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Jacob Vought
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Posted - 2004.08.12 00:55:00 -
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Edited by: Jacob Vought on 12/08/2004 01:08:56
I just did a mission against 3 ships (2 pirate escorts and 1 schmidt) at no greater than 60km range. I have Caldari Cruiser level 3 and fly a Caracal for missions. My heavy missiles should have a velocity of 1,560m/s with a running time of 40 seconds, yeilding a range of 62,400. These npc's did not move away from me and I did not move away from them. I engaged them at 58km with my first salvo, then fired 3 more, they were colsing on me (slowly) so the range did not increase. Only the last missile salvo hit. I was angered that this happened because I was supposed to get 62,400 range. Anyway, I wrapped up by killing Schmidt at close range and going after the escorts and killing them at 48km or less. I just did not want to waste missiles again. My analysis yeilds that the missile speed increase was less than 10% or nothing at all.
I run missions a lot and since patch I had noticed something was wrong with the range. This mission was slow enough to check out what I had thought was happening. The missiles are falling short.
I just tested another mission where the target is almost stationary at 58km. The missiles disappered before they could hit the target at that range. I am very sure now. The Caracal bonus is not equating to longer range.
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Jacob Vought
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Posted - 2004.08.12 00:55:00 -
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Edited by: Jacob Vought on 12/08/2004 01:08:56
I just did a mission against 3 ships (2 pirate escorts and 1 schmidt) at no greater than 60km range. I have Caldari Cruiser level 3 and fly a Caracal for missions. My heavy missiles should have a velocity of 1,560m/s with a running time of 40 seconds, yeilding a range of 62,400. These npc's did not move away from me and I did not move away from them. I engaged them at 58km with my first salvo, then fired 3 more, they were colsing on me (slowly) so the range did not increase. Only the last missile salvo hit. I was angered that this happened because I was supposed to get 62,400 range. Anyway, I wrapped up by killing Schmidt at close range and going after the escorts and killing them at 48km or less. I just did not want to waste missiles again. My analysis yeilds that the missile speed increase was less than 10% or nothing at all.
I run missions a lot and since patch I had noticed something was wrong with the range. This mission was slow enough to check out what I had thought was happening. The missiles are falling short.
I just tested another mission where the target is almost stationary at 58km. The missiles disappered before they could hit the target at that range. I am very sure now. The Caracal bonus is not equating to longer range.
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Shia Dai
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Posted - 2004.08.12 01:33:00 -
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If this is true it really needs to be looked at.
Shia
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Shia Dai
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Posted - 2004.08.12 01:33:00 -
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If this is true it really needs to be looked at.
Shia
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Siolorin
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Posted - 2004.08.12 03:14:00 -
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i can verify this. Fighting an NPC Gurista Mortifier (Moa), it strangely stopped approaching me and completely stopped moving.
All of a sudden, I was missing from well within my range of 57600m (Cruiser lvl 2) |
Siolorin
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Posted - 2004.08.12 03:14:00 -
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i can verify this. Fighting an NPC Gurista Mortifier (Moa), it strangely stopped approaching me and completely stopped moving.
All of a sudden, I was missing from well within my range of 57600m (Cruiser lvl 2) |
Mongooser
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Posted - 2004.08.12 03:28:00 -
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Edited by: Mongooser on 12/08/2004 03:30:50
Is there an acceleration period after launch or do they spit out at that named max speed? If the rate of acceleration between the launch and max speed is constant and the time taken to reach that speed is say 4 seconds, then you can shave 2 seconds worth off your total range. About 3km, then again i dont use missiles and i have no idea if they accelerate at all.
 Mongooser 
Must play EVE while drunk more......
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Mongooser
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Posted - 2004.08.12 03:28:00 -
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Edited by: Mongooser on 12/08/2004 03:30:50
Is there an acceleration period after launch or do they spit out at that named max speed? If the rate of acceleration between the launch and max speed is constant and the time taken to reach that speed is say 4 seconds, then you can shave 2 seconds worth off your total range. About 3km, then again i dont use missiles and i have no idea if they accelerate at all.
Mongooser
Must play EVE while drunk more......
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X'Alor
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Posted - 2004.08.12 03:54:00 -
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i got cruiser 4 and only have a range of about 45ish......anything over 45 and the missles just disappear.
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X'Alor
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Posted - 2004.08.12 03:54:00 -
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i got cruiser 4 and only have a range of about 45ish......anything over 45 and the missles just disappear.
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Kuggington
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Posted - 2004.08.12 05:17:00 -
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Same as X'Alor, tested it using a can. I fired from 60km, should be able to hit from around 64km(due to the acceleration period) but they only go 45km and disapear.
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Kuggington
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Posted - 2004.08.12 05:17:00 -
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Same as X'Alor, tested it using a can. I fired from 60km, should be able to hit from around 64km(due to the acceleration period) but they only go 45km and disapear.
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DarK
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Posted - 2004.08.12 06:19:00 -
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Yeah this was already a problem when testing on chaos.
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DarK
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Posted - 2004.08.12 06:19:00 -
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Yeah this was already a problem when testing on chaos.
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MrRookie
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Posted - 2004.08.12 07:14:00 -
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Does anyone know if the are going to fix it anytime soon?
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MrRookie
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Posted - 2004.08.12 07:14:00 -
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Does anyone know if the are going to fix it anytime soon?
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Insane Angel
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Posted - 2004.08.12 07:52:00 -
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Yeah and 'he' never thinks of this stuff or fixes real problems without making a ton more. I know you guys know who I am talking about.
I have caldari cruiser lvl 5 and you can well imagine how upset I am after spending all that time training the skill only to not see it work properly.
btw I use my caracal for missions too, I do love the caldari ships more then the others (and I can fly em all).
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Insane Angel
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Posted - 2004.08.12 07:52:00 -
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Yeah and 'he' never thinks of this stuff or fixes real problems without making a ton more. I know you guys know who I am talking about.
I have caldari cruiser lvl 5 and you can well imagine how upset I am after spending all that time training the skill only to not see it work properly.
btw I use my caracal for missions too, I do love the caldari ships more then the others (and I can fly em all).
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sableye
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Posted - 2004.08.12 09:23:00 -
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Edited by: sableye on 12/08/2004 09:32:31
Yer its really anoying, Its got me thinking my second bonus on my raven probably does'nt work either.
The way I see it though if you can't get it to work, then change the caracal's bonus untill you can.
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sableye
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Posted - 2004.08.12 09:23:00 -
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Edited by: sableye on 12/08/2004 09:32:31
Yer its really anoying, Its got me thinking my second bonus on my raven probably does'nt work either.
The way I see it though if you can't get it to work, then change the caracal's bonus untill you can.
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Jacob Vought
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Posted - 2004.08.12 12:01:00 -
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I figure a RoF bonus of 5% would be more easily coded in and would most definitely work. Why isn't that put in instead of a broken bonus? Also, is there an accelleration period on missiles? I haven't read anything on this so I would like to know as it does affect my combat with a Caracal.
Hopefully CCP doesn't wait a month or more to fix this broken bonus as the Caracal is now at a deficit compared to other cruisers.
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Jacob Vought
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Posted - 2004.08.12 12:01:00 -
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I figure a RoF bonus of 5% would be more easily coded in and would most definitely work. Why isn't that put in instead of a broken bonus? Also, is there an accelleration period on missiles? I haven't read anything on this so I would like to know as it does affect my combat with a Caracal.
Hopefully CCP doesn't wait a month or more to fix this broken bonus as the Caracal is now at a deficit compared to other cruisers.
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obscuroditus
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Posted - 2004.08.12 12:10:00 -
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Finally a thread with caracal users.
I feel like we are completely ignored - I posted the disfunctionality of the secondary bonus on the caracal in about 10 places now, including the sticky missile thread, secondary cruiser bonus thread, and various bugreporting threads. Also a thread dedicated to this and other issues that popped up in 1722-24 patch goes into great detail about the nonfunctioning of this bonus - and I know for fact it has been read by several dev's, and one even responded in it. (Not on topic of the issue).
Why are we being ignored? No mention of it, no responses to postings in the forum that are about it - nothing 
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obscuroditus
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Posted - 2004.08.12 12:10:00 -
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Finally a thread with caracal users.
I feel like we are completely ignored - I posted the disfunctionality of the secondary bonus on the caracal in about 10 places now, including the sticky missile thread, secondary cruiser bonus thread, and various bugreporting threads. Also a thread dedicated to this and other issues that popped up in 1722-24 patch goes into great detail about the nonfunctioning of this bonus - and I know for fact it has been read by several dev's, and one even responded in it. (Not on topic of the issue).
Why are we being ignored? No mention of it, no responses to postings in the forum that are about it - nothing
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MrRookie
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Posted - 2004.08.12 12:47:00 -
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They posted something about in 1 thread somewhere. Something baout fixing it soon. I`m gonna go see if I find it again
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MrRookie
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Posted - 2004.08.12 12:47:00 -
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They posted something about in 1 thread somewhere. Something baout fixing it soon. I`m gonna go see if I find it again
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Insane Angel
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Posted - 2004.08.12 15:43:00 -
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Yep, the reply read something like this: w0mb-'Yes changes were made to missiles. The game takes place 10,000 years in the future and the guidance systems on missiles havent advanced much since vietnam, therefore missiles will now deflect unless its a direct hit'
'In addition any ship that fires missiles, such as the caracal' will continue to suffer and not recieve bonuses because I would rather not fix the problems that exsist but create new ones that will **** everyone off, kthxbye.'
Heh, name was slightly altered to hide the identity.
/emote waits for the lighting bolt to strike him down 
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Insane Angel
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Posted - 2004.08.12 15:43:00 -
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Yep, the reply read something like this: w0mb-'Yes changes were made to missiles. The game takes place 10,000 years in the future and the guidance systems on missiles havent advanced much since vietnam, therefore missiles will now deflect unless its a direct hit'
'In addition any ship that fires missiles, such as the caracal' will continue to suffer and not recieve bonuses because I would rather not fix the problems that exsist but create new ones that will **** everyone off, kthxbye.'
Heh, name was slightly altered to hide the identity.
/emote waits for the lighting bolt to strike him down
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2004.08.12 16:11:00 -
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tomb's gonna come with his nerf bat and beat the hell outta ya for that statement
Nah seriously it needs fixing. Ive never noticed if the bonus works on my scorp, just assumed it did This needs fixing otherwise the caracal is the only cruiser without a second bonus
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2004.08.12 16:11:00 -
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tomb's gonna come with his nerf bat and beat the hell outta ya for that statement
Nah seriously it needs fixing. Ive never noticed if the bonus works on my scorp, just assumed it did This needs fixing otherwise the caracal is the only cruiser without a second bonus
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