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Commander Kaj
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Posted - 2009.02.23 16:31:00 -
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ok, there is a macro miner named holygrelo in the system of sonama. He is not the only one there, but is the biggest offender due to his mining 22-23 hours a day in a hulk. Multiple players have put in multiple petitions about him over the past months with absolutely no response from ccp other than the canned bs. So, i tried to take matters into my own hands to rid the system of this piece of crap.
Apparently under the new high sec concord reaction setup, there is nothing that a player can do about this any longer. I tried getting a group of cruisers with nothing but dmg mods on, and concord insta jammed us all. I tried using a battleship with 8 large smart bombs and an ungodly amount of armor dps, and concord insta cap drained me as well as blowing up my ship waaaaaaay too fast.
Something must be done about this. They say macros will not be tolerated, but do nothing about it. Then they make it to where we can do nothing about it.
Any ideas?
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Kaya Valda
Caldari
Neo Spartans
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Posted - 2009.02.23 16:33:00 -
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Of course something can be done. You just need more ships with more DPS.
Whether it's worth it however is another thing.
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MooKids
Caldari
Dark Echo Engineering
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Posted - 2009.02.23 16:35:00 -
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Have you tried grouped missiles, maybe even a torp Raven, fully insured with just one shot in each T1 launcher and nothing else, so when you die, you essentially lose nothing?
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Commander Kaj
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Posted - 2009.02.23 16:36:00 -
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judging from my battleship experiment, it would take 8 battleships with 8 large smartbombs, or 30 cruisers. that is absurd.
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Liz Laser
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Posted - 2009.02.23 16:37:00 -
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I've read numerous tales of 6 Dessies taking out a Hulk in high sec.
No clue as to whether it works on a well tanked Hulk, though.
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Commander Kaj
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Posted - 2009.02.23 16:38:00 -
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this is a .8 system, so each ship only gets off 1 volley before being shut down by concord
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Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
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Posted - 2009.02.23 16:40:00 -
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How can you be 100% sure that he's a macro miner?
For a start, his name isn't the normal macro fare like "xeuihd" or "bvksdfjk", really...plus, there is the fact that he might simply be in an EU time zone (where DT ends just after lunch time) and be logged in all the time. I frequently do that, being in the UK, I log in at 12 and often only disconnect when the server kicks me off the next day.
Plus, in case you bring up this card, I'm not surprised he blocks randoms in local trying to convo him. I do too, I have nothing to say to them and they have nothing of importance to say to me.
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Commander Kaj
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Posted - 2009.02.23 16:42:00 -
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trust me, he is 100% macro, and has been reported to ccp by more than 20 dif players.
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Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
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Posted - 2009.02.23 16:44:00 -
[9]
 Originally by: Commander Kaj
trust me, he is 100% macro, and has been reported to ccp by more than 20 dif players.
I'm not going to trust you without any proof, I'm afraid. Just because people have their suspicions and jump on the "Let's petition the suspected macrominer who may or may not be a loner AFK miner", doesn't make it fact 
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Sol'Kanar
Minmatar
SRIUS BISNIS
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Posted - 2009.02.23 16:47:00 -
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Fortunately for me, you can't macro stunningly good looks.
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Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
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Posted - 2009.02.23 16:49:00 -
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Originally by: Sol'Kanar
Fortunately for me, you can't macro stunningly good looks.
That is certainly true, and the good citizens of Aunia thank you for it each and every day 
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Kaya Valda
Caldari
Neo Spartans
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Posted - 2009.02.23 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Pompous
Originally by: Commander Kaj
trust me, he is 100% macro, and has been reported to ccp by more than 20 dif players.
I'm not going to trust you without any proof, I'm afraid. Just because people have their suspicions and jump on the "Let's petition the suspected macrominer who may or may not be a loner AFK miner", doesn't make it fact
For 22-23 hours a day? Yeah I bet he's really at his PC mining all that time.
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Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
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Posted - 2009.02.23 16:53:00 -
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Edited by: Captain Pompous on 23/02/2009 16:53:48
Originally by: Kaya Valda
For 22-23 hours a day? Yeah I bet he's really at his PC mining all that time.
Did you miss the AFK part? I guess so 
e: the simple fact is that it is CCP and CCP alone who has the necessary tools and information to determine whether or not someone is using a macro
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Sol'Kanar
Minmatar
SRIUS BISNIS
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Posted - 2009.02.23 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: Kaya Valda
For 22-23 hours a day? Yeah I bet he's really at his PC mining all that time.
Yeah, but what if he really REALLY loves mining?
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Commander Kaj
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Posted - 2009.02.23 16:54:00 -
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it's nice to see your personality fits your name there pompus. he is a macro, and you are a moron. did you read that multiple players over multiple months have been reporting him for being on 22-23 hours a day every day.
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Commander Kaj
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Posted - 2009.02.23 16:58:00 -
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and yea, he afk mines. Afk to the point where he does not have to touch his computer at all.
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Jimer Lins
Gallente
Noir.
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Posted - 2009.02.23 16:58:00 -
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Is he actually MINING all that time or just logged in? I know a lot of folks just keep their EVE client logged in all the time.
Corp killboard
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Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
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Posted - 2009.02.23 17:01:00 -
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Before I present my retort in kind, allow me to reconcile these two facts first, Mr. Man:
Originally by: Your Tiny Little Mind
it's nice to see your personality fits your name there pompus.
Originally by: My Sig
Yes, my name is Pompous. Yes, this has been designed for maximum deliberate effect. Well done for pointing that out. Well done you.
So that's cleared up!
Next
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did you read that multiple players over multiple months have been reporting him
As I said, people merely reporting him does not make him a macro. You are making an assertion but one, until CCP acts one way or the other, that lacks any substantive evidence. As an addendum, which made me "lol" btw:
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reporting him for being on 22-23 hours a day every day
"HALP ME IM EXCERMASING MY RIGHT TO PLAY THE GAME WHEN ITS NOT DT, AND SOME DISGRUNTLED BURGERFLIPPERS HAV REPORTED ME FOR DOING SO"
PS.
Quote:
and you are a moron
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pompus
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Sol'Kanar
Minmatar
SRIUS BISNIS
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Posted - 2009.02.23 17:03:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Kaj
and yea, he afk mines. Afk to the point where he does not have to touch his computer at all.
CCP doesn't really care, why should we? Really though, you should be more upset that you're not nearly as good looking as me.
My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard,
And they're like
It's better than yours,
Damn right it's better than yours,
I can teach you,
But I have to charge
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Admunian
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Posted - 2009.02.23 17:13:00 -
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Sorry my friend, but without this "macro miner" who you seem to hate with such a passion, the economy would be in ruins ^^
Cheers!
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Amy Mouse
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Posted - 2009.02.23 17:24:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Kaj
it's nice to see your personality fits your name there pompus. he is a macro, and you are a moron. did you read that multiple players over multiple months have been reporting him for being on 22-23 hours a day every day.
we would need video proof of him mining for 22 hours a day for next month in order to verify that he is macro mining.
No video of him for 22 hours for next 30 days (so 22x30 = 660 hours of footage + 6 extra hours for rounding) = NO PROOF!
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Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
Black Legion.
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Posted - 2009.02.23 17:26:00 -
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Originally by: Admunian
Sorry my friend, but without this "macro miner" who you seem to hate with such a passion, the economy would be in ruins ^^
Cheers!
And with too many of them, the economy would be in ruins too. ^^
Cheers!
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Nexus Kinnon
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2009.02.23 17:28:00 -
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*is in C&P*
*whiteknights macro mining*
wat
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Commander Kaj
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Posted - 2009.02.23 17:29:00 -
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Originally by: Admunian
Sorry my friend, but without this "macro miner" who you seem to hate with such a passion, the economy would be in ruins ^^
Cheers!
That sounds like the argument of a macro miner.
As far as you go pompous a**, if you don't believe me then go see for yourself. I have no reason to complain about actual players that are willing to sit at their computer and play the game. even if i don't agree with thier style of play, ehm (pirates). This is a bot. End of story.
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Sol'Kanar
Minmatar
SRIUS BISNIS
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Posted - 2009.02.23 17:50:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Kaj
That sounds like the argument of a macro miner.
As far as you go pompous a**, if you don't believe me then go see for yourself. I have no reason to complain about actual players that are willing to sit at their computer and play the game. even if i don't agree with thier style of play, ehm (pirates). This is a bot. End of story.
You sound like a butt-hurt space nerd. You can calm down some by looking at my avatar's dashing good looks.
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Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
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Posted - 2009.02.23 17:54:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Kaj
Originally by: Admunian
Sorry my friend, but without this "macro miner" who you seem to hate with such a passion, the economy would be in ruins ^^
Cheers!
That sounds like the argument of a macro miner.
As far as you go pompous a**, if you don't believe me then go see for yourself. I have no reason to complain about actual players that are willing to sit at their computer and play the game. even if i don't agree with thier style of play, ehm (pirates). This is a bot. End of story.
You know what buddy, you've deliberated derailed the only serious posts I've made here in ages. I present valid points, and you return with ad hominem attacks. Ridiculous
So I think I'll revert back to grassroots trolling and rephrase your OP:
Quote:
Whiny industrialist cries sweet tears because he's (allegedly) being undercut by a computer program
Also, LOGICAL INCONSISTENCY DETECTED:
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even if i don't agree with thier style of play, ehm (pirates).
Whereas, your asking about how to blow up miners is rather at odds with that, considering that makes you a pirate.
c/d?
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Insa Rexion
Minmatar
M3T4LH34DZ
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Posted - 2009.02.23 19:00:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Kaj
this is a .8 system, so each ship only gets off 1 volley before being shut down by concord
artillery ?
well mannered a**h*** |
Insa Rexion
Minmatar
M3T4LH34DZ
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Posted - 2009.02.23 19:01:00 -
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Originally by: Sol'Kanar
Originally by: Kaya Valda
For 22-23 hours a day? Yeah I bet he's really at his PC mining all that time.
Yeah, but what if he really REALLY loves mining?
then he should still be killed ?
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1Winged Angel
Gato Nero
Impulse-9
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Posted - 2009.02.23 19:15:00 -
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Edited by: 1Winged Angel on 23/02/2009 19:16:33
here's it plain and simple:
if ccp arent too bothered to stop them then why should you be??? stop wasting your time on it and go proper pvping also if he was a proper macro miner then he would be mining ice fields and not normal roid fields?
i tend to afk mine with my alt for pretty much a full day to save up money for pvp so does that make me a macro no so let ccp do the investigation cause they will do a far better job than any of us could hope to do. 
at the end of the day the player is paying his subscription like the rest of us so he should be able to do what he wants in the game, would you like it if someone told you how to play a game that your paying for??? didnt think so.
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JordanParey
Minmatar
Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2009.02.23 19:21:00 -
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You think macro MINERS are bad..
You should see the macro MISSIONERS and SALVAGERS.
No wonder everyone and their brother is using a CNR for mission running...
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Sol'Kanar
Minmatar
SRIUS BISNIS
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Posted - 2009.02.23 19:34:00 -
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Originally by: JordanParey
You think macro MINERS are bad..
You should see the macro MISSIONERS and SALVAGERS.
No wonder everyone and their brother is using a CNR for mission running...
Recipe for success:
 Sneak into macro mission runner mission and steal something.
Target mission holder and hope he has auto-lock back still on
Pray he's asleep at the wheel and laugh when he accidentally engages you
Leave and return in your wtfpwnmobile and enjoy faction loots
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Sea Kitten
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.02.23 19:44:00 -
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I can't stand macro TITANS
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Haldeeman
Minmatar
Infusion.
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Posted - 2009.02.23 22:23:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Pompous
Before I present my retort in kind, allow me to reconcile these two facts first, Mr. Man:
Originally by: Your Tiny Little Mind
it's nice to see your personality fits your name there pompus.
Originally by: My Sig
Yes, my name is Pompous. Yes, this has been designed for maximum deliberate effect. Well done for pointing that out. Well done you.
So that's cleared up!
Next
Quote:
did you read that multiple players over multiple months have been reporting him
As I said, people merely reporting him does not make him a macro. You are making an assertion but one, until CCP acts one way or the other, that lacks any substantive evidence. As an addendum, which made me "lol" btw:
Quote:
reporting him for being on 22-23 hours a day every day
"HALP ME IM EXCERMASING MY RIGHT TO PLAY THE GAME WHEN ITS NOT DT, AND SOME DISGRUNTLED BURGERFLIPPERS HAV REPORTED ME FOR DOING SO"
PS.
Quote:
and you are a moron
Quote:
pompus
i was about to say everything that this guy had said, and mocked you for everything that you had posted.
however, i was beaten to the mark.
so, i will just insert *MOCKERY x3* <INSERT LOLZ> </POINT AT YOU>
srsly.
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Buchatar
Caldari
IronPig
Sev3rance
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Posted - 2009.02.23 23:56:00 -
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Hes Macro Mining. Yes?
Which means he is sitting in one spot, stationary, mining.
What about bumping him away from the belt?
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Ms Delerium
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Posted - 2009.02.24 00:21:00 -
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Not sure, he has been part of a corporation, he has done some missions, and he has writen a Bio...
At least its not an EVIDENT macrominer
But now that I have checked his bio, he is admiting that account is shared by a couple of guys <--- this is against the rules, it explains the 23/7 thingie and they could get banned
try it
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2009.02.24 01:21:00 -
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Originally by: Buchatar
Hes Macro Mining. Yes?
Which means he is sitting in one spot, stationary, mining.
You've just described ALL mining... I mean its pretty hard to go moving and all when your ship does less than 50m/s..
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Precurseur
Gallente
Friendly Insurgency
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Posted - 2009.02.24 02:07:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Kaj
That sounds like the argument of a macro miner.
Originally by: Commander Kaj
This is a bot. End of story.
Holy mother of god batman!
Quick! To the witch-hunt-mobile!
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2009.02.24 02:41:00 -
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Originally by: Precurseur
Originally by: Commander Kaj
That sounds like the argument of a macro miner.
Originally by: Commander Kaj
This is a bot. End of story.
Holy mother of god batman!
Quick! To the witch-hunt-mobile!
Try and drown them! If they float then the are a witch and you have to burn them!
NOT a kublai alt. Honest! |
PETITEBRUM
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Posted - 2009.02.24 03:37:00 -
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Originally by: Buchatar
Hes Macro Mining. Yes?
Which means he is sitting in one spot, stationary, mining.
What about bumping him away from the belt?
Then he is a fail macro miner.
To give some inside info: It is impossible to proof macro miner.
Macro's can be programmed to warp to differnt belts / positions, with different interval times.
Macro's can be programmed to (re)act to NPC or hostiles (launch drones on NPC or dokc as soon as a red jumps in system.
I bet all iceminers are accussed of macro use, since there is no need for them to move at all.
Macro's hate them, love them...... Some crimes goes without punishment.
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General Meridus
Minmatar
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2009.02.24 04:09:00 -
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Anybody who's played the game for any amount of time will probably be able to spot a macro bot. Its not like its all that hard. To those who insist in every such thread, the OP is surely wrong. What is the big problem?
If a player finds sport in going after them, so what. If he now and then makes a mistake and takes out a real player, so what. Are there really some of you who believe they don't exist? If you don't care about them, why fight so hard to disprove they exist in the first place?
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2009.02.24 05:32:00 -
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Why even bother saying that your going after macro miners then? Its pretty difficult to identify a program for a bored sleepy miner anyway.. Why not just have a crusade against miners, be they macro or sleepy, and be done with it..
TBH, killing off macro miners is a double edged sword. On one side its a good thing because it means players can actually make decent money at this profession, but on the other side if all macro miners were blocked tomorrow its going to mean a lot less materials make it on to the open market pushing the price way up.
Still, they are fun to pop because they are dumb.
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ArcDragon
Caldari
EAGLES FIGHTER SQUADRON
End of The Line.
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Posted - 2009.02.24 15:58:00 -
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Let's gank the macro miners. There's a crusade I've never heard before. Do something way more useful with yourself and wardec me. We strive off of peeps like you.
If you want to educate yourself some try this podcast (Special #1) it's a debate on macroing:
http://www.flyreckless.com/blog/
Or just read the original article:
http://www.eve-mag.com/wordpress/archives/the-sky-is-falling
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Eraza
Gallente
Fuzzyness Enterprizes
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Posted - 2009.02.24 16:42:00 -
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i'm betting there are more macro missioners then miners, we just hear much more about the miners because they are far easyer to spot
also, are you sure this isnt just a player that dosnt understand a word in english? i have met a few of those over the years
and on top of that, many of those "macroers" dont actually use macros at all, they pay some kids in china mabey 1$ an hour to manage 12 accounts, each, which is sadly, not breaking any rules(at least none i know of)
however those sweatshops are most likely mining to get money for isk selling, so you would need to tie that together, but of course, you need transaction logs for that, which means we need to trust ccp to do this right
and last but not least, with all this macro mining, trit is up to 4 isk a unit, if they all vanish at the same time, the market will be in for a shock, as supply of low end mats will be dropping quite a bit
hm, in conclusion i would still prefer that, then mabey REAL players can mine in high sec again, and not have to look for a belt that hasnt been compleatly removed, which is in many places quite a challenge
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return the mines!
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Aerik Erwi
Caldari
Erwi-Sora Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.02.24 17:58:00 -
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Just a quick question to help me determine if this one guy was macromining. Is it possible to decline a convo request? I sent one last night to one guy and he declined but kept on filling his Hulk and warping to station to dump. Didn't affect me really if he was, I'm pretty sure I pulled more ore from that belt than he did.
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Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
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Posted - 2009.02.24 18:16:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Aerik Erwi
Just a quick question to help me determine if this one guy was macromining. Is it possible to decline a convo request? I sent one last night to one guy and he declined but kept on filling his Hulk and warping to station to dump. Didn't affect me really if he was, I'm pretty sure I pulled more ore from that belt than he did.
It is indeed, if the target has not added you to the addressbook
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Demitria Fernir
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.02.24 18:22:00 -
[46]
CCP should include rootkits just like blizzard did, stops a lot of stuff and is fine with me
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Karentaki
Gallente
Oberon Incorporated
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.02.24 18:50:00 -
[47]
Edited by: Karentaki on 24/02/2009 18:53:11
Originally by: Captain Pompous
Quote:
reporting him for being on 22-23 hours a day every day
"HALP ME IM EXCERMASING MY RIGHT TO PLAY THE GAME WHEN ITS NOT DT, AND SOME DISGRUNTLED BURGERFLIPPERS HAV REPORTED ME FOR DOING SO"
I can assure you that if someone is playing EvE continuously for 22-23 hours a day, they are going to be dead very soon. An average adult needs 9-10 hours of sleep a night, and it has been scientifically proven that sleep is important for many vital body and brain functions. Sleep deprivation can lead to mental and physical fatigue, loss of concentration, and eventually you will simply collapse unconscious. Now, I ask you, how do you propose this person is consistently playing eve for 22-23 hours a day without suffering any adverse effects, including death?
Also, you asked for evidence, enjoy:
Wikipedia: Sleep
Insomnia Site
EDIT: A more scientific article
However, this relies upon the accusers actually being accurate in their statements, but for now I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.
Quote:
EVE is like a sandbox with landmines. Deal with it.
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Demitria Fernir
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.02.24 19:10:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Karentaki
Edited by: Karentaki on 24/02/2009 18:53:11
Originally by: Captain Pompous
Quote:
reporting him for being on 22-23 hours a day every day
"HALP ME IM EXCERMASING MY RIGHT TO PLAY THE GAME WHEN ITS NOT DT, AND SOME DISGRUNTLED BURGERFLIPPERS HAV REPORTED ME FOR DOING SO"
I can assure you that if someone is playing EvE continuously for 22-23 hours a day, they are going to be dead very soon. An average adult needs 9-10 hours of sleep a night, and it has been scientifically proven that sleep is important for many vital body and brain functions. Sleep deprivation can lead to mental and physical fatigue, loss of concentration, and eventually you will simply collapse unconscious. Now, I ask you, how do you propose this person is consistently playing eve for 22-23 hours a day without suffering any adverse effects, including death?
Also, you asked for evidence, enjoy:
Wikipedia: Sleep
Insomnia Site
EDIT: A more scientific article
However, this relies upon the accusers actually being accurate in their statements, but for now I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.
I suffer from schizophrenia and i sleep 4-5 hours/day. please ban all my accounts.
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Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
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Posted - 2009.02.24 19:13:00 -
[49]
Edited by: Captain Pompous on 24/02/2009 19:15:26
Originally by: Karentaki
I can assure you that if someone is playing EvE continuously for 22-23 hours a day, they are going to be dead very soon.
Yes, I am aware that people who are sat at a computer playing games for 23-odd hours a day are likely to die fairly quickly. Additionally, I can quite happily AFK mine in my Itty V and be far away from the keyboard.
However, simply being logged on does not necessarily mean they are playing. I am oft-logged on whilst fast asleep.
And I did not ask for damn links to Wikipedia and Insomia support pages - I asked the OP for proof, any actual proof that he might have had beyond assumptions, that the person he was referring to was actually a macro.
e: added important addition 
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Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
Black Legion.
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Posted - 2009.02.24 19:28:00 -
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Dude, don't argue with Captain Pompous. He's right even when he's wrong, just check his corp ffs. 
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Traidor Disloyal
Minmatar
Private Nuisance
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Posted - 2009.02.24 19:34:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Commander Kaj
Any ideas?
Leave the guy or guys alone and go do something else.
1. If you can not prove that the person or persons in question are ruining the game for everyone else then go do something else.
2. If you can not wardec the person or persons due to he or they being in an NPC corp then go do something else.
3. If all you are going to do is complain about someone logged in 23 hours a day playing a friggen internet mining game then go do something else.
You see where I am going with this? And if you take offense at anything I just wrote then war dec Sol. I don't care and I am sure he wont either.
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Izo Alabaster
Friendly Neighbourhood Extortion Company
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Posted - 2009.02.24 20:33:00 -
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I agree with the OP. We need to have CONCORD response removed entirely for anyone who's more than 1 month old and still in an NPC corp.
Originally by: CCP Nozh
Are BS useless in solo combat?
The larger ship still has many benefits:
* Can fit smaller weapons to fend off smaller targets
* More slots allow EW counter measures
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CooperJZ
Gallente
Corporate Disaster
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Posted - 2009.02.24 22:35:00 -
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Originally by: Karentaki
Edited by: Karentaki on 24/02/2009 18:53:11
Originally by: Captain Pompous
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reporting him for being on 22-23 hours a day every day
"HALP ME IM EXCERMASING MY RIGHT TO PLAY THE GAME WHEN ITS NOT DT, AND SOME DISGRUNTLED BURGERFLIPPERS HAV REPORTED ME FOR DOING SO"
I can assure you that if someone is playing EvE continuously for 22-23 hours a day, they are going to be dead very soon. An average adult needs 9-10 hours of sleep a night, and it has been scientifically proven that sleep is important for many vital body and brain functions. Sleep deprivation can lead to mental and physical fatigue, loss of concentration, and eventually you will simply collapse unconscious. Now, I ask you, how do you propose this person is consistently playing eve for 22-23 hours a day without suffering any adverse effects, including death?
Also, you asked for evidence, enjoy:
Wikipedia: Sleep
Insomnia Site
EDIT: A more scientific article
However, this relies upon the accusers actually being accurate in their statements, but for now I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.
I havent slept more than 4 hours a night for the last 15 years. Something I got used to in the military and never got away from. Im not dead, tired, or even dead tired.
I dont know of anyone who can lay in a bed for 9-10 hours a day. (Maybe with a hangover)
Anyway if hes sharing an account then he needs banned. If hes macroing he needs banned. And finally, apparently the -10 pirates seem to have no trouble popping hulks in high sec with destroyers. Try that. Its much cheaper.
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False Face
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Posted - 2009.02.24 22:36:00 -
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If CCP really cared about ending macro mining, it would be pretty easy. Do what Pandora does; periodically ask the player a question. Make sure it is a question that can't be auto-replied to. Don't reply in 360 seconds? Boot! Simple. AFK miner? Too bad. AFK anything? Too bad. Sit down, pay attention. for pompous or whoever, it's pretty clear you're one of the macro/afk miner types. Your words are meaningless, arguments weak, and everything you say seems to boil down to irrelevant nonsense. Why does he have to prove it to you? Who cares what you want or think? If a player is so selfish that they can't leave a few roids for others to mine, I say kill them every chance you get. AFK/Macro or real life jerk doesn't matter. There's nothing more annoying than male, teenage idiots (e.g. pompous). Go troll somewhere else macrojerk. Don't bother replying, I could care less what you have to say.
Jak Fury does the same kind of thing in Nakugard, only AFK ratting is his thing. If anyone brings me his frozen corpse, there's 750k ISK in it for you (first corpse only). Another 750k ISK for the 1st frozen corpse of holygrelo. there's 250k for the killmail of either one, provided that Jak's ship is a battlecruiser or better and holygrelo's ship has to be a hulk. Offer expires March 31st. Eve mail me; i won't be reading this thread again.
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Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
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Posted - 2009.02.24 22:57:00 -
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Dealing with False Face's base posturing, in no particular order:
Originally by: False Face
macrojerk.
awesome. you should be a speechwriter
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If a player is so selfish that they can't leave a few roids for others to mine, I say kill them every chance you get
lol what, have you seen the vast number of high sec systems withfull roid belt but no one will touch them because they're off the beaten path? I have, they're...vast
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periodically ask the player a question. Don't reply in 360 seconds? Boot! Simple. AFK miner? Too bad. AFK anything? Too bad. Sit down, pay attention
Nice, how are you going to cater to people who might not happen to speak the predominant language and would therefore might be unable to answer the question in the required period of time, but who are nonetheless legitimately mining?
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Why does he have to prove it to you?
Because I asked him to, you peanutjerk
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There's nothing more annoying than male, teenage idiots (e.g. pompous).
I'm glad that our numerous RL meetings made an impression, as you've described me perfectly. No, really, you have 
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Jak Fury does the same kind of thing in Nakugard, only AFK ratting is his thing. If anyone brings me his frozen corpse, there's 750k ISK in it for you (first corpse only). Another 750k ISK for the 1st frozen corpse of holygrelo. there's 250k for the killmail of either one, provided that Jak's ship is a battlecruiser or better and holygrelo's ship has to be a hulk. Offer expires March 31st. Eve mail me; i won't be reading this thread again.
Look at your ****ty little offer, noob...I don't make pancakes for less than a million!
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i won't be reading this thread again.
*Phew* Then I'm glad you won't find out that I spent last night with your (ingame) mother! That's a load off
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Who cares what you want or think?
You do, you're asking me all of these goddamn questions!
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Yes. I'm an Alt. You're pretty friggin' smart.
They say imitation is the highest form of flattery but im frankly revolted by this line
Yes, my name is Pompous. Yes, this has been designed for maximum deliberate effect. Sweet disclaimer eh |
Alan Calyst
Gallente
Rising Ashes INC
SATRAPY
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Posted - 2009.02.25 01:12:00 -
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What's the bloody point about cracking down on afk miners anyway? If CCP is gonna enforce this rule, so be it, I don't see why people need to make 2 page freakin arguements over it. Pompous, you provide good points, I quickly read it over and I don't remember any of it but oh well. False, stop being an ass, if you use a macro you're not actually getting your money's worth of the game, besides he's paying for a chance to use a macro, so again why try to crack down on it? Either way, CCP gets money regardless.
--Alan Calyst, local drone *****  .
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2009.02.25 01:20:00 -
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Originally by: Izo Alabaster
I agree with the OP. We need to have CONCORD response removed entirely for anyone who's more than 1 month old and still in an NPC corp.
Hey?! Wait?!!! WHAT! NO!!!!!!
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Alan Calyst
Gallente
Rising Ashes INC
SATRAPY
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Posted - 2009.02.25 01:25:00 -
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Hurr, you didn't get the joke xD , I laugh in the face of your sillyness.
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John'eh
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2009.02.25 04:35:00 -
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I find all the comments about killing witches offensive and religiously discriminating and bigoted; Please stop as this is against the TOS for Eve and the forums.
As for the micro miner, we do need a way for vigilante justice. The current system favors isk sellers and people who abuse the system, this ruins the game for most of the paying customers who actually care about it. It needs to be changed.
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Sebucus
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Posted - 2009.02.25 16:15:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Kaj
it's nice to see your personality fits your name there pompus. he is a macro, and you are a moron. did you read that multiple players over multiple months have been reporting him for being on 22-23 hours a day every day.
Your statement here bothers me. This is akin to the days of old where people were burned at the stake for being a witch or defying the church. Just because a lot of people believe something, doesn't mean it's true.(religion.. can billions of people be wrong?(I had a Mormon use that line on me to attempt to convert me))
The scene from the Holy Grail comes to mind.
She's a witch, BURN HER!
But how do you know she's a witch?
She looks like one!
She turned me into a newt!
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Ms Delerium
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Posted - 2009.02.25 16:38:00 -
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Originally by: Demitria Fernir
I suffer from schizophrenia and i sleep 4-5 hours/day. please ban all my accounts.
Then you are mining 19 hours a day (instead of 23)
anyways... get a life? Even if you dont sleep... haven't you a job or something? friends?
stop acting like macrominers are not here. They are everywhere, and sometimes they post on the forums as we are watching
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Sol'Kanar
Minmatar
SRIUS BISNIS
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Posted - 2009.02.25 17:07:00 -
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Nerf honour! Macro falcons! Vote Pompous!
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Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
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Posted - 2009.02.25 18:29:00 -
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Originally by: Sol'Kanar
Nerf honour! Macro falcons! Vote Pompous!
\o/
Yes, my name is Pompous. Yes, this has been designed for maximum deliberate effect. Sweet disclaimer eh |
Kavu
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2009.02.25 18:47:00 -
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Originally by: Sol'Kanar
Macro honour! Vote falcons! Nerf Pompous!
fixed.
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Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
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Posted - 2009.02.25 18:55:00 -
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Originally by: Sol'Kanar
Vote honour! Nerf falcons! Macro Pompous!
Double fixed, cos if i'm downloaded into a computer program i can alert more forum goers to the campaign issues at hand
plus falcons are a bit lame ;(
Yes, my name is Pompous. Yes, this has been designed for maximum deliberate effect. Sweet disclaimer eh |
Chomin H'ak
Integrated Takeovers
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Posted - 2009.02.25 19:33:00 -
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Originally by: Sebucus
Originally by: Commander Kaj
it's nice to see your personality fits your name there pompus. he is a macro, and you are a moron. did you read that multiple players over multiple months have been reporting him for being on 22-23 hours a day every day.
Your statement here bothers me. This is akin to the days of old where people were burned at the stake for being a witch or defying the church. Just because a lot of people believe something, doesn't mean it's true.(religion.. can billions of people be wrong?(I had a Mormon use that line on me to attempt to convert me))
The scene from the Holy Grail comes to mind.
She's a witch, BURN HER!
But how do you know she's a witch?
She looks like one!
She turned me into a newt!
I got better...
BURN THA WITCH!!!
Does he weigh more or less than a duck?
Originally by: Frenden Dax
My heart hopes that people aren't that stupid, but my experiences thus far suggest otherwise.
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Ulric Zorn
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Posted - 2009.02.26 00:20:00 -
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Edited by: Ulric Zorn on 26/02/2009 00:20:26
With all the hate in the world, this one player that hundreds of people have reported for macro mining up to and including 48 hours a day, is the issue that the OP is going to take a stand against.
To quote Dr. Clayton Forrester:
"Does it hurt much?"
Let's ban all assist devices on computers as they may give the handi-capable players a distinct advantage. Let's require that everyone use PS2 ports for their mice so we have a level playing field. Oh and God help you if you have a trackball.
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