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Wheat Thin Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2012.04.26 05:10:00 - [1] - Quote I've been playing this game since last Aug. Started this toon about 4 months ago gearing to fly this ship, Core skills are 5's and most skills in 4's. I have read hours of forums on ship fittings and would like the best fit for my Mach without spending a ton of isk. I have a bil to use on the Mach. All the input is appreciated thank you.
Pookoko Sigma Sagittarii Inc. 34	Posted - 2012.04.26 05:20:00 - [2] - Quote Cheap fit that works just T2 (I strongly recommmend faction gyros though) Highs: 800mm Auto canons + whatever on the utility slot Mids: MWD or AB + XL booster + 2xHardeners + Cap Injector Lows: 4xGyros + 3x Tracking Enhancers Rigs to taste TBH, as long as you get the lows right the rest is just a matter of preference.
Arch Ange1 Pelican. Cascade Imminent 2	Posted - 2012.04.26 10:21:00 - [3] - Quote Like the above poster said, but use faction gyro/deadspace booster/faction hardeners. That'll run you up to 1 bil (rep fleet gyro and TE, Gist x large booster, Faction hardeners). If you still have some more isk, then use a dead space AB. 3 faction gyro and one t2 is sufficient. the fourth one all not add much dps to warrant the use of faction. You won't need XL booster if you know to fly it.
Kattshiro Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 88	Posted - 2012.04.26 11:32:00 - [4] - Quote Cheap fit for a billion + dollar ship? This means you can't afford to lose it.
July Oumis Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 5	Posted - 2012.04.26 11:45:00 - [5] - Quote Minmatar BS V, Gallente BS IV, Large Autocannon Spec IV. If you don't have it, go for a Maelstraom. If you really want to fly it, here's a cheap but tanky fit: [Machariel, PvE Cheap] Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Damage Control II Pith C-Type X-Large Shield Booster Shield Boost Amplifier II Photon Scattering Field II Invulnerability Field II Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L [empty high slot] Large Projectile Burst Aerator II Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I [empty rig slot] Hobgoblin II x5 Hammerhead II x5 EM /Therm... use Mission specific hardeners, tanks even more.
Bunnie Hop Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 3	Posted - 2012.04.26 12:09:00 - [6] - Quote July Oumis wrote: Minmatar BS V, Gallente BS IV, Large Autocannon Spec IV. If you don't have it, go for a Maelstraom. If you really want to fly it, here's a cheap but tanky fit: [Machariel, PvE Cheap] Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Damage Control II Pith C-Type X-Large Shield Booster Shield Boost Amplifier II Photon Scattering Field II Invulnerability Field II Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L [empty high slot] Large Projectile Burst Aerator II Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I [empty rig slot] Hobgoblin II x5 Hammerhead II x5 EM /Therm... use Mission specific hardeners, tanks even more. Really good advice.
Wheat Thin Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2012.04.26 12:53:00 - [7] - Quote Thank you everyone for your input, when I have more isk, will upgrade the ship to have better performance.
July Oumis Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 7	Posted - 2012.04.26 13:49:00 - [8] - Quote You have 1 bil, my fit costs around 500 mil and suddenly you have to save up? Booster = 200 mil Gyros = 210 Rig = 80 I flew this fit, until I switched to a setup with afterburner and no capbooster.
Vain Eldritch State War Academy Caldari State 1	Posted - 2012.04.26 13:57:00 - [9] - Quote You're really brave for undocking this ship if you can't afford to replace it. Fly safe! o7 Androgynous Caldari Cross-dresser
July Oumis Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 7	Posted - 2012.04.26 14:11:00 - [10] - Quote Putting all your ISK into one ship, that will sooner or later burst into flames, is always a bad idea.

Orlacc Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 126	Posted - 2012.04.26 15:28:00 - [11] - Quote Shield skills ftw.
Kieron VonDeux 15	Posted - 2012.04.26 15:47:00 - [12] - Quote Just remeber that the Mach is best at speed tank, so you should be using your AB to tank more than your SB. I fly it like an oversized Vagabond myself, but not all missions react well to that. Read up on how you get aggro in each mission. Some are range based.
July Oumis Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 7	Posted - 2012.04.27 08:42:00 - [13] - Quote I use the AB only to get in Range, because the tank with an XL Booster is good enough for every Mission. If you orbit stuff with an AB and use the Machs low signature and high agility you forget the fact, that your tracking and with it, your applied DPS are going down. I kill the frigs standing still, then approach the bigger stuff in a straight line and kill cruisers -> BC -> BS. Less moving, more shooting. The Macha has 7 x 800mm tanking modules; use them! ...
Name Family Name Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 55	Posted - 2012.04.27 09:25:00 - [14] - Quote Above fit is way overtanked if you have decent skills, but regarding the fact the OP wants to fly a mach on a 4 month character, skills wont be decent, so not a bad idea to fly it like that. However, a mach without a propmod is plain terrible. That's like a hulk without strip miners. At least put an AB on it (or an MWD if you're into blitzing).
July Oumis Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 7	Posted - 2012.04.27 09:48:00 - [15] - Quote Thats why I posted the fit above. He will need more tank, because the damage will be far lower than necessary. I use an AB / MWD on my personal fit with 4 gyros, but I would't recommend that, if you have medium skills and no experience with the ship. Also he wanted a cheap fit...
Kieron VonDeux 17	Posted - 2012.04.27 14:07:00 - [16] - Quote July Oumis wrote: I use the AB only to get in Range, because the tank with an XL Booster is good enough for every Mission. If you orbit stuff with an AB and use the Machs low signature and high agility you forget the fact, that your tracking and with it, your applied DPS are going down. I kill the frigs standing still, then approach the bigger stuff in a straight line and kill cruisers -> BC -> BS. Less moving, more shooting. The Macha has 7 x 800mm tanking modules; use them! ... Think outside the box and don't simply orbit with the AB on. I do gun runs on my current target while linning up for my next target so transversal is negligible. It's also a lot more fun than just orbiting or sitting still. After destroying FF, DD, and CC...; I destroy 1 rat BS on way in, one on way out to about 15km, one on turning around and then one on the way back in. Less moving and more shooting is simply wasting so much of the potential of the Mach. Flying smart still allows you to have ~90% of the DPS while yanking and banking. That actually makes some of the most boring missions fun.
July Oumis Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 8	Posted - 2012.04.27 14:38:00 - [17] - Quote Get in range (20km), stop or align (if necessary), shoot. I'm pretty sure we mean the same thing. I won't stand still when there's a group of ships 50 km away. Avoiding transversal is the key.
Florio Miniature Giant Space Hamsters 30	Posted - 2012.04.27 15:09:00 - [18] - Quote As you get used to the mach, you'll probably remove the cap booster and fit an AB, then pulse the AB to get transversal up against tricky spawns. You also boost the XL shield booster. A mach's primary tank is its guns - blow up those BS rats before your shield tank becomes problematic. July Oumis's fit is good to start with; then as you get more skills and used to the ship and the rat spawns, go for more dps. Imho, pimping non-dps mods on a mach (apart from the AB) is not worthwhile because (as I said above) a mach tanks by blowing up the stuff shooting you :)
July Oumis Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 8	Posted - 2012.04.27 15:19:00 - [19] - Quote [Machariel, x-pensive] Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Gist X-Type X-Large Shield Booster Shield Boost Amplifier II Dread Guristas Photon Scattering Field Pithum C-Type Invulnerability Field Core X-Type 100MN MicroWarpdrive 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L Small Tractor Beam I Large Projectile Burst Aerator II Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I [empty rig slot] Hobgoblin II x5 Garde II x4 Pretty expensive, but nice to fly. If you have a boost alt you can downgrade the Gist to Pith
Orlacc Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 132	Posted - 2012.04.27 15:49:00 - [20] - Quote Pretty much what I fly except I don't use Shield amp and add hardener. Whoops. The fit just above ^^

Orlacc Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 132	Posted - 2012.04.27 15:51:00 - [21] - Quote Florio wrote: As you get used to the mach, you'll probably remove the cap booster and fit an AB, then pulse the AB to get transversal up against tricky spawns. You also boost the XL shield booster. A mach's primary tank is its guns - blow up those BS rats before your shield tank becomes problematic. July Oumis's fit is good to start with; then as you get more skills and used to the ship and the rat spawns, go for more dps. Imho, pimping non-dps mods on a mach (apart from the AB) is not worthwhile because (as I said above) a mach tanks by blowing up the stuff shooting you :) As this guy says, Mach is all about gank.
July Oumis Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 8	Posted - 2012.04.27 16:09:00 - [22] - Quote Orlacc wrote: Pretty much what I fly except I don't use Shield amp and add hardener. Whoops. The fit just above ^^ Amp > Hardener More tank in short time and since your cap is running out pretty fast -> less cycles more cap. I need 3 cycles for 30% shield. I try to keep it at 30-50%, because the "natural" regeneration rate is better.
Stetson Eagle ROC Academy The ROC 17	Posted - 2012.04.27 20:40:00 - [23] - Quote This July fella flies it excactly like I did and has good points in all of the posts. Take heed. The natural progression for a mach is 3x CCC / SMC "stationary" tank build -> AB - cap boosted build -> burst aerator II. In highsec, depending on where you mission, you might like a damage control (vs ganks) or a nanofiber (improved travel time). The damage control build works by ditching a mid for tracking computer and a TE for DC. It requires pimp stuff / imps.
Large Collidable Object morons. 1332	Posted - 2012.04.27 20:49:00 - [24] - Quote July Oumis wrote: Amp > Hardener I disagree - damage that isn't applied thanks to resistances doesn't need to be repped. Personally, I used to use 2 invulns, XL booster, MWD and cap booster fits after MWDs were allowed in missions. Had the quickest completion times with that kind of fit. You know... morons.
Orlacc Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 132	Posted - 2012.04.27 23:24:00 - [25] - Quote July Oumis wrote: Get in range (20km), stop or align (if necessary), shoot. I'm pretty sure we mean the same thing. I won't stand still when there's a group of ships 50 km away. Avoiding transversal is the key. 20km???? My Mach hits at 60km. Close to falloff but still 1200 against Angels BS. Plus, what mission do your shields get down to 30%? Mach's tank is it's gank.
Large Collidable Object morons. 1334	Posted - 2012.04.27 23:34:00 - [26] - Quote Orlacc wrote: July Oumis wrote: Get in range (20km), stop or align (if necessary), shoot. I'm pretty sure we mean the same thing. I won't stand still when there's a group of ships 50 km away. Avoiding transversal is the key. 20km???? My Mach hits at 60km. Close to falloff but still 1200 against Angels BS. Plus, what mission do your shields get down to 30%? Mach's tank is it's gank. Please post your 3000 dps exp/kin (at optimal) mach fit. You know... morons.
Orlacc Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 132	Posted - 2012.04.27 23:54:00 - [27] - Quote Large Collidable Object wrote: Orlacc wrote: July Oumis wrote: Get in range (20km), stop or align (if necessary), shoot. I'm pretty sure we mean the same thing. I won't stand still when there's a group of ships 50 km away. Avoiding transversal is the key. 20km???? My Mach hits at 60km. Close to falloff but still 1200 against Angels BS. Plus, what mission do your shields get down to 30%? Mach's tank is it's gank. Please post your 3000 dps exp/kin (at optimal) mach fit. How the hell is a 1200 hit (all guns) against Angels at 60km using Barrage 3000 dps??? My DPS is about 900
July Oumis Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 11	Posted - 2012.04.29 09:38:00 - [28] - Quote With Barrage (high cost, longrange, EXPLO damage) against angels (explo weakness), you can hit for 1200, but not every shot. Try that on Serpentis or Sanshas... Why not just run 1-2 cycles of your MWD and be in range with fusion? Also reloadtime...
ACE McFACE Acetech Systems 639	Posted - 2012.04.29 09:43:00 - [29] - Quote Doesnt a mach cost more than 1b now? Real men wear goggles and a Navy shirt!
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 3542	Posted - 2012.04.29 09:47:00 - [30] - Quote 1.25 for the hull in Jita a couple of days ago Sure am glad I got my machs when they were 700M or so. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players. Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/

July Oumis Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 11	Posted - 2012.04.29 09:58:00 - [31] - Quote Since you guys could get the BPCs via missions in Curse, also helped to keep the cost down on Machs, i guess.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 3542	Posted - 2012.04.29 13:06:00 - [32] - Quote July Oumis wrote: Since you guys could get the BPCs via missions in Curse, also helped to keep the cost down on Machs, i guess. Eh no it was much more efficient to sell Dram BPCs and use the ISK to buy Machs in Jita. All the russian botfarms in Angel space crashed the price of Mach BPCs last year. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players. Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
Trulaine The Scope Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2012.04.30 01:54:00 - [33] - Quote How does the Mach perform in Fed Navy missions? Currently doing 4's with Navy Mega... Do you fly a Mach like I would speed tank with a Tengu.just much closer?


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