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Commander Kaj
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Posted - 2009.02.23 16:31:00 -
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ok, there is a macro miner named holygrelo in the system of sonama. He is not the only one there, but is the biggest offender due to his mining 22-23 hours a day in a hulk. Multiple players have put in multiple petitions about him over the past months with absolutely no response from ccp other than the canned bs. So, i tried to take matters into my own hands to rid the system of this piece of crap.
Apparently under the new high sec concord reaction setup, there is nothing that a player can do about this any longer. I tried getting a group of cruisers with nothing but dmg mods on, and concord insta jammed us all. I tried using a battleship with 8 large smart bombs and an ungodly amount of armor dps, and concord insta cap drained me as well as blowing up my ship waaaaaaay too fast.
Something must be done about this. They say macros will not be tolerated, but do nothing about it. Then they make it to where we can do nothing about it.
Any ideas?
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Kaya Valda
Caldari Neo Spartans
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Posted - 2009.02.23 16:33:00 -
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Of course something can be done. You just need more ships with more DPS.
Whether it's worth it however is another thing. - Read My Blog
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MooKids
Caldari Dark Echo Engineering
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Posted - 2009.02.23 16:35:00 -
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Have you tried grouped missiles, maybe even a torp Raven, fully insured with just one shot in each T1 launcher and nothing else, so when you die, you essentially lose nothing? -------------------------------- CCP can patch away bugs, but they can't patch away stupidity. |

Commander Kaj
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Posted - 2009.02.23 16:36:00 -
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judging from my battleship experiment, it would take 8 battleships with 8 large smartbombs, or 30 cruisers. that is absurd.
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Liz Laser
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Posted - 2009.02.23 16:37:00 -
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I've read numerous tales of 6 Dessies taking out a Hulk in high sec.
No clue as to whether it works on a well tanked Hulk, though.
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Commander Kaj
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Posted - 2009.02.23 16:38:00 -
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this is a .8 system, so each ship only gets off 1 volley before being shut down by concord
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Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
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Posted - 2009.02.23 16:40:00 -
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How can you be 100% sure that he's a macro miner?
For a start, his name isn't the normal macro fare like "xeuihd" or "bvksdfjk", really...plus, there is the fact that he might simply be in an EU time zone (where DT ends just after lunch time) and be logged in all the time. I frequently do that, being in the UK, I log in at 12 and often only disconnect when the server kicks me off the next day.
Plus, in case you bring up this card, I'm not surprised he blocks randoms in local trying to convo him. I do too, I have nothing to say to them and they have nothing of importance to say to me. --------------------------------------------
Yes, my name is Pompous. Yes, this has been designed for maximum deliberate effect. Well done for pointing that out. Well done you. |

Commander Kaj
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Posted - 2009.02.23 16:42:00 -
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trust me, he is 100% macro, and has been reported to ccp by more than 20 dif players.
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Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
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Posted - 2009.02.23 16:44:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Kaj trust me, he is 100% macro, and has been reported to ccp by more than 20 dif players.
I'm not going to trust you without any proof, I'm afraid. Just because people have their suspicions and jump on the "Let's petition the suspected macrominer who may or may not be a loner AFK miner", doesn't make it fact  --------------------------------------------
Yes, my name is Pompous. Yes, this has been designed for maximum deliberate effect. Well done for pointing that out. Well done you. |

Sol'Kanar
Minmatar SRIUS BISNIS
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Posted - 2009.02.23 16:47:00 -
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Fortunately for me, you can't macro stunningly good looks.
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Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
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Posted - 2009.02.23 16:49:00 -
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Originally by: Sol'Kanar Fortunately for me, you can't macro stunningly good looks.
That is certainly true, and the good citizens of Aunia thank you for it each and every day  --------------------------------------------
Yes, my name is Pompous. Yes, this has been designed for maximum deliberate effect. Well done for pointing that out. Well done you. |

Kaya Valda
Caldari Neo Spartans
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Posted - 2009.02.23 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Pompous
Originally by: Commander Kaj trust me, he is 100% macro, and has been reported to ccp by more than 20 dif players.
I'm not going to trust you without any proof, I'm afraid. Just because people have their suspicions and jump on the "Let's petition the suspected macrominer who may or may not be a loner AFK miner", doesn't make it fact 
For 22-23 hours a day? Yeah I bet he's really at his PC mining all that time. - Read My Blog
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Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
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Posted - 2009.02.23 16:53:00 -
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Edited by: Captain Pompous on 23/02/2009 16:53:48
Originally by: Kaya Valda
For 22-23 hours a day? Yeah I bet he's really at his PC mining all that time.
Did you miss the AFK part? I guess so 
e: the simple fact is that it is CCP and CCP alone who has the necessary tools and information to determine whether or not someone is using a macro --------------------------------------------
Yes, my name is Pompous. Yes, this has been designed for maximum deliberate effect. Well done for pointing that out. Well done you. |

Sol'Kanar
Minmatar SRIUS BISNIS
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Posted - 2009.02.23 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: Kaya Valda For 22-23 hours a day? Yeah I bet he's really at his PC mining all that time.
Yeah, but what if he really REALLY loves mining?
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Commander Kaj
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Posted - 2009.02.23 16:54:00 -
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it's nice to see your personality fits your name there pompus. he is a macro, and you are a moron. did you read that multiple players over multiple months have been reporting him for being on 22-23 hours a day every day.
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Commander Kaj
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Posted - 2009.02.23 16:58:00 -
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and yea, he afk mines. Afk to the point where he does not have to touch his computer at all.
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Jimer Lins
Gallente Noir.
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Posted - 2009.02.23 16:58:00 -
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Is he actually MINING all that time or just logged in? I know a lot of folks just keep their EVE client logged in all the time.
Corp killboard
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Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
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Posted - 2009.02.23 17:01:00 -
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Before I present my retort in kind, allow me to reconcile these two facts first, Mr. Man:
Originally by: Your Tiny Little Mind it's nice to see your personality fits your name there pompus.
Originally by: My Sig Yes, my name is Pompous. Yes, this has been designed for maximum deliberate effect. Well done for pointing that out. Well done you.
So that's cleared up!
Next
Quote: did you read that multiple players over multiple months have been reporting him
As I said, people merely reporting him does not make him a macro. You are making an assertion but one, until CCP acts one way or the other, that lacks any substantive evidence. As an addendum, which made me "lol" btw:
Quote: reporting him for being on 22-23 hours a day every day
"HALP ME IM EXCERMASING MY RIGHT TO PLAY THE GAME WHEN ITS NOT DT, AND SOME DISGRUNTLED BURGERFLIPPERS HAV REPORTED ME FOR DOING SO"
PS.
Quote: and you are a moron
Quote: pompus

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Yes, my name is Pompous. Yes, this has been designed for maximum deliberate effect. Well done for pointing that out. Well done you. |

Sol'Kanar
Minmatar SRIUS BISNIS
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Posted - 2009.02.23 17:03:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Kaj and yea, he afk mines. Afk to the point where he does not have to touch his computer at all.
CCP doesn't really care, why should we? Really though, you should be more upset that you're not nearly as good looking as me.
My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard, And they're like It's better than yours, Damn right it's better than yours, I can teach you, But I have to charge
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Admunian
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Posted - 2009.02.23 17:13:00 -
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Sorry my friend, but without this "macro miner" who you seem to hate with such a passion, the economy would be in ruins ^^
Cheers!
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Amy Mouse
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Posted - 2009.02.23 17:24:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Kaj it's nice to see your personality fits your name there pompus. he is a macro, and you are a moron. did you read that multiple players over multiple months have been reporting him for being on 22-23 hours a day every day.
we would need video proof of him mining for 22 hours a day for next month in order to verify that he is macro mining.
No video of him for 22 hours for next 30 days (so 22x30 = 660 hours of footage + 6 extra hours for rounding) = NO PROOF!
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Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE Black Legion.
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Posted - 2009.02.23 17:26:00 -
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Originally by: Admunian Sorry my friend, but without this "macro miner" who you seem to hate with such a passion, the economy would be in ruins ^^
Cheers!
And with too many of them, the economy would be in ruins too. ^^
Cheers!
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Nexus Kinnon
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2009.02.23 17:28:00 -
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*is in C&P* *whiteknights macro mining*
wat
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Commander Kaj
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Posted - 2009.02.23 17:29:00 -
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Originally by: Admunian Sorry my friend, but without this "macro miner" who you seem to hate with such a passion, the economy would be in ruins ^^
Cheers!
That sounds like the argument of a macro miner.
As far as you go pompous a**, if you don't believe me then go see for yourself. I have no reason to complain about actual players that are willing to sit at their computer and play the game. even if i don't agree with thier style of play, ehm (pirates). This is a bot. End of story.
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Sol'Kanar
Minmatar SRIUS BISNIS
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Posted - 2009.02.23 17:50:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Kaj That sounds like the argument of a macro miner.
As far as you go pompous a**, if you don't believe me then go see for yourself. I have no reason to complain about actual players that are willing to sit at their computer and play the game. even if i don't agree with thier style of play, ehm (pirates). This is a bot. End of story.
You sound like a butt-hurt space nerd. You can calm down some by looking at my avatar's dashing good looks.
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Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
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Posted - 2009.02.23 17:54:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Kaj
Originally by: Admunian Sorry my friend, but without this "macro miner" who you seem to hate with such a passion, the economy would be in ruins ^^
Cheers!
That sounds like the argument of a macro miner.
As far as you go pompous a**, if you don't believe me then go see for yourself. I have no reason to complain about actual players that are willing to sit at their computer and play the game. even if i don't agree with thier style of play, ehm (pirates). This is a bot. End of story.
You know what buddy, you've deliberated derailed the only serious posts I've made here in ages. I present valid points, and you return with ad hominem attacks. Ridiculous
So I think I'll revert back to grassroots trolling and rephrase your OP:
Quote: Whiny industrialist cries sweet tears because he's (allegedly) being undercut by a computer program
Also, LOGICAL INCONSISTENCY DETECTED:
Quote: even if i don't agree with thier style of play, ehm (pirates).
Whereas, your asking about how to blow up miners is rather at odds with that, considering that makes you a pirate.
c/d? --------------------------------------------
Yes, my name is Pompous. Yes, this has been designed for maximum deliberate effect. Well done for pointing that out. Well done you. |

Insa Rexion
Minmatar M3T4LH34DZ
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Posted - 2009.02.23 19:00:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Kaj this is a .8 system, so each ship only gets off 1 volley before being shut down by concord
artillery ?
well mannered a**h*** |

Insa Rexion
Minmatar M3T4LH34DZ
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Posted - 2009.02.23 19:01:00 -
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Originally by: Sol'Kanar
Originally by: Kaya Valda For 22-23 hours a day? Yeah I bet he's really at his PC mining all that time.
Yeah, but what if he really REALLY loves mining?
then he should still be killed ?
well mannered a**h*** |

1Winged Angel
Gato Nero Impulse-9
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Posted - 2009.02.23 19:15:00 -
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Edited by: 1Winged Angel on 23/02/2009 19:16:33 here's it plain and simple:
if ccp arent too bothered to stop them then why should you be??? stop wasting your time on it and go proper pvping also if he was a proper macro miner then he would be mining ice fields and not normal roid fields?
i tend to afk mine with my alt for pretty much a full day to save up money for pvp so does that make me a macro no so let ccp do the investigation cause they will do a far better job than any of us could hope to do. 
at the end of the day the player is paying his subscription like the rest of us so he should be able to do what he wants in the game, would you like it if someone told you how to play a game that your paying for??? didnt think so.
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JordanParey
Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2009.02.23 19:21:00 -
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You think macro MINERS are bad..
You should see the macro MISSIONERS and SALVAGERS.
No wonder everyone and their brother is using a CNR for mission running...
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