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isdisco3
Reaper Industries Eternal Rapture
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Posted - 2009.02.23 22:37:00 -
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As per the discovery detailed here, and the quotes therein including:
Originally by: CCP t0rfifrans You have stumbled across a feature that was planned for Apocrypha but was ultimately cut due to time and technical constraints. These in fact were "virtual" combat arenas where you could engage in one-on-one consensual ranked PVP combat. The code had to be shelved as the server code doesn't allow for anything virtual within EVE. For instance, every ship that gets destroyed, is destroyed in "reality". Of course it's a little more complex than that, but that's what it boils down to.
So like a patient rejecting a liver, the EVE software architecture rejected the feature and changing the software architecture to make it work was well beyond the scope of Apocrypha. Thus it was cut. May well find its way into the game some day later, but will need a lot of work if we feel it is something we want to do.
Please vote here with your support to permanently remove this from the ideas board of EVE. May it never be implemented.
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Santiago Fahahrri
Galactic Geographic
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Posted - 2009.02.23 22:57:00 -
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I support this never being implimented. There should be no combat without risk. ~ Santiago Fahahrri Galactic Geographic |
Treelox
Seppuku Warriors
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Posted - 2009.02.23 23:09:00 -
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no fake pvp allowed, IMO --
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Larg Kellein
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2009.02.23 23:21:00 -
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Supported. The Eve server was right to reject this horrible idea.
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Disteeler
Segunda Fundacion Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2009.02.23 23:23:00 -
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Nevah!
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Ephemeron
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.02.23 23:29:00 -
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There are definitely more important (to us, players) things CCP could do with that time.
First nerf local and redesign POS sov. And tweak certain modules and ships to make the game seem less bland and more edgy.
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Wu Jiaqiu
Tian-di Regime
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Posted - 2009.02.24 00:04:00 -
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Supported.
Please dont turn EVE into WoW.
Stop helping the carebears
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Tzar'rim
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Posted - 2009.02.24 01:11:00 -
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This should never make it into EVE.
Self-proclaimed idiot
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Ignition SemperFi
The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.02.24 01:15:00 -
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i hope it forever stays dead and out of this game.
This would be the final straw in a subscription im still borderline on keeping. ---- People Say Im paranoid because I have a gun, I say I dont have to be paranoid because I have a gun.
Quote:
They already did introduce a counter to missiles, it's called Quantum Rise
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Camilo Cienfuegos
Earned In Blood
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Posted - 2009.02.24 01:22:00 -
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No PvP without risking your pod!
By all means implement single player simulators, but don't destroy world PvP. Look at every game that introduced "instanced" PvP and see what happened to world PvP when they did! -
Originally by: The Cuckoo Good luck in defending idiotic and greedy noobs, as far as I'm concerned, you are their champion.
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Herschel Yamamoto
Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2009.02.24 05:28:00 -
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Edited by: Herschel Yamamoto on 24/02/2009 05:28:05 Given how well implemented this idea already is on Singularity, I see no imaginable reason to port it to TQ. I have no objection to better tools for consensual highsec PvP than mutual can theft, but anything even approaching combat without risk on the real server should be avoided like the plague.
Also, given the thousand other things that could be done with that dev time, even if I liked the idea, I'd still tell them not to do it. If you really have to rewrite some major chunk of the game to implement a feature, overhaul how the database deals with blueprints, so we can get differential blueprints for the same item as well as different-coloured BPCs. Similar task(I'd imagine, judging by what little evidence I have), much more useful outcome. Even if that one would be much harder, there are others that wouldn't be. Surely something has to take priority over introducing PvP into Eve.
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.02.24 09:12:00 -
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This is exactly the same as what you can do now, by logging onto sisi. I don't see the real problem.
And what would it change? Do you think suddenly pirates would use this? No they wont. 0.0 alliances won't use it, since you cant take space with a simulator. Suicide gankers won't use it. So who exactly will use this simulator instead of starting the pvp? The random carebear still gets dragged into normal pvp by pirates. ---------------------------------------------
Originally by: Neth'Rae Military experts are calling this a troll.
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Myrhial Arkenath
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2009.02.24 09:23:00 -
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I'm all for giving people to ability to duel for practice, but the ranked bit is what did it for me.
CEO | Diary of a pod pilot |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2009.02.24 10:03:00 -
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I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N. Dara Cothrom
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Posted - 2009.02.24 11:48:00 -
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Originally by: Treelox no fake pvp allowed, IMO
This
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Dizeezer Velar
League of Disgruntled Fast Food Employees
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Posted - 2009.02.24 15:22:00 -
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Horrible idea.
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Li Fengxian
Reservoir Saints
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Posted - 2009.02.24 19:51:00 -
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Edited by: Li Fengxian on 24/02/2009 19:52:19 I agree. No CCP-enforced battleground. The risk when undocking from a station should always remain throughout the EVE universe.
However, I would always support a corporation or an alliance arranging a fighting arena for betting or entertainment purposes in the game, but it should still involve risking your assets.
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Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2009.02.24 20:46:00 -
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Say no to consequence-free PvP! ...
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LaVista Vista
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Posted - 2009.02.24 21:01:00 -
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Guys, this is a non-issue. This situation has already been handled long ago.
So take it easy. Let this thread die. Trust me, I'm COMPLETELY against anything like this.
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Ankhesentapemkah
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Posted - 2009.02.24 23:48:00 -
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Originally by: isdisco3 Please vote here with your support to permanently remove this from the ideas board of EVE. May it never be implemented.
The CSM was informed of this feature while in Iceland, and have already expressed their opinions on this feature. Let's just say we weren't that positive about it either, and it wasn't just LaVista that was against it. ---
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Axel Vindislaga
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Posted - 2009.02.25 04:23:00 -
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Fake PVP... Dont you guys get that its all fake... there is no new level of fakeness. There is already the test server.. .This would be an awesome oportunity to merge them and make it fun and cool at the same time. I play Supreme Commander and its ranked ladder is really competative and fun to use. I really like the idea of players competing for fame in the virtual reality of eves virtual reality.
The stupidity behind the mentality of the political animal never ceases to amaze me. This is why I ignore politics and politicians because they are just the zoobs that step forward because they are too stupid to know that the real power is in someone elses hands.
*Wanders off grumbling about zoobs and imagining the total coolness of eve players being able to enter into a virtual universe of space combat.. and adventure and excitement... *... so much like .... yet they cant see it... grumble... mumble.. *
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Torain
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Posted - 2009.02.25 05:20:00 -
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Really? There's no implementation of Arenas that will work for anyone?
Might I remind everyone that we don't mind when they do the Alliance Tournament. Done right, how is this any different?
EVE Online Fanfest 2008 - CCP Panel - Arena discussion starting at 24:30 minutes.
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Herschel Yamamoto
Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2009.02.25 17:57:00 -
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Originally by: Torain Really? There's no implementation of Arenas that will work for anyone?
Might I remind everyone that we don't mind when they do the Alliance Tournament. Done right, how is this any different?
EVE Online Fanfest 2008 - CCP Panel - Arena discussion starting at 24:30 minutes.
Ships die in the Alliance Tournament.
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Camilo Cienfuegos
Earned In Blood
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Posted - 2009.02.25 18:43:00 -
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Edited by: Camilo Cienfuegos on 25/02/2009 18:44:02
Quote: Ships die in the Alliance Tournament.
Pod killing is also possible, though it does have penalties.
Quote: I really like the idea of players competing for fame in the virtual reality of eves virtual reality.
If a real distinction could be made between the dueler and the soldier, this is an idea I could accept. The reality is that the only distinction would be that the dueler doesn't fit a warp scrambler... -
Originally by: The Cuckoo Good luck in defending idiotic and greedy noobs, as far as I'm concerned, you are their champion.
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N'irrti
Viziam
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Posted - 2009.02.25 23:25:00 -
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arena PVP sucks
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Efrim Black
Gallente Apellon
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Posted - 2009.02.26 01:32:00 -
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Originally by: isdisco3 As per the discovery detailed here, and the quotes therein including:
Originally by: CCP t0rfifrans You have stumbled across a feature that was planned for Apocrypha but was ultimately cut due to time and technical constraints. These in fact were "virtual" combat arenas where you could engage in one-on-one consensual ranked PVP combat. The code had to be shelved as the server code doesn't allow for anything virtual within EVE. For instance, every ship that gets destroyed, is destroyed in "reality". Of course it's a little more complex than that, but that's what it boils down to.
So like a patient rejecting a liver, the EVE software architecture rejected the feature and changing the software architecture to make it work was well beyond the scope of Apocrypha. Thus it was cut. May well find its way into the game some day later, but will need a lot of work if we feel it is something we want to do.
Please vote here with your support to permanently remove this from the ideas board of EVE. May it never be implemented.
Err.... No.
I may not disagree with this shadow of an idea, that wasn't implemented. Yet, I would never vote for an idea to be removed forever from the boards. This isn't Soviet Russia.
Anyway, if they try to implement it as a feature, or if they announce it, I will vote against it. To my knowledge it's not even on the table at the moment.
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Imertu Solientai
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Posted - 2009.02.26 23:27:00 -
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Signed. If you want consensual PvP drop a can and fight. If you want risk-free PvP go to the test server.
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DEATHsyphon
8lack Wing Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.27 06:39:00 -
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I support that whoever thought of this idea was fired and that it should never see the light of day or even thought about again this isn't f-ing WoW -------------------- I'm not not going to pod you! |
Esmenet
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Posted - 2009.02.27 07:15:00 -
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Originally by: Treelox no fake pvp allowed, IMO
This.
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Trebor Notlimah
Lone Star EVE Group Veni Vidi Vici
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Posted - 2009.02.27 19:11:00 -
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Keep it on SiSi.
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