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DarthNefarius Minmatar Heavy Industries 165	Posted - 2012.04.26 17:14:00 - [1] - Quote CCP Paradox wrote: You probably wouldn't be making this thread if you had read the dev blogs and Fanfest presentations from Super Friends. Just sayin' Strange I HAVE READ THE DEV BLOGS watched Fanfest and listened to CCP Soundwave's Ten Ton Hammer interview. The only thing they say will happen to pilots that individually drop outa corp & go to a NPC or Wardecked Corp is they'll get a "stain" on thier record. Be leive me THESE GREIFERS WEAR SHITE STAINS WITH PRIDE Please CCP Paradox enlighten me how the corp hoppers ( not the alliance hopping corps ) that the OP describes will be actually affected you should look at employment history o Psycholic Monk the last month for an example ofdaily corp hops. To the whiners : CCP Soundwave "Incursions are not a big issue in terms of isk globally"
DarthNefarius Minmatar Heavy Industries 165	Posted - 2012.04.26 17:20:00 - [2] - Quote Morganta wrote: Kieron VonDeux wrote: Pohbis wrote: CCP Paradox wrote: You probably wouldn't be making this thread if you had read the dev blogs and Fanfest presentations from Super Friends. Just sayin' He probably wouldn't - but at least link the blogs Thirty seconds effort... Blog For the lazy... Quote: Q: What about corp-hopping? A: We're adding tracking in the backend to track this. How we will then display it in game is undecided, but we do have stories in the backlog (todo list) for the character war history to show if the character left a corp at war. We also want to have it cost a little to corp-hop during a war. We're also looking into not allowing you to join a corp you've left during a war while that war is still ongoing. We're also exploring some limitations to joining and leaving a corp on the fly. sounds like foot-dragging "we'll study the issue and make a decision at a later date" Not only did CCP Paradox's post lack content it fails the litmus test after I see that blog. FOOT-DRAGGING is a mild way to put it on the back burner and hope no one see's the elephant in the room To the whiners : CCP Soundwave "Incursions are not a big issue in terms of isk globally"
DarthNefarius Minmatar Heavy Industries 165	Posted - 2012.04.26 20:56:00 - [3] - Quote Alexa Coates wrote: CCP Paradox wrote: You probably wouldn't be making this thread if you had read the dev blogs and Fanfest presentations from Super Friends. Just sayin' daaaaaaamn op, must hurt to get burned by dev's. Who really got burned?!?! lol looks like the DEV's pithy comment got hammered so he back pedaled: CCP Paradox wrote: I actually didn't want to steer this topic to a discussion on a specific solution. It is far more valuable to us (Team Super Friends) to see your own opinions on this. I won't yet tell you what we currently are doing on it, but will tell you that we are (and have) already done something about it internally. So please, keep posting away with experiences. This will help assure us that we are either going in the right direction with our solutions or not. " I won't yet tell you what we currently are doing on it" sorta like what a DEV team did to the Incursion Assaults because they ended up putting 1 thing on SiSi & did another & now got an OTA stacked mess reminesicent of the anom nerf? Stay silent & no one can blame you later OK rant off here's what happens if you allow corp hopping unabaited Here is an example of how the Current Wardeck system is broken & I hope see fixes in the next one.. Daily Corp hopping: Psychotic Monk Security Status -1.9 The Skunkworks [SKNK.] Member for 0 days BIO Employment History Latest Forum Posts CURRENT CORPORATION The Skunkworks [SKNK.] from 2012.04.16 00:11 to this day PREVIOUS CORPORATION(S) Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2012.04.16 00:03 to 2012.04.16 00:11. Glory In Death [GIND-] from 2012.04.15 20:57 to 2012.04.16 00:03. The Skunkworks [SKNK.] from 2012.04.15 01:32 to 2012.04.15 20:57. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2012.04.14 07:14 to 2012.04.15 01:32. In Accordance with the Prophecy [-AWP-] from 2012.04.13 06:46 to 2012.04.14 07:14. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2012.04.13 05:53 to 2012.04.13 06:46. The Skunkworks [SKNK.] from 2012.04.12 02:49 to 2012.04.13 05:53. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2012.04.12 01:37 to 2012.04.12 02:49. The Skunkworks [SKNK.] from 2012.04.10 23:22 to 2012.04.12 01:37. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2012.04.10 16:33 to 2012.04.10 23:22. The Skunkworks [SKNK.] from 2012.04.09 21:19 to 2012.04.10 16:33. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2012.04.09 19:21 to 2012.04.09 21:19. The Skunkworks [SKNK.] from 2012.04.08 23:34 to 2012.04.09 19:21. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2012.04.07 21:21 to 2012.04.08 23:34. Eagle Enterprises (Closed) from 2012.04.07 19:50 to 2012.04.07 21:21. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2012.04.07 08:32 to 2012.04.07 19:50. EVE Portal INC [EVE-P] from 2012.04.07 06:01 to 2012.04.07 08:32. The Skunkworks [SKNK.] from 2012.04.04 23:41 to 2012.04.07 06:01. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2012.04.04 10:21 to 2012.04.04 23:41. Compu-Global-Hyper-Mega-Tech [CGHMT] from 2012.04.03 06:16 to 2012.04.04 10:21. The Skunkworks [SKNK.] from 2012.04.01 00:06 to 2012.04.03 06:16. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2012.03.31 22:34 to 2012.04.01 00:06. Sherrein Industries [SRNID] from 2012.03.31 16:37 to 2012.03.31 22:34. The Skunkworks [SKNK.] from 2012.03.05 00:38 to 2012.03.31 16:37. The Hebrew In Me [J3WS] from 2012.02.16 04:19 to 2012.03.05 00:38. The Skunkworks [SKNK.] from 2012.02.15 06:12 to 2012.02.16 04:19. The Hebrew In Me [J3WS] from 2012.02.14 03:10 to 2012.02.15 06:12. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2012.02.12 05:18 to 2012.02.14 03:10. The Skunkworks [SKNK.] from 2012.02.10 22:40 to 2012.02.12 05:18. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2012.02.08 01:00 to 2012.02.10 22:40. The Skunkworks [SKNK.] from 2012.02.07 04:58 to 2012.02.08 01:00. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2012.02.06 06:26 to 2012.02.07 04:58. Estel Arador Corp Services [EACS] from 2012.02.06 06:09 to 2012.02.06 06:26. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2012.02.05 06:58 to 2012.02.06 06:09. The Skunkworks [SKNK.] from 2012.02.05 00:47 to 2012.02.05 06:58. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2012.02.04 05:55 to 2012.02.05 00:47. Red Tsunami [IBPH] from 2012.02.04 05:11 to 2012.02.04 05:55. The Skunkworks [SKNK.] from 2012.02.04 04:29 to 2012.02.04 05:11. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2012.02.04 01:59 to 2012.02.04 04:29. The Skunkworks [SKNK.] from 2012.02.03 05:44 to 2012.02.04 01:59. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2012.02.01 09:24 to 2012.02.03 05:44. Athesarian [ATHES] from 2012.02.01 08:10 to 2012.02.01 09:24. Cresent Hawk's Order of The Angels [CHO.] from 2012.02.01 05:57 to 2012.02.01 08:10. The Hebrew In Me [J3WS] from 2012.01.31 03:34 to 2012.02.01 05:57. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2012.01.30 07:22 to 2012.01.31 03:34. Datadyne Dark Division [-DDD-] from 2012.01.30 07:13 to 2012.01.30 07:22. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2012.01.30 04:39 to 2012.01.30 07:13. Gallente Trade Union [GLTU] from 2012.01.30 02:55 to 2012.01.30 04:39. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2012.01.30 00:19 to 2012.01.30 02:55. Reverse Safari Venture Industries [RSVI.] from 2012.01.29 01:58 to 2012.01.30 00:19. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2012.01.29 01:22 to 2012.01.29 01:58. The Skunkworks [SKNK.] from 2012.01.26 04:56 to 2012.01.29 01:22. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2012.01.26 00:49 to 2012.01.26 04:56. The Skunkworks [SKNK.] from 2012.01.24 01:52 to 2012.01.26 00:49. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2012.01.23 05:07 to 2012.01.24 01:52. ELUSIVE JOKERS [-EJ-] from 2012.01.23 04:41 to 2012.01.23 05:07. To the whiners : CCP Soundwave "Incursions are not a big issue in terms of isk globally"
DarthNefarius Minmatar Heavy Industries 165	Posted - 2012.04.26 20:59:00 - [4] - Quote ELUSIVE JOKERS [-EJ-] from 2012.01.23 04:41 to 2012.01.23 05:07. New Guardian Protection Inc. [NGPI] from 2012.01.22 04:35 to 2012.01.23 04:41. The Skunkworks [SKNK.] from 2012.01.21 21:53 to 2012.01.22 04:35. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2012.01.20 18:41 to 2012.01.21 21:53. The Skunkworks [SKNK.] from 2012.01.20 03:56 to 2012.01.20 18:41. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2012.01.20 02:54 to 2012.01.20 03:56. Zervas Aeronautics [ZERVA] from 2012.01.19 18:45 to 2012.01.20 02:54. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2012.01.18 23:34 to 2012.01.19 18:45. Zervas Aeronautics [ZERVA] from 2012.01.18 20:04 to 2012.01.18 23:34. The Skunkworks [SKNK.] from 2012.01.18 19:22 to 2012.01.18 20:04. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2012.01.17 22:45 to 2012.01.18 19:22. Zervas Aeronautics [ZERVA] from 2012.01.17 01:43 to 2012.01.17 22:45. The Skunkworks [SKNK.] from 2012.01.14 22:43 to 2012.01.17 01:43. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2012.01.14 18:56 to 2012.01.14 22:43. The Skunkworks [SKNK.] from 2012.01.07 02:47 to 2012.01.14 18:56. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2012.01.07 01:53 to 2012.01.07 02:47. The Skunkworks [SKNK.] from 2012.01.06 05:27 to 2012.01.07 01:53. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2012.01.05 23:51 to 2012.01.06 05:27. The Skunkworks [SKNK.] from 2012.01.03 01:52 to 2012.01.05 23:51. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2012. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2012.01.02 07:20 to 2012.01.03 01:52. The Skunkworks [SKNK.] from 2012.01.02 06:47 to 2012.01.02 07:20. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2012.01.02 06:13 to 2012.01.02 06:47. The Skunkworks [SKNK.] from 2011.12.31 04:04 to 2012.01.02 06:13. Arctic Experiments [ARCEX] from 2011.12.30 02:23 to 2011.12.31 04:04. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2011.12.29 21:31 to 2011.12.30 02:23. The Skunkworks [SKNK.] from 2011.12.27 00:23 to 2011.12.29 21:31. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2011.12.26 23:26 to 2011.12.27 00:23. The Skunkworks [SKNK.] from 2011.12.20 01:34 to 2011.12.26 23:26. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2011.12.20 00:44 to 2011.12.20 01:34. The Skunkworks [SKNK.] from 2011.12.18 22:01 to 2011.12.20 00:44. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2011.12.18 01:05 to 2011.12.18 22:01. The Skunkworks [SKNK.] from 2011.12.18 00:37 to 2011.12.18 01:05. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2011.12.17 23:49 to 2011.12.18 00:37. The Skunkworks [SKNK.] from 2011.12.17 23:43 to 2011.12.17 23:49. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2011.12.16 02:05 to 2011.12.17 23:43. The Skunkworks [SKNK.] from 2011.12.08 22:54 to 2011.12.16 02:05. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2011.12.08 06:31 to 2011.12.08 22:54. HOUSE SCORPINTHEUS [FREMN] from 2011.12.08 00:23 to 2011.12.08 06:31. The Skunkworks [SKNK.] from 2011.12.01 03:10 to 2011.12.08 00:23. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2011.12.01 02:45 to 2011.12.01 03:10. The Skunkworks [SKNK.] from 2011.11.25 03:05 to 2011.12.01 02:45. Love Me Dead (Closed) from 2011.11.24 01:47 to 2011.11.25 03:05. The Skunkworks [SKNK.] from 2011.11.17 22:26 to 2011.11.24 01:47. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2011.11.16 02:22 to 2011.11.17 22:26. The Skunkworks [SKNK.] from 2011.11.14 05:05 to 2011.11.16 02:22. Martin Fury [-SKNK] from 2011.11.14 04:18 to 2011.11.14 05:05. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2011.11.14 01:41 to 2011.11.14 04:18. The Skunkworks [SKNK.] from 2011.11.11 08:31 to 2011.11.14 01:41. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2011.11.11 08:04 to 2011.11.11 08:31. The Skunkworks [SKNK.] from 2011.11.11 03:13 to 2011.11.11 08:04. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2011.11.11 02:47 to 2011.11.11 03:13. The Skunkworks [SKNK.] from 2011.11.11 00:43 to 2011.11.11 02:47. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2011.11.10 07:37 to 2011.11.11 00:43. Worlds Without Boundaries [77TH] from 2011.11.10 06:12 to 2011.11.10 07:37. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2011.11.08 07:33 to 2011.11.10 06:12. Meteor Industries [METIN] from 2011.11.08 06:52 to 2011.11.08 07:33. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2011.11.06 08:18 to 2011.11.08 06:52. Putz. [PUTZ.] from 2011.11.06 07:14 to 2011.11.06 08:18. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2011.11.05 07:19 to 2011.11.06 07:14. Martin Fury [-SKNK] from 2011.11.05 04:08 to 2011.11.05 07:19. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2011.11.03 15:48 to 2011.11.05 04:08. The Skunkworks [SKNK.] from 2011.11.01 21:06 to 2011.11.03 15:48. Go Petition Blizzard [SKNK3] from 2011.11.01 03:58 to 2011.11.01 21:06. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2011.10.31 03:10 to 2011.11.01 03:58. Go Petition Blizzard [SKNK3] from 2011.10.29 22:12 to 2011.10.31 03:10. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2011.10.28 00:50 to 2011.10.29 22:12. The Skunkworks [SKNK.] from 2011.10.24 03:08 to 2011.10.28 00:50. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2011.10.24 02:44 to 2011.10.24 03:08. The Skunkworks [SKNK.] from 2011.10.23 00:46 to 2011.10.24 02:44. Clearly Compensating [LITLD] from 2011.10.19 03:26 to 2011.10.23 00:46. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2011.10.19 03:25 to 2011.10.19 03:26. The Skunkworks [SKNK.] from 2011.10.18 01:57 to 2011.10.19 03:25. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2011.10.18 00:01 to 2011.10.18 01:57. The Skunkworks [SKNK.] from 2011.10.17 05:22 to 2011.10.18 00:01. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2011.10.17 04:31 to 2011.10.17 05:22. The Skunkworks [SKNK.] from 2011.10.17 04:25 to 2011.10.17 04:31. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2011.10.17 03:09 to 2011.10.17 04:25. The Skunkworks [SKNK.] from 2011.10.13 20:53 to 2011.10.17 03:09. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2011.10.13 20:36 to 2011.10.13 20:53. The Skunkworks [SKNK.] from 2011.10.13 05:25 to 2011.10.13 20:36. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2011.10.13 03:50 to 2011.10.13 05:25. The Skunkworks [SKNK.] from 2011.10.13 03:22 to 2011.10.13 03:50. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2011.10.12 23:44 to 2011.10.13 03:22. The Skunkworks [SKNK.] from 2011.10.12 04:24 to 2011.10.12 23:44. Sebiestor Tribe [S] from 2011.10.12 03:05 to 2011.10.12 04:24. and keeps on going... To the whiners : CCP Soundwave "Incursions are not a big issue in terms of isk globally"
DarthNefarius Minmatar Heavy Industries 165	Posted - 2012.04.27 03:09:00 - [5] - Quote Simi Kusoni wrote: MadMuppet wrote: Anything that turns corps in to prisons is not going to fly. The question would be what percentage of vested players would accept the NPC corp taxes or quit because they could be engaged with no viable option to defend themselves? Turning players into unwilling slaves is not a game. If you were to run from a fight and get cornered in a station with no option but die or log off, how long would you put up with that before you would take your time and money elsewhere? While Eve is considered a sandbox, nobody is going to play in it if they keep getting buried up to their waist and all the other players keep coming by to tickle their feet. Well if you don't want to risk PvP in high sec then we should just continue allowing corp hopping to avoid conflict, and nerf everything profitable in high sec into the ground to compensate. . TBH I see more problems with people corp hopping in & out seeking to find easy KM's then hopping out once they get targeted back. So its sort of like hitting someone when noone's looking in the back of the head then running to a cop & sticking out thier tongues saying naaa naaa when the person tries to smack them back. Maybe a deposit system is needed for people that join a wardecked corp & if they leave before the wardeck is over the ISK goes to the other corp? To the whiners : CCP Soundwave "Incursions are not a big issue in terms of isk globally"
DarthNefarius Minmatar Heavy Industries 171	Posted - 2012.05.02 18:07:00 - [6] - Quote Klotzak wrote: I think this solution couldw work. At the moment a corp gets deced, all members get flagged for war and remain flagged until the war ends. The flag carries over with the player despite corp change. Problem solved. So in your solution a play that joins an NPC corp could still be wardecked & it goes only one way. They can be hit but can not hit back. Nice F U too Unintentional bug Working as IntendedGäó
DarthNefarius Minmatar Heavy Industries 171	Posted - 2012.05.02 18:50:00 - [7] - Quote Klotzak wrote: I think this solution couldw work. At the moment a corp gets deced, all members get flagged for war and remain flagged until the war ends. The flag carries over with the player despite corp change. Problem solved. Require the corp members of a dec'ing corp to remain in that corp for one year; only way out is biomass. See, I can do stupid suggestions, too. Unintentional bug Working as IntendedGäó
DarthNefarius Minmatar Heavy Industries 171	Posted - 2012.05.02 22:32:00 - [8] - Quote Notta Monsta wrote: After the wardec "fix" later this month when a dec comes along I will take down my POS and drop out to an NPC corp and continue to do my thing (minus the use of the POS now) till the dec goes away. The only way a wardec will hurt me after the "fix" is that I will lose the use of my POS, which actually would kinda suck as it does help generate a fair bit of ISK. . \o/ all HI SEC POS's will be safe Unintentional bug Working as IntendedGäó

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