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Dyaven
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.02.27 02:46:00 -
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I know this probably sounds a bit crazy, but I think it might work. The main reasoning behind this setup is the ability to have almost complete control over who I engage and when I engage them due to the ability to warp cloaked. Thanks to it's six midslots and T2 resists, it can fit a half-decent tank and it's DPS isn't horrible either. Plugging in most relevant skills to IV and a +1% CPU implant, I get ~31.5k EHP, about 65 dps tanked, and ~350 dps.
[Arazu, Solo] Damage Control II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Hammerhead II x3 Hobgoblin II x2
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AtheistOfDoom
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Posted - 2009.02.27 02:52:00 -
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IMO an arazu is a gang super-tackler/damper. if you try to kill anything bigger than a t1 cruiser (and sometimes not even that) youll get pwned.
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Lilith Velkor
Minmatar DEATH'S LEGION Red Box.
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Posted - 2009.02.27 03:00:00 -
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Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 27/02/2009 03:00:37 I'd suggest to invest in faction scramblers, you can use every extra km on the scrams you can get. (Ideally you'd have a Claymore boosting you)
Also armor tank would prolly work better, as you free up slots for disruptor (initial tackle), and RSDs to keep you safe. You'd get a bigger selection of possible targets that way.
Also rails arent a bad idea, as you can avoid getting hit at all with many cruiser size targets using RSD.
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Dyaven
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.02.27 03:02:00 -
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Originally by: Lilith Velkor Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 27/02/2009 03:00:37 I'd suggest to invest in faction scramblers, you can use every extra km on the scrams you can get. (Ideally you'd have a Claymore boosting you)
Also armor tank would prolly work better, as you free up slots for disruptor (initial tackle), and RSDs to keep you safe. You'd get a bigger selection of possible targets that way.
Also rails arent a bad idea, as you can avoid getting hit at all with many cruiser size targets using RSD.
What you just described is a conventional Arazu setup, which really isn't what was I going for here if you didn't realize. 
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Lilith Velkor
Minmatar DEATH'S LEGION Red Box.
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Posted - 2009.02.27 03:07:00 -
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Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 27/02/2009 03:07:52
Originally by: Dyaven
What you just described is a conventional Arazu setup, which really isn't what was I going for here if you didn't realize. 
Well, the blaster fit certainly is an option combined with the cloak, a mate flew his Arazu that way regularly and had quite a bit of success with it pre-QR (it gets around 400 dps iirc, which is a nice surprise to decloak for sure).
Still, imo with the QR patch the 'classic' setup is the better choice, if you can call it classic even with scramblers on it. It is basically the classic approach to combat though.
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Dyaven
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.02.27 03:10:00 -
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Originally by: Lilith Velkor Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 27/02/2009 03:07:52
Originally by: Dyaven
What you just described is a conventional Arazu setup, which really isn't what was I going for here if you didn't realize. 
Well, the blaster fit certainly is an option combined with the cloak, a mate flew his Arazu that way regularly and had quite a bit of success with it pre-QR (it gets around 400 dps iirc, which is a nice surprise to decloak for sure).
Still, imo with the QR patch the 'classic' setup is the better choice, if you can call it classic even with scramblers on it. It is basically the classic approach to combat though.
I assume a setup like this is what your going for? Obviously much more expensive, much less likely to die, but not nearly as solo-capable.
[Arazu, Arazu] Damage Control II Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor Domination Warp Scrambler Remote Sensor Dampener II, Targeting Range Dampening Remote Sensor Dampener II, Targeting Range Dampening Remote Sensor Dampener II, Targeting Range Dampening
250mm Railgun II, Spike M 250mm Railgun II, Spike M 250mm Railgun II, Spike M Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Particle Dispersion Projector I Particle Dispersion Projector I
Hammerhead II x3 Hobgoblin II x2
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Lilith Velkor
Minmatar DEATH'S LEGION Red Box.
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Posted - 2009.02.27 03:22:00 -
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Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 27/02/2009 03:25:28 Yea, something along these lines, though I had at least 2 scramblers in mind with 2 RSD and a plain t2 disrupt, maybe even 3 scramblers and no disrupt. Much like your OP setup I think cloak is there to get within tackle range, dont necessarily need a super-longrange point, although it can be useful if you want to get a solid advantage out of the RSDs, more so with longer ranged ammo.
Idea is to be a bit more safe from sudden blobbage by negating more MWDs, or being able to take more than one target at once, but thats personal taste I guess.
Also was thinking 200mm rails instead of the 250s, but more dps cant hurt I guess given its rather lowish to start with.
For buffer I had a 800mm plate, with a dc2 and 2x eanm, but could also think of a repped setup which would likely incorporate a cap booster (which is opening another can of worms though).
Rigs I dont know, dispersion projectors seem to be a bit of a waste, as you dont engage at these ranges typically where you benefit from them, maybe targeting subcontrollers to assist in the decloak-and-tackle area.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2009.02.27 03:27:00 -
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x laser pilgrim!
I wanna join! 
I guess it works but selective targeting is a big part of it.
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Raimo
Gallente Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.02.27 11:44:00 -
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The Blarazu is really nice but not too useful in gangs. Solo, it can be tons of fun and surprisingly good... BTW, I have a bunch of Arazu's (One fit very close to the OP, tho I crammed neutrons in) and Lach's and none of them fit damps. Either shield tanking or seboed tackling for me.
I know that the regular damp setup *can* be useful in the right gang but I'm too much of a KM ***** to fly anything with so little DPS unless it is for the sole purpose of catching stuff. ;) ---
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Deathhawk
Hammersmith Hardmen Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2009.02.27 11:57:00 -
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Originally by: AtheistOfDoom IMO an arazu is a gang super-tackler/damper. if you try to kill anything bigger than a t1 cruiser (and sometimes not even that) youll get pwned.
hmm do you fly this ship...
oh and its a horrible ship people should stay away and get a harby or something 
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Dasalt Istgut
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Posted - 2009.02.27 14:17:00 -
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If you swap the web for a longer range disruptor and swap the named scram for a faction scram then you've got a very powerful fit. It can tank well, it can do good DPS, etc. The lachesis is a little stronger in this setup but the Arazu is still good. You won't kill a battleship with it, you won't kill a curse or pilgrim with it but it's still a powerful setup especially in recon gangs where it can very effectively hold a target and tank a target until the gang arrives.
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Raimo
Gallente Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.02.27 16:18:00 -
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Edited by: Raimo on 27/02/2009 16:19:21
Originally by: Dasalt Istgut If you swap the web for a longer range disruptor and swap the named scram for a faction scram then you've got a very powerful fit. It can tank well, it can do good DPS, etc. The lachesis is a little stronger in this setup but the Arazu is still good. You won't kill a battleship with it, you won't kill a curse or pilgrim with it but it's still a powerful setup especially in recon gangs where it can very effectively hold a target and tank a target until the gang arrives.
The web is needed for solo work. For gangs long and short point is better of course, though for gangs you should probably just fit either a "standard" damp Zu or a fast locking armor tanker TBH. Might even wanna go for a Lach unless the gang *really* needs sneaky...
I agree on faction scram, maybe even go faction web as well if you can stomach the costs... It does surprise people. :P ---
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