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Benny Ohu
The Lazy Dragoons True Apathy
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Posted - 2012.04.25 11:21:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:What the Idiot is doing is forcing CCP's hand to decide where this game is going to be in 2 years. Unfortunately, this tactic is so anti-thetical to ANY business model, that CCP WILL step in and adjust things at somepoint if this is indeed carried out.
And that is not 'paranoid carebear thinking'. THAT is business reality. The Idiot forgets that EVE is not a toy to CCP.
i agree an mmo where people are allowed to scam and grief each other is just ridiculous no-one will want to play and they want to put all the players on one server too this is never going to work and i am very disappointed because otherwise it could be a good space game and even further
anyway good job at regurgitating other people's analyses |
Adriel Malakai
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
22
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Posted - 2012.04.25 11:21:00 -
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Rengerel en Distel wrote:"The Death -àquad will sow terror among those who think themselves safe from us. Bounties will be paid for the killmails of our enemies; they will be hunted down with locator agents, scouted out by neutral characters, and purged."
Sounds like neutral characters to me.
Your previous post implied they would do the ganking with neutrals. They simply stated they'll be using neutral scouts so their targets don't get a heads up before they strike. Using this tactic is called, "not being a complete idiot." |
Proteus Maximus
New Eden Outcasts Malicious Intent Gentleman's Club
82
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Posted - 2012.04.25 11:22:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:As per 'the king of space': "I am delighted to have found a leader for the Death -àquad project; Warr Akini of Bat Country. Warr recently di-òtinguished himself by leading a small team of Bat Country commandos in ganking 1000 exhumers in a week just to prove that they could. Warr is not just GÇÿsome guyGÇÖ GÇô he is a proven leader with a focus on hisec griefing. He and I have been conferring extensively and this new -àIG is ready to be rolled out in the coming days. The purpose of the Death Squad is to hunt down and punish every bleating pubbie who has felt that they could hide behind Concord and speak out against us without fear. In nullsec we have fought wars of extermination over seemingly innocuous offenses (such as TetsujinGÇÖs sig)GÇÜ yet human garbage l-ûke Jade Constantine and Issler Dainze reside securely, squatting in their empire shitholes, squawking about Goonswarm with no risk. No more. The Death -àquad will sow terror among those who think themselves safe from us. Bounties will be paid for the killmails of our enemies; they will be hunted down with locator agents, scouted out by neutral characters, and purged. Extra bounties will be rewarded for those commandos who bring us particularly entertaining logs. The sort of wretch who the Death -àquad will be unlea-òhed upon is likely to produce a ~lot~ of chatporn when they finally get what they deserve. When not hunting the enemies of the -àtateGÇÜ the Death Squad w-ûll keep its skills sharp by ganking mission runners in deadspace Tengus, blowing up exhumers, and ensuring that our reach is inescapable, even in the GÇÿsafestGÇÖ parts of EVE. " http://www.evenews24.com/2012/04/24/leak-goonswarm-federation-ceo-update-goonswarm-unbound/Talk about forcing CCP's hand to step in and nerf the game. Congratulations Alexander. You have just killed EVE
A very moving and impressive attempt to project fear and dread Sir. I am sure you will be resolute in flowing through with it...Granted you are not afforded access to a non latex or digital vagina in the interim.
Eve... Burn it....Burn it All |
Niko Takahashi
United Starbase Systems
35
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Posted - 2012.04.25 11:22:00 -
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Booring |
Sasha Azala
Blood and Decay
276
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Posted - 2012.04.25 11:28:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Congratulations Alexander. You have just killed EVE
Or the Goons, it will be interesting to see who wins this power struggle, CCP or the Goons.
Might be worth me reading the forums still on occassions.
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Rengerel en Distel
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
52
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Posted - 2012.04.25 11:30:00 -
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Adriel Malakai wrote:Rengerel en Distel wrote:"The Death -àquad will sow terror among those who think themselves safe from us. Bounties will be paid for the killmails of our enemies; they will be hunted down with locator agents, scouted out by neutral characters, and purged."
Sounds like neutral characters to me.
Your previous post implied they would do the ganking with neutrals. They simply stated they'll be using neutral scouts so their targets don't get a heads up before they strike. Using this tactic is called, "not being a complete idiot."
I call it "hiding behind the same game mechanics of every other high sec griefer wardec corp". You're the death squad of the goons, given the task of driving fear into people by your mere presence, but not willing for people to see that presence until you're assured of a kill. Seems then that you're more worried about collecting the bounty and ship reimbursement than you are about making a point with your actions. If i was the leader of a death squad trying to drive fear into people, i think seeing entire alliances camping in a station does that far more effectively then posting a killmail of yet another exhumer alpha'd. If i'm just a griefer with a lot of pals fapping about killmails, then yeah, using neutral characters to scout easy kills would be a great tactic.
Don't assume bad intent, when stupidity is the much more likely cause. |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
764
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Posted - 2012.04.25 11:31:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:What the Idiot is doing is forcing CCP's hand to decide where this game is going to be in 2 years. Unfortunately, this tactic is so anti-thetical to ANY business model, that CCP WILL step in and adjust things at somepoint if this is indeed carried out.
And that is not 'paranoid carebear thinking'. THAT is business reality. The Idiot forgets that EVE is not a toy to CCP. i agree an mmo where people are allowed to scam and grief each other is just ridiculous no-one will want to play and they want to put all the players on one server too this is never going to work and i am very disappointed because otherwise it could be a good space game and even further anyway good job at regurgitating other people's analyses
Once you two ladies figure out how wrong you are, can I have first dibs on your stuffs? Here's your sign... |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
3475
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Posted - 2012.04.25 11:33:00 -
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A war on people who make terrible forum posts?
Let no one ever again accuse goons of only picking on groups smaller than themselves
o7 Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Spurty
D00M. Northern Coalition.
236
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Posted - 2012.04.25 11:34:00 -
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Enjoy the sandbox!
Curiously though, how many flashy reds are going to be in Jita?
"sending flashing red tards home" squads want to know
---- CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off. |
Jonah Gravenstein
167
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Posted - 2012.04.25 11:35:00 -
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Arkady Vachon wrote:the liquidation of enemies of the state is a time-honored tradition amongst evil regimes throughout history, so why should it be any different with the bona fide 'villains of eve'?
For the people whining about them using neutral alts to track down dissenters, do you think that every evil regime in the past hasn't used non-aligned informants for intelligence on the whereabouts of the dissenters?, in recent history every evil regime has relied on family, neighbours or just plain picking up people of the street and interrogating them for information.
It's the way that evil regimes do their dirty work, they turn the populace against each other so that nobody trusts anybody.
War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |
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Adriel Malakai
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
24
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Posted - 2012.04.25 11:41:00 -
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Rengerel en Distel wrote:I call it "hiding behind the same game mechanics of every other high sec griefer wardec corp". You're the death squad of the goons, given the task of driving fear into people by your mere presence, but not willing for people to see that presence until you're assured of a kill. Seems then that you're more worried about collecting the bounty and ship reimbursement than you are about making a point with your actions. If i was the leader of a death squad trying to drive fear into people, i think seeing entire alliances camping in a station does that far more effectively then posting a killmail of yet another exhumer alpha'd. If i'm just a griefer with a lot of pals fapping about killmails, then yeah, using neutral characters to scout easy kills would be a great tactic.
Station camping, in this instance, is not a particularly effective tactic. Since the purpose is to hurt those who caused trouble, the goal is not to simply prevent them from playing EVE how they want to, but to cause as much harm as you can to them. This is done by destroying their assets, which not only costs them ISK and time to replace, but will also make them afraid to play EVE as they normally would (especially once you've killed them a few times). By intelligently ganking their targets (using scouts) they will be far more effective in their campaign - which is exactly why they're going about it in this way. |
Akrasjel Lanate
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
710
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Posted - 2012.04.25 11:41:00 -
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USA finaced death squats diuring cold war in latin america, now goons want to do the same in game.
To judge it how good/bad idea it is we need to see how will it work... soon |
Proteus Maximus
New Eden Outcasts Malicious Intent Gentleman's Club
82
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Posted - 2012.04.25 11:42:00 -
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Rengerel en Distel wrote:Adriel Malakai wrote:Rengerel en Distel wrote:"The Death -àquad will sow terror among those who think themselves safe from us. Bounties will be paid for the killmails of our enemies; they will be hunted down with locator agents, scouted out by neutral characters, and purged."
Sounds like neutral characters to me.
Your previous post implied they would do the ganking with neutrals. They simply stated they'll be using neutral scouts so their targets don't get a heads up before they strike. Using this tactic is called, "not being a complete idiot." I call it "hiding behind the same game mechanics of every other high sec griefer wardec corp". You're the death squad of the goons, given the task of driving fear into people by your mere presence, but not willing for people to see that presence until you're assured of a kill. Seems then that you're more worried about collecting the bounty and ship reimbursement than you are about making a point with your actions. If i was the leader of a death squad trying to drive fear into people, i think seeing entire alliances camping in a station does that far more effectively then posting a killmail of yet another exhumer alpha'd. If i'm just a griefer with a lot of pals fapping about killmails, then yeah, using neutral characters to scout easy kills would be a great tactic. Excellent Point. Nothing like talking the talk & Hiding behind an alt. Way to project mass fear. If I wanted to strike real fear it would go a like this. Have your prey on their knees looking you right in the eye down the muzzle of your weapon. Make them beg for their life, internet space ship or property. Then remove it from them.
You propose to walk up behind them and end it with a single shot to the head. If not for a bounty or reward thats about as gratifying as working in a slaughter house. Big Fun & Very sporting. Eve... Burn it....Burn it All |
Arkady Vachon
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
39
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Posted - 2012.04.25 11:43:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Arkady Vachon wrote:the liquidation of enemies of the state is a time-honored tradition amongst evil regimes throughout history, so why should it be any different with the bona fide 'villains of eve'?
For the people whining about them using neutral alts to track down dissenters, do you think that every evil regime in the past hasn't used non-aligned informants for intelligence on the whereabouts of the dissenters?, in recent history every evil regime has relied on family, neighbours or just plain picking up people off the street and interrogating them for information. It's the way that evil regimes do their dirty work, they turn the populace against each other so that nobody trusts anybody.
QFT Nothing Personal - Just Business...
Chaos Creates Content |
Ank Parkor
WildSpace Otters
40
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Posted - 2012.04.25 11:43:00 -
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While I hate everyone I have to tell that, if successful, theses operations will remain in memory for a long long time. It looks like I'll fly my double repper Abaddon the 28th.
Good luck for your adventure and I hope you will be crushed in a way or another soon after Sandox becomes too small when such situations are possible.
Short time trader, short term missionner, long term ambitions.
Bring justice to EVE:-áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1171333 |
Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
571
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Posted - 2012.04.25 11:46:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: Crying more to ccp to stop people playing how htey want to because it affects what I want Eve to be.. ME! I WANT IT TO BE ABOUT ME!
Theres something wrong with you isnt there... Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |
Andreus Ixiris
Mixed Metaphor Federal Consensus Outreach
801
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Posted - 2012.04.25 11:46:00 -
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What, pray tell, would the Death Squad do if everyone started using forum alts? Andreus Anthony LeHane Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
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Benny Ohu
The Lazy Dragoons True Apathy
60
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Posted - 2012.04.25 11:46:00 -
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So if I understand correctly, we have some people trying to dictate the goals and methods of somebody else's 'death squad'? |
Lord Fargo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
18
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Posted - 2012.04.25 11:47:00 -
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Time for some more wardecs......hold on gimme a few minutes |
Cloned S0ul
Blood Fanatics
10
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Posted - 2012.04.25 11:48:00 -
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So they need 30 tornados fited with 1200mm eatch gank to beat one freighter? Cool, in theory they may drop around 200mil at once, 1200mm are expensive stuf even t1 + some other items ;> and one fited tornado cost around 100mil +- 20mil isk depend fit, cool story, waste around 3bil (30 tornado) to kill one freighter, phatetic strategy. |
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Lord Fargo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
18
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Posted - 2012.04.25 11:50:00 -
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Cloned S0ul wrote:So they need 30 tornados fited with 1200mm eatch gank to beat one freighter? Cool, in theory they may drop around 200mil at once, 1200mm are expensive stuf even t1 + some other items ;> and one fited tornado cost around 100mil +- 20mil isk depend fit, cool story, waste around 3bil (30 tornado) to kill one freighter, phatetic strategy.
You are very dumb,don't post |
Cloned S0ul
Blood Fanatics
10
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Posted - 2012.04.25 11:51:00 -
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Lord Fargo wrote:Cloned S0ul wrote:So they need 30 tornados fited with 1200mm eatch gank to beat one freighter? Cool, in theory they may drop around 200mil at once, 1200mm are expensive stuf even t1 + some other items ;> and one fited tornado cost around 100mil +- 20mil isk depend fit, cool story, waste around 3bil (30 tornado) to kill one freighter, phatetic strategy. You are very dumb,don't post
You mad? never stop posting. |
Jonah Gravenstein
168
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Posted - 2012.04.25 11:51:00 -
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They'll make some of that back by looting their own wrecks while the ever watchful thrashers gank any ninja looters, they aren't stupid and they know exactly what they're about, they perfected this style of gank during the ice interdiction. War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |
Lord Fargo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
18
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Posted - 2012.04.25 11:56:00 -
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Cloned S0ul wrote:Lord Fargo wrote:Cloned S0ul wrote:So they need 30 tornados fited with 1200mm eatch gank to beat one freighter? Cool, in theory they may drop around 200mil at once, 1200mm are expensive stuf even t1 + some other items ;> and one fited tornado cost around 100mil +- 20mil isk depend fit, cool story, waste around 3bil (30 tornado) to kill one freighter, phatetic strategy. You are very dumb,don't post You mad? never stop posting.
Nope not mad. Just you are very dumb and don't take additional things into account ,like we can actually finance this operation, it's not about making money,it's all about burning jita to the ground to extract tears and rage,which I add, will happen |
Proteus Maximus
New Eden Outcasts Malicious Intent Gentleman's Club
82
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Posted - 2012.04.25 11:58:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:They'll make some of that back by looting their own wrecks while the ever watchful thrashers gank any ninja looters, they aren't stupid and they know exactly what they're about, they perfected this style of gank during the ice interdiction.
Oh great Goons. If I where only worthy to eat your poo.. Fixed Eve... Burn it....Burn it All |
Cloned S0ul
Blood Fanatics
10
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Posted - 2012.04.25 12:00:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:They'll make some of that back by looting their own wrecks while the ever watchful thrashers gank any ninja looters, they aren't stupid and they know exactly what they're about, they perfected this style of gank during the ice interdiction.
Well Good luck with looting own loot, while a lot newbis in rooki ships visit jita just because they want wach what happens during event... Loting any wreaks in jita is like lottery, oh wait they sacrifice 20 trashers to kill curple ninja bantams.
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Jonah Gravenstein
168
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Posted - 2012.04.25 12:02:00 -
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It's were, where is a location
And I'm no fan of Goonswarm as such, but you have to admit, they are good at what they do, and what they do is divide & conquer. War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1152
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Posted - 2012.04.25 12:04:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Tanya Powers wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Tanya Powers wrote:Instead of wasting energy expelling air from your mouth and doing dumb noise why don't you just load your auto-canons with RF EMP and have a real talk? WHO, may we ask, are you referring too ? The crybabies always crying because muma isn't there to pick their hand, feed those little trolls, clean their ass etc etc etc. Instead of wasting time in this forum why don't you spend some more in game trying to find some friends and do something about goons, their guns, their ships blahblahblahblahblah usual crap because it's getting boring all you people wining but do nothing about it. Oh, thousands of griefed-out-of-the-game-for-opening-thier-mouths players unsubscribing will be quite loud in CCP's ears. And just what are YOU doing about it ????? hmmmm ???
Riding my cloacky crap that WILL get killed at some point, and try to kill the most of their ships by weaselling and sneaking, yes I do it alone because I've already understood if there's something you should embrace about goons is their ability to learn people from different alliances how to work together instead against each other.
Can you say or do the same? - I don't think so by reading your posts.
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CatreX Nolen
The Syndicate Inc En Garde
8
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Posted - 2012.04.25 12:08:00 -
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Silence us?! Never! brb posting anti Goon bullshit on a few alts.
Really? I don't mind goonies, I will shoot at one if I can, I'd fly with one (although its not likely to happen) I say, go have fun. Blow me up, blow some other random miner up, blow jita up, blow hek up, blow it all up. I'll be there watching :) |
Proteus Maximus
New Eden Outcasts Malicious Intent Gentleman's Club
82
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Posted - 2012.04.25 12:09:00 -
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Quote:you should embrace about goons is their ability to learn people from different alliances how to work together
I lol'ed Thays out there gettin they Learn on. Unintended ebonics are funny. Eve... Burn it....Burn it All |
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