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Minny Sky	Posted - 2009.02.24 03:15:00 - [1] (This space reserved for all of the solo/empire/bearish players who are going to cry here when the expansion comes out and they cant kill any sleeper spawns at all) "CCP, are you kidding me? How am I supposed to bear this?" "Sleepers are too hard. Please 'balance'" "Myself and my other two 'friends' engaged a sleeper spawn with our tricked out CNRs and we all died. WTF? We are quitting game" etc etc etc
rValdez5987 Amarr PROGENITOR CORPORATION	Posted - 2009.02.24 03:17:00 - [2] actually as a pvper, i think the sleepers are great. If your fleet cant find anyone to pvp, you just scan down a wormhole and go fight sleepers instead. atleast then you will get decent rewards and loot But seriously haven't you even noticed my post already ended and your reading my sig?
KING TERROR	Posted - 2009.02.24 03:17:00 - [3] Can i have your stuff??
Yakia TovilToba Halliburton Inc.	Posted - 2009.02.24 03:23:00 - [4] Afaik there will be weaker sleepers if the wormhole is entered from highsec. Since the fakshun CNRs will come from there they probably won't have any problems ... if yes the sleepers will be dumbed down. Like back then with difficult missions. Noobs failed at the new harder missions, whined for few weeks on forums and the missions were made easier. Same might happen to sleepers.
eFart	Posted - 2009.02.24 03:28:00 - [5] Originally by: Yakia TovilToba Afaik there will be weaker sleepers if the wormhole is entered from highsec. Since the fakshun CNRs will come from there they probably won't have any problems ... if yes the sleepers will be dumbed down. Like back then with difficult missions. Noobs failed at the new harder missions, whined for few weeks on forums and the missions were made easier. Same might happen to sleepers. u r a great thinker u yarr
Kahega Amielden Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2009.02.24 04:35:00 - [6] Originally by: Yakia TovilToba Afaik there will be weaker sleepers if the wormhole is entered from highsec. Since the fakshun CNRs will come from there they probably won't have any problems ... if yes the sleepers will be dumbed down. Like back then with difficult missions. Noobs failed at the new harder missions, whined for few weeks on forums and the missions were made easier. Same might happen to sleepers. I'd love to see people bring their faction CNRs into W-space
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2009.02.24 05:34:00 - [7] Originally by: Kahega Amielden Originally by: Yakia TovilToba Afaik there will be weaker sleepers if the wormhole is entered from highsec. Since the fakshun CNRs will come from there they probably won't have any problems ... if yes the sleepers will be dumbed down. Like back then with difficult missions. Noobs failed at the new harder missions, whined for few weeks on forums and the missions were made easier. Same might happen to sleepers. I'd love to see people bring their faction CNRs into W-space oh yes please
Yakia TovilToba Halliburton Inc.	Posted - 2009.02.24 06:07:00 - [8] Originally by: Kahega Amielden Originally by: Yakia TovilToba Afaik there will be weaker sleepers if the wormhole is entered from highsec. Since the fakshun CNRs will come from there they probably won't have any problems ... if yes the sleepers will be dumbed down. Like back then with difficult missions. Noobs failed at the new harder missions, whined for few weeks on forums and the missions were made easier. Same might happen to sleepers. I'd love to see people bring their faction CNRs into W-space Why not, CNRs are cheap like dirt nowadays, put some caldari navy ballistic controls on it and voila: a faction fitted CNR.
Junko Togawa	Posted - 2009.02.24 06:24:00 - [9] Of course they'll be made easier, partly to tempt more people out to fight them, partly to make T3 spread easier and more prolific.
Nova Fox Gallente Novafox Shipyards	Posted - 2009.02.24 06:43:00 - [10] there are already complaints on the game development fourm. sleepers dont get dumbed down just smaller bite sizes for the 'easier' ones, like 4 frigates or cruisers instead of 4 battleships which give carriers heart attacks. ============= Pre Order your Sisters of Eve ship today

Perry Amarr The X-Trading Company RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.24 07:47:00 - [11] This Topic fails. 1) Navy Ravens are used by Missionrunners 2) Missionrunners want maximum safety with maximum profit possible 3) So they run Missions in Highsec 4) W-Space has zero protection, zero local intel tools and the attacker has a huge advantage, because he/she doesnt need to click "scan" every 10 seconds. 5) T3 Production is complex and probably useless due to prenerfs all over it. 6) = No solo Navy Ravens in W-Space, just gankers ganking each other as in low sec.
Kalintos Tyl Minmatar	Posted - 2009.02.24 08:26:00 - [12] wormholes are 0.0 = no concord = bears dont enter 60D GTC - shattared link
Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2009.02.24 08:42:00 - [13] Originally by: Minny Sky (This space reserved for all of the solo/empire/bearish players who are going to cry here when the expansion comes out and they cant kill any sleeper spawns at all) Sorry to say, but PVP crew is the one who will be crying. Us empire "carebears" have been specializing in rat killing while you "elite pwn" people. My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet	Posted - 2009.02.24 08:57:00 - [14] Originally by: Sheriff Jones Originally by: Minny Sky (This space reserved for all of the solo/empire/bearish players who are going to cry here when the expansion comes out and they cant kill any sleeper spawns at all) Sorry to say, but PVP crew is the one who will be crying. Us empire "carebears" have been specializing in rat killing while you "elite pwn" people. So you specialized in killing targets that don't tank, have lousy DPS, don't evade fire, don't change targets, don't spider tank and use only light EW, and this will be help you against opponents that are the exact opposite of the above, how exactly? Or is this a joke? Damn, I'm still too sleepy for your posting Jones.
Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2009.02.24 08:59:00 - [15] Originally by: Destination SkillQueue Originally by: Sheriff Jones Originally by: Minny Sky (This space reserved for all of the solo/empire/bearish players who are going to cry here when the expansion comes out and they cant kill any sleeper spawns at all) Sorry to say, but PVP crew is the one who will be crying. Us empire "carebears" have been specializing in rat killing while you "elite pwn" people. So you specialized in killing targets that don't tank, have lousy DPS, don't evade fire, don't change targets, don't spider tank and use only light EW, and this will be help you against opponents that are the exact opposite of the above, how exactly? Or is this a joke? Damn, I'm still too sleepy for your posting Jones. The joke is the original post i quoted. I'm rather sick and tired of this elitist crap going on. My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
Jowen Datloran Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2009.02.24 09:03:00 - [16] Originally by: rValdez5987 actually as a pvper, i think the sleepers are great. If your fleet cant find anyone to pvp, you just scan down a wormhole and go fight sleepers instead. atleast then you will get decent rewards and loot Do you think the Sleepers will give you a fair 1vs1? So far it seems like handling Sleepers requires a group (small or big according to Sleeper difficulty). Does not matter if it is a group of PvEs or PvPs. So it could be that the people complaining about "forced grouping" indeed have something to be annoyed about. I personally do not care, and I am a 100% solo orientated player. ---------------- Mr. Science & Trade Institute
Enkidu Uruksen Wakizashi Renaissance	Posted - 2009.02.24 09:07:00 - [17] It makes sense to me that Empire carebears would be able to figure out how to kill Sleepers: they (we) are tuned to finding the AI patterns and reacting to them. The Sleepers presumably operate according to a fixed algorithm (unlike players), and once you have the algorithm pretty much figured out you can develop a system to counter it. Carebears have the patience to work these things out. However, as has been pointed out, Sleepers aren't likely to be the nastiest enemies in W-space. If carebears got good at accumulating Sleeper loot, they'd be juicier targets than the Sleepers.
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N. Dara Cothrom	Posted - 2009.02.24 09:23:00 - [18] Originally by: Yakia TovilToba Originally by: Kahega Amielden Originally by: Yakia TovilToba Afaik there will be weaker sleepers if the wormhole is entered from highsec. Since the fakshun CNRs will come from there they probably won't have any problems ... if yes the sleepers will be dumbed down. Like back then with difficult missions. Noobs failed at the new harder missions, whined for few weeks on forums and the missions were made easier. Same might happen to sleepers. I'd love to see people bring their faction CNRs into W-space Why not, CNRs are cheap like dirt nowadays, put some caldari navy ballistic controls on it and voila: a faction fitted CNR. True enough. They're getting cheap enough to PvP in (assuming Cruise were any good for PvP).
Esamir	Posted - 2009.02.24 09:36:00 - [19] Originally by: Minny Sky (This space reserved for all of the solo/empire/bearish players who are going to cry here when the expansion comes out and they cant kill any sleeper spawns at all) "CCP, are you kidding me? How am I supposed to bear this?" "Sleepers are too hard. Please 'balance'" "Myself and my other two 'friends' engaged a sleeper spawn with our tricked out CNRs and we all died. WTF? We are quitting game" etc etc etc A pre-gloat about a pre-whine, not bad. (actually it is terrible and you should never post again)
Kayla Voogo	Posted - 2009.02.24 09:56:00 - [20] Can you say "Spidertanking"?

Reven Cordelle Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.02.24 09:57:00 - [21] As far as I know, there will be Wormholes in High Sec too, they just have lesser loot. I can imagine the sec you are in dictates the difficulty and rewards you get. 1.0 = 1/10 style hardness... 0.0 = 10/10 style hardness. I (hope to god) that Wormholes will not all be in nullsec. They'll become SO camped that it'll just get a leeeetle bit annoying. Though I will ASSUME that these wormholes go SLAP bang into 0.0 too. Thing is, The "lost" nature of Wormhole space means that you're pretty ****ing safe in there, except for.. you know. Sleepers... If wormholes appear in ALL securities of space, there should be minimal whining. Unless some asshat thinks he can solo a nullsec wormhole in his Rattlesnake.
5pinDizzy	Posted - 2009.02.24 10:00:00 - [22] As a solo player fighting Sleepers, trick is to pick your fights and know when to take what you could get and get the hell out of there because that triggered spawn was nuts.
Par'Gellen Gallente Tres Hombres Psychiatric Hospital	Posted - 2009.02.24 13:38:00 - [23] Originally by: Perry ...just gankers ganking each other as in low sec. Unfortunately I suspect you are probably correct --- To err is human. But it shouldn't be the company motto...
Arana Tellen Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2009.02.24 13:46:00 - [24] Actually you wont know there is someone in there running a mission untill you scan, you have 2499 systems to scan while one person can go in a system and leave. --------------------------------- Oh noes! Originally by: CCP Greyscale moderated - mother abuse - Mitnal
5pinDizzy	Posted - 2009.02.24 17:00:00 - [25] 1. Find highsec wormhole in populated area. 2. Sit large gang of cloaked falcons and pilgrims on wormhole exit. 3. ??? 4. Profit.
Taylor timenenzi	Posted - 2009.02.24 17:32:00 - [26] Originally by: Sheriff Jones Originally by: Destination SkillQueue Originally by: Sheriff Jones Originally by: Minny Sky (This space reserved for all of the solo/empire/bearish players who are going to cry here when the expansion comes out and they cant kill any sleeper spawns at all) Sorry to say, but PVP crew is the one who will be crying. Us empire "carebears" have been specializing in rat killing while you "elite pwn" people. So you specialized in killing targets that don't tank, have lousy DPS, don't evade fire, don't change targets, don't spider tank and use only light EW, and this will be help you against opponents that are the exact opposite of the above, how exactly? Or is this a joke? Damn, I'm still too sleepy for your posting Jones. The joke is the original post i quoted. I'm rather sick and tired of this elitist crap going on. That bolded part. I miss the live and let die attitude from the early days of EVE. Now its "CAREBEARS ARE RUINING THE GAME" that spews from the lol "hardcore leet pvp" groups. Best part most of them have OMG CNR ALTS RUNNING MISSIONS to pay for their pvp habits. EVE is a game where most every type of gamer can find their niche in it so just shut ya pie hole and go do what you love to do. Im just waiting for the whines coming from the -5 sec people that get dumped into high sec.
Minny Sky	Posted - 2009.02.24 20:29:00 - [27] I hope it stays very difficult, but we all know this will not happen.
5pinDizzy	Posted - 2009.02.24 21:10:00 - [28] Oh also, has anyone else toyed with the humerous idea that someone might be pve'ing against these sleepers when a big nasty piwat comes in to kill the guy trying to get himself some sleeper lootz. However, since the sleepers can run away and the pve'er is likely fitting a warp disruptor himself, oh look he's in a meaner ship for killing poor pve dude, the sleepers are switching targets to combat the percieved threat. xD

CCP Mitnal C C P CCP	Posted - 2009.02.24 22:03:00 - [29] Locked. Troll. Mitnal Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online Email



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