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Yakia TovilToba
Halliburton Inc.
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Posted - 2009.03.03 09:56:00 -
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You can use probes from within wormholespace that might lead you to a completely other system than that from which you entered. This means i can enter a WH in my carrier from lowsec and then have a chance to find a pathway to highsec ? Or do all the WH that are connected to highsec have a mass limitation that won't allow capitals to go through ?
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cianide pro
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Posted - 2009.03.03 10:06:00 -
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no its not possible to bring capitals into high sec.
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Great Artista
Caldari Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2009.03.03 10:09:00 -
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Wormholes state on the show-info where they lead (high-sec, low-sec, null-sec, unknown) so I suppose there could be mechanism on the WH itself to prevent capitals from jumping to highsec. _______
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Space Wanderer
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Posted - 2009.03.03 10:09:00 -
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This is only the 8574865th time I read this question. :-)
No highsec WH will allow in the mass of a capital.
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Shidousha
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.03.03 10:13:00 -
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Well, I managed to get a dreadnought the other way through (originating Uhodoh - that's 0.9)... That means that the other way should be possible as well... The mass limitation says after what mass the wormhole collapses (imo), there was no stop sign or anything... I think that needs a little bit of thinking indeed.
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Space Wanderer
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Posted - 2009.03.03 10:15:00 -
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Edited by: Space Wanderer on 03/03/2009 10:15:37
Originally by: Shidousha Well, I managed to get a dreadnought the other way through (originating Uhodoh - that's 0.9)... That means that the other way should be possible as well... The mass limitation says after what mass the wormhole collapses (imo), there was no stop sign or anything... I think that needs a little bit of thinking indeed.
I think you should bug report it. According to many blogs I don't think it is intended. Unless WH have different masses allowed, depending on the direction.
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Pytria Le'Danness
Placid Reborn
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Posted - 2009.03.03 10:15:00 -
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I found a WH from Dodixie to WHSpace, and it turned out three other wormholes lead into that system, so it was quite busy. So I asked a carrier who was in the system as well if he could try to move his Thanatos into Dodixie, but the attempt failed with an error message along the lines of "This wormhole is not capable of handling a ship of this size"
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Yakia TovilToba
Halliburton Inc.
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Posted - 2009.03.03 10:23:00 -
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Originally by: Pytria Le'Danness I found a WH from Dodixie to WHSpace, and it turned out three other wormholes lead into that system, so it was quite busy. So I asked a carrier who was in the system as well if he could try to move his Thanatos into Dodixie, but the attempt failed with an error message along the lines of "This wormhole is not capable of handling a ship of this size"
Ah too bad then, would be funny to bring a rorqual into hisce tho. At least i don't have to fear that my hisec carrier will drop in value
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Gouldan Harbinger
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Posted - 2009.03.04 05:19:00 -
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Originally by: Yakia TovilToba Ah too bad then, would be funny to bring a rorqual into hisce tho. At least i don't have to fear that my hisec carrier will drop in value
u have a highsec carrier?
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joey2cool2007
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Posted - 2009.03.04 05:40:00 -
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Edited by: joey2cool2007 on 04/03/2009 05:40:02
Originally by: Gouldan Harbinger
Originally by: Yakia TovilToba Ah too bad then, would be funny to bring a rorqual into hisce tho. At least i don't have to fear that my hisec carrier will drop in value
u have a highsec carrier?
judging by the fact he sed MY hisec carrier, he does indeed possess a hisec carrier
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Tuttomenui II
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.03.04 05:58:00 -
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I think it would be cool if CCP made it possible to get caps into hisec through the use of wormholes. There are already some caps in hisec under stricked rules. My guess is though they wont allow it.
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ollobrains2
Gallente New Eve Order Holdings
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Posted - 2009.03.04 06:39:00 -
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easy way would be to tag all capital ships that arent meant to be in high sec with a id tag on the database and match it up with wormholes leading to high sec that would simply state that mass of capital isnt allowed thro it would allow capitals to go high-low like chribbas veldnaught but not come back.
that way they could make high-wspace wormholes bigger with a bigger mass but just attach a id restrictions preventing capitals from using said wormholes.
U could then scale them up and down as large as u want say for a 50 man bs gang to go thro but no caps
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Red 7
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Posted - 2009.03.04 09:54:00 -
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Originally by: Shidousha Well, I managed to get a dreadnought the other way through (originating Uhodoh - that's 0.9)... That means that the other way should be possible as well... The mass limitation says after what mass the wormhole collapses (imo), there was no stop sign or anything... I think that needs a little bit of thinking indeed.
The way the markets are seeded on SISI means you can buy capitals in highsec. Trying bringing it back and you'll be notified that the ship is too big to enter the WH.
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piratezxp
Caldari Gene Works AKA-AHN KINGDOM
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Posted - 2009.03.04 10:08:00 -
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Edited by: piratezxp on 04/03/2009 10:08:04 even if u could get a capital into high sec, woudnt concord shag it?
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Marconius
Caldari Astroglide X The Foray Project
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Posted - 2009.03.04 10:13:00 -
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Originally by: Yakia TovilToba
Originally by: Pytria Le'Danness I found a WH from Dodixie to WHSpace, and it turned out three other wormholes lead into that system, so it was quite busy. So I asked a carrier who was in the system as well if he could try to move his Thanatos into Dodixie, but the attempt failed with an error message along the lines of "This wormhole is not capable of handling a ship of this size"
Ah too bad then, would be funny to bring a rorqual into hisce tho. At least i don't have to fear that my hisec carrier will drop in value
CCP moved all high sec capitals like carriers and dreads to low sec. I was pretty sure that happened a few months ago. I recal Chribba was not to happy about that.
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Ishihiro tanaka
Amarr Enrave Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.03.04 10:21:00 -
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Which was later reversed.
Once a cap should get into high-sec, it can only remain in that system, it can't use the gates. The only way for the cap to get out is to cyno out ot low-sec.
Given the exploitability of this all, my guess is that any WH leading into hi-sec will have a weight restriction with its limits nicely placed on an orca and anything smaller.
Simply put, no caps will be able to enter hi-sec given the present limitations. .. ... .... .. .... .. .-. --- - .- -. .- -.- .- A bullet, Laser beam or Plasma charge may have your name on it..... A Smartbomb or Shrapnel is adressed "To whom it may concern"... |
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CCP Abathur
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Posted - 2009.03.04 12:48:00 -
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No, you will not be able to sit your carriers at the undock point of Jita 4-4 (no matter how LOL it would be) or enter any other hi sec system. The few times this has happened on SiSi were bugs and they are being stomped flat.
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Wingshard
Ikazuchi and Raikou Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.03.04 15:32:00 -
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Originally by: Marconius
Originally by: Yakia TovilToba
Originally by: Pytria Le'Danness I found a WH from Dodixie to WHSpace, and it turned out three other wormholes lead into that system, so it was quite busy. So I asked a carrier who was in the system as well if he could try to move his Thanatos into Dodixie, but the attempt failed with an error message along the lines of "This wormhole is not capable of handling a ship of this size"
Ah too bad then, would be funny to bring a rorqual into hisce tho. At least i don't have to fear that my hisec carrier will drop in value
CCP moved all high sec capitals like carriers and dreads to low sec. I was pretty sure that happened a few months ago. I recal Chribba was not to happy about that.
chribba was mining with his one just like a week ago *and prolly stil is* in amarr last time i visited. so no
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.03.04 15:57:00 -
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They were all moved to low sec. However chribba complained about it, and the end result was that the people owning the high sec capitals could request them being moved back. ---------------------------------------------
Originally by: Neth'Rae Military experts are calling this a troll.
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Chips nBeans
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Posted - 2009.03.04 18:26:00 -
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When concord developed these wormholes they made them follow the same rules as the stargates, or cant you realise that?
Worm holes are a natural phenomena of unknown origin, no one knows how they are formed, why the form, when or for how long, nor do they know where they lead. Except for concord.
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Batolemaeus
Caldari Free-Space-Ranger Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.03.04 18:28:00 -
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Originally by: Furb Killer They were all moved to low sec. However chribba complained about it, and the end result was that the people owning the high sec capitals could request them being moved back.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
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Ishina Fel
Caldari Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2009.03.05 10:54:00 -
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Originally by: Batolemaeus
Originally by: Furb Killer They were all moved to low sec. However chribba complained about it, and the end result was that the people owning the high sec capitals could request them being moved back.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
Sorry to say it that harshly..
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Yakia TovilToba
Halliburton Inc.
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Posted - 2009.03.05 11:09:00 -
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Originally by: Batolemaeus
Originally by: Furb Killer They were all moved to low sec. However chribba complained about it, and the end result was that the people owning the high sec capitals could request them being moved back.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
Sorry to say it that harshly..
No he is basically right. CCP wanted to move them all out, when they moved Chribbas Veldnaught, Chribba made a complain-thread and lot's of people were supporting it. The threadnought became too big to be ignored, and CCP decided to leave those capitals in highsec. Not all were moved in lowsec, i had my carrier still in higsec (hidden in a contract ) but there was a statement of CCP that those who were moved out during this campaign will be moved back.
However, thr original question has now been answered by CCP Abathur, this thread can be closed.
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ollobrains2
Gallente New Eve Order Holdings
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Posted - 2009.03.05 11:24:00 -
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chribba cant mount weapons only mining lasers
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CCP Atropos
C C P
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Posted - 2009.03.05 11:29:00 -
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Originally by: Yakia TovilToba i had my carrier still in higsec (hidden in a contract )
/me makes a note.
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ollobrains2
Gallente New Eve Order Holdings
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Posted - 2009.03.05 11:50:00 -
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do those notes include downtime starting on the 9th of march or 10th, oh ive also possibly got a capital ship hidden in empire hopefully i can get it out maybe
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2009.03.05 12:00:00 -
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Originally by: Yakia TovilToba
Originally by: Batolemaeus
Originally by: Furb Killer They were all moved to low sec. However chribba complained about it, and the end result was that the people owning the high sec capitals could request them being moved back.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
Sorry to say it that harshly..
No he is basically right. CCP wanted to move them all out, when they moved Chribbas Veldnaught, Chribba made a complain-thread and lot's of people were supporting it. The threadnought became too big to be ignored, and CCP decided to leave those capitals in highsec. Not all were moved in lowsec, i had my carrier still in higsec (hidden in a contract ) but there was a statement of CCP that those who were moved out during this campaign will be moved back.
However, thr original question has now been answered by CCP Abathur, this thread can be closed.
Actually, what happened was;
Someone petitioned the Veldnaught claiming I had shot them + provided a fake killmail and the GM moved the ship without checking if that indeed had happened. When I logged on I simply had a mail from "SYSTEM" saying hi we moved your ship.
So I petitioned to ask why, and request that it would be returned. The GM replying to my petition for some reason, simply said "This is a new rule we put into effect in the last 24 hours, all capitals will be moved."
So I posted a thread basicly saying that "apparently there's a new rule about high-sec caps" - which took speed and pepole going wild, growing too much that Senior GMs had to look into the matter, and concluded that the move of my ship was wrong and that the internal communication wasn't at its best.
So, to my knowledge, no other ships was ever moved, nor was there any thoughts of moving them - apart from the GM that replied to me (who probably had his own thoughts not applied by Senior GMs). The ship was returned and new guidelines was stated as the previous rules - well there wasn't really any previous rules - hence the problem with a rouge GM taking actions.
Ofc all the mess could easily have been avoided if the first GM who got the "killmail" petition would actually have verified said action.
/c
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ollobrains2
Gallente New Eve Order Holdings
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Posted - 2009.03.05 12:02:00 -
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and ccp have put in new policies and proceduers internally that reduce the chance of all of this happen again
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.05 12:48:00 -
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I really think highsec wormholes should just allow capitals, but Concord shall destroy them.
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