As if mineral prices are not high enough already, lets keep them climbing.

It really sux that the gank ships needed for HULKAGEDDON are so much more expensive right now.

Although I am a miner I truly believe HULKAGEDDON is actually good for the EVE economy as a whole. It gives the market a nice little boost every year which usually takes a few months to subside.

However this year with the timing coinciding with the big BOT purge, and the Drone alloys nerf, we may be in for quite the roller coaster ride yet before the prices get any where near stable.

Just a note for all the avid PVPers out there. Miners will now be the primary source of minerals in EVE, no more gun mining or drone alloys to drive prices down. The more unsafe miners feel the higher the prices will get. Just keep that in mind when you are paying over a bil for a ship you could buy for a few hundred mil a few months ago.

Gankers have been harvesting tiers from miners for a long time now. But it is now time for the miners to harvest the teirs of those same gankers crying about the price of their ships.

Let the games begin...

Consider mining in lowsec.

Rather than worrying about which of the locals are gankers looking to ruin your day, you can mine in lowsec knowing that everyone is out to get you, much more simple!

If the event were concentrated - over a single weekend, or say 4 days at most

What miners need to do is to gang up as well. Miners should have a concurrent event like Hulkocalypse, where they support each other.

Great time for mining corps, who can organize "safe" mining ops. Heh heh.

Hulkageddon is a Joke. I mean, I can appreciate the concept and like when there are large-scale player-created events. But Hulkageddon is getting old.

There are really three problems with it. Two major, one minor.

First, the minor problem: It is old and not very original. It really needs some changing up to keep it interesting. But this is a minor issue.

The major issues are this:
1) Gankers abound and pretty much kill hulks all the time, everywhere. So you would be very hard pressed to find things to be all that differrent during Hulkageddon than before it started. So this really makes it feel like a non-event. Good miners are used to always being on the lookout for ganks. Now, this could be at least partly remedied except for the second major issue:

2) Hulkageddon is scheduled for too long a period. Four weeks is far too long. Now, there's no real sense of urgency for anyone participating. A participant can figure, "well, I have a whole month, so I'll just get around to ganking whenever it is convenient" - which spreads it out and dilutes it to the point that, even if there were increased activity over regular ganking (see issue 1 above), it will be diluted over 4 weeks so as to be drowned out by the bankground noise of regular ganking.

If the event were concentrated - over a single weekend, or say 4 days at most, then it would feed a sense of urgency and would really be noticable. Sort of like the burn Jita event - which is for a day or so at most - looking at the kill list, it is definitely noticeable.

As it stands, though, Hulkgeddon is a tired, old thing, spread out over too long a time, such that I doubt anyone will notice much difference from the 24/7 gankfest that is normal Eve mining.

What miners need to do is to gang up as well. Miners should have a concurrent event like Hulkocalypse, where they support each other.

Great time for mining corps, who can organize "safe" mining ops. Heh heh.

I like this idea... Carebears setting traps... the hunter becomes the hunted!

Sadly though I dont see it happing cause carebears dont PVP :(

BUTTTTT if someone can make it happen I would be happy to supply myself to the cause :)

So if I understand you correctly, You do not believe that the hype and especially prizes offer will give no incentive to the gankers to dtep it up for the month of hulkageddon?

You do realize that there are prizes offered that the gankers will be competing for. I agree that it is to long of a time period but anyone who actually wants a prize will need to be active the whole month if they really want to compete.

From the stats I have seen over the past few years the ganking of miners is usually 10x higher during HULKAGEDDON than any other month. There are many players that do not normally participate ganking but do come out for HULKAGEDDON. It is true that dedicated gankers go all year round but even they step it up during HULKAGEDDON.

Perhaps you are just trying to down play the event to convince more miners to drop their guard and become easier targets.

As if mineral prices are not high enough already, lets keep them climbing.

It really sux that the gank ships needed for HULKAGEDDON are so much more expensive right now.

Although I am a miner I truly believe HULKAGEDDON is actually good for the EVE economy as a whole. It gives the market a nice little boost every year which usually takes a few months to subside.

However this year with the timing coinciding with the big BOT purge, and the Drone alloys nerf, we may be in for quite the roller coaster ride yet before the prices get any where near stable.

Just a note for all the avid PVPers out there. Miners will now be the primary source of minerals in EVE, no more gun mining or drone alloys to drive prices down. The more unsafe miners feel the higher the prices will get. Just keep that in mind when you are paying over a bil for a ship you could buy for a few hundred mil a few months ago.

Gankers have been harvesting tiers from miners for a long time now. But it is now time for the miners to harvest the teirs of those same gankers crying about the price of their ships.

Let the games begin...

I agreed with you for that part. 1 Month is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar too long. The 100m per 10 kills is just -.- . It stopped being any fun for miners and just becomes unsub time, i know my 3 accounts wont be active for the duration of this. My corp has been the attack of a lot of ganks since hulkageddon was announced and we simply cant be bothered with even more. Its all great for the null sec alliances who have the capability to throw out the thousands of ships to replace the ones lost during this, but for small time corps its just bullying.

Suicide ganking as a mechanic really has to be reassessed by CCP, its used far too much by too many people.

Agreed,1 month is too long.My 2 hulk pilots timed out yesterday and my orca pilot here has about 11 days.So,thats your 3 accounts and soon to be all 3 of mine,theres gotta be countless others quitting subs for the next month or maybe even longer just so some yahoos can go give the peaceful miner grief..makes alot of sense doesn't it?Anyway,I deal with it every year as do all of you I know its coming so I deal with it.I just wanted to say something about it this year,lol...

Fly safe,
Led Floyd

I would be VERY interested to see how much the organizers of this are speculating on the minerals market. The prices were going up already due to speculation on the impact of drone and loot table changes, then the actual impact of those, and now hulkageddon discouraging miners from production AND more demand for replacement mining ships push the prices up even higher. Seems like the perfect storm, especially if you've stockpiled the crap out of mineral the past few months. Its basically like buying up all the oil supply and then starting a war in the middle east and mining the straight of Hormuz:)

Someone is making a lot of ISK out of this little conflict.

Add my husbands 3 accounts to the unsub list. He is mostly an industrialist miner and decided its too much a headache to deal with so reinstalled everquest on his computer. I will continue to run lvl 4s with my accounts for the duration but if my husband does't return, I will leave as well. Guild Wars 2 beta was fun and the game will be out soon enough. When the gankers have no one left to gank, they will quit too as they are too big of cowards for real pvp.

Indeed, GW2 is a huge lure for Yellowbraids. Alas, the monk class is gone.

Though, I think it is a fair point to say that CCP has to provide the miners/traders with better protections in high sec if they want to keep subs. Though, I understand that the devs like this kind of thing, player driven events, in moderate amounts. The constant lack of any moderation seems to be a problem from my point of view as a player just getting into the game.

Basically, CCP has to realize that the fine line between "cool" and "wtf" is well past crossed when it comes to the Goons and gankers in general for many of the new miners. The devs sitting back and telling the miners to suck it up is not the way to keep new players.

This hulkageddon is very nice for the little children who doesn`t have any job and live at home with mom and daddy and have enough time to play. But the player who has job and family and he/she try to chill a bit its NOT a funny game
And plz tell me where is the fair ratio if u lose an exhumer witch cost is 350M+ and who killed me they lost a 2-3M cost destroyers. And its happening in high sec system.
My problem is 350 > 2-3
So we want better tank or better defending. if i lose 350M the attackers also should lose NEARLY the same cost. So not the same and not higher but not just 2-3-50M. The point is the HIGH SECURITY SYSTEM! Yeah its "very high" when 2 destroyer kill u

If everything will be the same this hulkakeddon is just an emogeddon with emoswarm and emoholy union.

Now is the time for Miners to rise up, We need to flex our power and Gank mineral prices, If Anyopne can impact and influence the Game, its the Miners raise your prices and dont sell cheap.

We have had about 14 accounts in our alliance unsubbed for the next month or two, I hardly see this event as being good for CCP. It doesn't effect me personally as I don't mine, but it bothers me to see people not being able to log on and play because of big bad wussies wanting to mass scale pvp non combat ships. If it were just a week long thing I doubt anyone would not have resubbed.

To me it seems it is all about the Killboard and Value of item destroyed.

Mine in an Ibis...See who brags about that kill.

I am surprised that CCP is allowing this happy horseshit to go on so long. A month of allowing gankbears to harrass other paying customers seems like bad business sense to me. Don't give me that crap either about eve being dangerous and go play hello kitty, we have all heard it before from you unimaginative sheeple. CCP needs to decide if it wants to be a strictly pvp game so that the rest of us can just leave it behind, which of course would end the game as our money keeps this thing going strong. I for one don't mine but have friends that do, and now they aren't logging on, so don't think you are getting any miner tears from me either you bunch of ***pirates. I just think you are all pathetic losers.

Like others who have posted here, I am surprised CCP has not intervened or at the very least created an additional mechanic involving the terrorists' actions. Because that is exactly how they act and what they are. Pirates at least worry more about making profit and money and less about random violence.

In this day and age, terrorism in any form should not be tolerated.

Which day and age? 2012, or YC114?

If you're saying 2012, The appropriate answer is:
It's a game. HTFU.

If you're saying YC114:
There's war between the factions (see lowsec). And every Capsuleer is, effectively, their own State. Concord isn't the police. That's not their role. Their role is to smother Capsuleer on Capsuleer violence.

I'd like to see a T3 event instead of this hulkageddon all the time its tired and old Hulks are soft targets i think people should go after a real challenge Strategic Cruisers make that the next trend blowing up practically defenseless ships cant really be that thrilling but go after a strategic cruiser and hope they aren't fit to ruin your life that should put a little more spice in the game especially during those L4 mission runs ()and prices will still be high they always are miners are greedy