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CKOZUK	Posted - 2004.08.11 11:29:00 - [121] Edited by: CKOZUK on 11/08/2004 11:30:16 Originally by: AvanCade Just wait untill my fraps gets out. You'll see When you died after your heroic CFSDF friends warped out I count 6 CA and 6 of you. Linkage The above text is my own views which may not represent my corps views.
CKOZUK	Posted - 2004.08.11 11:29:00 - [122] Edited by: CKOZUK on 11/08/2004 11:30:16 Originally by: AvanCade Just wait untill my fraps gets out. You'll see When you died after your heroic CFSDF friends warped out I count 6 CA and 6 of you. Linkage The above text is my own views which may not represent my corps views.
Reverend Necrona	Posted - 2004.08.11 11:35:00 - [123] Edited by: Reverend Necrona on 11/08/2004 11:39:57 CFS was a pass time for the CA, When we had nothing else to do - we play for fun and the idea of sitting in a system camping logged off / safespotted enemies is about as appealing as shooting myself in the head (and people are genuinley complaining that black ops will ruin the game? EH? NEWBS!) with a shotgun. Whilst it remains impossible to kill an alliance in this game it is also very had to defend alliance territory at the same time, thus any arguement could be made as to the state of CA space and we'd be here for hours, fact remains that there is a FLAW in eve war mechanics. So with that cleared up ill get back to re-itterating the fact that we have no intention of taking the stations, we do not want to sit around camping for hours, we play for fast, intense at that momment fun. Suffice to say though every time we did engage we dominated. So yes you are right we didn't dominate CFS space, we dominated CFS fleets. I apologise for not putting my point across more clearly. :) Reverend Necrona
Reverend Necrona	Posted - 2004.08.11 11:35:00 - [124] Edited by: Reverend Necrona on 11/08/2004 11:39:57 CFS was a pass time for the CA, When we had nothing else to do - we play for fun and the idea of sitting in a system camping logged off / safespotted enemies is about as appealing as shooting myself in the head (and people are genuinley complaining that black ops will ruin the game? EH? NEWBS!) with a shotgun. Whilst it remains impossible to kill an alliance in this game it is also very had to defend alliance territory at the same time, thus any arguement could be made as to the state of CA space and we'd be here for hours, fact remains that there is a FLAW in eve war mechanics. So with that cleared up ill get back to re-itterating the fact that we have no intention of taking the stations, we do not want to sit around camping for hours, we play for fast, intense at that momment fun. Suffice to say though every time we did engage we dominated. So yes you are right we didn't dominate CFS space, we dominated CFS fleets. I apologise for not putting my point across more clearly. :) Reverend Necrona
Kulach	Posted - 2004.08.11 11:38:00 - [125] Originally by: CKOZUK Edited by: CKOZUK on 11/08/2004 11:30:16 Originally by: AvanCade Just wait untill my fraps gets out. You'll see When you died after your heroic CFSDF friends warped out I count 6 CA and 6 of you. Linkage Good screenie. I belive that put's an end in the argument on who out numbered who... Just because something is fixed doesn't mean you can't break it
Kulach	Posted - 2004.08.11 11:38:00 - [126] Originally by: CKOZUK Edited by: CKOZUK on 11/08/2004 11:30:16 Originally by: AvanCade Just wait untill my fraps gets out. You'll see When you died after your heroic CFSDF friends warped out I count 6 CA and 6 of you. Linkage Good screenie. I belive that put's an end in the argument on who out numbered who... Just because something is fixed doesn't mean you can't break it
DJTheBaron	Posted - 2004.08.11 12:00:00 - [127] Edited by: DJTheBaron on 11/08/2004 12:02:38 Originally by: DJTheBaron on an unrelated note, god thols ativar looks like a "homosexual native americian" to avoid the language filter well if no1 else is going to quote that remark then i'll just have to do it myself __________________________________________________ Scum, your all scum.
DJTheBaron	Posted - 2004.08.11 12:00:00 - [128] Edited by: DJTheBaron on 11/08/2004 12:02:38 Originally by: DJTheBaron on an unrelated note, god thols ativar looks like a "homosexual native americian" to avoid the language filter well if no1 else is going to quote that remark then i'll just have to do it myself __________________________________________________ Scum, your all scum.
AvanCade	Posted - 2004.08.11 12:17:00 - [129] Originally by: CKOZUK Edited by: CKOZUK on 11/08/2004 11:30:16 Originally by: AvanCade Just wait untill my fraps gets out. You'll see When you died after your heroic CFSDF friends warped out I count 6 CA and 6 of you. Linkage Jup you are right. I guess there were few non-CFSDF out there :) http://home.planet.nl/~avantis/CFSDF.vs.CA.[A2-V27.Aug.8th.Timehere].avi some n00b footage :)
AvanCade	Posted - 2004.08.11 12:17:00 - [130] Originally by: CKOZUK Edited by: CKOZUK on 11/08/2004 11:30:16 Originally by: AvanCade Just wait untill my fraps gets out. You'll see When you died after your heroic CFSDF friends warped out I count 6 CA and 6 of you. Linkage Jup you are right. I guess there were few non-CFSDF out there :) http://home.planet.nl/~avantis/CFSDF.vs.CA.[A2-V27.Aug.8th.Timehere].avi some n00b footage :)
Rtogud	Posted - 2004.08.11 12:18:00 - [131] Theese Shinra dude`s are just way to segzy for u !
Rtogud	Posted - 2004.08.11 12:18:00 - [132] Theese Shinra dude`s are just way to segzy for u !
CKOZUK	Posted - 2004.08.11 12:20:00 - [133] Originally by: AvanCade Originally by: CKOZUK Edited by: CKOZUK on 11/08/2004 11:30:16 Originally by: AvanCade Just wait untill my fraps gets out. You'll see When you died after your heroic CFSDF friends warped out I count 6 CA and 6 of you. Linkage Jup you are right. I guess there were few non-CFSDF out there :) http://home.planet.nl/~avantis/CFSDF.vs.CA.[A2-V27.Aug.8th.Timehere].avi some n00b footage :) Linkage for the lazy The above text is my own views which may not represent my corps views.
CKOZUK	Posted - 2004.08.11 12:20:00 - [134] Originally by: AvanCade Originally by: CKOZUK Edited by: CKOZUK on 11/08/2004 11:30:16 Originally by: AvanCade Just wait untill my fraps gets out. You'll see When you died after your heroic CFSDF friends warped out I count 6 CA and 6 of you. Linkage Jup you are right. I guess there were few non-CFSDF out there :) http://home.planet.nl/~avantis/CFSDF.vs.CA.[A2-V27.Aug.8th.Timehere].avi some n00b footage :) Linkage for the lazy The above text is my own views which may not represent my corps views.
CKOZUK	Posted - 2004.08.11 12:31:00 - [135] Originally by: AvanCade Originally by: CKOZUK Edited by: CKOZUK on 11/08/2004 11:30:16 Originally by: AvanCade Just wait untill my fraps gets out. You'll see When you died after your heroic CFSDF friends warped out I count 6 CA and 6 of you. Linkage Jup you are right. I guess there were few non-CFSDF out there :) This is what concerns me about your kill ratio claims you often fly with mixed fleets of CFS and the CFSDF so it seems to me you may well be claiming kills from these fleets but not including the losses of your fellow non CFSDF fleet members. BTW the avi is corrupted looks like it needs re uploading as I assume you watched your creation before posting and it was working correctly. The above text is my own views which may not represent my corps views.
CKOZUK	Posted - 2004.08.11 12:31:00 - [136] Originally by: AvanCade Originally by: CKOZUK Edited by: CKOZUK on 11/08/2004 11:30:16 Originally by: AvanCade Just wait untill my fraps gets out. You'll see When you died after your heroic CFSDF friends warped out I count 6 CA and 6 of you. Linkage Jup you are right. I guess there were few non-CFSDF out there :) This is what concerns me about your kill ratio claims you often fly with mixed fleets of CFS and the CFSDF so it seems to me you may well be claiming kills from these fleets but not including the losses of your fellow non CFSDF fleet members. BTW the avi is corrupted looks like it needs re uploading as I assume you watched your creation before posting and it was working correctly. The above text is my own views which may not represent my corps views.
HeadHunta II	Posted - 2004.08.11 12:31:00 - [137] To CA: You should know that it is a way easier to invade a system with a good gang and hold it while your enemy have to build up a gang, get fighting ppl together and need to fly up to the camped system. This all takes time. In that time u may get some loners, who jump in, even if they had been warned before. You guys are good at pvp, no doubt, but you cant come along and tell the community that there is no real defense in CFS. We have no fleet logged 1 system far away from our entry system, rdy to engage. You have as we saw last time in HED. You messing arround like "Hey, u got 2 of US we got 4 of U!" OMG, should i applaud now? Its no wonder in battles, where you have the advantage of more ships. and its mostly like this. We fight with less ships, if u have less ships..u run. Thats the big difference. (speaking for the gangs where i took part in) And it dm if there were frig, cruiser or BS kills, ship is ship and kill is kill. For both sides. Its fun to fight with ya and i hope we will have some more battles. To CFS: Sometimes i really wonder why me and my mates (ASCI and other corps which are not in CFS) risk our ships fighting enemys of CFS. Why we do it, you ask? Easy, its fun. But i have to say one thing here, real CFS Members are not very often seen in the gangs vs CA and others. Sure there are some brave pilots, but i must admit that i see no real CFS force or a real CFS there anymore. And to the station owners in querious: Letting others defend ur stations while u are not even in querious, well...nothing to add. BA is FA now and still stations in querius which is CFS. What about it? And what about if i say BA you never cared much about CFS? And what about if i say that the fighting forces and some corps in CFS dont even have an office in the stations? Well...nothing do add. Think about. "Get in where u fit in!" "-V- Minister of foreign affairs" "CEO Ascendancy-Inc."
HeadHunta II	Posted - 2004.08.11 12:31:00 - [138] To CA: You should know that it is a way easier to invade a system with a good gang and hold it while your enemy have to build up a gang, get fighting ppl together and need to fly up to the camped system. This all takes time. In that time u may get some loners, who jump in, even if they had been warned before. You guys are good at pvp, no doubt, but you cant come along and tell the community that there is no real defense in CFS. We have no fleet logged 1 system far away from our entry system, rdy to engage. You have as we saw last time in HED. You messing arround like "Hey, u got 2 of US we got 4 of U!" OMG, should i applaud now? Its no wonder in battles, where you have the advantage of more ships. and its mostly like this. We fight with less ships, if u have less ships..u run. Thats the big difference. (speaking for the gangs where i took part in) And it dm if there were frig, cruiser or BS kills, ship is ship and kill is kill. For both sides. Its fun to fight with ya and i hope we will have some more battles. To CFS: Sometimes i really wonder why me and my mates (ASCI and other corps which are not in CFS) risk our ships fighting enemys of CFS. Why we do it, you ask? Easy, its fun. But i have to say one thing here, real CFS Members are not very often seen in the gangs vs CA and others. Sure there are some brave pilots, but i must admit that i see no real CFS force or a real CFS there anymore. And to the station owners in querious: Letting others defend ur stations while u are not even in querious, well...nothing to add. BA is FA now and still stations in querius which is CFS. What about it? And what about if i say BA you never cared much about CFS? And what about if i say that the fighting forces and some corps in CFS dont even have an office in the stations? Well...nothing do add. Think about. "Get in where u fit in!" "-V- Minister of foreign affairs" "CEO Ascendancy-Inc."
AvanCade	Posted - 2004.08.11 12:37:00 - [139] The video works. It needs XviD 1.0 codec and Mp3 codec for sound. Quote: :: MPClassic :: [+òòòòòòòòòò] CFSDF.vs.CA.[A2-V27.Aug.8th.Timehere] :: 00:07/04:02 :: 640x480 :: 24,991 fps :: 20.84MB :: XviD MPEG-4 codec ::
AvanCade	Posted - 2004.08.11 12:37:00 - [140] The video works. It needs XviD 1.0 codec and Mp3 codec for sound. Quote: :: MPClassic :: [+òòòòòòòòòò] CFSDF.vs.CA.[A2-V27.Aug.8th.Timehere] :: 00:07/04:02 :: 640x480 :: 24,991 fps :: 20.84MB :: XviD MPEG-4 codec ::
Kulach	Posted - 2004.08.11 12:45:00 - [141] Originally by: HeadHunta II To CA: You should know that it is a way easier to invade a system with a good gang and hold it while your enemy have to build up a gang, get fighting ppl together and need to fly up to the camped system. This all takes time. In that time u may get some loners, who jump in, even if they had been warned before. You guys are good at pvp, no doubt, but you cant come along and tell the community that there is no real defense in CFS. We have no fleet logged 1 system far away from our entry system, rdy to engage. You have as we saw last time in HED. You messing arround like "Hey, u got 2 of US we got 4 of U!" OMG, should i applaud now? Its no wonder in battles, where you have the advantage of more ships. and its mostly like this. We fight with less ships, if u have less ships..u run. Thats the big difference. (speaking for the gangs where i took part in) And it dm if there were frig, cruiser or BS kills, ship is ship and kill is kill. For both sides. Its fun to fight with ya and i hope we will have some more battles. To CFS: Sometimes i really wonder why me and my mates (ASCI and other corps which are not in CFS) risk our ships fighting enemys of CFS. Why we do it, you ask? Easy, its fun. But i have to say one thing here, real CFS Members are not very often seen in the gangs vs CA and others. Sure there are some brave pilots, but i must admit that i see no real CFS force or a real CFS there anymore. And to the station owners in querious: Letting others defend ur stations while u are not even in querious, well...nothing to add. BA is FA now and still stations in querius which is CFS. What about it? And what about if i say BA you never cared much about CFS? And what about if i say that the fighting forces and some corps in CFS dont even have an office in the stations? Well...nothing do add. Think about. One thing I would like to add to the above post is that this thread was not made by a CA member (even though there are sevral CA reply in it). Just because something is fixed doesn't mean you can't break it
Kulach	Posted - 2004.08.11 12:45:00 - [142] Originally by: HeadHunta II To CA: You should know that it is a way easier to invade a system with a good gang and hold it while your enemy have to build up a gang, get fighting ppl together and need to fly up to the camped system. This all takes time. In that time u may get some loners, who jump in, even if they had been warned before. You guys are good at pvp, no doubt, but you cant come along and tell the community that there is no real defense in CFS. We have no fleet logged 1 system far away from our entry system, rdy to engage. You have as we saw last time in HED. You messing arround like "Hey, u got 2 of US we got 4 of U!" OMG, should i applaud now? Its no wonder in battles, where you have the advantage of more ships. and its mostly like this. We fight with less ships, if u have less ships..u run. Thats the big difference. (speaking for the gangs where i took part in) And it dm if there were frig, cruiser or BS kills, ship is ship and kill is kill. For both sides. Its fun to fight with ya and i hope we will have some more battles. To CFS: Sometimes i really wonder why me and my mates (ASCI and other corps which are not in CFS) risk our ships fighting enemys of CFS. Why we do it, you ask? Easy, its fun. But i have to say one thing here, real CFS Members are not very often seen in the gangs vs CA and others. Sure there are some brave pilots, but i must admit that i see no real CFS force or a real CFS there anymore. And to the station owners in querious: Letting others defend ur stations while u are not even in querious, well...nothing to add. BA is FA now and still stations in querius which is CFS. What about it? And what about if i say BA you never cared much about CFS? And what about if i say that the fighting forces and some corps in CFS dont even have an office in the stations? Well...nothing do add. Think about. One thing I would like to add to the above post is that this thread was not made by a CA member (even though there are sevral CA reply in it). Just because something is fixed doesn't mean you can't break it
CKOZUK	Posted - 2004.08.11 12:46:00 - [143] Originally by: AvanCade The video works. It needs XviD 1.0 codec and Mp3 codec for sound. Quote: :: MPClassic :: [+òòòòòòòòòò] CFSDF.vs.CA.[A2-V27.Aug.8th.Timehere] :: 00:07/04:02 :: 640x480 :: 24,991 fps :: 20.84MB :: XviD MPEG-4 codec :: Yeah i got all the relevant codecs due to my addiction of downloading off newsgroups and ftps I guess the file was corrupted on upload so need reuploading. On checking it with some tools i got the file is corrupted after 59 seconds so guess it corrupted when uploading. If your copy on HD works i suggest re uploading it. The above text is my own views which may not represent my corps views.
CKOZUK	Posted - 2004.08.11 12:46:00 - [144] Originally by: AvanCade The video works. It needs XviD 1.0 codec and Mp3 codec for sound. Quote: :: MPClassic :: [+òòòòòòòòòò] CFSDF.vs.CA.[A2-V27.Aug.8th.Timehere] :: 00:07/04:02 :: 640x480 :: 24,991 fps :: 20.84MB :: XviD MPEG-4 codec :: Yeah i got all the relevant codecs due to my addiction of downloading off newsgroups and ftps I guess the file was corrupted on upload so need reuploading. On checking it with some tools i got the file is corrupted after 59 seconds so guess it corrupted when uploading. If your copy on HD works i suggest re uploading it. The above text is my own views which may not represent my corps views.
AvanCade	Posted - 2004.08.11 12:51:00 - [145] i clicked the link to the site. watched it from there. it works :)
AvanCade	Posted - 2004.08.11 12:51:00 - [146] i clicked the link to the site. watched it from there. it works :)
toaster	Posted - 2004.08.11 12:53:00 - [147] Edited by: toaster on 11/08/2004 12:57:20 Originally by: Cardassius And when they go down to a station a massive blob form behind them and at the station and then they log. we did this once recently (~ a month ago). We rolled down the A2 pipe, down to the querious station with about 6 BSs. In our 3 days of doing this we estimated that we took 14 BSs from various CFS and other unaffiliated corps and no losses except a few frigs, I have a portion of it frapsed. One night on our way back up we got blobbed in the A2 pipe, we had 4 BSs at the time if memory serves and the blobbers had somewhere in the realm of 9 or 10. We decided against engaging at that point. Not sure if its us you're talking about cardassius. I will admit that BA and some CFS corps can blob like it's nobodys business. In my experience in CFS space as of the last 2-3 months, generally we can't get a fight unless the odds are favorable to the enemy, normally its a 2:1 ratio or close to it before we see a fight (or at least a large backup force waiting on the other side of the gate) and with those odds we end up losing our taste for a fight. From what I've heard, a lot of action takes place when we are not online so maybe it's just a timezone thing. my 2 isk on the CFS situation ------------------------------------------------
toaster	Posted - 2004.08.11 12:53:00 - [148] Edited by: toaster on 11/08/2004 12:57:20 Originally by: Cardassius And when they go down to a station a massive blob form behind them and at the station and then they log. we did this once recently (~ a month ago). We rolled down the A2 pipe, down to the querious station with about 6 BSs. In our 3 days of doing this we estimated that we took 14 BSs from various CFS and other unaffiliated corps and no losses except a few frigs, I have a portion of it frapsed. One night on our way back up we got blobbed in the A2 pipe, we had 4 BSs at the time if memory serves and the blobbers had somewhere in the realm of 9 or 10. We decided against engaging at that point. Not sure if its us you're talking about cardassius. I will admit that BA and some CFS corps can blob like it's nobodys business. In my experience in CFS space as of the last 2-3 months, generally we can't get a fight unless the odds are favorable to the enemy, normally its a 2:1 ratio or close to it before we see a fight (or at least a large backup force waiting on the other side of the gate) and with those odds we end up losing our taste for a fight. From what I've heard, a lot of action takes place when we are not online so maybe it's just a timezone thing. my 2 isk on the CFS situation ------------------------------------------------
Loka	Posted - 2004.08.11 13:02:00 - [149] Originally by: toaster Edited by: toaster on 11/08/2004 12:57:20 Originally by: Cardassius And when they go down to a station a massive blob form behind them and at the station and then they log. we did this once recently (~ a month ago). We rolled down the A2 pipe, down to the querious station with about 6 BSs. In our 3 days of doing this we estimated that we took 14 BSs from various CFS and other unaffiliated corps and no losses except a few frigs, I have a portion of it frapsed. One night on our way back up we got blobbed in the A2 pipe, we had 4 BSs at the time if memory serves and the blobbers had somewhere in the realm of 9 or 10. We decided against engaging at that point. Not sure if its us you're talking about cardassius. I will admit that BA and some CFS corps can blob like it's nobodys business. In my experience in CFS space as of the last 2-3 months, generally we can't get a fight unless the odds are favorable to the enemy, normally its a 2:1 ratio or close to it before we see a fight (or at least a large backup force waiting on the other side of the gate) and with those odds we end up losing our taste for a fight. From what I've heard, a lot of action takes place when we are not online so maybe it's just a timezone thing. my 2 isk on the CFS situation even if iam no more CFS, what you say its not true. During my time we fought even if we were outnumbered. Sure you try to outnumber your enemy, thats a tactic. But if you remember i fought 4 Cruisers with my BS alone. And i fought 13 frigates with my BS alone. So you cant tell me CFS hadnt fighters not willing to fight except they outblob their enemys. _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
Loka	Posted - 2004.08.11 13:02:00 - [150] Originally by: toaster Edited by: toaster on 11/08/2004 12:57:20 Originally by: Cardassius And when they go down to a station a massive blob form behind them and at the station and then they log. we did this once recently (~ a month ago). We rolled down the A2 pipe, down to the querious station with about 6 BSs. In our 3 days of doing this we estimated that we took 14 BSs from various CFS and other unaffiliated corps and no losses except a few frigs, I have a portion of it frapsed. One night on our way back up we got blobbed in the A2 pipe, we had 4 BSs at the time if memory serves and the blobbers had somewhere in the realm of 9 or 10. We decided against engaging at that point. Not sure if its us you're talking about cardassius. I will admit that BA and some CFS corps can blob like it's nobodys business. In my experience in CFS space as of the last 2-3 months, generally we can't get a fight unless the odds are favorable to the enemy, normally its a 2:1 ratio or close to it before we see a fight (or at least a large backup force waiting on the other side of the gate) and with those odds we end up losing our taste for a fight. From what I've heard, a lot of action takes place when we are not online so maybe it's just a timezone thing. my 2 isk on the CFS situation even if iam no more CFS, what you say its not true. During my time we fought even if we were outnumbered. Sure you try to outnumber your enemy, thats a tactic. But if you remember i fought 4 Cruisers with my BS alone. And i fought 13 frigates with my BS alone. So you cant tell me CFS hadnt fighters not willing to fight except they outblob their enemys. _____________________________________ Dead or Alive

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