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Alucard Doolb
Minmatar
The Insane Attack Monkeys
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Posted - 2009.02.24 23:57:00 -
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In need of a 2,5 billion bond.
Hello, I'm offering a bond on behalf of The Insane Attack Monkeys
I have found a good way to make a nice 25% profit, with no possibility of a loss.
It might turn bad in sense of profit, but the initial capital will not be lost in anyway.
I will take a 15% cut of the profit, and give 10% to the people buying the bond.
This is a short term operation, and I expect a 10 day turn over of all the capital
I know I'm new, and I also know that getting the founds for the bond is small, due to no rep, small amount of time in the game. But its worth a try since it will make me a nice profit.
And I do not have the capital my self to make it work.
My plan is solid, I have done market research, checked amounts sold in the 4 main trade regions.
And crossed checked them all.
I have the plan ready to roll, all I'm missing is the capital to pull it of.
Giving out the plan for you to look over?
Well I thought about it, but I haven't found a way to make sure the people I tell it to, wont just use there own capital to do it, its quite easy so anyone could do it with there own capital.
But if there's a HIghly trusted member of eve that would give me his or Herr word that they wont tell anyone else, nor use the plan for there own profit, I will disclose the plan in full.
But I know this wont prevent me from taking the Capital for my self, and not returning any profit to the bond holders.
There will be 25 bonds @ 100m each.
10% payout in less than 20 days. Even too I expect it to go out within day's of operation start.
The Bond will Start as soon as I have collected all the capital., and I will write your name under this post as a bond holder, so its clean.
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Alucard Doolb
Minmatar
The Insane Attack Monkeys
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Posted - 2009.02.24 23:57:00 -
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Reserved.
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Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.02.25 00:03:00 -
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So the length of the bond is only going to be 10 days?
If this is a pure trade offer, you need not give out your exact plan but people are going to want to know that you have some history of trading and have no black marks in your past.
Short story is you'll need some form of audit and likely have some questions to answer here soon once the rest of the regular see this.
I'll do it, but it'll cost you a marginal fee and take approx 1 day minimum. |
Thraaies
Amarr
Golden Mechanization Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.02.25 00:14:00 -
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If you are willing to let Kazzac or another member do an audit then I will get 3 bonds with the potential of more in a day or two if needed.
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Alucard Doolb
Minmatar
The Insane Attack Monkeys
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Posted - 2009.02.25 00:20:00 -
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Yes I do not think it will take more than 10 days. To turn around the hole capital.
Yes its kinda all pure trade. I do not have huge amount of skills. And IM going for a Science and industry path in game, as well as combat defense of planned operations.
I do not have assets to back up the loan with, nor any way of making it secure.
I tried in game. But I mostly just got loan contract scams. Or people wanting to know the full details of the plan, before even thinking about investing.
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Thraaies
Amarr
Golden Mechanization Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.02.25 00:35:00 -
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I am still interested, but would like to talk some with you in-game before making the commitment to it. Its hard to gage your character since you have no forum posting history to go off of.
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Mehixa
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Posted - 2009.02.25 01:11:00 -
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 Originally by: Alucard Doolb
In need of a 2,5 billion bond.
Hello, I'm offering a bond on behalf of The Insane Attack Monkeys
I have found a good way to make a nice 25% profit, with no possibility of a loss.
It might turn bad in sense of profit, but the initial capital will not be lost in anyway.
I will take a 15% cut of the profit, and give 10% to the people buying the bond.
This is a short term operation, and I expect a 10 day turn over of all the capital
I know I'm new, and I also know that getting the founds for the bond is small, due to no rep, small amount of time in the game. But its worth a try since it will make me a nice profit.
And I do not have the capital my self to make it work.
My plan is solid, I have done market research, checked amounts sold in the 4 main trade regions.
And crossed checked them all.
I have the plan ready to roll, all I'm missing is the capital to pull it of.
Giving out the plan for you to look over?
Well I thought about it, but I haven't found a way to make sure the people I tell it to, wont just use there own capital to do it, its quite easy so anyone could do it with there own capital.
But if there's a HIghly trusted member of eve that would give me his or Herr word that they wont tell anyone else, nor use the plan for there own profit, I will disclose the plan in full.
But I know this wont prevent me from taking the Capital for my self, and not returning any profit to the bond holders.
There will be 25 bonds @ 100m each.
10% payout in less than 20 days. Even too I expect it to go out within day's of operation start.
The Bond will Start as soon as I have collected all the capital., and I will write your name under this post as a bond holder, so its clean.
So you're new to the game yet somehow have identified a trading opportunity to make tons of cash?
Show your plan to the auditor and have them weigh in on the business risk.
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Alucard Doolb
Minmatar
The Insane Attack Monkeys
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Posted - 2009.02.25 01:18:00 -
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I will, just need to find a auditor first tho.
but im willing to give out the full plan.
If the auditor promise not to use it for him self, nor tell anyone else about it.
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Hexxx
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.02.25 01:34:00 -
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Originally by: Alucard Doolb
I will, just need to find a auditor first tho.
but im willing to give out the full plan.
If the auditor promise not to use it for him self, nor tell anyone else about it.
An auditor like Kazzac wouldn't give out your plan.
An auditor is only as good as the trust people have in them, if an auditor compromises this trust by giving out your plan than they just ruined their career.
EBANK - Chairman of the Board | www.eve-bank.net
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Alucard Doolb
Minmatar
The Insane Attack Monkeys
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Posted - 2009.02.25 01:53:00 -
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If a auditor could post here, and contact me in game.
and i will show you my work.
Kazzac is not online, but i have added him to my freinds list, and will contact him as soon as he comes in game.
i think it would be good with 2 auditors, so i have 2 opinons posted here.
so if anyone else feels like doing a Audit. post here and convo or mail me in game.
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Brock Nelson
Caldari
Flux Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2009.02.25 02:02:00 -
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I might as well look at your plan, will be online in half hour once I'm done screwing around with my main
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cosmoray
Cosmoray Construction
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Posted - 2009.02.25 02:57:00 -
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I have agreed to speak to OP on the grounds that I won't state what he is doing, but I will give my opinion on the business.
I am NOT vouching for the OP, and I am not completing an API audit. I am just reviewing the plan.
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cosmoray
Cosmoray Construction
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Posted - 2009.02.25 03:24:00 -
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I spoke to the OP, he does potentially a profitable scheme, 15-20% minimum, maybe higher.
The problem is that it involves moving through 0.0 and low sec. The characters are both 1 month old and without cov-ops I think the plan is very risky.
I advised the OP to use the funds he has gained from his investors and his own capital and run the plan on a smaller scale (300-500M which he has secured).
Better to come back a success on the forum, and be able to raise new capital than fail spectacularly the first time and no one touch you again.
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Brock Nelson
Caldari
Flux Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2009.02.25 03:28:00 -
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I agree with Cosmoray, the plan is sound with good return but it's high risk. I too, advise that he start with something smaller.
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Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.02.25 03:34:00 -
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OP has two options in my opinion
Submit to a full audit, evemail your API keys for all accounts and I'll chug through them tomorrow and have results by tomorrow night (props to cosmo for performing the business analyst position  )
The charge for that will be 100m, same amount I charge most alliances and corporations for personal vetting. I just happen to have 3 hours of my time available during the day tomorrow.
Or, run with the suggestion of a smaller operation using existing funding. Complete the project and then come back here with a renewed offering.
Do that and I'll audit you for free, free in the sense that I'll pay myself 100m out of one of my investment accounts and write it off as a loss.
I'll be in game first thing in the morning and update the thread dependent on your decision.
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cosmoray
Cosmoray Construction
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Posted - 2009.02.25 03:38:00 -
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To be honest an audit in this case won't show anything of value.
The OP does not have a high net worth.
The OP is in the unfortunate position of being a new player (<1 month), but has a nice idea for a business plan. At 2.5B it is too large to handle within his current skill set (player skill requirements for running the plan).
It is possible to run at a lower level and the OP will still make a nice profit.
The last option is to sell to a more experienced player for a fee, but the player may already have thought of this or can't be bothered.
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Alucard Doolb
Minmatar
The Insane Attack Monkeys
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Posted - 2009.02.25 03:52:00 -
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Yes thanks, for the help, i will start this Bond operation at once. and keep it going. to prove that i can do this.
Ive put alot of work into it, and i feel ready and very secure about my self. i have no doubt i will make it.
Im going to start it right away, with the limited amount of assets i have invested atm.
I cant afford 100m im sorry. so i wont need your audit service. but thanks for the offer.
the bond is still open if anyone else wish to buy in.
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Hexxx
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.02.25 03:55:00 -
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Originally by: Alucard Doolb
Yes thanks, for the help, i will start this Bond operation at once. and keep it going. to prove that i can do this.
Ive put alot of work into it, and i feel ready and very secure about my self. i have no doubt i will make it.
Im going to start it right away, with the limited amount of assets i have invested atm.
I cant afford 100m im sorry. so i wont need your audit service. but thanks for the offer.
the bond is still open if anyone else wish to buy in.
Go forth and prosper. Once you get some successes, come back and you may find that investors will be more willing to loosen their purse strings.
EBANK - Chairman of the Board | www.eve-bank.net
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Brock Nelson
Caldari
Flux Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2009.02.25 03:56:00 -
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But you know what? Props to you for finding this opportunity. I don't think there's that many players out there with only 1 month experience of this game would've found this opportunity
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Shaktar
V Legion
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Posted - 2009.02.25 07:32:00 -
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I would like 1 share. I'll be on l8r on today and send isk.
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Talosh Min'thor
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.02.25 07:49:00 -
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If you are still looking for investors I will buy two bonds. Ill try and contact you in game,
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AqiII
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Posted - 2009.02.25 08:06:00 -
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Edited by: AqiII on 25/02/2009 08:07:22
If there's any left, set me up for 1 bond. I'll be online later today.
/Austa Ryer
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Psionist
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Posted - 2009.02.25 10:11:00 -
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Edited by: Psionist on 25/02/2009 10:11:39
Is this still in the works? I am interested. Please contact me ingame, I'll evemail you when I get to a computer that can run EVE.
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Mistress Jacqueline
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Posted - 2009.02.25 11:33:00 -
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I am looking to start investing some isk so i will also take a bond if they are still available. will contact you ingame later today to confirm.
MJ
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Hexxx
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.02.25 11:44:00 -
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Alucard,
On a completely off-topic note...
I love that Anime. 
EBANK - Chairman of the Board | www.eve-bank.net
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Thraaies
Amarr
Golden Mechanization Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.02.25 15:35:00 -
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Off topic also Hexxx I agree with you a great anime.
Its also good to see people give him a chance to make this happen. Even with a fairly new character he has the drive needed to pull this off from my convo's with him.
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KISOGOKU
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Posted - 2009.02.25 15:49:00 -
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Ill take 3 bonds ,good luck
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Keellan
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Posted - 2009.02.25 21:22:00 -
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I will take 2 bonds, money will be sent tonight.
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etemplar
Caldari
Volition Cult
The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2009.02.26 12:50:00 -
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I will take one bond please, and good luck on your venture, keep an eye out on the gate camps :P money will be sent tonight
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etemplar
Caldari
Volition Cult
The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2009.02.26 12:54:00 -
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due to lack of attentive reading I did not notice that you closed the bond, if you desire more investement money by all means contact me and I will purchase that one bond from you.
Regards and good luck
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