As previously pointed out, we have relatively safe space in which to get filthy rich in 0.0 because we fought to own it and continue to fight to keep it secure. I'm fairly sure you don't realise the amount of effort and logistics that go into making such a thing possible because you've never ventured out of the comfort of high sec.

Heh.

As opposed to Goon's no risk profit?

Every expansion that has expanded warfare and combat mechanics and ships has responded in an upswing in new subs (Dominion, Apocrypha, Crucible, etc). Every expansion centered around risk-free hisec isk and commodity faucets (Tyrannis, Incursion, etc) has resulted in a significant drop in EVE's player growth.

The most steadfast and loyal EVE players have stuck around because they play to be challenged and overcome genuine, emergent obstacles to their goals - not to tour a theme park with blinking wallets. HTH

I'm gonna give you that point here, I'm sorry community, but i must.

However, the reason a lot of people don't leave the comfort of high sec, is because they don't want to be part of any of the established alliances or corporations and without that, you can't really do anything in null.

The idea of a sandbox, is that you can do your own thing, not to say: well here's 3 large alliances, go join the one you hate the least and have fun.

So once again, credit for what you said there, but try to keep what i just said in mind, cause it's most likely not that far from the truth.

+10

Although i must say that, it would kinda suck very hard, seeing as I spent countless hours farming standing and training my science skills, so i could get the best deals on datacores.
If they turn out to be worth nothing in a couple of months, i would kinda feel screwed.

I must have missed this thing about Datacores, what all is going on with them? The problem I see with the current system is that people are using it as a passive isk generator (make an alt account, 3x datacore and pi alts, ta-da, pays for that account and your main) instead of it's intended purpose.

I must have missed this thing about Datacores, what all is going on with them? The problem I see with the current system is that people are using it as a passive isk generator (make an alt account, 3x datacore and pi alts, ta-da, pays for that account and your main) instead of it's intended purpose.

I'm gonna give you that point here, I'm sorry community, but i must.

However, the reason a lot of people don't leave the comfort of high sec, is because they don't want to be part of any of the established alliances or corporations and without that, you can't really do anything in null.

The idea of a sandbox, is that you can do your own thing, not to say: well here's 3 large alliances, go join the one you hate the least and have fun.

So once again, credit for what you said there, but try to keep what i just said in mind, cause it's most likely not that far from the truth.

So... free isk and outrageous market inflation is a good thing?

Huh. Learn something new everyday.

Myself, I hope they nerf L4 Missions a bit next update, they're a bit out of line too. What's this about Datacore Mining being nerfed?

Yeah, i don't know where this idea comes from either, but it's all i could make out of the OP.

So your options are stay in High Sec and enjoy the lack of politics/risk and settle for a lower income, or join/found a 0.0 corp and enjoy the higher profits that go along with the increased effort involved for you and your corp mates. Sandbox, yay!

This really is working as intended.

... join/found a 0.0 corp and enjoy the higher profits that go along with the increased effort involved for you and your corp mates.

That's kind of the point.

But if you want lower effort just join an existing corp. Or, stay in High Sec and accept lower profits. I honestly can't see what part of this could be confusing or considered broken.

I am speaking to the null sec zealots in-game plus the faction within the CCP dev/content community.
Well, you got what you wanted. Another massive transfer of wealth from high sec income to null sec.

Best guess after the devastation of the VG's, is we are looking at Incursion ISK injected in the game go from 9 Trillion/month to about 3-4 Trillion, once people have fully figured them out. An immense nerf.

Meantime, the bounties on all Drone missions equals new ISK from the Drone Regions.
High sec missions drone bounties will be less far far than the reduction in high sec Incursion Payouts, while the Drone Regions are a substantial new ISK flow.

Let's see what the May numbers look like when CCP does it's tweeets at end of May.
Let's see how close I am in my estimates.

I am banking on 3.5 trillion ISK injection from Incursions, and about 28-30 trillion from rest of the game.
Total reduction of ISK/month will be in the 1-2 trillion range tops, with a much larger percentage being generated from null.

Having a life besides EVE, meaning casual play, meaning less then 2 hours per day.
Didn't say you were wrong though, only said that there are people who do not WANT to join any of the currently running null sec corporations.

Having a life besides EVE, meaning casual play, meaning less then 2 hours per day.
Didn't say you were wrong though, only said that there are people who do not WANT to join any of the currently running null sec corporations.

nope I expect to see 39-44 trillion from bounties alone. the Drone bounties & all the peeps going from Incursions to L4's will more then inject any lost income from Incursions getting gutted. Vanguards in effect got a 50-75% reduction in ISK/hour with OTA's stacking up like dead bodies did in streets of Europe during the Black Plague. Thanks for probably ruining an entire community CCP DEV's... who tests this crap anyways?

Best guess after the devastation of the VG's, is we are looking at Incursion ISK injected in the game go from 9 Trillion/month to about 3-4 Trillion, once people have fully figured them out.

I am banking on 3.5 trillion ISK injection from Incursions, and about 28-30 trillion from rest of the game.

Total reduction of ISK/month will be in the 1-2 trillion range tops, with a much larger percentage being generated from null.

angry stuff

I'm sure most High Sec residents spend at least as much time playing on average as people in 0.0. What separates them is that those who are risk adverse stay in 'safe' space and accordingly profit less in return for the added safety.

The simple fact is, anyone can move out to 0.0 space if they want to and take advantages of the rewards it offers them... If they're willing at accept the risk.

CCP wants money making in this game to be about risk vs reward.

The higher the risk, the higher the reward.

Incursions messed that up by creating an extremely low risk and extremely high reward activity, essentially obsoleting every form of money making in the game.