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Greystar
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Posted - 2004.08.12 15:10:00 -
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Been reading this forum, and I think I've come to some sort of understanding as to how the care bear mind works.
They all have a phsycological thingy called Marvinism, where they have certain characteristics of Marvin from the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy holoreels.....
Marvin: (in droning monotone) Of course, when I started out I just had a probe, but after days and days I mind numbingly boring Plagioclase mining I got myself a Thorax. After I upped my skills I could run 5 miner II's and a bayload of drones, and then the Omber really started flowing. Weeks went by and then I got myself a dom. Now I can mine that Jaspet on my own like you can't believe. One day, I hope to have two doms so that I can run one from my alt account. It would almost be good to be pirated now, then at least I would have a real goal in life, like building up to get a dom all over again. Yes, I think I'd like that. Don't ask me what I'm going to do with all this ore and ISK, just leave me be to get on with quietly mining, etc.
edited because being a 'carebear' is not a condition people suffer from.-Eris Discordia
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Greystar
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Posted - 2004.08.12 15:10:00 -
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Been reading this forum, and I think I've come to some sort of understanding as to how the care bear mind works.
They all have a phsycological thingy called Marvinism, where they have certain characteristics of Marvin from the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy holoreels.....
Marvin: (in droning monotone) Of course, when I started out I just had a probe, but after days and days I mind numbingly boring Plagioclase mining I got myself a Thorax. After I upped my skills I could run 5 miner II's and a bayload of drones, and then the Omber really started flowing. Weeks went by and then I got myself a dom. Now I can mine that Jaspet on my own like you can't believe. One day, I hope to have two doms so that I can run one from my alt account. It would almost be good to be pirated now, then at least I would have a real goal in life, like building up to get a dom all over again. Yes, I think I'd like that. Don't ask me what I'm going to do with all this ore and ISK, just leave me be to get on with quietly mining, etc.
edited because being a 'carebear' is not a condition people suffer from.-Eris Discordia
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Riddari
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Posted - 2004.08.12 15:12:00 -
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tch tch old mate
Oversimplifying and stereotyping gets you nowhere
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Riddari
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Posted - 2004.08.12 15:12:00 -
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tch tch old mate
Oversimplifying and stereotyping gets you nowhere
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Shade Widow
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Posted - 2004.08.12 15:15:00 -
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You dont like people making blanket statements over what you do so you do it to them?
This may be one of those posts I was talking about where the person thinks its hilarious but its just a troll.
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Shade Widow
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Posted - 2004.08.12 15:15:00 -
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You dont like people making blanket statements over what you do so you do it to them?
This may be one of those posts I was talking about where the person thinks its hilarious but its just a troll.
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2004.08.12 15:19:00 -
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and who do u think supplies the market with most of the ore/ship modules/ships/ammo/BPC etc? It certainly aint u rats so how about u stfu and just let the "carebears" (which is a cr@p phrase anyway) get on with supplying all the pirates and corp wars with the stuff they need for theyre career by getting on with theyre own (if that makes sense )
everyone would then be happy and all this b***hing which is pointless would go away 
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2004.08.12 15:19:00 -
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and who do u think supplies the market with most of the ore/ship modules/ships/ammo/BPC etc? It certainly aint u rats so how about u stfu and just let the "carebears" (which is a cr@p phrase anyway) get on with supplying all the pirates and corp wars with the stuff they need for theyre career by getting on with theyre own (if that makes sense)
everyone would then be happy and all this b***hing which is pointless would go away
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Toran Mehtar
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Posted - 2004.08.12 15:19:00 -
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Well, I'm sure carebear psychology is a, erm, very interesting subject, but I have to say I much prefer Red Dwarf to Hitch-Hikers.
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Toran Mehtar
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Posted - 2004.08.12 15:19:00 -
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Well, I'm sure carebear psychology is a, erm, very interesting subject, but I have to say I much prefer Red Dwarf to Hitch-Hikers.
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Shade Widow
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Posted - 2004.08.12 15:23:00 -
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Id like to know what goes on in the head of someone who makes topics like this more than a miner....
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Shade Widow
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Posted - 2004.08.12 15:23:00 -
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Id like to know what goes on in the head of someone who makes topics like this more than a miner....
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FuPhal
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Posted - 2004.08.12 15:40:00 -
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Yeah... carebears sux they all whine too much and claim to be the only people that support the market etc etc and if they werent there then the whole EVE economy would collapse....
Carebears... get over ureselfs pls :P
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FuPhal
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Posted - 2004.08.12 15:40:00 -
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Yeah... carebears sux they all whine too much and claim to be the only people that support the market etc etc and if they werent there then the whole EVE economy would collapse....
Carebears... get over ureselfs pls :P
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Shade Widow
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Posted - 2004.08.12 15:41:00 -
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FuPhal get over your self please
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Shade Widow
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Posted - 2004.08.12 15:41:00 -
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FuPhal get over your self please
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FuPhal
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Posted - 2004.08.12 16:01:00 -
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Well if these sorts of comments and posts are good enough for pirates then theyre good enough for carebears :P
Carebears are all greedy mofos! tralalalalala
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FuPhal
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Posted - 2004.08.12 16:01:00 -
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Well if these sorts of comments and posts are good enough for pirates then theyre good enough for carebears :P
Carebears are all greedy mofos! tralalalalala
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Shade Widow
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Posted - 2004.08.12 16:05:00 -
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and your not? 
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Shade Widow
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Posted - 2004.08.12 16:05:00 -
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and your not?
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Darrin Tobruk
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Posted - 2004.08.12 16:13:00 -
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Miners/producers create the supply, pirates/pvpers create the demand. One needs the other (more or less). It's the people who whine about it that bother me. (pirate and carebear).
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Darrin Tobruk
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Posted - 2004.08.12 16:13:00 -
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Miners/producers create the supply, pirates/pvpers create the demand. One needs the other (more or less). It's the people who whine about it that bother me. (pirate and carebear).
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Shade Widow
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Posted - 2004.08.12 16:16:00 -
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Edited by: Shade Widow on 12/08/2004 16:18:19
There is no carebears it goes more like this on the scale of life.
Greifer->Insane->Pirate->PvP->NPCkiller->(complainers)<-Subsistanceminers<-Corpmines<-miners<-Addicts
All of the groups have certain people that pour into the complainers group.
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Shade Widow
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Posted - 2004.08.12 16:16:00 -
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Edited by: Shade Widow on 12/08/2004 16:18:19
There is no carebears it goes more like this on the scale of life.
Greifer->Insane->Pirate->PvP->NPCkiller->(complainers)<-Subsistanceminers<-Corpmines<-miners<-Addicts
All of the groups have certain people that pour into the complainers group.
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Roshan longshot
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Posted - 2004.08.12 16:25:00 -
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Dont get me wrong (though you will) I beleave if you pay for the game you should play it the way you want to. Now that does not give you the right to blast the miner away just cause he is there.
I do a little of everything, I hate mining but do it cause I wont pay for the lessor ores.
I hunt belt rats, cause that is fun.
I also do a little PvP but then again so does everyone that ventures out in 0.0 space.
At this time my skills reflect alot, I am not a fighter though my skills are all level four +
I am not a miner but those skills are level 4 and 5
I am not a manufacture but those skills also are high.
I play the game the way I want to, and beleave all should have that chance to do the same. I do not agree with all the whines and crying some of you do about how CCP nerfed pirates. Cause CCP also nerfed the other players as well. Maybe this game can come to a well liked fair system for all parties. Maybe not. You want to gate camp fine go for it I just use BM's to get around you. You want to hunt non-offensive players down just to watch the pretty light show go for it, but dont cry when I zoom away from you cause I cant fight in the mining ship. And dont cry when my alt pops up and lays waste to your hauler or shuttle or what ever he can take one and win. Just play the game and have fun.
Free-form Professions, ensure no limetations on professions. Be a trader, fighter, industialist, researcher, hunter,pirate[/i] or mixture of them all.
[i]As read from the original box and from this site.
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Roshan longshot
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Posted - 2004.08.12 16:25:00 -
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Dont get me wrong (though you will) I beleave if you pay for the game you should play it the way you want to. Now that does not give you the right to blast the miner away just cause he is there.
I do a little of everything, I hate mining but do it cause I wont pay for the lessor ores.
I hunt belt rats, cause that is fun.
I also do a little PvP but then again so does everyone that ventures out in 0.0 space.
At this time my skills reflect alot, I am not a fighter though my skills are all level four +
I am not a miner but those skills are level 4 and 5
I am not a manufacture but those skills also are high.
I play the game the way I want to, and beleave all should have that chance to do the same. I do not agree with all the whines and crying some of you do about how CCP nerfed pirates. Cause CCP also nerfed the other players as well. Maybe this game can come to a well liked fair system for all parties. Maybe not. You want to gate camp fine go for it I just use BM's to get around you. You want to hunt non-offensive players down just to watch the pretty light show go for it, but dont cry when I zoom away from you cause I cant fight in the mining ship. And dont cry when my alt pops up and lays waste to your hauler or shuttle or what ever he can take one and win. Just play the game and have fun.
Free-form Professions, ensure no limetations on professions. Be a trader, fighter, industialist, researcher, hunter,pirate[/i] or mixture of them all.
[i]As read from the original box and from this site.
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Shade Widow
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Posted - 2004.08.12 16:30:00 -
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Edited by: Shade Widow on 12/08/2004 16:32:42
Some of you excuse what im about to say
Roshan HOLY APOC YOU GOT IT! you got it 100%
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Shade Widow
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Posted - 2004.08.12 16:30:00 -
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Edited by: Shade Widow on 12/08/2004 16:32:42
Some of you excuse what im about to say
Roshan HOLY APOC YOU GOT IT! you got it 100%
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Gift
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Posted - 2004.08.12 17:27:00 -
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i imagine this is just in response to
Earlier Post
though i don't think this one is a ammusing, no offence intended Greystar.
Unfortunetly the all the *****ing is the same 
just relax people
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Gift
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Posted - 2004.08.12 17:27:00 -
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i imagine this is just in response to
Earlier Post
though i don't think this one is a ammusing, no offence intended Greystar.
Unfortunetly the all the *****ing is the same
just relax people
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Akela
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Posted - 2004.08.12 19:46:00 -
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 Originally by: FuPhal
Yeah... carebears sux they all whine too much and claim to be the only people that support the market etc etc and if they werent there then the whole EVE economy would collapse....
Carebears... get over ureselfs pls :P
Yeah... pirates sux they all whine too much and claim to be the only people that support the market etc etc and if they werent there then the whole EVE economy would collapse....
Pirates... get over ureselfs pls :P
I guess it depends on your point of view eh? (and not the point on your head  )
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Akela
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Posted - 2004.08.12 19:46:00 -
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Originally by: FuPhal
Yeah... carebears sux they all whine too much and claim to be the only people that support the market etc etc and if they werent there then the whole EVE economy would collapse....
Carebears... get over ureselfs pls :P
Yeah... pirates sux they all whine too much and claim to be the only people that support the market etc etc and if they werent there then the whole EVE economy would collapse....
Pirates... get over ureselfs pls :P
I guess it depends on your point of view eh? (and not the point on your head )
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Don Caana
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Posted - 2004.08.12 20:02:00 -
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Well, I gotta admit that I respect a pirate who at least is open about the fact that he is a low-life. However, it is the "semi-pirates" whose bull**t I would not care to listen.
Our corp was attacked by a "mercenary" corp a day ago. While they are not much of a threat, I really wonder why on earth they actually chose us.
[ 2004.08.12 02:44:57 ] -> Istvaan Shogaatsu has joined the channel
[ 2004.08.12 02:45:10 ] Bill Preston > hi...
[ 2004.08.12 02:45:17 ] Istvaan Shogaatsu > Hello, Bill.
[ 2004.08.12 02:45:42 ] Bill Preston > so, may i ask why u have declared war on us
[ 2004.08.12 02:46:17 ] Istvaan Shogaatsu > Well, to put it plainly, your corporation angered another corporation who paid us a small sum of money to deal with you.
[ 2004.08.12 02:46:54 ] Bill Preston > hmmm, i presume ur not gonna let on as to who paid u
[ 2004.08.12 02:47:07 ] Istvaan Shogaatsu > We've been asked by our client to keep that information confidential for now.
[ 2004.08.12 02:47:23 ] Istvaan Shogaatsu > We can however tell you this: It's because your miners share space with their miners.
[ 2004.08.12 02:47:35 ] Istvaan Shogaatsu > They seem to want to remove you due to competition.
[ 2004.08.12 02:48:22 ] Bill Preston > well u can tell them we can be halted temporarily but not removed entirely
[ 2004.08.12 02:49:36 ] Istvaan Shogaatsu > We will pass that message along, however we've been contracted to neutralize Firma as a corporate entity.
[ 2004.08.12 02:51:03 ] Bill Preston > well u have a job on ur hands, we will never back down.
[ 2004.08.12 02:51:25 ] Istvaan Shogaatsu > We don't need you to back down.
[ 2004.08.12 02:51:44 ] Istvaan Shogaatsu > Merely cease large-scale operations as a corporate entity and thus no longer compete with our client.
[ 2004.08.12 02:51:54 ] Bill Preston > we have no intention of meeting in a all out attack on your corp but we will have no choice but to defend ourselves
[ 2004.08.12 02:52:17 ] Istvaan Shogaatsu > We understand.
[ 2004.08.12 02:52:28 ] Bill Preston > im sorry, to survive and make profit...large mining op's are a must, we cannot halt them
[ 2004.08.12 02:53:19 ] Istvaan Shogaatsu > We understand. However to survive and make profit, we must fulfill our contract to the best of our ability.
[ 2004.08.12 02:53:38 ] Istvaan Shogaatsu > This includes suppressing any operations undertaken by your corporation during the duration of this contract.
[ 2004.08.12 02:53:57 ] Bill Preston > yes, i understand, two corps doing their jobs.
[ 2004.08.12 02:54:32 ] Istvaan Shogaatsu > To be frank, the easiest way out of this for your group would be to disband. That way we get paid in full, and you continue your lives without pressure by us.
[ 2004.08.12 02:55:47 ] Bill Preston > we will never disband, i, aswel as others, have worked to hard for too ong to get to where we are now, im not going to give it all up for a cowardly corp that cannot fight its own battles
[ 2004.08.12 02:56:50 ] Istvaan Shogaatsu > I understand.
[ 2004.08.12 02:57:37 ] Bill Preston > i regret our conflict but if thats ur way i must accept the after shock
[ 2004.08.12 02:58:08 ] Istvaan Shogaatsu > Well, who knows. This war might be fun for you in some ways.
[ 2004.08.12 02:58:27 ] Istvaan Shogaatsu > Anyway, if you have any further questions or wish to request parley, feel free to contact me.
[ 2004.08.12 02:59:51 ] Bill Preston > ok, how long does the contract last for?
[ 2004.08.12 03:00:09 ] Istvaan Shogaatsu > Until FIRMA ceases to function as a corporate entity.
[ 2004.08.12 03:00:21 ] Bill Preston > this could last a while
[ 2004.08.12 03:00:32 ] Istvaan Shogaatsu > It usually takes us two weeks at the most.
[ 2004.08.12 03:01:14 ] Bill Preston > can we buy your corp out of this contract?
[ 2004.08.12 03:01:45 ] Istvaan Shogaatsu > We'd have to ask our client.
[ 2004.08.12 03:02:16 ] Bill Preston > im asking u, how much it would cost to stop the war
[ 2004.08.12 03:03:28 ] Istvaan Shogaatsu > Hmm. Our client pays 200 million ISK plus 5 million for every pilot podded. I guess the cost would be around 200 mil, or two battleships. We generally don't do this sort of thing.
[ 2004.08.12 03:04:26 ] Bill Preston > 200 million u say, i will have to take this up with my CEO and the directors
[ 2004.08.12 03:04:46 ] Istvaan Shogaatsu > We'd really have to clear it with the client. Our professional reputation hinges on doing what our contract specifies. Would you like me to inquire about this?
[ 2004.08.12 03:06:14 ] Bill Preston > all im asking is what price ur corp is willing to accept to ignore any further requests from your client and cease this war
[ 2004.08.12 03:06:44 ] Istvaan Shogaatsu > I guess that would be it. 200 mil, or equivalent value in major spaceborne assets.
[ 2004.08.12 03:08:35 ] Bill Preston > right, i will have to meet with our senior members but i say again..FIRMA will never fall.
[ 2004.08.12 03:09:20 ] Istvaan Shogaatsu > I understand. Our client
-Freedom, Peace and Prosperity. |
Don Caana
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Posted - 2004.08.12 20:02:00 -
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Well, I gotta admit that I respect a pirate who at least is open about the fact that he is a low-life. However, it is the "semi-pirates" whose bull**t I would not care to listen.
Our corp was attacked by a "mercenary" corp a day ago. While they are not much of a threat, I really wonder why on earth they actually chose us.
[ 2004.08.12 02:44:57 ] -> Istvaan Shogaatsu has joined the channel
[ 2004.08.12 02:45:10 ] Bill Preston > hi...
[ 2004.08.12 02:45:17 ] Istvaan Shogaatsu > Hello, Bill.
[ 2004.08.12 02:45:42 ] Bill Preston > so, may i ask why u have declared war on us
[ 2004.08.12 02:46:17 ] Istvaan Shogaatsu > Well, to put it plainly, your corporation angered another corporation who paid us a small sum of money to deal with you.
[ 2004.08.12 02:46:54 ] Bill Preston > hmmm, i presume ur not gonna let on as to who paid u
[ 2004.08.12 02:47:07 ] Istvaan Shogaatsu > We've been asked by our client to keep that information confidential for now.
[ 2004.08.12 02:47:23 ] Istvaan Shogaatsu > We can however tell you this: It's because your miners share space with their miners.
[ 2004.08.12 02:47:35 ] Istvaan Shogaatsu > They seem to want to remove you due to competition.
[ 2004.08.12 02:48:22 ] Bill Preston > well u can tell them we can be halted temporarily but not removed entirely
[ 2004.08.12 02:49:36 ] Istvaan Shogaatsu > We will pass that message along, however we've been contracted to neutralize Firma as a corporate entity.
[ 2004.08.12 02:51:03 ] Bill Preston > well u have a job on ur hands, we will never back down.
[ 2004.08.12 02:51:25 ] Istvaan Shogaatsu > We don't need you to back down.
[ 2004.08.12 02:51:44 ] Istvaan Shogaatsu > Merely cease large-scale operations as a corporate entity and thus no longer compete with our client.
[ 2004.08.12 02:51:54 ] Bill Preston > we have no intention of meeting in a all out attack on your corp but we will have no choice but to defend ourselves
[ 2004.08.12 02:52:17 ] Istvaan Shogaatsu > We understand.
[ 2004.08.12 02:52:28 ] Bill Preston > im sorry, to survive and make profit...large mining op's are a must, we cannot halt them
[ 2004.08.12 02:53:19 ] Istvaan Shogaatsu > We understand. However to survive and make profit, we must fulfill our contract to the best of our ability.
[ 2004.08.12 02:53:38 ] Istvaan Shogaatsu > This includes suppressing any operations undertaken by your corporation during the duration of this contract.
[ 2004.08.12 02:53:57 ] Bill Preston > yes, i understand, two corps doing their jobs.
[ 2004.08.12 02:54:32 ] Istvaan Shogaatsu > To be frank, the easiest way out of this for your group would be to disband. That way we get paid in full, and you continue your lives without pressure by us.
[ 2004.08.12 02:55:47 ] Bill Preston > we will never disband, i, aswel as others, have worked to hard for too ong to get to where we are now, im not going to give it all up for a cowardly corp that cannot fight its own battles
[ 2004.08.12 02:56:50 ] Istvaan Shogaatsu > I understand.
[ 2004.08.12 02:57:37 ] Bill Preston > i regret our conflict but if thats ur way i must accept the after shock
[ 2004.08.12 02:58:08 ] Istvaan Shogaatsu > Well, who knows. This war might be fun for you in some ways.
[ 2004.08.12 02:58:27 ] Istvaan Shogaatsu > Anyway, if you have any further questions or wish to request parley, feel free to contact me.
[ 2004.08.12 02:59:51 ] Bill Preston > ok, how long does the contract last for?
[ 2004.08.12 03:00:09 ] Istvaan Shogaatsu > Until FIRMA ceases to function as a corporate entity.
[ 2004.08.12 03:00:21 ] Bill Preston > this could last a while
[ 2004.08.12 03:00:32 ] Istvaan Shogaatsu > It usually takes us two weeks at the most.
[ 2004.08.12 03:01:14 ] Bill Preston > can we buy your corp out of this contract?
[ 2004.08.12 03:01:45 ] Istvaan Shogaatsu > We'd have to ask our client.
[ 2004.08.12 03:02:16 ] Bill Preston > im asking u, how much it would cost to stop the war
[ 2004.08.12 03:03:28 ] Istvaan Shogaatsu > Hmm. Our client pays 200 million ISK plus 5 million for every pilot podded. I guess the cost would be around 200 mil, or two battleships. We generally don't do this sort of thing.
[ 2004.08.12 03:04:26 ] Bill Preston > 200 million u say, i will have to take this up with my CEO and the directors
[ 2004.08.12 03:04:46 ] Istvaan Shogaatsu > We'd really have to clear it with the client. Our professional reputation hinges on doing what our contract specifies. Would you like me to inquire about this?
[ 2004.08.12 03:06:14 ] Bill Preston > all im asking is what price ur corp is willing to accept to ignore any further requests from your client and cease this war
[ 2004.08.12 03:06:44 ] Istvaan Shogaatsu > I guess that would be it. 200 mil, or equivalent value in major spaceborne assets.
[ 2004.08.12 03:08:35 ] Bill Preston > right, i will have to meet with our senior members but i say again..FIRMA will never fall.
[ 2004.08.12 03:09:20 ] Istvaan Shogaatsu > I understand. Our client
-Freedom, Peace and Prosperity. |
Don Caana
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Posted - 2004.08.12 20:08:00 -
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that goes on for a while more. Seems more like a "war for fun" upon us, either on their behalf (the customer may be imaginary) or then they actually have a corp out there that has delusions of grandeur and thinks that this is a sane "business move"
For those that do not know, Firma does not mine in 0.0 space, nor does is control any territory. The prices this "unknown corp" is claimed to pay for my head is ridiculous, as my head is no-where near that value.
Any good old time pirates out there that actually are still willing to admit that they kill people for the fun of it, and not come up with a lame-ass excuse for what man has done to fellow man for as long as man has been?
-Freedom, Peace and Prosperity. |
Don Caana
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Posted - 2004.08.12 20:08:00 -
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that goes on for a while more. Seems more like a "war for fun" upon us, either on their behalf (the customer may be imaginary) or then they actually have a corp out there that has delusions of grandeur and thinks that this is a sane "business move"
For those that do not know, Firma does not mine in 0.0 space, nor does is control any territory. The prices this "unknown corp" is claimed to pay for my head is ridiculous, as my head is no-where near that value.
Any good old time pirates out there that actually are still willing to admit that they kill people for the fun of it, and not come up with a lame-ass excuse for what man has done to fellow man for as long as man has been?
-Freedom, Peace and Prosperity. |
Wyckoff
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Posted - 2004.08.12 21:00:00 -
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Istvaan Shogaatsu seemed like a polite chap; very professional and not overly apologetic.
Anywho...this topic was about gross generalizations, stereotypes, baiting and tom-trollery, yes?
Outside the baiting and the tom-trollery, which has a purpose even though you may not agree with it, the rest stems from a general misallocation of intellect otherwise known as ignorance.
There is a player built ecology in EVE. It goes by different names:
Supply and Demand for Manufactures and miners.
A Food Chain for Pirates.
The Fuedal System for Alliances.
or as Elton John so aptly put it: The Circle of Life. And, yes, it moves us all in different directions but runs us the same way.
Pirates need Miners, not because they produce Minerals, but to be a Pirate you need to have a prey.
Miners need Alliances, not simply for protection against Pirates but for the steady stream of ships that Alliances go through.
Alliances need Pirates, otherwise Alliances are nothing but Pirates. Without the "Anarchy" and "Lawlessness" of the random Pirate, there is no need to protect anything and then we all go back to being miners.
We all have a purpose in the game. The only true Carebears should be those who don't play the game, but play the system for their own benefit (logging, etc.). All others, whether they be 1.0 Miners, 0.4 gate campers or 0.0 PvP's have their own unique goodness.
Now, lets all gather together for a great big hug!
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Wyckoff
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Posted - 2004.08.12 21:00:00 -
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Istvaan Shogaatsu seemed like a polite chap; very professional and not overly apologetic.
Anywho...this topic was about gross generalizations, stereotypes, baiting and tom-trollery, yes?
Outside the baiting and the tom-trollery, which has a purpose even though you may not agree with it, the rest stems from a general misallocation of intellect otherwise known as ignorance.
There is a player built ecology in EVE. It goes by different names:
Supply and Demand for Manufactures and miners.
A Food Chain for Pirates.
The Fuedal System for Alliances.
or as Elton John so aptly put it: The Circle of Life. And, yes, it moves us all in different directions but runs us the same way.
Pirates need Miners, not because they produce Minerals, but to be a Pirate you need to have a prey.
Miners need Alliances, not simply for protection against Pirates but for the steady stream of ships that Alliances go through.
Alliances need Pirates, otherwise Alliances are nothing but Pirates. Without the "Anarchy" and "Lawlessness" of the random Pirate, there is no need to protect anything and then we all go back to being miners.
We all have a purpose in the game. The only true Carebears should be those who don't play the game, but play the system for their own benefit (logging, etc.). All others, whether they be 1.0 Miners, 0.4 gate campers or 0.0 PvP's have their own unique goodness.
Now, lets all gather together for a great big hug!
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2004.08.13 01:28:00 -
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The only thing i hate about carebears is their terrbile smack talk...i know thats a sweeping generalisation, but its just my experience.
Secondly, I dont really care how other people play the game, just once we can all have fun playing that game, but its usually some carebears that want to hurt the pvp part of the game just for the sake of hurting the pvper community, just look at the replies to posts about sentrys shooting criminal flagged players and youll see.
At the original poster, i can see why people want to earn isk as its another way of being better amd leveling, but what i cant see is how people can mine all day everyday...but again i dont care if people do that, It just doesnt appeal to me at all (unless its bistot and maybe for a day or two )
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2004.08.13 01:28:00 -
[40]
The only thing i hate about carebears is their terrbile smack talk...i know thats a sweeping generalisation, but its just my experience.
Secondly, I dont really care how other people play the game, just once we can all have fun playing that game, but its usually some carebears that want to hurt the pvp part of the game just for the sake of hurting the pvper community, just look at the replies to posts about sentrys shooting criminal flagged players and youll see.
At the original poster, i can see why people want to earn isk as its another way of being better amd leveling, but what i cant see is how people can mine all day everyday...but again i dont care if people do that, It just doesnt appeal to me at all (unless its bistot and maybe for a day or two)
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NodFire11
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Posted - 2004.08.13 07:17:00 -
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cool
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NodFire11
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Posted - 2004.08.13 07:17:00 -
[42]
cool
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FuPhal
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Posted - 2004.08.13 08:01:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Akela
Originally by: FuPhal
Yeah... carebears sux they all whine too much and claim to be the only people that support the market etc etc and if they werent there then the whole EVE economy would collapse....
Carebears... get over ureselfs pls :P
Yeah... pirates sux they all whine too much and claim to be the only people that support the market etc etc and if they werent there then the whole EVE economy would collapse....
Pirates... get over ureselfs pls :P
I guess it depends on your point of view eh? (and not the point on your head )
Sorry, i cant say ive ever noticed any pirates claiming to be the only group of people single handedly supporting the economy :P thats just a carebear thing ;)
Pirates however do make claims to be the big isk sinks in the game :) which i spose we are but thats not really the reason were pirates :P
If you dont believe me then just read through the posts here and see how many people write how screwed pirates would be without anyone to make us ships cos we cant make our own ones? :p lol
Carebaers aer the omgwtfsuq :P lol
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FuPhal
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Posted - 2004.08.13 08:01:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Akela
Originally by: FuPhal
Yeah... carebears sux they all whine too much and claim to be the only people that support the market etc etc and if they werent there then the whole EVE economy would collapse....
Carebears... get over ureselfs pls :P
Yeah... pirates sux they all whine too much and claim to be the only people that support the market etc etc and if they werent there then the whole EVE economy would collapse....
Pirates... get over ureselfs pls :P
I guess it depends on your point of view eh? (and not the point on your head )
Sorry, i cant say ive ever noticed any pirates claiming to be the only group of people single handedly supporting the economy :P thats just a carebear thing ;)
Pirates however do make claims to be the big isk sinks in the game :) which i spose we are but thats not really the reason were pirates :P
If you dont believe me then just read through the posts here and see how many people write how screwed pirates would be without anyone to make us ships cos we cant make our own ones? :p lol
Carebaers aer the omgwtfsuq :P lol
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Qutsemnie
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Posted - 2004.08.13 08:42:00 -
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Quote:
Yeah... pirates sux they all whine too much and claim to be the only people that support the market etc etc and if they werent there then the whole EVE economy would collapse....
Naw. Pirates claim to be the only reason anyone has any fun in Eve and that everyone would quit without them.
Yes they can still get over themselves...
Strangely this armageddon of alliance wars they are stearing to formulizing looks like more fun then getting ganked by some tard sitting at a gate when im trying to travel.
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Qutsemnie
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Posted - 2004.08.13 08:42:00 -
[46]
Quote:
Yeah... pirates sux they all whine too much and claim to be the only people that support the market etc etc and if they werent there then the whole EVE economy would collapse....
Naw. Pirates claim to be the only reason anyone has any fun in Eve and that everyone would quit without them.
Yes they can still get over themselves...
Strangely this armageddon of alliance wars they are stearing to formulizing looks like more fun then getting ganked by some tard sitting at a gate when im trying to travel.
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FuPhal
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Posted - 2004.08.13 10:20:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Qutsemnie
Quote:
Yeah... pirates sux they all whine too much and claim to be the only people that support the market etc etc and if they werent there then the whole EVE economy would collapse....
Naw. Pirates claim to be the only reason anyone has any fun in Eve and that everyone would quit without them.
Yes they can still get over themselves...
Strangely this armageddon of alliance wars they are stearing to formulizing looks like more fun then getting ganked by some tard sitting at a gate when im trying to travel.
Nonononono, uve got it all wrong :P
Carebears are the only reason pirates have fun :D
Quote:
Strangely this armageddon of alliance wars they are stearing to formulizing looks like more fun then getting ganked by some tard sitting at a gate when im trying to travel
lol yeah! damm inconsiderate pirates! next time u see them in local just tellem ure travelling and to leave u alone :) im sure theyll be nice.
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FuPhal
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Posted - 2004.08.13 10:20:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Qutsemnie
Quote:
Yeah... pirates sux they all whine too much and claim to be the only people that support the market etc etc and if they werent there then the whole EVE economy would collapse....
Naw. Pirates claim to be the only reason anyone has any fun in Eve and that everyone would quit without them.
Yes they can still get over themselves...
Strangely this armageddon of alliance wars they are stearing to formulizing looks like more fun then getting ganked by some tard sitting at a gate when im trying to travel.
Nonononono, uve got it all wrong :P
Carebears are the only reason pirates have fun :D
Quote:
Strangely this armageddon of alliance wars they are stearing to formulizing looks like more fun then getting ganked by some tard sitting at a gate when im trying to travel
lol yeah! damm inconsiderate pirates! next time u see them in local just tellem ure travelling and to leave u alone :) im sure theyll be nice.
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Don Caana
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Posted - 2004.08.13 11:19:00 -
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Actually, I personally am not complaining about the whole carebear, pirate, alliance thing, as I can openly say that I am a carebear. I don't really give a **** whether I support the economy or not, I just do that because it gets me that buck, just as a pirate does his thing for his buck.
However, I dispise factions that refuse to openly admit that they are playerkillers, pirates and criminals.
A faction that claims to be a mercenary faction and declares war on a peaceful organization that has never threatened anyone cannot hide behind a claim that some unknown entity has hired them to do their dirty job.
Every terrorist works for somebody. That does not make them "just guys doing their jobs", it makes them terrorists.
Can we all say out aloud: "My name is Bob, and I am a terrorist"
Is it not better to get it out into the open? Out of your system? I mean, they could at least admit that they shoot at you because they only had one toy when they were children and even that one got stuck behind the radiator.
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Don Caana
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Posted - 2004.08.13 11:19:00 -
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Actually, I personally am not complaining about the whole carebear, pirate, alliance thing, as I can openly say that I am a carebear. I don't really give a **** whether I support the economy or not, I just do that because it gets me that buck, just as a pirate does his thing for his buck.
However, I dispise factions that refuse to openly admit that they are playerkillers, pirates and criminals.
A faction that claims to be a mercenary faction and declares war on a peaceful organization that has never threatened anyone cannot hide behind a claim that some unknown entity has hired them to do their dirty job.
Every terrorist works for somebody. That does not make them "just guys doing their jobs", it makes them terrorists.
Can we all say out aloud: "My name is Bob, and I am a terrorist"
Is it not better to get it out into the open? Out of your system? I mean, they could at least admit that they shoot at you because they only had one toy when they were children and even that one got stuck behind the radiator.
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FuPhal
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Posted - 2004.08.13 11:24:00 -
[51]
I actually dont care about any of this but im just pretending so ive got something to say on these forums :P
Otherwise im bored at work :E
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FuPhal
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Posted - 2004.08.13 11:24:00 -
[52]
I actually dont care about any of this but im just pretending so ive got something to say on these forums :P
Otherwise im bored at work :E
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Randuin MaraL
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Posted - 2004.08.13 11:46:00 -
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Originally by: Don Caana
Can we all say out aloud: "My name is Bob, and I am a terrorist"
I am Randuin MaraL and PIE/CVA called me a terrorist. What now?
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Never be in the company of anyone with whom you would not want to die.
MEDUSA veteran, Khumaak Award winner |
Randuin MaraL
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Posted - 2004.08.13 11:46:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Don Caana
Can we all say out aloud: "My name is Bob, and I am a terrorist"
I am Randuin MaraL and PIE/CVA called me a terrorist. What now?
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Never be in the company of anyone with whom you would not want to die.
MEDUSA veteran, Khumaak Award winner |
Shade Widow
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Posted - 2004.08.13 12:16:00 -
[55]
Originally by: FuPhal
I actually dont care about any of this but im just pretending so ive got something to say on these forums :P
Otherwise im bored at work :E
You and me must be long lost brothers.
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Shade Widow
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Posted - 2004.08.13 12:16:00 -
[56]
Originally by: FuPhal
I actually dont care about any of this but im just pretending so ive got something to say on these forums :P
Otherwise im bored at work :E
You and me must be long lost brothers.
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Reebo77
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Posted - 2004.08.13 13:55:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Don Caana
they only had one toy when they were children and even that one got stuck behind the radiator.
Yeah, radiators are terrible for that, big white toy muchers they are 
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Reebo77
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Posted - 2004.08.13 13:55:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Don Caana
they only had one toy when they were children and even that one got stuck behind the radiator.
Yeah, radiators are terrible for that, big white toy muchers they are
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Frost88
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Posted - 2004.08.13 14:17:00 -
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I know and accept that we need the miners to bring in our ore e.t.c. The argument is how can people enjoy this kind of game? Where they just mine and mine and get more ISK. There are miners out there who grew into large, powerful industrial corps, like NAGA, Xanadu or RONA, who hold a lot of sway in the game, and aren't afraid to kick some ass if need be. Then you have those who have no such goals and just keep making money. But people do it so I guess some fun is involved, depends on who you are.
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I've always owned Kehmor, cheap as chips off Ebay
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Frost88
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Posted - 2004.08.13 14:17:00 -
[60]
I know and accept that we need the miners to bring in our ore e.t.c. The argument is how can people enjoy this kind of game? Where they just mine and mine and get more ISK. There are miners out there who grew into large, powerful industrial corps, like NAGA, Xanadu or RONA, who hold a lot of sway in the game, and aren't afraid to kick some ass if need be. Then you have those who have no such goals and just keep making money. But people do it so I guess some fun is involved, depends on who you are.
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Attrael
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Posted - 2004.08.13 18:45:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Frost88
I know and accept that we need the miners to bring in our ore e.t.c. The argument is how can people enjoy this kind of game? Where they just mine and mine and get more ISK. There are miners out there who grew into large, powerful industrial corps, like NAGA, Xanadu or RONA, who hold a lot of sway in the game, and aren't afraid to kick some ass if need be. Then you have those who have no such goals and just keep making money. But people do it so I guess some fun is involved, depends on who you are.
And the other side of the coin is there are a lot of people who don't understand how anyone could find it fun to ruin several hours of someone else's effort. Never mind being able to live with themselves after doing it.
Most likely they were bullied as children and are venting their frustrations through the game. It's the only logical reason to purposely seek to hurt someone.
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Attrael
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Posted - 2004.08.13 18:45:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Frost88
I know and accept that we need the miners to bring in our ore e.t.c. The argument is how can people enjoy this kind of game? Where they just mine and mine and get more ISK. There are miners out there who grew into large, powerful industrial corps, like NAGA, Xanadu or RONA, who hold a lot of sway in the game, and aren't afraid to kick some ass if need be. Then you have those who have no such goals and just keep making money. But people do it so I guess some fun is involved, depends on who you are.
And the other side of the coin is there are a lot of people who don't understand how anyone could find it fun to ruin several hours of someone else's effort. Never mind being able to live with themselves after doing it.
Most likely they were bullied as children and are venting their frustrations through the game. It's the only logical reason to purposely seek to hurt someone.
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Koda
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Posted - 2004.08.13 20:11:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Attrael
And the other side of the coin is there are a lot of people who don't understand how anyone could find it fun to ruin several hours of someone else's effort. Never mind being able to live with themselves after doing it.
Most likely they were bullied as children and are venting their frustrations through the game. It's the only logical reason to purposely seek to hurt someone.
What about people who aggress other players because they can? Because CCP created a frame work that supports Pvp, and those players choose to utilize it? I'm not talking about sentry-tanking 1.0 slaughterfests, but about those who hunt in 0.4 and below systems, take their criminal flags/reduced security status without *****ing and follow the rules.
You paint all pirates as being psychologically defective misfits because you appear to attach a RL moral code to a GAME and assume that a pirate's motivation is hurting the other player. I hate to shatter your delusion but in RL I have no misplaced aggression needing a vent. To me, Eve is just a game, RL morality never enters the picture.
I don't question a player's sanity because they choose to cut rock all day. If that makes them happy, more power to them.
But I bristle a little when people insist on making ridiculous RL generalizations about players based on the legitamate in-game career they chose for their character. |
Koda
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Posted - 2004.08.13 20:11:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Attrael
And the other side of the coin is there are a lot of people who don't understand how anyone could find it fun to ruin several hours of someone else's effort. Never mind being able to live with themselves after doing it.
Most likely they were bullied as children and are venting their frustrations through the game. It's the only logical reason to purposely seek to hurt someone.
What about people who aggress other players because they can? Because CCP created a frame work that supports Pvp, and those players choose to utilize it? I'm not talking about sentry-tanking 1.0 slaughterfests, but about those who hunt in 0.4 and below systems, take their criminal flags/reduced security status without *****ing and follow the rules.
You paint all pirates as being psychologically defective misfits because you appear to attach a RL moral code to a GAME and assume that a pirate's motivation is hurting the other player. I hate to shatter your delusion but in RL I have no misplaced aggression needing a vent. To me, Eve is just a game, RL morality never enters the picture.
I don't question a player's sanity because they choose to cut rock all day. If that makes them happy, more power to them.
But I bristle a little when people insist on making ridiculous RL generalizations about players based on the legitamate in-game career they chose for their character. |
Attrael
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Posted - 2004.08.13 20:56:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Koda
I hate to shatter your delusion but in RL I have no misplaced aggression needing a vent.
Your response betrays you by saying otherwise. But that's ok, I'll forgive you. Denial and self rationalization are usually the first two stages that a jerk goes through as they sink lower into the pit of 'random shocking violence meted arbitrarily'.
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Attrael
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Posted - 2004.08.13 20:56:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Koda
I hate to shatter your delusion but in RL I have no misplaced aggression needing a vent.
Your response betrays you by saying otherwise. But that's ok, I'll forgive you. Denial and self rationalization are usually the first two stages that a jerk goes through as they sink lower into the pit of 'random shocking violence meted arbitrarily'.
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Koda
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Posted - 2004.08.13 21:13:00 -
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Quote:
Hate the game, not the player
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Koda
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Posted - 2004.08.13 21:13:00 -
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Quote:
Hate the game, not the player
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Share the love in the SNIGG Forums
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Attrael
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Posted - 2004.08.13 21:23:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Koda
Quote:
Hate the game, not the player
But I WANT to hate the player. Then I have an excuse to throw out random shocking insults at players so I can get more warnings on my account! Isn't it that the player with the most warnings Wins Eve?
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Attrael
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Posted - 2004.08.13 21:23:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Koda
Quote:
Hate the game, not the player
But I WANT to hate the player. Then I have an excuse to throw out random shocking insults at players so I can get more warnings on my account! Isn't it that the player with the most warnings Wins Eve?
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splattercat
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Posted - 2004.08.14 00:57:00 -
[71]
This post just made my top 10 most "wht did i bother reading this cr@p post lists"!!
This is eve.. there are many diffrant ways to play this GAME ffs, We are ALL ppl, and to blanket 20% say with YOU ARE LIKE THIS lable sucks.. Get on with it play this game your way,OK if u get Pirated,,,sorry that is part of the game,if u can not pirate in empire,same thing, Get over it and have fun....,not everyone wants to play how u do
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splattercat
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Posted - 2004.08.14 00:57:00 -
[72]
This post just made my top 10 most "wht did i bother reading this cr@p post lists"!!
This is eve.. there are many diffrant ways to play this GAME ffs, We are ALL ppl, and to blanket 20% say with YOU ARE LIKE THIS lable sucks.. Get on with it play this game your way,OK if u get Pirated,,,sorry that is part of the game,if u can not pirate in empire,same thing, Get over it and have fun....,not everyone wants to play how u do
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Wolf DeRainger
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Posted - 2004.08.14 06:54:00 -
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Jez! What's the fuss. It's a game! Nothing else. I'm a carebear and proud of it, it's what rocks my boat. Yesterday I got 'splashed' by some KROM members. If it had been anybody else I'd have said it was a good take down too.
But anyway. I lost a Stower, and a fair chunk of minerals. But nothing that a day or so's play will not fix. They didn't take away the fun I had getting them, killing NPC rats and group mining in low sec areas.
People should lighten up and remember it's just a game. I lost a ship and some isk. But I also learnt some importent lessons about not taking an Indy fitted with lots of CE's and crammed with goodies into low sec space.
Keep having fun guys, no matter what side of the line you play
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Wolf DeRainger
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Posted - 2004.08.14 06:54:00 -
[74]
Jez! What's the fuss. It's a game! Nothing else. I'm a carebear and proud of it, it's what rocks my boat. Yesterday I got 'splashed' by some KROM members. If it had been anybody else I'd have said it was a good take down too.
But anyway. I lost a Stower, and a fair chunk of minerals. But nothing that a day or so's play will not fix. They didn't take away the fun I had getting them, killing NPC rats and group mining in low sec areas.
People should lighten up and remember it's just a game. I lost a ship and some isk. But I also learnt some importent lessons about not taking an Indy fitted with lots of CE's and crammed with goodies into low sec space.
Keep having fun guys, no matter what side of the line you play
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Lustralis
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Posted - 2004.08.14 11:10:00 -
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I think the reason pirate psychology is so interesting is because it is anti-social (in a psychological sense) with respect to societal norms (I mean err, empire norms, because it isn't particularly "abnormal" in 0.0!) - I mean societal not IRL respect, but in game ;) It is essentially negative action (destruction), with respect to the victims and so is interesting. Carebearism is not so interesting, because that is more like RL (unless you live in Sunderland).
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Lustralis
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Posted - 2004.08.14 11:10:00 -
[76]
I think the reason pirate psychology is so interesting is because it is anti-social (in a psychological sense) with respect to societal norms (I mean err, empire norms, because it isn't particularly "abnormal" in 0.0!) - I mean societal not IRL respect, but in game ;) It is essentially negative action (destruction), with respect to the victims and so is interesting. Carebearism is not so interesting, because that is more like RL (unless you live in Sunderland).
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2004.08.14 16:34:00 -
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In response to Don Caana, you and your corporation are the only ones claiming that we're griefers. This is a pretty natural reaction to being attacked, as griefer is the word for aggressor on the lips of all carebears. Just because our client asked us not to tell you who he is doesn't mean we're killing you for kicks. Do you think fighting people whose corporate policy is "evade at all costs" is somehow fun? Believe me, with the staggering amount of cowardice displayed by your corporation, we'd much rather be doing something else rather than hovering outside stations for hours on end.
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2004.08.14 16:34:00 -
[78]
In response to Don Caana, you and your corporation are the only ones claiming that we're griefers. This is a pretty natural reaction to being attacked, as griefer is the word for aggressor on the lips of all carebears. Just because our client asked us not to tell you who he is doesn't mean we're killing you for kicks. Do you think fighting people whose corporate policy is "evade at all costs" is somehow fun? Believe me, with the staggering amount of cowardice displayed by your corporation, we'd much rather be doing something else rather than hovering outside stations for hours on end.
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Hanse Davion
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Posted - 2004.08.14 18:39:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Wyckoff
Istvaan Shogaatsu seemed like a polite chap; very professional and not overly apologetic.
Anywho...this topic was about gross generalizations, stereotypes, baiting and tom-trollery, yes?
Outside the baiting and the tom-trollery, which has a purpose even though you may not agree with it, the rest stems from a general misallocation of intellect otherwise known as ignorance.
There is a player built ecology in EVE. It goes by different names:
Supply and Demand for Manufactures and miners.
A Food Chain for Pirates.
The Fuedal System for Alliances.
or as Elton John so aptly put it: The Circle of Life. And, yes, it moves us all in different directions but runs us the same way.
Pirates need Miners, not because they produce Minerals, but to be a Pirate you need to have a prey.
Miners need Alliances, not simply for protection against Pirates but for the steady stream of ships that Alliances go through.
Alliances need Pirates, otherwise Alliances are nothing but Pirates. Without the "Anarchy" and "Lawlessness" of the random Pirate, there is no need to protect anything and then we all go back to being miners.
We all have a purpose in the game. The only true Carebears should be those who don't play the game, but play the system for their own benefit (logging, etc.). All others, whether they be 1.0 Miners, 0.4 gate campers or 0.0 PvP's have their own unique goodness.
Now, lets all gather together for a great big hug!
Damn dude, I have never seen it put so well. May I quote you in the future?
2005.01.21 05:09:06combatYour Tachyon Beam Laser I perfectly strikes Blood Priest, wrecking for 533.1 damage. |
Hanse Davion
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Posted - 2004.08.14 18:39:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Wyckoff
Istvaan Shogaatsu seemed like a polite chap; very professional and not overly apologetic.
Anywho...this topic was about gross generalizations, stereotypes, baiting and tom-trollery, yes?
Outside the baiting and the tom-trollery, which has a purpose even though you may not agree with it, the rest stems from a general misallocation of intellect otherwise known as ignorance.
There is a player built ecology in EVE. It goes by different names:
Supply and Demand for Manufactures and miners.
A Food Chain for Pirates.
The Fuedal System for Alliances.
or as Elton John so aptly put it: The Circle of Life. And, yes, it moves us all in different directions but runs us the same way.
Pirates need Miners, not because they produce Minerals, but to be a Pirate you need to have a prey.
Miners need Alliances, not simply for protection against Pirates but for the steady stream of ships that Alliances go through.
Alliances need Pirates, otherwise Alliances are nothing but Pirates. Without the "Anarchy" and "Lawlessness" of the random Pirate, there is no need to protect anything and then we all go back to being miners.
We all have a purpose in the game. The only true Carebears should be those who don't play the game, but play the system for their own benefit (logging, etc.). All others, whether they be 1.0 Miners, 0.4 gate campers or 0.0 PvP's have their own unique goodness.
Now, lets all gather together for a great big hug!
Damn dude, I have never seen it put so well. May I quote you in the future?
2005.01.21 05:09:06combatYour Tachyon Beam Laser I perfectly strikes Blood Priest, wrecking for 533.1 damage. |
BigDave
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Posted - 2004.08.15 18:52:00 -
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Istvaan,
I'm sorry if any members have accused you privately of griefing - something which I detest but you are not doing - but FIRMA as a whole does not believe you are griefing. Yes, you are attacking us. No, we do not enjoy being attacked. I'm glad to hear you aren't finding it fun, however; our admitted hope is that you eventually don't find this "proxy" war (which I for one do not believe is anything more than an extortion attempt) worthwhile. Time will tell who has more patience...
But as for griefing, I would have petitioned you in a heartbeat if that was what you were doing. What you are doing isn't particularly nice but doesn't even begin to qualify as griefing. In fact, it has added to my personal game enjoyment as another interesting facet of the game. Evading you guys is just as interesting as mining or running agent missions. See you soon in-game waiting outside or in my station...
BigDave
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BigDave
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Posted - 2004.08.15 18:52:00 -
[82]
Istvaan,
I'm sorry if any members have accused you privately of griefing - something which I detest but you are not doing - but FIRMA as a whole does not believe you are griefing. Yes, you are attacking us. No, we do not enjoy being attacked. I'm glad to hear you aren't finding it fun, however; our admitted hope is that you eventually don't find this "proxy" war (which I for one do not believe is anything more than an extortion attempt) worthwhile. Time will tell who has more patience...
But as for griefing, I would have petitioned you in a heartbeat if that was what you were doing. What you are doing isn't particularly nice but doesn't even begin to qualify as griefing. In fact, it has added to my personal game enjoyment as another interesting facet of the game. Evading you guys is just as interesting as mining or running agent missions. See you soon in-game waiting outside or in my station...
BigDave
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Spec 593357629
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Posted - 2004.08.15 19:43:00 -
[83]
Funny i though carbears were Litle comic bears that help ppl when they were sad. but im sad all the time and i havnt had any carebears help me :-(
combat:Your Civilian Gatling Rail Gun hits Amarr Sentry Gun, doing 0.2 damage.
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Spec 593357629
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Posted - 2004.08.15 19:43:00 -
[84]
Funny i though carbears were Litle comic bears that help ppl when they were sad. but im sad all the time and i havnt had any carebears help me :-(
combat:Your Civilian Gatling Rail Gun hits Amarr Sentry Gun, doing 0.2 damage.
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2004.08.15 22:47:00 -
[85]
there cannot actually be any such thing as carebear psychology.
Ive *****ed a few carebears heads as a youngin and they tend to be full of fluff and spounge...no thought prosses, thats why carebears do the least inventive, remedial and repetitive tasks
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2004.08.15 22:47:00 -
[86]
there cannot actually be any such thing as carebear psychology.
Ive *****ed a few carebears heads as a youngin and they tend to be full of fluff and spounge...no thought prosses, thats why carebears do the least inventive, remedial and repetitive tasks
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MysteryGuy
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Posted - 2004.08.22 18:11:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
Do you think fighting people whose corporate policy is "evade at all costs" is somehow fun?
Erm, isn't that whats called "The Thrill Of The Chase?" Surely these guys don't want to make it toooooo easy for you? 
Or do you find it too difficult to do a little footwork?
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MysteryGuy
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Posted - 2004.08.22 18:11:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
Do you think fighting people whose corporate policy is "evade at all costs" is somehow fun?
Erm, isn't that whats called "The Thrill Of The Chase?" Surely these guys don't want to make it toooooo easy for you?
Or do you find it too difficult to do a little footwork?
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Djengis Knudde
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Posted - 2004.08.26 01:01:00 -
[89]
I am a carebear, a pirate, a merc and an orethief.
I declared war on a tough pvp corp by myself in my 1 man corp. Why ? Becaue they are right outside, always closeby and allways willing to blow up my ship.
I am a merc. Why ? Because i demanded 10 isk from that pvp corp to end this war.
I am a pirate. Why ? Because it was me who grabbed that piece of gear of the market before you did.
I am a carebear. Why ? Because i mine in empi maybe for a whole day on end to get some isk for new ships so the pvp guys can blow them up.
I am an orethief. Why ? Because it was me who popped that veldspar rock before you did.
Man i am so godly lazy and this game makes it so easy to be just that. Everything you want to be and want to have within a few systems around you.
Thanks to the pvp guys for keeping the cashflow rolling.
What else is isk good for if not to buy ships, get em to blow up and then buy a new one ?
Pats his ZX200 Ultra delux pod.
2 Windows, flowers and airco. |
Djengis Knudde
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Posted - 2004.08.26 01:01:00 -
[90]
I am a carebear, a pirate, a merc and an orethief.
I declared war on a tough pvp corp by myself in my 1 man corp. Why ? Becaue they are right outside, always closeby and allways willing to blow up my ship.
I am a merc. Why ? Because i demanded 10 isk from that pvp corp to end this war.
I am a pirate. Why ? Because it was me who grabbed that piece of gear of the market before you did.
I am a carebear. Why ? Because i mine in empi maybe for a whole day on end to get some isk for new ships so the pvp guys can blow them up.
I am an orethief. Why ? Because it was me who popped that veldspar rock before you did.
Man i am so godly lazy and this game makes it so easy to be just that. Everything you want to be and want to have within a few systems around you.
Thanks to the pvp guys for keeping the cashflow rolling.
What else is isk good for if not to buy ships, get em to blow up and then buy a new one ?
Pats his ZX200 Ultra delux pod.
2 Windows, flowers and airco. |
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