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Atima
Minmatar House of Marbles
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Posted - 2009.02.28 20:12:00 -
[1]
Fixed Assets 51,000,000,000
Liquid assets 20,040,000,000
Liabilities 6,000,000,000 to myself 400,000,000 debt to share holders
NAV 64,600,000,000
Profit *
Dividend 2,400,000,000 (4%)
Values for fixed assets were calculated using the price I paid for them. Liquid from the current market value.
*No profit was calculated this month, however I will provide a figure for next month. The reasons were stated in the offering thread. I will be calculating the profit by keeping an up to date NAV sheet and the growth will be used to calculate that months profits.
Forcast Profit this month using todays prices. 4,528,870,882.40 (7.55%)
Rarther low due to me being in the process of liquidating the other side of the business. Should have picked up by next month.
Next months dividend 2,400,000,000 (4%)
This month will be the last month of minimum dividends. At the end of this month I will launch a vote to shareholders as to if they would like to continue the reinvestment phase further or move into the capped 10% payout phase.
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Claire Voyant
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Posted - 2009.03.01 05:07:00 -
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So break-up value is 10.77 million per share?
In other words, in two months you have paid out 8% in dividends and made another 7.7% profit for a total profit of 15.7% in two months. Not bad for a start-up.
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Togen Lei
Gallente Abyssal Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2009.03.01 20:37:00 -
[3]
Edited by: Togen Lei on 01/03/2009 20:38:17 Very nice looking report Atima. Ty for the update 
Edit: Just realized I bought those 5 extra shares below share value 
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Atima
Minmatar Wurmz.
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Posted - 2009.04.01 09:55:00 -
[4]
Fixed Assets 46,000,000,000
Liquid assets 18,200,000,000
NAV 64,000,000,000
Profit -400,000,000
Dividend 2,400,000,000 (4%)
Values for fixed assets were calculated using the price I paid for them. Liquid from the current market value.
*Profit shows as negative this month as less than minimum dividend was made. This was due to several little reasons such as production being delayed when I was unable to enter jita around the patch day to move my minerals, BPO's were moved station and also mineral compression was used for the first time, which I forgot it would take time to compress :).
Also a slight lack of dedication from myself, I've been busy in RL recently and will become more so. I will do my best to keep on top of things, however if anyone would be interested in helping out it would be great. Just some build slots and managing some market orders - ideal candidate will have good reputation, willing to help for the sake of helping (since this whole project is voluntary ) or collateral.
Forcast Profit this month using todays prices. 3,337,288,390.33
Next months dividend Based upon profit.
Remember forcasted profits are not accurate, it assumes that the market does not change at all over the coming month when suprisingly it does :)
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Atima
Minmatar Wurmz.
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Posted - 2009.04.01 14:01:00 -
[5]
Also I'll add I'm currently increasing production by using some spare assets to buy some more component BPOs and build more carriers = more profit. :)
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles Zzz
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Posted - 2009.04.01 14:53:00 -
[6]
There have been delays getting all the BPOs locked down in the right place - I was on holiday for the past week - but this has now been sorted out, and the pace is picking up again. The first shipment of compressed minerals has been delivered and will be put to work over the next day or two.
The BPO juggling is all above board; the remaining freighter/orca BPOs are being liquidated, as per the shareholder vote, and a couple of spare carrier BPOs that have come out of research are being sold to finance the purchase of the necessary component BPOs to put the remaining two into production along with all the others. Rest assured that there will be no further changes to the secured % of the original capital without another shareholder vote going through. --- 20:1 mineral compression ISRC Racing, Season 7 - schedule |

Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles Zzz
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Posted - 2009.04.04 16:19:00 -
[7]
Progress is being made. 34 assorted capital blueprints, with a value of approximately 42.7bn isk are now locked down at the new production location. This represents a level of security of 71% for the 60bn isk originally invested, just above the 70% level set by the most recent vote.
Nearly all of the materials are in place for the next round of build jobs, which will begin as soon as the necessary characters have rejoined the corp. --- 20:1 mineral compression ISRC Racing, Season 7 - schedule |

Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles Zzz
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Posted - 2009.04.15 14:02:00 -
[8]
Minor update: as of a few days ago, all production staff have signed on and work has resumed at full pace. --- 20:1 mineral compression ISRC Racing, Season 7 - schedule |

Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles Zzz
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Posted - 2009.04.26 09:59:00 -
[9]
As of today, neither Atima nor any of Atima's alts have been online for a week. This absence was not announced in advance either to myself or to the other players Atima engaged to help with production, who have been online recently. No assets belonging to the IPO are missing.
If I don't hear from Atima by next weekend, I propose that the shareholders vote on what course of action to take. --- 20:1 mineral compression ISRC Racing, Season 7 - schedule |

Shavana
Made in Canada
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Posted - 2009.04.27 13:12:00 -
[10]
Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro As of today, neither Atima nor any of Atima's alts have been online for a week. This absence was not announced in advance either to myself or to the other players Atima engaged to help with production, who have been online recently. No assets belonging to the IPO are missing.
If I don't hear from Atima by next weekend, I propose that the shareholders vote on what course of action to take.
And the fun starts haha
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Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.04.27 13:52:00 -
[11]
Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro As of today, neither Atima nor any of Atima's alts have been online for a week. This absence was not announced in advance either to myself or to the other players Atima engaged to help with production, who have been online recently. No assets belonging to the IPO are missing.
If I don't hear from Atima by next weekend, I propose that the shareholders vote on what course of action to take.
Hit by a bus more than likely |

TheScienceMonkey
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Posted - 2009.04.27 14:28:00 -
[12]
And things were beginning to tick along so nicely too.
He did mention that real life was getting busy so maybe that's just it.
I'd give it another week and then discuss what action to take.
Assuming the worst... can I have his stuff?
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles Zzz
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Posted - 2009.04.27 19:03:00 -
[13]
Having checked the 4 sets of API keys that Atima provided, it seems that the subscriptions have expired for 2 of the accounts, including the one containing CEO (and only member) of the shell corp used to issue the shares. Unfortunately, this means I cannot easily compile a list of current shareholders in the event that we need to run a vote.
It's definitely worth waiting, at the very least, until this weekend. If nothing happens by then, I suppose we have to consider our options:
1. Liquidate. Not ideal, as there are currently hundreds of capital components at the build location. If it becomes necessary I can build the last batch of ships myself.
2. Find a new manager to fill Atima's position and resume production
3. Continue to wait. --- 20:1 mineral compression ISRC Racing, Season 7 - schedule |

Ambo
EMMA Test Corp
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Posted - 2009.04.27 19:13:00 -
[14]
Agreed, give him till next weekend.
If we still hear nothing by then, I think we'll have to take some sort of action though. --------------------------------------
Trader? Investor? Just want to track your finances? Check out EMMA |

Frenden Dax
Dax Acquisitions
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Posted - 2009.04.27 22:02:00 -
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I am not quite sure how a new manager would work; as I understand it, Atima has (had?) 30% of the NAV liquid in order to buy minerals, etc. That's 18b+ that would have to come from somewhere if this was to be undertaken by someone else. I'm not sure how much of that is represented by assets currently under the control of Kaz, but I doubt that all of it is.
Personally I hope that Atima returns and resumes production, but we'll see what happens.
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Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.04.27 23:18:00 -
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Originally by: Frenden Dax I am not quite sure how a new manager would work; as I understand it, Atima has (had?) 30% of the NAV liquid in order to buy minerals, etc. That's 18b+ that would have to come from somewhere if this was to be undertaken by someone else. I'm not sure how much of that is represented by assets currently under the control of Kaz, but I doubt that all of it is.
Personally I hope that Atima returns and resumes production, but we'll see what happens.
Nothing is missing at this point so even the liquid stuff should still be there |

Sugar Jugs
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Posted - 2009.04.28 02:08:00 -
[17]
Mail sent to Kazuo.
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles Zzz
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Posted - 2009.04.28 09:17:00 -
[18]
Atima was informally using his private wallet for many of the transactions related to the IPO; this would have made sense to him at the time, as he had 6bn of his isk and some personal assets to help tide things over prior to the expansion. I understand these have been paid back, but I'm not sure exactly how much is currently held in this way.
Here's the current state of affairs:
- Approx. 400m worth of leftover minerals at the production location
- Approx. 43bn isk worth of locked BPOs at the production location.
- 644m in the IPO wallet division
- Capital ship components worth 7.3bn isk if reprocessed, or about 8.9bn isk if built into carriers.
- Two unlocked ME 2 Chimera BPOs at a separate site, estimated value 2.4bn isk - these were going to be sold to raise some additional cash iirc.
- 1 Medium control tower - 200m
NAV: 55.5bn isk
A further 800m worth of minerals that are almost certainly from the IPO are located in one of Atima's personal hangars (at the highsec mineral drop-off point).
As the previous NAV was 64bn isk, and no dividends have been paid since then, it would appear that Atima is currently holding onto about 9bn isk, or roughly the funds needed to buy minerals for the next batch of components while the outstanding batch of carriers is built.
For now, I'll see about getting the outstanding batch of carriers going. --- 20:1 mineral compression ISRC Racing, Season 7 - schedule |

Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.04.28 12:22:00 -
[19]
Doesn't sound shady, just sounds like someones personal life hit em like a freight train.
Give him a week or two and if the built slots are available, finish up the production runs. If the program needs extra slots I'd be more than willing to assist. |

Bad Bobby
Ugly Toys Zzz
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Posted - 2009.04.28 15:50:00 -
[20]
Originally by: Kazzac Elentria Doesn't sound shady, just sounds like someones personal life hit em like a freight train.
Give him a week or two and if the built slots are available, finish up the production runs. If the program needs extra slots I'd be more than willing to assist.
This.
Plus I'd be quite happy to pitch in if an extra pair of hands is required.
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YouGotRipped
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2009.04.28 15:59:00 -
[21]
Edited by: YouGotRipped on 28/04/2009 15:59:31
Originally by: Bad Bobby
Originally by: Kazzac Elentria Doesn't sound shady, just sounds like someones personal life hit em like a freight train.
Give him a week or two and if the built slots are available, finish up the production runs. If the program needs extra slots I'd be more than willing to assist.
This.
Plus I'd be quite happy to pitch in if an extra pair of hands is required.
You can count on me as well. However if you decide to liquidate please drop me a mail, I might be interested in picking up some of your capital component BPOs.
Black Sun Empire |

Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.04.28 16:04:00 -
[22]
Originally by: YouGotRipped Edited by: YouGotRipped on 28/04/2009 15:59:31
Originally by: Bad Bobby
Originally by: Kazzac Elentria Doesn't sound shady, just sounds like someones personal life hit em like a freight train.
Give him a week or two and if the built slots are available, finish up the production runs. If the program needs extra slots I'd be more than willing to assist.
This.
Plus I'd be quite happy to pitch in if an extra pair of hands is required.
You can count on me as well. However if you decide to liquidate please drop me a mail, I might be interested in picking up some of your capital component BPOs.
Likewise |

Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles Zzz
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Posted - 2009.04.28 19:38:00 -
[23]
Edited by: Kazuo Ishiguro on 28/04/2009 19:44:29 I'm gratified to see that there are plenty of people prepared to help out. For the sake of clarity, here is what the role currently involves:
1. Purchasing minerals in Jita 2. Arranging shipment of minerals to compression build location 3. Arranging shipment of compressed minerals to low-sec build location 4. Allocation of build jobs and pay to the subcontracted builder(s) 5. Managing carrier sales 6. Issuing dividends through a shell corp held by an alt.
Mineral compression is currently subcontracted to me, at a flat rate per slot-hour, on a discounted bring-your-own-minerals basis. There is currently one subcontracted builder supplying 9 slots, and 34 are required in total to run everything flat-out. All builders are required to join House of Marbles.
On behalf of the shareholders, I would like to invite all those interested in the role to evemail me the lowest flat monthly fee for which they would be willing to assume this role, keeping as many carrier BPOs as possible in production with the available resources. Please also let me know if, for a consideration, you would be able to provide the additional working capital required to build components and ships in parallel. You may subcontract whomever you like in any capacity as long as you take responsibility for their actions.
I'll wait until Monday next week before acting. In the meantime, I'll run an informal shareholder poll, the options being liquidation, waiting another two weeks, or appointing a new manager. --- 20:1 mineral compression ISRC Racing, Season 7 - schedule |

Brock Nelson
Caldari Flux Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2009.04.28 21:53:00 -
[24]
What about contracting out some of the work for capital components?
Blueprint Store |

Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles Zzz
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Posted - 2009.04.28 22:34:00 -
[25]
I suppose it's an option if someone can be found who doesn't mind and charges a reasonable rate, but I doubt the returns would be very good. Also, unless they built in exactly the same location, it would be an enormous pain to move the components, as they take up more space than their constituent minerals. --- 20:1 mineral compression ISRC Racing, Season 7 - schedule |

Bad Bobby
Ugly Toys Zzz
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Posted - 2009.04.29 13:46:00 -
[26]
Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro On behalf of the shareholders, I would like to invite all those interested in the role to evemail me the lowest flat monthly fee for which they would be willing to assume this role, keeping as many carrier BPOs as possible in production with the available resources.
Although I'm more than willing to lend a hand, I do not have the time to take on the management of this IPO as I have more than enough things distracting me from the true path of pew-pew and looting already. If whoever does take it on needs a hand with shipping etc on a more casual pitch-in basis, particularly while they get into the swing of things, then you know where to find me.
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YouGotRipped
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2009.04.29 14:05:00 -
[27]
Originally by: Bad Bobby
Although I'm more than willing to lend a hand, I do not have the time to take on the management of this IPO as I have more than enough things distracting me from the true path of pew-pew and looting already. If whoever does take it on needs a hand with shipping etc on a more casual pitch-in basis, particularly while they get into the swing of things, then you know where to find me.
I can handle some logistics but not to the point of taking a full time job. We should get together on a channel and discuss the matter of dividing the labor between us though. Some measure of redundancy is needed to ensure that even if one of us is unavailable the project can still go ahead.
Black Sun Empire |

Loney
CyberDyne R-D
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Posted - 2009.05.03 01:13:00 -
[28]
Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro I suppose it's an option if someone can be found who doesn't mind and charges a reasonable rate, but I doubt the returns would be very good. Also, unless they built in exactly the same location, it would be an enormous pain to move the components, as they take up more space than their constituent minerals.
I might be willing to sell come built components.. mail me witht he prices you are looking for and I will let you know. ..
Check us out Now!
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles Zzz
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Posted - 2009.05.03 10:17:00 -
[29]
I'm going to revert to posting updates in this thread, since the poll has now served its purpose, and I've requested that it be locked. The results were approximately 1000 to 700 in favour of continuing under the new management. A brief summary:
1. Atima has returned to hand over management of the IPO to friends within -EOH- corp. 2. Production will continue within House of Marbles, and I will continue to hold the BPOs. 3. Logistics will be managed by -EOH-. 4. The share issue corp, Atima Industries, will be held by an -EOH- alt. We're still waiting for Atima to activate the account containing the current CEO so the corp can be handed over. 5. Anticipated dividends are in the region of 8%/month. An April dividend seems unlikely in the light of Atima's prolonged absence last month. 6. The missing 9bn has been found again (I forgot I was looking for compressed minerals) and will be put back to work within the IPO. --- 20:1 mineral compression ISRC Racing, Season 7 - schedule |

Ricdic
Caldari Tleilex Developments Dara Cothrom
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Posted - 2009.05.03 10:47:00 -
[30]
In the other thread some people were giving Atima grief.
Now whilst it was a disappointing end it still could have turned out a lot worse. Consider it making the best out of a bad situation Atima had personal RL issues which always have to take precedence. Would a post have helped? Sure. Would it have changed the outcome and current situation? No. So we should move forward and accept this as a good attempt with a shaky (but clean) end. Atima did return to clean up what he started albeit a little late. Let's focus on the positives (a lowsec operation hasn't failed!! COSMO!!) along with the new ownership under our EBANK director Selene (no, this is going nowhere near EBANK, it's all EOH :)) |

Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.05.03 12:05:00 -
[31]
Originally by: Ricdic In the other thread some people were giving Atima grief.
Now whilst it was a disappointing end it still could have turned out a lot worse. Consider it making the best out of a bad situation Atima had personal RL issues which always have to take precedence. Would a post have helped? Sure. Would it have changed the outcome and current situation? No. So we should move forward and accept this as a good attempt with a shaky (but clean) end. Atima did return to clean up what he started albeit a little late. Let's focus on the positives (a lowsec operation hasn't failed!! COSMO!!) along with the new ownership under our EBANK director Selene (no, this is going nowhere near EBANK, it's all EOH :))
Thats what I was thinking... thats what... 1 out of 15 in the last year two years? |

Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles Zzz
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Posted - 2009.05.03 16:16:00 -
[32]
Heh, it's not as if we're trying to run reactions and have towers to defend. Compared to that type of venture, the level of risk is quite low. I'd like to think of it as PSI done right; it was the first IPO I ever bought into, and my naive trust cost me 1.55bn isk. Looking back at it now, there's no way I'd have invested in it if I had the experience I do now. Things have moved on a bit since then, thank goodness. --- 20:1 mineral compression ISRC Racing, Season 7 - schedule |

alexxr
Gallente Black Marsh X
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Posted - 2009.05.07 22:21:00 -
[33]
so whats the status on this so far?
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles Zzz
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Posted - 2009.05.08 08:37:00 -
[34]
First, the good news. As of last night, Atima has handed everything over, and I now control the share corp. NAV is currently reckoned at a shade over 60bn isk.
EOH Twizzle, whom Atima originally approached to take over the management of the IPO, has backed out. Atima had expected NAV to be somewhat higher, which led to a misunderstanding. Sugar Jugs is the current candidate, and has offered collateral against the share of the IPO to which she'd have access. She claims past experience of running capital production in the same area that the IPO is based in.
With our current capital, we can turn out approximately 28 carriers, or 2 production cycles, per month. This allows a gross profit of approximately 4.1bn isk (6.8%), and a shareholder return of approximately 5%, depending on the arrangement reached with the manager and builder.
Currently, it takes as long to build 1 cycle of components as it does to build the ships; 12 days. Adding in the additional time per cycle for purchasing, compressing and shipping minerals to the build location brings the build cycle time to roughly 15 days. The IPO has sufficient capital to run 2 concurrent cycles.
An additional 8.6 bn isk would allow us to run 3 concurrent build cycles, so at any one time we would have 1 lot of minerals being built into components, 1 lot of components being built into ships, and the remainder at the logistical stage. This would allow almost 3 build cycles to take place per month, taking the gross ROI to 7.2%, and improving shareholder ROI by about 0.5%.
Therefore, we have three options, which I'm putting to a formal, binding vote, ending in 48 hours, using in-game shares:
1. Resume production, with Sugar Jugs as manager, at roughly 5% dividends. No expansion. 2. Expand by 8.6bn isk, with Sugar Jugs as manager, at roughly 5.5% dividends. 3. Liquidate.
--- 20:1 mineral compression ISRC Racing, Season 7 - schedule |

Sen Gyounen
Eve University
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Posted - 2009.05.08 13:42:00 -
[35]
Well, I didn't really want to expand the first time, so I'm voting for option #1 (with my lowly 40 shares). Sen Gyounen "For all your days, prepare, and meet them ever alike; When you are the anvil, bear - when the hammer, strike." |

LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
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Posted - 2009.05.08 14:42:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro I'd like to think of it as PSI done right; it was the first IPO I ever bought into
Oi!
CAP4U launched before PSI. It did solely carriers.
Then the carrier dev-blog launched and BPOs were liquidated and kept going for 1-2 months extra, and nobody lost ISK.
Just to point out that it IS possible to run a low-sec operation and get out of it alive 
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles Zzz
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Posted - 2009.05.08 15:53:00 -
[37]
After a bit more research, NAV has been revised to just under 61bn isk.
Pending a further response from Atima, it is possible that another 4bn could be recovered in the form of 2 Fenrir BPOs. I conjecture that when the extra component BPOs were bought, Atima was supposed to sell the Fenrir BPOs but never got around to doing so, instead purchasing the component BPOs using personal isk and later reclaiming this sum from the IPO. --- 20:1 mineral compression ISRC Racing, Season 7 - schedule |

SonOfAGhost
Minmatar Minmatar Munitions and Tactical Assets Repository Zzz
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Posted - 2009.05.08 16:19:00 -
[38]
I've known Sugar Jugs' main (and assorted alts) for almost 3 years now since we were both in RMS. I'll vouch for both his integrity and related experience. Additionally he has a vested interest in this venture succeeding even if he weren't an active particpant in it. I think MMTAR is the largest shareholder in this corp, and another of his alts is, in turn, one of the largest shareholders in MMTAR (though not a corp member)
I will however abstain from voting for or against further expansion. -----
Originally by: kedoremos EVE's economy is **** for CPAs, Annuities, and Stock Brokers.
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Amaandia
Third Return Inc. Final Retribution Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.08 21:24:00 -
[39]
Option 1
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles Zzz
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Posted - 2009.05.09 13:33:00 -
[40]
A reminder to all shareholders that the vote closes on Sunday by 0800 eve time.
Interesting fact I've learned since gaining access to the shareholder list: the Gini coefficient for this ipo is roughly 0.65. --- 20:1 mineral compression ISRC Racing, Season 7 - schedule |

Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles Zzz
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Posted - 2009.05.10 10:11:00 -
[41]
With a turnout of at least 80%, the results are as follows:
Option 1: 54.7% Option 2: 4.1% Option 3: 41.2%
I will be in touch with Sugar Jugs to sort out the necessary details. --- 20:1 mineral compression ISRC Racing, Season 7 - schedule |

Sugar Jugs
Juggalicious
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Posted - 2009.05.10 17:10:00 -
[42]
Confirming acceptance of managerial position.
Will get some time tomorrow to look over the complete assets (alreay have the BPO list and just received the mineral list) and put a build plan together.
I will pass collateral to Kazuo as soon as we are online at the same time again, hopefully sometime tomorrow.
Regards, Sugar
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles Zzz
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Posted - 2009.05.10 20:15:00 -
[43]
This is getting a bit silly - we've both been online for hours but you appear to be AFK. Posting here in the hope of getting your attention. --- 20:1 mineral compression ISRC Racing, Season 7 - schedule |

Sugar Jugs
Juggalicious
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Posted - 2009.05.11 00:44:00 -
[44]
I am the master of AFK. :p Also, I'm Australian TZ so 1am - 7am = sleep time (15:30-21:30 eve time).
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles Zzz
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Posted - 2009.05.11 09:39:00 -
[45]
We have enough spare capital to swap out the offending BPOs one or two at a time, so that probably won't be too much of an issue. --- 20:1 mineral compression ISRC Racing, Season 7 - schedule |

MyHonIa
Ghetto Tech
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Posted - 2009.05.11 15:49:00 -
[46]
as i am not currently comfortable with the new management and seeing as i need some cash liquidated i am putting my 100 shares up for sale, let me know if anyone wants them.
According to this thread the NAV is 61bn ISK, hence shares should be worth 15.25m isk a unit. I'd be willing to part with mine for 14m isk a unit
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Prisoner 42
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Posted - 2009.05.11 16:00:00 -
[47]
I would like to reseve 5 of them for 70.mil
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles Zzz
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Posted - 2009.05.11 16:14:00 -
[48]
There are currently 6000 shares in circulation: 2000 originally, plus 4000 from the expansion. A more accurate value would be 10.2m/share. --- 20:1 mineral compression ISRC Racing, Season 7 - schedule |

Prisoner 42
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Posted - 2009.05.11 16:21:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro There are currently 6000 shares in circulation: 2000 originally, plus 4000 from the expansion. A more accurate value would be 10.2m/share.
Thanx Kazuo, reserve 5 for 51 mil. If available still.
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Kouryusei
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Posted - 2009.05.11 16:45:00 -
[50]
Originally by: MyHonIa as i am not currently comfortable with the new management and seeing as i need some cash liquidated i am putting my 100 shares up for sale, let me know if anyone wants them.
According to this thread the NAV is 61bn ISK, hence shares should be worth 15.25m isk a unit. I'd be willing to part with mine for 14m isk a unit
I'll reserve a single share at Kazuo's estimated price of 10.2M.
I'm new to the game but not to this field of investment (I do it outside of the game), if only I could afford more. :)
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MyHonIa
Ghetto Tech
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Posted - 2009.05.11 20:35:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro There are currently 6000 shares in circulation: 2000 originally, plus 4000 from the expansion. A more accurate value would be 10.2m/share.
i would like to see where these extra 2000 shares are located then, seeing as atima industries information page shows only 4000
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles Zzz
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Posted - 2009.05.11 21:07:00 -
[52]
The two tranches of shares were issued several weeks apart, in separate threads. I suspect you're referring to the one in which the 4000 shares for the expansion were issued.
--- 20:1 mineral compression ISRC Racing, Season 7 - schedule |

MyHonIa
Ghetto Tech
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Posted - 2009.05.11 21:37:00 -
[53]
ingame, show info, Atima Industries, 4000 shares. I am not talking about forum threads
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles Zzz
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Posted - 2009.05.11 22:31:00 -
[54]
I see that number as well, in the same place, but the shareholder page and the API disagree, both listing a total of 6000 shares. All corps have 1000 shares to start with iirc and the votes screen lists 2 votes, creating a further 5000 shares between them. Conclusion: the number you've seen is the result of a bug, one of many that plague the corp UI. --- 20:1 mineral compression ISRC Racing, Season 7 - schedule |

MyHonIa
Ghetto Tech
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Posted - 2009.05.11 22:43:00 -
[55]
thank you for clearing that up, revised price is 10.2m a share
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Marcus Baltar
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Posted - 2009.05.11 23:18:00 -
[56]
Originally by: MyHonIa Edited by: MyHonIa on 11/05/2009 22:44:42 Edited by: MyHonIa on 11/05/2009 20:46:25 as i am not currently comfortable with the new management and seeing as i need some cash liquidated i am putting my 100 shares up for sale, let me know if anyone wants them.
According to this thread the NAV is 61bn ISK, hence shares should be worth 10.17m isk a unit. I'd be willing to part with mine for 10.2m isk a unit
Reserved: Prisoner 42 - 5 Kouryusei - 1
I would also like to reserve 5 of these shares at 10,200,000 ISK each (51,000,000 ISK total) please. --
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SupaMegaFugly
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Posted - 2009.05.12 02:00:00 -
[57]
Edited by: SupaMegaFugly on 12/05/2009 02:00:43
Originally by: MyHonIa
as i am not currently comfortable with the new management and seeing as i need some cash liquidated i am putting my 100 shares up for sale, let me know if anyone wants them.
According to this thread the NAV is 61bn ISK, hence shares should be worth 10.17m isk a unit. I'd be willing to part with mine for 10.2m isk a unit
Reserved: Prisoner 42 - 5 Kouryusei - 1
I will take 20 shares @ 10.2Mil - 204Mil.
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RJ Nobel
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Posted - 2009.05.12 02:20:00 -
[58]
Originally by: MyHonIa Edited by: MyHonIa on 11/05/2009 22:44:42 Edited by: MyHonIa on 11/05/2009 20:46:25 as i am not currently comfortable with the new management and seeing as i need some cash liquidated i am putting my 100 shares up for sale, let me know if anyone wants them.
According to this thread the NAV is 61bn ISK, hence shares should be worth 10.17m isk a unit. I'd be willing to part with mine for 10.2m isk a unit
Reserved: Prisoner 42 - 5 Kouryusei - 1
I'll take the remaining 69 shares. 
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MyHonIa
Ghetto Tech
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Posted - 2009.05.12 04:38:00 -
[59]
Edited by: MyHonIa on 12/05/2009 04:40:41 seems all the shares are now gone, final tally is: Prisoner 42 - 5 at 51m Kouryusei - 1 at 10.2m Marcus Baltar - 5 at 51m SupaMegaFugly - 20 at 204m RJ Nobel - 69 at 703.8m
forward the money to me please stating the number of shares in the reasons and i will transfer the shares to you
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KISOGOKU
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Posted - 2009.05.12 05:02:00 -
[60]
It is known thing ,corp info shows ''Last created '' shares but not total
Originally by: MyHonIa
i would like to see where these extra 2000 shares are located then, seeing as atima industries information page shows only 4000
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SupaMegaFugly
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Posted - 2009.05.12 09:29:00 -
[61]
Originally by: MyHonIa Edited by: MyHonIa on 12/05/2009 04:40:41 seems all the shares are now gone, final tally is: Prisoner 42 - 5 at 51m Kouryusei - 1 at 10.2m Marcus Baltar - 5 at 51m SupaMegaFugly - 20 at 204m RJ Nobel - 69 at 703.8m
forward the money to me please stating the number of shares in the reasons and i will transfer the shares to you
ISK sent
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Marcus Baltar
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Posted - 2009.05.12 10:02:00 -
[62]
Originally by: MyHonIa Edited by: MyHonIa on 12/05/2009 04:40:41 seems all the shares are now gone, final tally is: Prisoner 42 - 5 at 51m Kouryusei - 1 at 10.2m Marcus Baltar - 5 at 51m SupaMegaFugly - 20 at 204m RJ Nobel - 69 at 703.8m
forward the money to me please stating the number of shares in the reasons and i will transfer the shares to you
51,000,000 ISK sent 2009.05.12 09:47 to MyHonIa ( [r]= For 5 Atima Industries shares -see forum ) for 5 Atima Industries shares at 10,200,000 ISK each.
Info: MyHonIa paid for 100 shares in the launch here. --
DesuSigs |

Kouryusei
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Posted - 2009.05.12 10:16:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Marcus Baltar
Originally by: MyHonIa Edited by: MyHonIa on 12/05/2009 04:40:41 seems all the shares are now gone, final tally is: Prisoner 42 - 5 at 51m Kouryusei - 1 at 10.2m Marcus Baltar - 5 at 51m SupaMegaFugly - 20 at 204m RJ Nobel - 69 at 703.8m
forward the money to me please stating the number of shares in the reasons and i will transfer the shares to you
51,000,000 ISK sent 2009.05.12 09:47 to MyHonIa ( [r]= For 5 Atima Industries shares -see forum ) for 5 Atima Industries shares at 10,200,000 ISK each.
Info: MyHonIa paid for 100 shares in the launch here.
I'll send the ISK once I get home. :)
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Prisoner 42
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Posted - 2009.05.12 13:47:00 -
[64]
I will also send isk tonight. Thanx
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RJ Nobel
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Posted - 2009.05.12 16:46:00 -
[65]
Edited by: RJ Nobel on 12/05/2009 16:51:06
Originally by: MyHonIa Edited by: MyHonIa on 12/05/2009 04:40:41 seems all the shares are now gone, final tally is: Prisoner 42 - 5 at 51m Kouryusei - 1 at 10.2m Marcus Baltar - 5 at 51m SupaMegaFugly - 20 at 204m RJ Nobel - 69 at 703.8m
forward the money to me please stating the number of shares in the reasons and i will transfer the shares to you
703,800,000.00 ISK sent
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MyHonIa
Ghetto Tech
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Posted - 2009.05.12 19:05:00 -
[66]
shares transferred to
Marcus Baltar RJ Nobel SupaMegaFly
still waiting on isk from last two
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Kouryusei
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.05.12 19:18:00 -
[67]
Originally by: MyHonIa shares transferred to
Marcus Baltar RJ Nobel SupaMegaFly
still waiting on isk from last two
Sent! :) -----
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Prisoner 42
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Posted - 2009.05.12 22:52:00 -
[68]
Isk Sent
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Marcus Baltar
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Posted - 2009.05.13 17:53:00 -
[69]
Originally by: MyHonIa Edited by: MyHonIa on 12/05/2009 23:22:30 shares transferred to
Marcus Baltar RJ Nobel SupaMegaFly Kouryusei Prisoner 42
all shares now transferred, good luck
Cofirming receipt of 5 Atima Industries shares at a cost of 51,000,000 ISK (10,200,000 ISK per share);
Atima Industries (In-game Info details) Head Quarters: Liekuri VII - Moon 1 - Caldari Funds Unlimited Investment Bank CEO: Ruth Gregory Funder: Atima Holdings Ticker: ATIMA Shares: 4000 (remember the broken reporting) Members: 3 Tax: 0.0% Founded: 2008.12.18
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SupaMegaFugly
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Posted - 2009.05.14 01:28:00 -
[70]
Originally by: MyHonIa Edited by: MyHonIa on 12/05/2009 23:22:30 all shares now transferred, good luck
Shares received :)
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles Zzz
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Posted - 2009.05.19 15:46:00 -
[71]
Quite a bit has happened since the most recent vote.
First, I have received 10000 shares of MMTAR plus a further 2bn isk as collateral from Sugar Jugs. This is being kept apart from all the IPO assets.
Sugar Jugs has provided 2 alts - one has taken over as CEO of Atima Industries, and will be used to pay out dividends, and the other is providing build slots within House of Marbles. Production is being shared with Atima, whose services have been retained in a reduced capacity, and our other pre-existing builder.
We've sold 11 carriers in recent days, and are building more as fast as we are able. --- 20:1 mineral compression ISRC Racing, Season 7 - schedule |

Odessayeti
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2009.05.19 16:13:00 -
[72]
I'd like to reserve 10shares
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Drash Dahar
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Posted - 2009.05.21 18:00:00 -
[73]
Looking to purchase shares
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Jonny Suede
Advanced BPO Research Division
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Posted - 2009.05.24 23:27:00 -
[74]
I have 50 shares I would consider selling if someone wished to purchase them all at the going price.
Send me a mail ingame.
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Mr Minmatar
Minmatar Minmatar Munitions and Tactical Assets Repository Zzz
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Posted - 2009.05.25 10:00:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro I have received 10000 shares of MMTAR
Kazuo already knows this but I thought I'd let the other Atima shareholders know as well. MMTAR shares are fully backed by corp assets for their issue price of 1 million isk each. I won't speculate on the potential trade value as there is no plan at present to list MMTAR. However, the standing buy-back offer puts this portion of Sugar Jugs' collateral at 10 billion isk.
Originally by: Fabricati Diem Raising the issue in this forum is akin to a gazelle appealing to lions about the predatory tactics of leopards.
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Javelin6
Minmatar Dirt Nap Squad
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Posted - 2009.06.03 19:11:00 -
[76]
WTS 100 Shares @ current estimated value of 10.2 MIL per.
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Vasta Magna
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Posted - 2009.06.03 21:45:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Javelin6 WTS 100 Shares @ current estimated value of 10.2 MIL per.
I'd like 10 shares please @ 10.2m |

Javelin6
Minmatar Dirt Nap Squad
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Posted - 2009.06.03 21:50:00 -
[78]
Edited by: Javelin6 on 03/06/2009 21:52:01
Originally by: Vasta Magna
Originally by: Javelin6 WTS 100 Shares @ current estimated value of 10.2 MIL per.
I'd like 10 shares please @ 10.2m
Isk received and shares sent. 10 shares @ 10.2mil Total : 102,000,000 ISK
90 Shares still available.
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Vasta Magna
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Posted - 2009.06.03 21:54:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Javelin6
Isk received and shares sent. 10 shares @ 10.2mil Total : 102,000,000 ISK
90 Shares still available.
Confirming receipt 10 shares. |

Marcus Baltar
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Posted - 2009.06.03 22:40:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Javelin6 Edited by: Javelin6 on 03/06/2009 21:52:01
Originally by: Vasta Magna
Originally by: Javelin6 WTS 100 Shares @ current estimated value of 10.2 MIL per.
I'd like 10 shares please @ 10.2m
Isk received and shares sent. 10 shares @ 10.2mil Total : 102,000,000 ISK
90 Shares still available.
51,000,000 ISK sent 2009.06.03 22:33 to Javelin6 ( [r]= 5 Atima Industries shares-forum 1010851) for 5 Atima Industries shares at 10,200,000 ISK each. -- --- --
DesuSigs |

Javelin6
Minmatar Dirt Nap Squad
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Posted - 2009.06.03 23:42:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Marcus Baltar
Originally by: Javelin6 Edited by: Javelin6 on 03/06/2009 21:52:01
Originally by: Vasta Magna
Originally by: Javelin6 WTS 100 Shares @ current estimated value of 10.2 MIL per.
I'd like 10 shares please @ 10.2m
Isk received and shares sent. 10 shares @ 10.2mil Total : 102,000,000 ISK
90 Shares still available.
51,000,000 ISK sent 2009.06.03 22:33 to Javelin6 ( [r]= 5 Atima Industries shares-forum 1010851) for 5 Atima Industries shares at 10,200,000 ISK each.
Marcus Baltar: ISK received. 5 Shares sent.
Admiral Tom: ISK received. 5 Shares sent.
80 Shares still available. Please send evemail or make post BEFORE you send ISK. Scares me when random people send money 
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Marcus Baltar
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Posted - 2009.06.04 11:01:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Javelin6
Originally by: Marcus Baltar 51,000,000 ISK sent 2009.06.03 22:33 to Javelin6 ( [r]= 5 Atima Industries shares-forum 1010851) for 5 Atima Industries shares at 10,200,000 ISK each.
Marcus Baltar: ISK received. 5 Shares sent.
Admiral Tom: ISK received. 5 Shares sent.
80 Shares still available. Please send evemail or make post BEFORE you send ISK. Scares me when random people send money 
Confirming 5 shares received. Thanks.
Together wither 5 shares received here, I now hold 10 shares. 
Sorry about the surprise. Could someone please surprise me by sending wads of money rather than the usual of blowing me up. Thanks.  -- --- --
DesuSigs |

Javelin6
Minmatar Dirt Nap Squad
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Posted - 2009.06.05 10:36:00 -
[83]
Still have 30 shares I'd like to sell. Contact me ingame or here. |

Saehta
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Posted - 2009.06.05 12:44:00 -
[84]
I'll take 20 shares for 204m
ISK will be sent around 22:00 GMT
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Javelin6
Minmatar Dirt Nap Squad
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Posted - 2009.06.05 22:13:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Saehta I'll take 20 shares for 204m
ISK will be sent around 22:00 GMT
ISK received and shares sent.
10 still available
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Javelin6
Minmatar Dirt Nap Squad
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Posted - 2009.06.07 13:01:00 -
[86]
Still Looking to sell last 10 shares @ 10.2MIL ISK.
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Loth Cephak
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Posted - 2009.06.08 05:02:00 -
[87]
I'll take 10 shares at 102m.
ISK sent at 05:00 EVE time.
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Javelin6
Minmatar Dirt Nap Squad
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Posted - 2009.06.08 08:55:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Loth Cephak I'll take 10 shares at 102m.
ISK sent at 05:00 EVE time.
ISK received. Shares sent.
All shares have been sold. |

Shavana
Made in Canada
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Posted - 2009.07.02 17:03:00 -
[89]
30 Shares for sell estimated at 10.5m each Contact in game or on forums.
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Shavana
Made in Canada
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Posted - 2009.07.03 14:00:00 -
[90]
30 Shares still available, 10.2m each share!
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