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Doctor Ungabungas Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.05 23:46:00 - [31] Oh I don't know. 3.. 4 minutes tops. Time to pack it up folks, if we hurry we can convert the best gear into minerals before Kenzoku come back.
Rotnac Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.05 23:53:00 - [32] Originally by: Doctor Ungabungas Oh I don't know. 3.. 4 minutes tops. Time to pack it up folks, if we hurry we can convert the best gear into minerals before Kenzoku come back. Furiously clicking refine button here! God, I hope someone buys our firesale mins in 319.
Zemi Dahut Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.06 00:38:00 - [33] Never. If Kenny had any courage whatsoever the map of Delve would not be completely Goonswarm. But alas they're unwilling to risk what it takes to break up the PR- camp, so they'll never be able to risk what it will take to reconquer Delve.
OldPueblo Gallente DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.06 00:54:00 - [34] Oh great they just took it back. Just now.
Doctor Ungabungas Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.06 00:56:00 - [35] Originally by: OldPueblo Oh great they just took it back. Just now. God damn it, why didn't one of us think to say 'No takebacks'?
Fraud Crawler Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.06 02:06:00 - [36] Originally by: Lord WarATron Like I said, Kenzoku have some of the best dedicaded players out there. Its not a question of "if" they get their space back, just "when". Iunno Lord WarATron. You also implied that you KenZoku were not going to fold and let us take Delve. I think you are not doing too well as far as predictions go.
Gallente Ardientemente Gallente DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.06 02:10:00 - [37] Perhaps we may find an answer in this secret video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7d0RXMT3lc
Princess Jodi Gallente Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.06 02:47:00 - [38] Fitz, you live next door to Delve...how could you be so clueless as to what is happening? Get into a Covert Op and take a look. Delve has fallen, Kenny is not fighting back. You might as well pick any other random spot on the 0.0 map and say 'How long till Kenny takes this?' Cuz they got more presence in Empire than in Delve.
Yorda Minmatar Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.06 03:44:00 - [39] Originally by: Princess Jodi Fitz, you live next door to Delve...how could you be so clueless as to what is happening? Get into a Covert Op and take a look. Delve has fallen, Kenny is not fighting back. You might as well pick any other random spot on the 0.0 map and say 'How long till Kenny takes this?' Cuz they got more presence in Empire than in Delve. Just you wait, one of these days they'll break the camp on their own staging system and you'll be sorry!!!! Please resist the urge to flame - Mitnal
Sertan Deras Gallente Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.06 05:30:00 - [40] So let me get this straight. There are actually people (Lord WarATron) who are so delusional, they actually believe that Kenny has had the capability to take back their space this entire time, but they just wanted to wait for us to destroy a trillion in assets first? For the pew pew, right? Oh wait, Lord WarATron was the one who said "We've already won this fight, you just don't know it yet" right before we blew up his Aeon. Sorry, I had him mistaken for someone with a grasp on reality.

Porgy Caldari Free Collective Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2009.03.06 05:32:00 - [41] yo fitz this thread is pretty terrible mang. you better checkity check yo self before you wreck yo self. _______________________
Lord WarATron Amarr Shadow Reapers DAMAGE INC...	Posted - 2009.03.06 07:30:00 - [42] Edited by: Lord WarATron on 06/03/2009 07:32:25 Originally by: Fraud Crawler Originally by: Lord WarATron Like I said, Kenzoku have some of the best dedicaded players out there. Its not a question of "if" they get their space back, just "when". Iunno Lord WarATron. You also implied that you KenZoku were not going to fold and let us take Delve. I think you are not doing too well as far as predictions go. Haha, if you read exactly what I wrote last time, it came 100% true did it not? If you read up the exact reasons why I left, you will see I am not exactly the most pro-ken person, rather the reverse, due to the whole Hedge incident and recent revelations. So what I say is actually opinion baised on history, such as the length of time it took the last coalition to get bored etc. I kinda doubt molle is going to disband anytime soon, since I regard ken patience > goon patience. After all, ken when it was called bob was aparently dead half way through the first delve invastion if you beleived everthing you read at the time. Of course, someone might say that Band of Brothers has sov in their old space anyway, since Band of Brothers is now part of Goonswarm. But thats another thread altogether! -- Billion Isk Mission
Venomire Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.06 08:09:00 - [43] Edited by: Venomire on 06/03/2009 08:09:25 Originally by: Lord WarATron Of course, someone might say that Band of Brothers has sov in their old space anyway, since Band of Brothers is now part of Goonswarm. But thats another thread altogether! Whoa. e: Oh, hey, good luck with your future endeavors.
Cletus Graeme Caldari Duty.	Posted - 2009.03.06 11:16:00 - [44] Originally by: Lord WarATron I do not think than ken is superior anymore, its all a question of patience and who has more. I think this is actually a very accurate assessment. Anyone who things Kenny is already dead should think again. I still expect (hope for?) them to make a strong counterattack this month. Goons and Co have plenty to chest beat about as the speed with which they took Delve was very impressive, even if you take into account the help they got from Haargoth. However, if they get complacent too early and their numbers start dropping then I can see Kenny making a comeback. The next month should be very interesting! I just hope Apocrypha doesn't mess it all up :( Bring on the pew!
Jazhara Gold Caldari Shadow Reapers DAMAGE INC...	Posted - 2009.03.06 11:19:00 - [45] had a member of bob leadership not dispand there alliance the goons never would have took delve. so what you have done has proved nothing. now doing what you did with bob still intact and not loseing sov like thay did would of prove your a gr8 allaince. you got an easy ride by bob being dispanded. so when you do beat 1 of the big allaince without lame help then you can call yourself a gr8 alliance.
Jazhara Gold Caldari Shadow Reapers DAMAGE INC...	Posted - 2009.03.06 11:21:00 - [46] kenny will re take delve that is just a matter of time.
Palmer Eldritch Gallente Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.06 11:36:00 - [47] Originally by: Jazhara Gold had a member of bob leadership not dispand there alliance the goons never would have took delve. so what you have done has proved nothing. now doing what you did with bob still intact and not loseing sov like thay did would of prove your a gr8 allaince. you got an easy ride by bob being dispanded. so when you do beat 1 of the big allaince without lame help then you can call yourself a gr8 alliance. But we don't call ourselves a great alliance. We call ourselves an awful alliance. Which owns Delve. ------------ Coranor you all know i can't stand most of the gbc but while we have them we may as well give them something challenging where they can actually learn a bit Dian fair point
Akelorian Caldari The first genesis INTERDICTION	Posted - 2009.03.06 11:58:00 - [48] Edited by: Akelorian on 06/03/2009 12:03:16 Originally by: Palmer Eldritch Originally by: Jazhara Gold had a member of bob leadership not dispand there alliance the goons never would have took delve. so what you have done has proved nothing. now doing what you did with bob still intact and not loseing sov like thay did would of prove your a gr8 allaince. you got an easy ride by bob being dispanded. so when you do beat 1 of the big allaince without lame help then you can call yourself a gr8 alliance. But we don't call ourselves a great alliance. We call ourselves an awful alliance. Which owns Delve. my BF is the poster above.
Lady Lard Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.06 12:42:00 - [49] a week
Blake Zacary Caldari Volatile Nature Frontal Impact	Posted - 2009.03.06 13:04:00 - [50] 378 days 7 hours and 43 mins.

Rek Esket Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.06 13:28:00 - [51] Originally by: Cletus Graeme Originally by: Lord WarATron I do not think than ken is superior anymore, its all a question of patience and who has more. However, if they get complacent too early and their numbers start dropping then I can see Kenny making a comeback. Camp PR- crew forever checking in.
War Scout Caldari TribalWar Inc	Posted - 2009.03.06 14:09:00 - [52] If I had to guess, I would say they have taken a page out of the Goonswarm playbook and are lying low until the horde subsides, much like GS did when they were camped into Syndicate. When the Goons & allies get bored and go back to riding bikes, they'll make a big push and try to get it back.
Ayman Zawahiri Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.06 15:02:00 - [53] Originally by: War Scout If I had to guess, I would say they have taken a page out of the Goonswarm playbook and are lying low until the horde subsides, much like GS did when they were camped into Syndicate. When the Goons & allies get bored and go back to riding bikes, they'll make a big push and try to get it back. You're comparing getting camped into NPC syndicate when GS had no assets to defend to Kenzoku losing their wife, house, gold plated pimp ships, and bags of moon gold all while getting repeatedly curb stomped. It's not even close to the same.
Amiable Quinn Minmatar Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.06 15:10:00 - [54] Originally by: War Scout If I had to guess, I would say they have taken a page out of the Goonswarm playbook and are lying low until the horde subsides, much like GS did when they were camped into Syndicate. When the Goons & allies get bored and go back to riding bikes, they'll make a big push and try to get it back. Of course, we will be riding bikes in Delve. But seriously, is "hoping your opponent quits playing the game" a "strategy" or a "fantasy"?
Montasque Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.06 15:20:00 - [55] Kenny has to understand that we are not going anywhere. We have abandoned the south, and brought everything we own to Delve. If Kenny want it back they are going to have to dislodge a 5k man alliance from one region populated by at least 3 sov 4 clusters. Good luck to that. Also guess what, -A- bringing nothing but BS will not help you retake Delve.
Sertan Deras Gallente Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.06 17:12:00 - [56] What I want to know is where Kenny is going to get the money for this counter offensive. Cause, we took all your moon gold you suckers. The quality level of the ships their members fly has already plummeted from "If you fly a T1 ship we'll kick you out of the alliance" to "JUST STRAP GUNS TO YOUR VOLVO AND THROW CHERRY ZOOMS AT THEM", so it's obvious that at the individual member level they are out of money. No place to rat, the communist corps no longer have their massive moon gold money. Back to missions in empire I guess? Maybe they'll sell one of those 20+ titans to bank roll their offensive? Borrow the money from AAA? Inquiring minds want to know. I find the psychology of the pubbie who thinks Kenny is going to rise from the ashes like some sort of phoenix, incredibly interesting. Self delusion? Maybe. Kenny's amazing propaganda machine leaving ripples in the social fabric of EVE? More likely. Interesting none the less.
Kearl Gallente Free Collective Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2009.03.06 17:37:00 - [57] Originally by: Porgy yo fitz this thread is pretty terrible mang. you better checkity check yo self before you wreck yo self. c
Petar Quaresma Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.06 17:43:00 - [58] That's exactly right, Sertan. People seem confused about the costs of the war so far. We will have killed 500 towers and so you factor in the cost of those towers but you also have to factor in the cost of putting up those towers. You also have to consider the cost of putting up NEW towers if you want to contest those systems from Goonswarm and the time it will take to do so. As you describe, they have no moon mining anymore. So where will the money come from? They actually LOST at least 150 billion ISK of income when we killed their CSAAs. We stopped their T2 production when we killed their reaction miners. We stopped their capital construction when we took sov in every station in Delve and we stole the remainder of their extra dreads. Kenny was rich but only if they retained everything I just mentioned and they haven't. Right now we're less than 2 weeks from getting sov 3 station systems and that means we can ramp up capital production. At that point, Kenny is at an even worse disadvantage because they will be either buying their caps and supercaps from AAA or empire. The capitals won't be subsidized and members will be more cautious or unwilling to use them. Let's not also forget also that the speed that this all took place almost certainly caused untold billions to be locked in various stations. AAA is Kenny's only hope and AAA is lazy and bad. So yea, they are going to take Delve reeeeaalllll soon.
Lumen Atra Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.06 17:43:00 - [59] Originally by: Jazhara Gold had a member of bob leadership not dispand there alliance the goons never would have took delve. so what you have done has proved nothing. now doing what you did with bob still intact and not loseing sov like thay did would of prove your a gr8 allaince. you got an easy ride by bob being dispanded. so when you do beat 1 of the big allaince without lame help then you can call yourself a gr8 alliance. Look plebian: it has proved that they are not omnipotence itself. It has proved that when push comes to shove, they do not stand up. It has proved that they are completely reliant on the idea of invulnerability. The fact is, no matter what, Kenny still had the advantage, and squandered it. This is what you need to realize: Kenny is not a god, and never was. They relied on their fortress to protect them, which is smart considering it was very fortified. But they relied on their NAME being the main factor of force - they lost their name, and now they have lost their space. Does this mean they are done for? No. Does this mean they failure cascade? No. What this means, plain and simply, is that the rest of the eve population gets to see Kenny for what they really are, not as gods, not as a power to be reckoned with, but as an alliance that is equal; as an alliance that didn't have the resolve to fight. That doesn't mean they are down and out; it simply means they are not special - and this is an undeniable fact; it has been a fact for a long time now, but only now - with out the name and without the fortress - can the rest of eve see it. Those that clamor for some great comeback hold onto the myth of BoB - that they were special. To hold onto the myth is to buy into the idea that they are better than you and everyone else. If you do not believe that, then you must concede that they are simply equals, subject to wins and failures like the rest of the population.
Lord WarATron Amarr Shadow Reapers DAMAGE INC...	Posted - 2009.03.06 19:14:00 - [60] Edited by: Lord WarATron on 06/03/2009 19:15:46 Originally by: Voculus Originally by: Lord WarATron Edited by: Lord WarATron on 05/03/2009 19:23:38 Kenzoku will get their space back eventually. Thing to remember is that they are a long term goal of a alliance. Its not really a question of "If", rather its a question of "When". I for one, have no intrest in shooting thousands of POS's anymore, but there are no shortage of people who absolutly love doing so. I give it a couple of months before they end up with most of their space back. Jesus, you aren't even in the anime alliance, and you still can't get their stink off of you. It is impossible for bobbits, current or former, to get it through their thick heads that the game has changed, and they're way behind the curve. You sound like Waagaa, making a failpost about GF and pas are gonna fail to take Delve. 0/2 There was a old saying that when a troll throws a fishing net to catch some goons, you are bound to pickup some gems. I find it ironic that you ended up in the net. I hear that the best trolls are the ones which are not recognised as trolls after all. I would have thought you would have clicked after the "no shortage of people" who love shooting POS, but hey, you never know! -- Billion Isk Mission



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