiple PR agencies working separate countries?
If they are looking for one in Australia I could recommend a great PR agent 
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Insa Rexion
Minmatar
M3T4LH34DZ
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Posted - 2009.02.23 16:52:00 -
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Originally by: John Holt
In the closing paragraph a member of Goonswarm pretty much described what the Goons are.
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He wrote: "We don't have any advantages, so we can't obey your stupid 'space bushido'. We're going to spy, we're going to use defectors, we're going to lie, cheat, steal and be bastards."
yeah that topped the article for me .. (not that I am a goon fan, it's juat a great quote)
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Orange Faeces
Minmatar
THE INTERNET.
Goodfellas.
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Posted - 2009.02.23 16:57:00 -
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Edited by: Orange Faeces on 23/02/2009 16:58:27
Originally by: John Holt
In the closing paragraph a member of Goonswarm pretty much described what the Goons are.
Quote:
He wrote: "We don't have any advantages, so we can't obey your stupid 'space bushido'. We're going to spy, we're going to use defectors, we're going to lie, cheat, steal and be bastards."
while the quote is menacing, you are misinformed about goonswarm. a more useful perspective is to see goons as a crass messenger -- afterall all of 0.0 is cleaning b0b out right now, and not out of greed. they're just sick and tired of being pushed around. mainstream media articles don't have time for that though.
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Rordan D'Kherr
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Posted - 2009.02.23 17:00:00 -
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Originally by: PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik
Im just wondering if CCP has in house PR or runs it through an agencies in various countries?
I know that CCP is running a PR agency in Germany. But they have not really that background stuff, they publish the usual press releases, at least that's what reaches me / my company.
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Terail Zoqial
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.02.23 17:08:00 -
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Who are BOB? 
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations
BlackWater.
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Posted - 2009.02.23 17:23:00 -
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Originally by: Terail Zoqial
Who are BOB?
A swedish manufacturer of jam, lemonade, ketchup and other over-sugared fruit-, berry-, and produce-related food items.
GÇöGÇöGÇö
GǣIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in =v=GǪ
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Sir NoPopOllie
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2009.02.23 17:27:00 -
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Edited by: Sir NoPopOllie on 23/02/2009 17:27:21
Originally by: Terail Zoqial
Who are BOB?
We are a small corporation who mainly do missions in Empire.
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cpu939
Gallente
OffBeat Creations
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Posted - 2009.02.23 17:36:00 -
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you know i think this is a great peace by the bbc, in facct if i was not already playing the game it would make me take a look at the game.
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Droog 1
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Posted - 2009.02.23 17:39:00 -
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Originally by: John Holt
In the closing paragraph a member of Goonswarm pretty much described what Eve is.
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He wrote: "We don't have any advantages, so we can't obey your stupid 'space bushido'. We're going to spy, we're going to use defectors, we're going to lie, cheat, steal and be bastards."
fixed
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xStormwingx
Dark Star Cartel
Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2009.02.23 17:39:00 -
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Now all we need is an event huge enough to be on TV, and we're all set. 
The pictures were a little less than eyecatching but it was a nice article.
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Squidly
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Posted - 2009.02.23 17:40:00 -
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Originally by: Orange Faeces
.............you are misinformed about goonswarm.............afterall all of 0.0 is cleaning b0b out right now, and not out of greed. they're just sick and tired of being pushed around...............
So.
You have saved us from BoB.
Who, then, will save us from YOU?
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Orange Faeces
Minmatar
THE INTERNET.
Goodfellas.
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Posted - 2009.02.23 17:56:00 -
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Edited by: Orange Faeces on 23/02/2009 17:57:06
Originally by: Squidly
So.
You have saved us from BoB.
Who, then, will save us from YOU?
If you are referring to THE INTERNET. well, our bark is bigger than our bite. As for the NAPtrain that is currently cleansing the south, they are eager to get this over with so they can go back to shooting each other for fun, instead of trying to take each other's space. Trust me.
oF
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Sleepkevert
Amarr
Rionnag Alba
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Posted - 2009.02.23 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba
PIE!
Damn, with all these useless post you'r only up to rank #31 yet
Also, I suspect CCP having an undercover dev in the BBC tech news department (or a very devoted fan) The amount of coverage they get there is pretty insane when you compare it to other news.
That, or BBC just loves three letter companies.
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Faife
Federation of Freedom Fighters
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Posted - 2009.02.23 18:20:00 -
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i have never gotten as many RL links, questions, and emails from gamer friends asking about EVE than i have cause of the BoB dissolution
had 5 people link me the article "zomg, your spaceships game is in the news, did you hear?!"
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Gogar Teltaf
tr0pa de elite
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.02.23 20:02:00 -
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 why do they keep calling BoB and Goonfleet 'corporations' when they are in fact alliances... sheesh get your facts right BBC! Otherwise pretty cool 
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brakespear
Minmatar
Heaven Up Here
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Posted - 2009.02.23 20:19:00 -
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Originally by: Gogar Teltaf
why do they keep calling BoB and Goonfleet 'corporations' when they are in fact alliances... sheesh get your facts right BBC! Otherwise pretty cool
Well, BoB is a corp now I guess :) ....... and mittens is a shadowy spymaster lol
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Rhys Onasi
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Posted - 2009.02.23 23:35:00 -
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Originally by: Sleepkevert
Originally by: Chribba
PIE!
Damn, with all these useless post you'r only up to rank #31 yet
Also, I suspect CCP having an undercover dev in the BBC tech news department (or a very devoted fan) The amount of coverage they get there is pretty insane when you compare it to other news.
That, or BBC just loves three letter companies.
Well, the servers are in London. That might influence it, too. 
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Bethulsunamen
Amarr
Viziam
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Posted - 2009.02.23 23:42:00 -
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Originally by: Sleepkevert
Originally by: Chribba
PIE!
Damn, with all these useless post you'r only up to rank #31 yet
Also, I suspect CCP having an undercover dev in the BBC tech news department (or a very devoted fan) The amount of coverage they get there is pretty insane when you compare it to other news.
That, or BBC just loves three letter companies.
BBC rocks and knows whats important in the world, thats why.
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VicturusTeSaluto
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2009.02.24 01:53:00 -
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I love the stock quotes from ex-BoB. "They are coming to surrender or die in their internet spaceships!"
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LYGIA
Caldari Deep Space Ventures
Arcane Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.24 21:21:00 -
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WOW Good to read!!!
However, BBC should have written the word 'Alliance' instead of 'Corporation'
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Armoured C
Gallente
Federation of Freedom Fighters
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2009.02.24 21:35:00 -
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this story is old(er) now ... where the stories about the NEW EVE VID
This week EvE Life: Wormhole Wars 01/Feb
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AlAzwar
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Posted - 2009.02.24 21:44:00 -
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Originally by: John Holt
In the closing paragraph a member of Goonswarm pretty much described what the Goons are.
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He wrote: "We don't have any advantages, so we can't obey your stupid 'space bushido'. We're going to spy, we're going to use defectors, we're going to lie, cheat, steal and be bastards."
GOON are a bunch of back stabing *****s?
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