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Led Floyd
United Pod Pilots Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.04 18:56:00 -
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Jack Corigan wrote:Enoch Schereau wrote: If the event were concentrated - over a single weekend, or say 4 days at most
I agreed with you for that part. 1 Month is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar too long. The 100m per 10 kills is just -.- . It stopped being any fun for miners and just becomes unsub time, i know my 3 accounts wont be active for the duration of this. My corp has been the attack of a lot of ganks since hulkageddon was announced and we simply cant be bothered with even more. Its all great for the null sec alliances who have the capability to throw out the thousands of ships to replace the ones lost during this, but for small time corps its just bullying. Suicide ganking as a mechanic really has to be reassessed by CCP, its used far too much by too many people.
Agreed,1 month is too long.My 2 hulk pilots timed out yesterday and my orca pilot here has about 11 days.So,thats your 3 accounts and soon to be all 3 of mine,theres gotta be countless others quitting subs for the next month or maybe even longer just so some yahoos can go give the peaceful miner grief..makes alot of sense doesn't it?Anyway,I deal with it every year as do all of you I know its coming so I deal with it.I just wanted to say something about it this year,lol...
Fly safe, Led Floyd |

Bunnie Hop
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.05 06:27:00 -
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Led Floyd wrote:Jack Corigan wrote:Enoch Schereau wrote: If the event were concentrated - over a single weekend, or say 4 days at most
I agreed with you for that part. 1 Month is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar too long. The 100m per 10 kills is just -.- . It stopped being any fun for miners and just becomes unsub time, i know my 3 accounts wont be active for the duration of this. My corp has been the attack of a lot of ganks since hulkageddon was announced and we simply cant be bothered with even more. Its all great for the null sec alliances who have the capability to throw out the thousands of ships to replace the ones lost during this, but for small time corps its just bullying. Suicide ganking as a mechanic really has to be reassessed by CCP, its used far too much by too many people. Agreed,1 month is too long.My 2 hulk pilots timed out yesterday and my orca pilot here has about 11 days.So,thats your 3 accounts and soon to be all 3 of mine,theres gotta be countless others quitting subs for the next month or maybe even longer just so some yahoos can go give the peaceful miner grief..makes alot of sense doesn't it?Anyway,I deal with it every year as do all of you I know its coming so I deal with it.I just wanted to say something about it this year,lol... Fly safe, Led Floyd
Add my husbands 3 accounts to the unsub list. He is mostly an industrialist miner and decided its too much a headache to deal with so reinstalled everquest on his computer. I will continue to run lvl 4s with my accounts for the duration but if my husband does't return, I will leave as well. Guild Wars 2 beta was fun and the game will be out soon enough. When the gankers have no one left to gank, they will quit too as they are too big of cowards for real pvp. |

Draydin Warsong
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.05 09:22:00 -
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Chris Wheeler wrote:I would be VERY interested to see how much the organizers of this are speculating on the minerals market. The prices were going up already due to speculation on the impact of drone and loot table changes, then the actual impact of those, and now hulkageddon discouraging miners from production AND more demand for replacement mining ships push the prices up even higher. Seems like the perfect storm, especially if you've stockpiled the crap out of mineral the past few months. Its basically like buying up all the oil supply and then starting a war in the middle east and mining the straight of Hormuz:)
Someone is making a lot of ISK out of this little conflict.
Of course someone is making a lot of money out of this...and that someone is a group that starts with "G" and ends with "oons". Hehe they say jump and all the wannabe leeters run off the cliff like lemmings. Meanwhile their overseers are making what probably amounts to trillions laughing all the way to the bank. Not that I mind, there is something slightly erotic about watching someone smash their face into a wall until its bloody because "the man" promised the possibility that they maybe might get a reward. As for the the "G" people aka "the man", I think this article sums it up pretty good:
http://jestertrek.blogspot.it/2012/04/week-in-life-bottleneck.html |

Yellowbraids Crafterson
The Asteroid is Depleted Sentinels of Sukanan Alliance
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Posted - 2012.05.05 15:53:00 -
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Bunnie Hop wrote:Led Floyd wrote:Jack Corigan wrote:Enoch Schereau wrote: If the event were concentrated - over a single weekend, or say 4 days at most
I agreed with you for that part. 1 Month is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar too long. The 100m per 10 kills is just -.- . It stopped being any fun for miners and just becomes unsub time, i know my 3 accounts wont be active for the duration of this. My corp has been the attack of a lot of ganks since hulkageddon was announced and we simply cant be bothered with even more. Its all great for the null sec alliances who have the capability to throw out the thousands of ships to replace the ones lost during this, but for small time corps its just bullying. Suicide ganking as a mechanic really has to be reassessed by CCP, its used far too much by too many people. Agreed,1 month is too long.My 2 hulk pilots timed out yesterday and my orca pilot here has about 11 days.So,thats your 3 accounts and soon to be all 3 of mine,theres gotta be countless others quitting subs for the next month or maybe even longer just so some yahoos can go give the peaceful miner grief..makes alot of sense doesn't it?Anyway,I deal with it every year as do all of you I know its coming so I deal with it.I just wanted to say something about it this year,lol... Fly safe, Led Floyd Add my husbands 3 accounts to the unsub list. He is mostly an industrialist miner and decided its too much a headache to deal with so reinstalled everquest on his computer. I will continue to run lvl 4s with my accounts for the duration but if my husband does't return, I will leave as well. Guild Wars 2 beta was fun and the game will be out soon enough. When the gankers have no one left to gank, they will quit too as they are too big of cowards for real pvp.
Indeed, GW2 is a huge lure for Yellowbraids. Alas, the monk class is gone.
Though, I think it is a fair point to say that CCP has to provide the miners/traders with better protections in high sec if they want to keep subs. Though, I understand that the devs like this kind of thing, player driven events, in moderate amounts. The constant lack of any moderation seems to be a problem from my point of view as a player just getting into the game.
Basically, CCP has to realize that the fine line between "cool" and "wtf" is well past crossed when it comes to the Goons and gankers in general for many of the new miners. The devs sitting back and telling the miners to suck it up is not the way to keep new players. |

xNonox
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.05.05 18:59:00 -
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Sirppalla. Location Sirppalla 3 - Asteroid Belt 2
Name Rei Motsu. Flying a hulk.
This guy bots in this system every day. for months now. and it pisses me off. he's there right now. might move to a different belt. but yeah. come get him.
to be on topic. this event is awesome :) |

Led Floyd
United Pod Pilots Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.06 10:57:00 -
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Yellowbraids Crafterson wrote:Bunnie Hop wrote:Led Floyd wrote:Jack Corigan wrote:Enoch Schereau wrote: If the event were concentrated - over a single weekend, or say 4 days at most
I agreed with you for that part. 1 Month is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar too long. The 100m per 10 kills is just -.- . It stopped being any fun for miners and just becomes unsub time, i know my 3 accounts wont be active for the duration of this. My corp has been the attack of a lot of ganks since hulkageddon was announced and we simply cant be bothered with even more. Its all great for the null sec alliances who have the capability to throw out the thousands of ships to replace the ones lost during this, but for small time corps its just bullying. Suicide ganking as a mechanic really has to be reassessed by CCP, its used far too much by too many people. Agreed,1 month is too long.My 2 hulk pilots timed out yesterday and my orca pilot here has about 11 days.So,thats your 3 accounts and soon to be all 3 of mine,theres gotta be countless others quitting subs for the next month or maybe even longer just so some yahoos can go give the peaceful miner grief..makes alot of sense doesn't it?Anyway,I deal with it every year as do all of you I know its coming so I deal with it.I just wanted to say something about it this year,lol... Fly safe, Led Floyd Add my husbands 3 accounts to the unsub list. He is mostly an industrialist miner and decided its too much a headache to deal with so reinstalled everquest on his computer. I will continue to run lvl 4s with my accounts for the duration but if my husband does't return, I will leave as well. Guild Wars 2 beta was fun and the game will be out soon enough. When the gankers have no one left to gank, they will quit too as they are too big of cowards for real pvp. Indeed, GW2 is a huge lure for Yellowbraids. Alas, the monk class is gone. Though, I think it is a fair point to say that CCP has to provide the miners/traders with better protections in high sec if they want to keep subs. Though, I understand that the devs like this kind of thing, player driven events, in moderate amounts. The constant lack of any moderation seems to be a problem from my point of view as a player just getting into the game. Basically, CCP has to realize that the fine line between "cool" and "wtf" is well past crossed when it comes to the Goons and gankers in general for many of the new miners. The devs sitting back and telling the miners to suck it up is not the way to keep new players. I forgot to mention Diablo 3 in 9 days :) |

Akiva Katelo
Paendrag Enterprises Frontline Assembly Point
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Posted - 2012.05.06 12:40:00 -
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Had no idea this event had kicked off until a buddy asked if I was still mining in my hulk. So do what you do and take advantage of all the bot miners not being logged in 23/7, taking the best ore.
Profits are up and business is good.
Good Hunting |

Easthir Ravin
Easy Co. Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.05.10 13:06:00 -
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Rakan Khagir wrote:This hulkageddon is very nice for the little children who doesn`t have any job and live at home with mom and daddy and have enough time to play. But the player who has job and family and he/she try to chill a bit its NOT a funny game  And plz tell me where is the fair ratio if u lose an exhumer witch cost is 350M+ and who killed me they lost a 2-3M cost destroyers. And its happening in high sec system.  My problem is 350 > 2-3 So we want better tank or better defending. if i lose 350M the attackers also should lose NEARLY the same cost. So not the same and not higher but not just 2-3-50M. The point is the HIGH SECURITY SYSTEM! Yeah its "very high" when 2 destroyer kill u  If everything will be the same this hulkakeddon is just an emogeddon with emoswarm and emoholy union.
Said like a true socialist: everything fair, everything nice, no consequences. Is the fair ratio a new metric for the measure of eve fun-ness?
Keep the tears flowing. vr East IN THE IMORTAL WORDS OF SOCRATES: -á" I drank WHAT?!" |

Slayeroffools Eto
Crusade Industries
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Posted - 2012.05.10 15:35:00 -
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as a new player I have mixed feelings about the event.
on the negative side: I was quite happy to mine, level my Industry skills and make some money, now the mining is too risky for me. a whole month is a long time, the impact has not been as much as I expected and was warned about by more seasoned pilots.
on the positive side: Prior to Hulkageddon, my only combat experience was the tutorial and fending off rats, with my miner in storage for a month I started to pick up some better combat skills and have been enjoying that side of the game that I never would have had I stayed mining.
overall I would say Hulkageddon has been good for my personal development in EVE but im still new and everything is stil shiny so I am sure there are some vets that are really hating having their gameplay interupted. I am also looking forward to liquidating my stockpile of ore when the price spikes out towards the end of the month :)
-Slayer |

Mordecai Braeden
Industrial Gambit
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Posted - 2012.05.10 23:17:00 -
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Hi,
I'm new to this game. As I play for about a month now. My goal in Eve was/is to become a good miner and earn some money. I guess I started in the wrong period of time. Lost a retriever and a Hauling ship so far. But because I'm new I'd like to ask what this is all about and the goal behind Hulkageddon.
I think, to al fairness, there has to be some kinda rulebook for this event. As I can see on the Hulkageddon website they show what ships to shoot and stuff like that. Yet I got ganked by an Anathema while mining in a Retriever. Days earlier I was hauling some stuff and got shot as well. Ganker replied only with: Hulkageddon!!
I know in the long run, a week or 2, the miners will be the ones laughing the last. Especially the ones that docked their barges/exhumers. Because we, the miners, control the prices on the minerals and our wallets will grow fat on the false efforts of Hulkageddon.
In the month I play I've already seen the price go up 3 isk/m-¦ (And Counting)
But for some of the miners out there I ask the ganking guys to have some fairplay. Be mindfull of new players, like myself. For we have no Idea what's going on and why. Our ships are weak and provide the materials for your overpowered "ganking" ships.
Keep it to the hulks and stronger players but give the smaller guys a chance to get the hulk you want to destroy. If I lose one more Retriever I have to do missions in my bantam again...
Anyway Fly Safe o/ |

Hrothgar Nilsson
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.12 17:39:00 -
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DR Quantom wrote:Now is the time for Miners to rise up, We need to flex our power and Gank mineral prices, If Anyopne can impact and influence the Game, its the Miners raise your prices and dont sell cheap. Why don't you guys form a miner's union? A mining corp with a mineral bank in which member's can deposit minerals during fat times they can later withdraw to sell during Hulkageddon times? So members' incomes aren't disrupted during Hulkageddons? And insurance on top of that.
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Hrothgar Nilsson
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.13 15:48:00 -
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Bunnie Hop wrote:We have had about 14 accounts in our alliance unsubbed for the next month or two, I hardly see this event as being good for CCP. It doesn't effect me personally as I don't mine, but it bothers me to see people not being able to log on and play because of big bad wussies wanting to mass scale pvp non combat ships. If it were just a week long thing I doubt anyone would not have resubbed. Boycott Hulks.
It's like buying a Ford, and somebody from the Ford Motor Co. comes out once a year and destroys your car. Then you buy another Ford.
In all of the discussions on what miners actions miners can take in response to Hulkageddon, not once has anybody suggested not purchasing Goon/NA-produced Hulks.
Don't buy them, don't use them, cajole and bully other miners into doing the same. Problem solved. |

Lonnie Jouhinen
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.13 20:51:00 -
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To me it seems it is all about the Killboard and Value of item destroyed.
Mine in an Ibis...See who brags about that kill. |

Erroch
STK Scientific Rolling Thunder.
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Posted - 2012.05.15 14:22:00 -
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Lonnie Jouhinen wrote:To me it seems it is all about the Killboard and Value of item destroyed.
Mine in an Ibis...See who brags about that kill.
Most miners I know arn't really bothered that much. It's the same rules as it's always been, find a quiet place, stay aligned, watch local. As an added bonus, low sec tends to get a little bit quieter with so many of the pirates ganking in high sec. And in Low Secyou know everyone in local there is probably looking to kill you.
I suggest heading to low sec for the month. It is better ore, easier to determine risk, and best of all, you'll keep making profit while the mineral prices go up.
This is a good time to be a smart industrialist. |

Mctriad
Ozeki Corp.
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Posted - 2012.05.29 19:37:00 -
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Goons Announced via twitter hulkageden 5 payouts will go on indefinitely.
I'll be happy to donate isk to the Indefinite GOONAGEDDON bounty wallet. |

WInter Borne
Cold Station 12 Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2012.05.29 22:12:00 -
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Bunnie Hop wrote:I am surprised that CCP is allowing this happy horseshit to go on so long. A month of allowing gankbears to harrass other paying customers seems like bad business sense to me. Don't give me that crap either about eve being dangerous and go play hello kitty, we have all heard it before from you unimaginative sheeple. CCP needs to decide if it wants to be a strictly pvp game so that the rest of us can just leave it behind, which of course would end the game as our money keeps this thing going strong. I for one don't mine but have friends that do, and now they aren't logging on, so don't think you are getting any miner tears from me either you bunch of ***pirates. I just think you are all pathetic losers.
I like how important he/she/it considers itself.
PS: In the event that Bunnie actually sees this, your post is exactly the type of tears the gankers are looking for ;) |

Enoch Schereau
Bird-in-Hand
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Posted - 2012.06.10 23:36:00 -
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See, this permanent expansion of Hulkageddon just proves my original point. That it is really irrelevant. Ganks were 23.5/7 before Hulkageddon ever started. No prizes were necessary for this to happen. If anything, the goons are just wasting money with their payouts, as ganks were full time already without them.
There is no real difference between a permanent Hulkageddon and not having a Hulkageddon at all. The event has now officially been fully and completely neutered. |

Arcturis Achasse
World Forge Industries Engineers of Fate
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Posted - 2012.06.11 17:02:00 -
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ya know, There are police in highsec
Im pretty sure if a bunch of crazy people started running around blowing up peoples cars the police would get involved
Just a thought CCP |

Jude Lloyd
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2012.06.15 09:26:00 -
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You can hide your mining any way you'd like... but Heretic Army will find you and will relieve you of your horrible waste-of-ISK mining ship.
Serious question - WHO PLAYS EVE ONLINE AND CHOOSES TO MINE? MINING. REALLY? YOU LOG ON TO A GAME AND MINE. IS THAT SIMILAR TO THOSE WHO PLAY FARMVILLE?
Heretic's Never Ending Hulkageddon - http://kbarmy.heretic-army.biz/?a=cc_detail&ctr_id=5&view=kills Heretic Army Warlord and Diplomat Host of Frigfest http://judelloyd.blog.com/ http://kb.heretic-army.biz/
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Galdor
Khatovar Industries Ltd
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Posted - 2012.06.16 18:53:00 -
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This whole event in general should have been banned years ago. It promotes and encourages bullying. This game is supposedly a realistic sandbox when there is nothing realistic about this event.
If something like this event occurred in RL they would be labelled as terrorists and hunted down, period. |

Ryck Shepard
Clockwork Papilio The Butterfly Effect Alliance
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Posted - 2012.06.16 23:25:00 -
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My Advice is to create some Warp points on each end of the belt you're planning to mine in.
Gankers usually jump into the middle of the Belt, which gives you a decent amount of time to jump away.
Also create some safespots inside the system, then align to them and jump If needed. It's always better to jump to a custom location, it makes it much harder for the gankers to hunt you down. "Work smart, not hard" - Dr. Gregory House Ryck Shepard is a young capsule pilot from the Center of Advanced Studies in Cistuvaert V.
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Galdor
Khatovar Industries Ltd
0
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Posted - 2012.06.17 17:03:00 -
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Like others who have posted here, I am surprised CCP has not intervened or at the very least created an additional mechanic involving the terrorists' actions. Because that is exactly how they act and what they are. Pirates at least worry more about making profit and money and less about random violence.
In this day and age, terrorism in any form should not be tolerated. |

Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
461
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Posted - 2012.06.17 17:08:00 -
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Galdor wrote:Like others who have posted here, I am surprised CCP has not intervened or at the very least created an additional mechanic involving the terrorists' actions. Because that is exactly how they act and what they are. Pirates at least worry more about making profit and money and less about random violence.
In this day and age, terrorism in any form should not be tolerated.
Which day and age? 2012, or YC114?
If you're saying 2012, The appropriate answer is: It's a game. HTFU.
If you're saying YC114: There's war between the factions (see lowsec). And every Capsuleer is, effectively, their own State. Concord isn't the police. That's not their role. Their role is to smother Capsuleer on Capsuleer violence. FuzzWork Enterprises http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/
Blueprint calculator, invention chance calculator, isk/m3 Ore chart-á and other 'useful' utilities. |

Ryno Caval
Go Deeper Mining Silent Requiem
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Posted - 2012.06.17 22:43:00 -
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I'd like to see a T3 event instead of this hulkageddon all the time its tired and old Hulks are soft targets i think people should go after a real challenge Strategic Cruisers make that the next trend blowing up practically defenseless ships cant really be that thrilling but go after a strategic cruiser and hope they aren't fit to ruin your life that should put a little more spice in the game especially during those L4 mission runs ( )and prices will still be high they always are miners are greedy |

Galdor
Khatovar Industries Ltd
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Posted - 2012.06.20 14:39:00 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:Galdor wrote:Like others who have posted here, I am surprised CCP has not intervened or at the very least created an additional mechanic involving the terrorists' actions. Because that is exactly how they act and what they are. Pirates at least worry more about making profit and money and less about random violence.
In this day and age, terrorism in any form should not be tolerated. Which day and age? 2012, or YC114? If you're saying 2012, The appropriate answer is: It's a game. HTFU. If you're saying YC114: There's war between the factions (see lowsec). And every Capsuleer is, effectively, their own State. Concord isn't the police. That's not their role. Their role is to smother Capsuleer on Capsuleer violence.
Wow, it's a game really? That's your profound reply? Yah, ya got me there... I have no defense against such sharp wit.
At any rate, neither of your arguments hold any weight due to something called an TOS.
To put it in basic words for you to understand; (it is understood CCP can't control online gameplay specifically) when players themselves specifically go out of their way to harass other gamers repeatedly by attempting to use exploit tactics in high sec space just to get a kill on a non-combat ship is breaching the license agreement.
Hopefully that wasn't too complicated to understand for you Steve. Nevermind the simple fact that it looks really sad when players attack ships that can't fight back and somehow expect others to think that's somehow impressive? lmao
As far as your little lore reference goes, there is nothing in the lore or any cut scene that encourages players to attack miners. The lore has always been about combat vessels only. You might want to work on your powers of observation skill.
Section 16: "You may not do anything that interferes with the ability of other EVE Online subscribers to enjoy the game or web site in accordance with its rules."
Section 23: "You may not exploit any bug in EVE Online to gain an unfair advantage over other players. You may not communicate the existence of any exploitable bug to others directly or through a public forum. Bugs should be reported through the bug reporting tool on our website" (I am referring to players using exploits to attack miners in high sec while avoiding Concord)
The above can be found at: http://community.eveonline.com/pnp/terms.asp |

Andar Purvanen
Cognitive Disonance
0
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Posted - 2012.06.22 15:39:00 -
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Sections 16 and 23 can be interpreted. CCP has made it clear that Hulkageddon is not a violation.
I disagree but ok, I'll have to take my gaming elsewhere. Good luck with this decision.
Griefers don't require PvP access to grief but it sure helps them. Expanding PvP access via an interminable supply of isk to buy replacements does this.
It does something else too. NPC factions and states are rendered increasingly impotent to stop the newly rising capsuleer empires. There is no longer much reason to support the state. Its just a question of player empire building.
I quit smoking that stuff years and years ago. Death does not deter.-á I will mine until you surrender. |

Viktor Fyretracker
Emminent Terraforming
16
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Posted - 2012.06.27 04:48:00 -
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Ryno Caval wrote:I'd like to see a T3 event instead of this hulkageddon all the time its tired and old Hulks are soft targets i think people should go after a real challenge Strategic Cruisers make that the next trend blowing up practically defenseless ships cant really be that thrilling but go after a strategic cruiser and hope they aren't fit to ruin your life that should put a little more spice in the game especially during those L4 mission runs (  )and prices will still be high they always are miners are greedy
T3s are harder to gank, and more importantly the ISK required to gank them is much higher than the ISK required to get in an arty-thrasher and gank a hulk in .5 space.
for the cost of the tornados to gank the Tengu one could likely get 100 people into Thrashers and gank a Charon. |
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