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Samillian
Moonshine Industries The Last Chancers.
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Posted - 2012.05.01 21:46:00 -
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Rapid response, high DPS, logistics and wormhole control. |

Bane Nucleus
The Kairos Syndicate Transmission Lost
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Posted - 2012.05.01 22:19:00 -
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If anyone depends soley on their POS to fend off an invasion fleet, they won't have that POS for long. It's why I have never understood how a 5 man corp (or any corp with a handful of people) expects to survive in wh space. |

ROSSLINDEN0
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
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Posted - 2012.05.01 22:26:00 -
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Mine is defended by a massive 30km long ***** and tophat |

Arazel Chainfire
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.05.01 23:08:00 -
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Bane Nucleus wrote:If anyone depends soley on their POS to fend off an invasion fleet, they won't have that POS for long. It's why I have never understood how a 5 man corp (or any corp with a handful of people) expects to survive in wh space.
Easy - either they have friends, or that POS doesn't matter so much that if you kick them out they can't go find somewhere else. That or you can do like a few friends of mine have and just hire mercenaries whenever someone comes by with an actual grudge. All this being said, in a C1-C4 WH, dickstars are the best, and the 2-3 groups that tried attacking my last one all fled after a few hours of mindnumbing boredom... 80 online and active ECM batteries + guns/webs/points will do that for you, even without having a defensive fleet always available.
-Arazel |

silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
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Posted - 2012.05.01 23:34:00 -
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ROSSLINDEN0 wrote:Mine is defended by a massive 30km long ***** and tophat Watch where you swing that thing! Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing. |

Bane Nucleus
The Kairos Syndicate Transmission Lost
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Posted - 2012.05.01 23:57:00 -
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Arazel Chainfire wrote:Bane Nucleus wrote:If anyone depends soley on their POS to fend off an invasion fleet, they won't have that POS for long. It's why I have never understood how a 5 man corp (or any corp with a handful of people) expects to survive in wh space. Easy - either they have friends, or that POS doesn't matter so much that if you kick them out they can't go find somewhere else. That or you can do like a few friends of mine have and just hire mercenaries whenever someone comes by with an actual grudge. All this being said, in a C1-C4 WH, dickstars are the best, and the 2-3 groups that tried attacking my last one all fled after a few hours of mindnumbing boredom... 80 online and active ECM batteries + guns/webs/points will do that for you, even without having a defensive fleet always available. -Arazel
I guess maybe we love the mindnumbing boredom haha. You are right though. Unless someone really hates your guts, a dickstar is more trouble than it's worth. |

Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal
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Posted - 2012.05.02 00:30:00 -
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Bane Nucleus wrote:If anyone depends soley on their POS to fend off an invasion fleet, they won't have that POS for long. It's why I have never understood how a 5 man corp (or any corp with a handful of people) expects to survive in wh space.
1. Pick a less than desirable system. Even a "crappy" system can generally make some good PI, and spawns the same stuff as every other WH system of its class
2. Make the POS as annoying as possible.
3. Keep a low profile.
4. keep a fun open for mercs
I had moved into a C1 awhile back as my first foray into WH life. I was in over my head even for a C1. I had always planned my setup to be disposable. the POS and all my ships paid for themselves in short order. I always figured if someone really wanted to kick me out, I would sneak out what I could, blow up the rest and find a new place.
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drdxie
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.02 01:22:00 -
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Bane Nucleus wrote:If anyone depends soley on their POS to fend off an invasion fleet, they won't have that POS for long. It's why I have never understood how a 5 man corp (or any corp with a handful of people) expects to survive in wh space.
By not being aggressive to other wh owners My wh toons corp has 12 members, only 2 ever bother with the wh's. I was solo in a C3 for over a year, dual boxing. Only once did anyone attempt to take over our C3 wh, and they were noobs, well old players, just no clue about wh's, and a dread shooting thier pos with a geddon shooting their 5 pilots in BC's managed to chase them away. Guess I was lucky. But I don't shoot haulers passing through, things like that. Doesn't stop me being ganked though 
Missile enhancers.. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1235061& |

Bane Nucleus
The Kairos Syndicate Transmission Lost
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Posted - 2012.05.02 01:38:00 -
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drdxie wrote:Bane Nucleus wrote:If anyone depends soley on their POS to fend off an invasion fleet, they won't have that POS for long. It's why I have never understood how a 5 man corp (or any corp with a handful of people) expects to survive in wh space. By not being aggressive to other wh owners  My wh toons corp has 12 members, only 2 ever bother with the wh's. I was solo in a C3 for over a year, dual boxing. Only once did anyone attempt to take over our C3 wh, and they were noobs, well old players, just no clue about wh's, and a dread shooting thier pos with a geddon shooting their 5 pilots in BC's managed to chase them away. Guess I was lucky. But I don't shoot haulers passing through, things like that. Doesn't stop me being ganked though 
You dont shoot haulers?  |

Terrorfrodo
Deep Space Darwinian Law Enforcement Agency
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Posted - 2012.05.02 11:38:00 -
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There are so many horribly fit POSes in w-space that the best way to defend is to be less terrible than the other guys. If a pvp corp that wants to bash some random tower sees your POS with 30 ECMs und 15 guns and another POS with 2 ECMs and 1 gun, they'll always pick the lazy idiots and not you. Winner of elections banned, runner-up demoted by rest of the body, the council controlled by the losers. CSM 7 is illegitimate, CCP should remember when dealing with them. Remember what players voted for. |

corbexx
Aperture Harmonics K162
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Posted - 2012.05.02 11:51:00 -
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Bane Nucleus wrote:drdxie wrote:Bane Nucleus wrote:If anyone depends soley on their POS to fend off an invasion fleet, they won't have that POS for long. It's why I have never understood how a 5 man corp (or any corp with a handful of people) expects to survive in wh space. By not being aggressive to other wh owners  My wh toons corp has 12 members, only 2 ever bother with the wh's. I was solo in a C3 for over a year, dual boxing. Only once did anyone attempt to take over our C3 wh, and they were noobs, well old players, just no clue about wh's, and a dread shooting thier pos with a geddon shooting their 5 pilots in BC's managed to chase them away. Guess I was lucky. But I don't shoot haulers passing through, things like that. Doesn't stop me being ganked though  You dont shoot haulers? 
you have to be careful just who's haulers and gas miners you shoot, one of our guys lost a gas miner got angry and 10 mins later was back in there system seiging it with his dread, it went bad from there, needless to say i think they wished they never killed his gas miner. |

Mr Bigwinky
4U Services Inc. Talocan United
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Posted - 2012.05.02 12:00:00 -
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corbexx wrote:you have to be careful just who's haulers and gas miners you shoot, one of our guys lost a gas miner got angry and 10 mins later was back in there system seiging it with his dread, it went bad from there, needless to say i think they wished they never killed his gas miner. Your advice is to not shoot at people in WH space for fear that we might get shot back?
I'm pretty horrified that came from an AHARM pilot.
Son, I am disappoint Welcome to EVE online, here's your rubix cube, go F*** yourself GÖÑ |

Nathan Jameson
Talocan Dominion Talocan United
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Posted - 2012.05.02 13:22:00 -
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corbexx wrote:you have to be careful just who's haulers and gas miners you shoot, one of our guys lost a gas miner got angry and 10 mins later was back in there system seiging it with his dread, it went bad from there, needless to say i think they wished they never killed his gas miner.
Don't kick over an ant hill if you don't like ants.
...you really shouldn't be in wormhole space though if you're not constantly prepared for invasion... |

Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal
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Posted - 2012.05.02 13:33:00 -
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Nathan Jameson wrote:..you really shouldn't be in wormhole space though if you're not constantly prepared for invasion...
Sorry I don't completely buy this argument. Maybe if you are adverse to getting ROFLStomped.
My last time living in a WH I never would have been able to defend myself without calling in some big favors. But I knew that going in. And WH's are lucrative enough that I made back my investment in POS and ships in a matter of weeks. So 6 months later when I was planning on moving out, if someone had decided to burn me down I would have been fine with it. Sure I would have lost a fair number of assets. But those things paid for themselves many times over already so I would have still come out way ahead vs not having been in a WH.
I guess the key is you need to be prepared. But not necessarily in terms of defense. |

Terrorfrodo
Deep Space Darwinian Law Enforcement Agency
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Posted - 2012.05.02 13:46:00 -
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If a cool dude gets caught while gas mining he leaves in silence and asks himself why he screwed up. A lame dude calls for his 50 friends and invades the attacker.
Unfortunately you can never know if it's a cool dude or a lame dude that you face, so I guess the guys from the large alliances miss quite a lot of interesting fights because many of their potential opponents do not dare win against them... Winner of elections banned, runner-up demoted by rest of the body, the council controlled by the losers. CSM 7 is illegitimate, CCP should remember when dealing with them. Remember what players voted for. |

Nathan Jameson
Talocan Dominion Talocan United
388
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Posted - 2012.05.02 14:02:00 -
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Derath Ellecon wrote:I guess the key is you need to be prepared. But not necessarily in terms of defense.
See, you agree. |

Gumby Ambraelle
Broken Wheel Mercantile and Trading Company Li3 Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.04 12:23:00 -
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Have enjoyed all the different yet similar approaches to POS defense....
The beauty of the game is there is no absolute right way...just a bunch of very good and sometimes similar solutions to a problem
Gotta love EVEGǪ.
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