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Fitz VonHeise Caldari Foundation Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2009.03.05 19:09:00 - [1] I was just looking at the Delve Dotlan Map and noticed that S-6HHN has now hit SOV 3 for KenZoku. (Unless this is a program glitch) I've read a lot of the forum posts about the tactic of BoB ala KenZoku has been to wait for SOV 3 to come back to their systems to really fight. It appears it is about to happen So the question that everyone has been wondering (even the Goons I'm sure) is how long before KenZoku will start staging out of their cyno jammed systems to take back Delve? If you look at their membership they have not lost many people and are above 3,200. Such a blow would have crushed most Alliances by now with people fleeing. But that didn't happen. It appears they are waiting for something I am not writing this not because I am a KenZoku follower: I am neutral with regards to 0.0 politics. But I really think there many people in Eve are are litterly holding their breath awaiting what will happen the day what remains of KenZoku's empire turns Sov 3.
karttoon Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.05 19:11:00 - [2] It's like Y2K all over again.
Fitz VonHeise Caldari Foundation Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2009.03.05 19:16:00 - [3] Originally by: karttoon It's like Y2K all over again. I'm not saying KenZoku will take Delve back... I'm just saying that there are probably about to be a lot of great fights.
Caius Proximus Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.05 19:19:00 - [4] Originally by: Fitz VonHeise wait for SOV 3 to come back to their systems to really fight. elite pvp alliance
Lord WarATron Amarr Shadow Reapers DAMAGE INC...	Posted - 2009.03.05 19:22:00 - [5] Edited by: Lord WarATron on 05/03/2009 19:23:38 Kenzoku will get their space back eventually. Thing to remember is that they are a long term goal of a alliance. Its not really a question of "If", rather its a question of "When". I for one, have no intrest in shooting thousands of POS's anymore, but there are no shortage of people who absolutly love doing so. I give it a couple of months before they end up with most of their space back. -- Billion Isk Mission
Panzerkom Caldari The Polaris Axis United Freemen Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.05 19:24:00 - [6] That's a valid point. But I don't know about Delve itself. If I were the Ken/BoB leadership, I'd probably consider taking the southeast -- you know, the whole hit your enemy where they least expect it thing.
Montasque Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.05 19:25:00 - [7] Originally by: Lord WarATron Edited by: Lord WarATron on 05/03/2009 19:23:38 Kenzoku will get their space back eventually. Thing to remember is that they are a long term goal of a alliance. Its not really a question of "If", rather its a question of "When". I for one, have no intrest in shooting thousands of POS's anymore, but there are no shortage of people who absolutly love doing so. I give it a couple of months before they end up with most of their space back. You were the best of KenZoku, pure honor and 1v1 every day.
Brobuck Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.05 19:27:00 - [8] Originally by: Lord WarATron I give it a couple of months before they end up with most of their space back. Can I interest you in a wager on that? 500m isk says Delve is goons in July.
Fraud Crawler Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.05 19:27:00 - [9] Originally by: Lord WarATron Edited by: Lord WarATron on 05/03/2009 19:23:38 Kenzoku will get their space back eventually. Thing to remember is that they are a long term goal of a alliance. Its not really a question of "If", rather its a question of "When". I for one, have no intrest in shooting thousands of POS's anymore, but there are no shortage of people who absolutly love doing so. I give it a couple of months before they end up with most of their space back. lord waratron why did you leave kenzoku :(
Bran Stormer Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.05 19:29:00 - [10] Tron was a p. good movie imo

Ayman Zawahiri Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.05 19:31:00 - [11] Originally by: Lord WarATron Edited by: Lord WarATron on 05/03/2009 19:23:38 Kenzoku will get their space back eventually. Thing to remember is that they are a long term goal of a alliance. Its not really a question of "If", rather its a question of "When". I for one, have no intrest in shooting thousands of POS's anymore, but there are no shortage of people who absolutly love doing so. I give it a couple of months before they end up with most of their space back. People have been saying similar things since it began and if it was within their capability they would have never allowed 1 trillion+ worth of isk in items/pos/locked assets to be destroyed. Unless they get certain "outside" help from non in game resources it's not likely to happen.
Cayleu Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.05 19:40:00 - [12] Edited by: Cayleu on 05/03/2009 19:42:15 sov 3 in a bunch of station systems != sov 3 in a few scattered remnants of space. The war is almost over, we have long passed the point where sov 3 could have delayed the loss. The real question is can Kenny take back their space before we have sov 3? They have not really shown any evidence at all that this is likely.
SavageBastard Caldari Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.05 20:14:00 - [13] Wait, takes back Delve? They never lost it. In fact today they got Sov 3, jammers are going up and the offensive is basically lost on our part. Kenny isn't waiting for anything. It's already happened. We had a good run at it but it simply wasn't enough. gg
Lord WarATron Amarr Shadow Reapers DAMAGE INC...	Posted - 2009.03.05 20:21:00 - [14] Edited by: Lord WarATron on 05/03/2009 20:26:21 Originally by: Fraud Crawler Originally by: Lord WarATron Edited by: Lord WarATron on 05/03/2009 19:23:38 Kenzoku will get their space back eventually. Thing to remember is that they are a long term goal of a alliance. Its not really a question of "If", rather its a question of "When". I for one, have no intrest in shooting thousands of POS's anymore, but there are no shortage of people who absolutly love doing so. I give it a couple of months before they end up with most of their space back. lord waratron why did you leave kenzoku :( When kenzoku come to claim back their space, I do not plan spending hundreds of hours shooting POS like last time around. That and the Hedge titan theft incident where the guy got hounded into deleting his char over false accusations he was going to sell his Titan to Neutrals, when I now find out that we were secretly selling titans to neutrals all along. I am not a fan of hypocrisy, and have no plans to spend hundreds of hours shooting POS so more neutrals can get trophy Titans. Like I said, Kenzoku have some of the best dedicaded players out there. Its not a question of "if" they get their space back, just "when". -- Billion Isk Mission
Fitz VonHeise Caldari Foundation Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2009.03.05 20:21:00 - [15] Originally by: Cayleu The real question is can Kenny take back their space before we have sov 3? They have not really shown any evidence at all that this is likely. What if KenZoku just went system by system and just blew all your POS's to hell and back... not putting up any. With the number of Titans and caps they have they could probably do 3-5 systems a night. After reinforcement they could then go back to the least blobbed systems and destroy all POS's and then go on and put more system POS's into reinforcement. Goons can't cover all systems.. and KenZoku then have the advantage of deciding where to hit. Then the Goons will have lost multiple billions of isk in POS's and mods. It would be one of those ælong roads to haulÆ and not very likely.... but it could be done.
Reapeat Offender Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.05 20:23:00 - [16] They probably need to figure out a way to undock from PR- before they think about taking anything back.
Fitz VonHeise Caldari Foundation Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2009.03.05 20:30:00 - [17] Originally by: Reapeat Offender They probably need to figure out a way to undock from PR- before they think about taking anything back. There is that.
Fahtim Meidires Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.05 20:35:00 - [18] Originally by: Fitz VonHeise Originally by: Cayleu The real question is can Kenny take back their space before we have sov 3? They have not really shown any evidence at all that this is likely. What if KenZoku just went system by system and just blew all your POS's to hell and back... not putting up any. With the number of Titans and caps they have they could probably do 3-5 systems a night. After reinforcement they could then go back to the least blobbed systems and destroy all POS's and then go on and put more system POS's into reinforcement. Goons can't cover all systems.. and KenZoku then have the advantage of deciding where to hit. Then the Goons will have lost multiple billions of isk in POS's and mods. It would be one of those ælong roads to haulÆ and not very likely.... but it could be done. I mean, if we were able to do about 100 towers a week, they should have no problem...
Jager Narses Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.05 20:37:00 - [19] Originally by: Fitz VonHeise What if KenZoku just went system by system and just blew all your POS's to hell and back... not putting up any. With the number of Titans and caps they have they could probably do 3-5 systems a night. They can't do that once we get sov 3. You're also forgetting about reinforced timers and the example we set in DG-. Every time they blew up a tower we put one back up. With all the moon mining in Delve GS will have plenty of money to replace any towers lost. If they simply do nothing until everyone else leaves, then the moment they do try something everyone will come rushing back. If they actually manage to take back a station then everyone will just return to Delve to kick them out again. KenGoku has proven that they can't win alone, and no one else seems to want to help them. How exactly are they supposed to get stronger while living in empire and lowsec?
Holy Lowlander Amarr Lone Star Joint Venture Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.03.05 20:58:00 - [20] Well now the main reason of goonswarm's existance is kicked out of 0.0 , wouldn't membership in goonswarm drop again ? (like inactive people..) They might be awaiting that in the safety of their comfy empire stations ?

Montasque Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.05 21:06:00 - [21] Originally by: Holy Lowlander Well now the main reason of goonswarm's existance is kicked out of 0.0 , wouldn't membership in goonswarm drop again ? (like inactive people..) They might be awaiting that in the safety of their comfy empire stations ? If that was the case we'd all re-sub to kick Kenny in the teeth again. So no, they're not getting Delve back, ever.
Voculus Minmatar The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.03.05 21:11:00 - [22] Originally by: Lord WarATron Edited by: Lord WarATron on 05/03/2009 19:23:38 Kenzoku will get their space back eventually. Thing to remember is that they are a long term goal of a alliance. Its not really a question of "If", rather its a question of "When". I for one, have no intrest in shooting thousands of POS's anymore, but there are no shortage of people who absolutly love doing so. I give it a couple of months before they end up with most of their space back. Jesus, you aren't even in the anime alliance, and you still can't get their stink off of you. It is impossible for bobbits, current or former, to get it through their thick heads that the game has changed, and they're way behind the curve. You sound like Waagaa, making a failpost about GF and pas are gonna fail to take Delve. 0/2 _________________________________________________________
Mikhail Glatinov Caldari Eve Unity Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.05 21:13:00 - [23] I do not think bob will be able to retake delve. I do believe how ever is the fact that they will get there SOV 3's they will but this does not mean that they can retake it will just prolong there inevitable collapse of the GBC and the end of this long and costly war. IMHO thank god it is over we should try and destroy the new enemy in the south AAA
Sir Molley Amarr Band of Brothers	Posted - 2009.03.05 22:05:00 - [24] Originally by: Lord WarATron I give it a couple of months before they end up with most of their space back. You know fella I would of bought those command ships you suicided in pr-. Either way thank you for the turkey shoot it was an amusing distraction.
Lord WarATron Amarr Shadow Reapers DAMAGE INC...	Posted - 2009.03.05 22:15:00 - [25] Edited by: Lord WarATron on 05/03/2009 22:16:29 Originally by: Sir Molley Originally by: Lord WarATron I give it a couple of months before they end up with most of their space back. You know fella I would of bought those command ships you suicided in pr-. Either way thank you for the turkey shoot it was an amusing distraction. Not as amusing as the cries in local as the faction stuff blew up, or even the shock at a Disco fit Black Ops . -- Billion Isk Mission
czStiguria Caldari Rytiri Lva R.U.R.	Posted - 2009.03.05 22:22:00 - [26] Originally by: Mikhail Glatinov and the end of this long and costly war u are funny :) ... end of war :) ... lol
Palmer Eldritch Gallente Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.05 22:22:00 - [27] Originally by: Lord WarATron Edited by: Lord WarATron on 05/03/2009 22:16:29 Originally by: Sir Molley Originally by: Lord WarATron I give it a couple of months before they end up with most of their space back. You know fella I would of bought those command ships you suicided in pr-. Either way thank you for the turkey shoot it was an amusing distraction. Not as amusing as the cries in local as the faction stuff blew up, or even the shock at a Disco fit Black Ops . Congratulations on your new corp and alliance. You still have a Kenny sig, by the way. ------------ Coranor you all know i can't stand most of the gbc but while we have them we may as well give them something challenging where they can actually learn a bit Dian fair point
Chairman Lmao Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.05 22:26:00 - [28] I think we may have angered KenGoku FOR REAL this time. Any moment now we will be confronted by the wounded tiger that is the tiger before it was wounded.
An Anarchyyt Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.05 22:28:00 - [29] Originally by: czStiguria Originally by: Mikhail Glatinov and the end of this long and costly war u are funny :) ... end of war :) ... lol I know, there had to be a beginning to be an end. And since a beginning would mean Kenny had to have fought, well, look where that leaves us. Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.03.05 22:55:00 - [30] Originally by: Lord WarATron Edited by: Lord WarATron on 05/03/2009 19:23:38 Kenzoku will get their space back eventually. Thing to remember is that they are a long term goal of a alliance. Its not really a question of "If", rather its a question of "When". I for one, have no intrest in shooting thousands of POS's anymore, but there are no shortage of people who absolutly love doing so. I give it a couple of months before they end up with most of their space back. Please be more specific, does "couple" mean 12, and "most" mean 1 constellation? Hi, my name is Flinx, and I am a recovering nano***

Doctor Ungabungas Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.05 23:46:00 - [31] Oh I don't know. 3.. 4 minutes tops. Time to pack it up folks, if we hurry we can convert the best gear into minerals before Kenzoku come back.
Rotnac Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.05 23:53:00 - [32] Originally by: Doctor Ungabungas Oh I don't know. 3.. 4 minutes tops. Time to pack it up folks, if we hurry we can convert the best gear into minerals before Kenzoku come back. Furiously clicking refine button here! God, I hope someone buys our firesale mins in 319.
Zemi Dahut Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.06 00:38:00 - [33] Never. If Kenny had any courage whatsoever the map of Delve would not be completely Goonswarm. But alas they're unwilling to risk what it takes to break up the PR- camp, so they'll never be able to risk what it will take to reconquer Delve.
OldPueblo Gallente DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.06 00:54:00 - [34] Oh great they just took it back. Just now.
Doctor Ungabungas Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.06 00:56:00 - [35] Originally by: OldPueblo Oh great they just took it back. Just now. God damn it, why didn't one of us think to say 'No takebacks'?
Fraud Crawler Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.06 02:06:00 - [36] Originally by: Lord WarATron Like I said, Kenzoku have some of the best dedicaded players out there. Its not a question of "if" they get their space back, just "when". Iunno Lord WarATron. You also implied that you KenZoku were not going to fold and let us take Delve. I think you are not doing too well as far as predictions go.
Gallente Ardientemente Gallente DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.06 02:10:00 - [37] Perhaps we may find an answer in this secret video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7d0RXMT3lc
Princess Jodi Gallente Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.06 02:47:00 - [38] Fitz, you live next door to Delve...how could you be so clueless as to what is happening? Get into a Covert Op and take a look. Delve has fallen, Kenny is not fighting back. You might as well pick any other random spot on the 0.0 map and say 'How long till Kenny takes this?' Cuz they got more presence in Empire than in Delve.
Yorda Minmatar Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.06 03:44:00 - [39] Originally by: Princess Jodi Fitz, you live next door to Delve...how could you be so clueless as to what is happening? Get into a Covert Op and take a look. Delve has fallen, Kenny is not fighting back. You might as well pick any other random spot on the 0.0 map and say 'How long till Kenny takes this?' Cuz they got more presence in Empire than in Delve. Just you wait, one of these days they'll break the camp on their own staging system and you'll be sorry!!!! Please resist the urge to flame - Mitnal
Sertan Deras Gallente Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.06 05:30:00 - [40] So let me get this straight. There are actually people (Lord WarATron) who are so delusional, they actually believe that Kenny has had the capability to take back their space this entire time, but they just wanted to wait for us to destroy a trillion in assets first? For the pew pew, right? Oh wait, Lord WarATron was the one who said "We've already won this fight, you just don't know it yet" right before we blew up his Aeon. Sorry, I had him mistaken for someone with a grasp on reality.

Porgy Caldari Free Collective Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2009.03.06 05:32:00 - [41] yo fitz this thread is pretty terrible mang. you better checkity check yo self before you wreck yo self. _______________________
Lord WarATron Amarr Shadow Reapers DAMAGE INC...	Posted - 2009.03.06 07:30:00 - [42] Edited by: Lord WarATron on 06/03/2009 07:32:25 Originally by: Fraud Crawler Originally by: Lord WarATron Like I said, Kenzoku have some of the best dedicaded players out there. Its not a question of "if" they get their space back, just "when". Iunno Lord WarATron. You also implied that you KenZoku were not going to fold and let us take Delve. I think you are not doing too well as far as predictions go. Haha, if you read exactly what I wrote last time, it came 100% true did it not? If you read up the exact reasons why I left, you will see I am not exactly the most pro-ken person, rather the reverse, due to the whole Hedge incident and recent revelations. So what I say is actually opinion baised on history, such as the length of time it took the last coalition to get bored etc. I kinda doubt molle is going to disband anytime soon, since I regard ken patience > goon patience. After all, ken when it was called bob was aparently dead half way through the first delve invastion if you beleived everthing you read at the time. Of course, someone might say that Band of Brothers has sov in their old space anyway, since Band of Brothers is now part of Goonswarm. But thats another thread altogether! -- Billion Isk Mission
Venomire Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.06 08:09:00 - [43] Edited by: Venomire on 06/03/2009 08:09:25 Originally by: Lord WarATron Of course, someone might say that Band of Brothers has sov in their old space anyway, since Band of Brothers is now part of Goonswarm. But thats another thread altogether! Whoa. e: Oh, hey, good luck with your future endeavors.
Cletus Graeme Caldari Duty.	Posted - 2009.03.06 11:16:00 - [44] Originally by: Lord WarATron I do not think than ken is superior anymore, its all a question of patience and who has more. I think this is actually a very accurate assessment. Anyone who things Kenny is already dead should think again. I still expect (hope for?) them to make a strong counterattack this month. Goons and Co have plenty to chest beat about as the speed with which they took Delve was very impressive, even if you take into account the help they got from Haargoth. However, if they get complacent too early and their numbers start dropping then I can see Kenny making a comeback. The next month should be very interesting! I just hope Apocrypha doesn't mess it all up :( Bring on the pew!
Jazhara Gold Caldari Shadow Reapers DAMAGE INC...	Posted - 2009.03.06 11:19:00 - [45] had a member of bob leadership not dispand there alliance the goons never would have took delve. so what you have done has proved nothing. now doing what you did with bob still intact and not loseing sov like thay did would of prove your a gr8 allaince. you got an easy ride by bob being dispanded. so when you do beat 1 of the big allaince without lame help then you can call yourself a gr8 alliance.
Jazhara Gold Caldari Shadow Reapers DAMAGE INC...	Posted - 2009.03.06 11:21:00 - [46] kenny will re take delve that is just a matter of time.
Palmer Eldritch Gallente Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.06 11:36:00 - [47] Originally by: Jazhara Gold had a member of bob leadership not dispand there alliance the goons never would have took delve. so what you have done has proved nothing. now doing what you did with bob still intact and not loseing sov like thay did would of prove your a gr8 allaince. you got an easy ride by bob being dispanded. so when you do beat 1 of the big allaince without lame help then you can call yourself a gr8 alliance. But we don't call ourselves a great alliance. We call ourselves an awful alliance. Which owns Delve. ------------ Coranor you all know i can't stand most of the gbc but while we have them we may as well give them something challenging where they can actually learn a bit Dian fair point
Akelorian Caldari The first genesis INTERDICTION	Posted - 2009.03.06 11:58:00 - [48] Edited by: Akelorian on 06/03/2009 12:03:16 Originally by: Palmer Eldritch Originally by: Jazhara Gold had a member of bob leadership not dispand there alliance the goons never would have took delve. so what you have done has proved nothing. now doing what you did with bob still intact and not loseing sov like thay did would of prove your a gr8 allaince. you got an easy ride by bob being dispanded. so when you do beat 1 of the big allaince without lame help then you can call yourself a gr8 alliance. But we don't call ourselves a great alliance. We call ourselves an awful alliance. Which owns Delve. my BF is the poster above.
Lady Lard Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.06 12:42:00 - [49] a week
Blake Zacary Caldari Volatile Nature Frontal Impact	Posted - 2009.03.06 13:04:00 - [50] 378 days 7 hours and 43 mins.

Rek Esket Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.06 13:28:00 - [51] Originally by: Cletus Graeme Originally by: Lord WarATron I do not think than ken is superior anymore, its all a question of patience and who has more. However, if they get complacent too early and their numbers start dropping then I can see Kenny making a comeback. Camp PR- crew forever checking in.
War Scout Caldari TribalWar Inc	Posted - 2009.03.06 14:09:00 - [52] If I had to guess, I would say they have taken a page out of the Goonswarm playbook and are lying low until the horde subsides, much like GS did when they were camped into Syndicate. When the Goons & allies get bored and go back to riding bikes, they'll make a big push and try to get it back.
Ayman Zawahiri Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.06 15:02:00 - [53] Originally by: War Scout If I had to guess, I would say they have taken a page out of the Goonswarm playbook and are lying low until the horde subsides, much like GS did when they were camped into Syndicate. When the Goons & allies get bored and go back to riding bikes, they'll make a big push and try to get it back. You're comparing getting camped into NPC syndicate when GS had no assets to defend to Kenzoku losing their wife, house, gold plated pimp ships, and bags of moon gold all while getting repeatedly curb stomped. It's not even close to the same.
Amiable Quinn Minmatar Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.06 15:10:00 - [54] Originally by: War Scout If I had to guess, I would say they have taken a page out of the Goonswarm playbook and are lying low until the horde subsides, much like GS did when they were camped into Syndicate. When the Goons & allies get bored and go back to riding bikes, they'll make a big push and try to get it back. Of course, we will be riding bikes in Delve. But seriously, is "hoping your opponent quits playing the game" a "strategy" or a "fantasy"?
Montasque Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.06 15:20:00 - [55] Kenny has to understand that we are not going anywhere. We have abandoned the south, and brought everything we own to Delve. If Kenny want it back they are going to have to dislodge a 5k man alliance from one region populated by at least 3 sov 4 clusters. Good luck to that. Also guess what, -A- bringing nothing but BS will not help you retake Delve.
Sertan Deras Gallente Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.06 17:12:00 - [56] What I want to know is where Kenny is going to get the money for this counter offensive. Cause, we took all your moon gold you suckers. The quality level of the ships their members fly has already plummeted from "If you fly a T1 ship we'll kick you out of the alliance" to "JUST STRAP GUNS TO YOUR VOLVO AND THROW CHERRY ZOOMS AT THEM", so it's obvious that at the individual member level they are out of money. No place to rat, the communist corps no longer have their massive moon gold money. Back to missions in empire I guess? Maybe they'll sell one of those 20+ titans to bank roll their offensive? Borrow the money from AAA? Inquiring minds want to know. I find the psychology of the pubbie who thinks Kenny is going to rise from the ashes like some sort of phoenix, incredibly interesting. Self delusion? Maybe. Kenny's amazing propaganda machine leaving ripples in the social fabric of EVE? More likely. Interesting none the less.
Kearl Gallente Free Collective Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2009.03.06 17:37:00 - [57] Originally by: Porgy yo fitz this thread is pretty terrible mang. you better checkity check yo self before you wreck yo self. c
Petar Quaresma Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.06 17:43:00 - [58] That's exactly right, Sertan. People seem confused about the costs of the war so far. We will have killed 500 towers and so you factor in the cost of those towers but you also have to factor in the cost of putting up those towers. You also have to consider the cost of putting up NEW towers if you want to contest those systems from Goonswarm and the time it will take to do so. As you describe, they have no moon mining anymore. So where will the money come from? They actually LOST at least 150 billion ISK of income when we killed their CSAAs. We stopped their T2 production when we killed their reaction miners. We stopped their capital construction when we took sov in every station in Delve and we stole the remainder of their extra dreads. Kenny was rich but only if they retained everything I just mentioned and they haven't. Right now we're less than 2 weeks from getting sov 3 station systems and that means we can ramp up capital production. At that point, Kenny is at an even worse disadvantage because they will be either buying their caps and supercaps from AAA or empire. The capitals won't be subsidized and members will be more cautious or unwilling to use them. Let's not also forget also that the speed that this all took place almost certainly caused untold billions to be locked in various stations. AAA is Kenny's only hope and AAA is lazy and bad. So yea, they are going to take Delve reeeeaalllll soon.
Lumen Atra Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.06 17:43:00 - [59] Originally by: Jazhara Gold had a member of bob leadership not dispand there alliance the goons never would have took delve. so what you have done has proved nothing. now doing what you did with bob still intact and not loseing sov like thay did would of prove your a gr8 allaince. you got an easy ride by bob being dispanded. so when you do beat 1 of the big allaince without lame help then you can call yourself a gr8 alliance. Look plebian: it has proved that they are not omnipotence itself. It has proved that when push comes to shove, they do not stand up. It has proved that they are completely reliant on the idea of invulnerability. The fact is, no matter what, Kenny still had the advantage, and squandered it. This is what you need to realize: Kenny is not a god, and never was. They relied on their fortress to protect them, which is smart considering it was very fortified. But they relied on their NAME being the main factor of force - they lost their name, and now they have lost their space. Does this mean they are done for? No. Does this mean they failure cascade? No. What this means, plain and simply, is that the rest of the eve population gets to see Kenny for what they really are, not as gods, not as a power to be reckoned with, but as an alliance that is equal; as an alliance that didn't have the resolve to fight. That doesn't mean they are down and out; it simply means they are not special - and this is an undeniable fact; it has been a fact for a long time now, but only now - with out the name and without the fortress - can the rest of eve see it. Those that clamor for some great comeback hold onto the myth of BoB - that they were special. To hold onto the myth is to buy into the idea that they are better than you and everyone else. If you do not believe that, then you must concede that they are simply equals, subject to wins and failures like the rest of the population.
Lord WarATron Amarr Shadow Reapers DAMAGE INC...	Posted - 2009.03.06 19:14:00 - [60] Edited by: Lord WarATron on 06/03/2009 19:15:46 Originally by: Voculus Originally by: Lord WarATron Edited by: Lord WarATron on 05/03/2009 19:23:38 Kenzoku will get their space back eventually. Thing to remember is that they are a long term goal of a alliance. Its not really a question of "If", rather its a question of "When". I for one, have no intrest in shooting thousands of POS's anymore, but there are no shortage of people who absolutly love doing so. I give it a couple of months before they end up with most of their space back. Jesus, you aren't even in the anime alliance, and you still can't get their stink off of you. It is impossible for bobbits, current or former, to get it through their thick heads that the game has changed, and they're way behind the curve. You sound like Waagaa, making a failpost about GF and pas are gonna fail to take Delve. 0/2 There was a old saying that when a troll throws a fishing net to catch some goons, you are bound to pickup some gems. I find it ironic that you ended up in the net. I hear that the best trolls are the ones which are not recognised as trolls after all. I would have thought you would have clicked after the "no shortage of people" who love shooting POS, but hey, you never know! -- Billion Isk Mission

Svetlanna Amarr The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.03.06 19:22:00 - [61] Originally by: Fitz VonHeise I was just looking at the Delve Dotlan Map and noticed that S-6HHN has now hit SOV 3 for KenZoku. (Unless this is a program glitch) I've read a lot of the forum posts about the tactic of BoB ala KenZoku has been to wait for SOV 3 to come back to their systems to really fight. It appears it is about to happen So the question that everyone has been wondering (even the Goons I'm sure) is how long before KenZoku will start staging out of their cyno jammed systems to take back Delve? If you look at their membership they have not lost many people and are above 3,200. Such a blow would have crushed most Alliances by now with people fleeing. But that didn't happen. It appears they are waiting for something I am not writing this not because I am a KenZoku follower: I am neutral with regards to 0.0 politics. But I really think there many people in Eve are are litterly holding their breath awaiting what will happen the day what remains of KenZoku's empire turns Sov 3. Here is your answer: Goons are going to evacuate Delve in total panick mode, as usual, and will announce through forum garbage waves their victory to the other goons that never leave forum. Cosmic!
Vladic Ka Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.03.06 19:24:00 - [62] Originally by: Lord WarATron I hear that the best trolls are the ones which are not recognised as trolls after all. I would have thought you would have clicked after the "no shortage of people" who love shooting POS, but hey, you never know! The best trolls are ones that get a reply then say nothing. So yeah you are crap.
III LightBringer Gallente DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.06 19:46:00 - [63] Edited by: III LightBringer on 06/03/2009 19:49:02 hey. Stop this ** right now and log in. ing contest is being set up in Goontanamo now, ( That is between NOL, 1DH, FWST). Come, break out your best omedy ship for the worst *omedy alliance out there KenSuckU. ------ edit : :CCP: 3 k's in a row is replaced by 3 's. Real class from CCP ITT
Kaaii Caldari PixelJuice Design Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2009.03.06 20:41:00 - [64] Assuming you are outa Haargoth Agamar's, shouldn't be too long now... According to Oveur, existing LSAA's already anchored will stay there. kieron Director of Community Relations,
Ayman Zawahiri Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.06 20:45:00 - [65] Originally by: Kaaii Assuming you are outa Haargoth Agamar's, shouldn't be too long now... evacuates to empire leans back
Svetlanna Amarr The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.03.06 20:48:00 - [66] Originally by: Ayman Zawahiri Originally by: Kaaii Assuming you are outa Haargoth Agamar's, shouldn't be too long now... evacuates to empire leans back in total panick mode (you forgot)
Ayman Zawahiri Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.06 20:52:00 - [67] Originally by: Svetlanna Originally by: Ayman Zawahiri Originally by: Kaaii Assuming you are outa Haargoth Agamar's, shouldn't be too long now... evacuates to empire leans back in total panick mode (you forgot) мой кузен покупаю isk от вас, могу я положить вверх pos в вашем космосе?
Grarr Dexx Amarr Broski Enterprises The Council.	Posted - 2009.03.06 22:09:00 - [68] Originally by: Lord WarATron Edited by: Lord WarATron on 05/03/2009 19:23:38 Kenzoku will get their space back eventually. Thing to remember is that they are a long term goal of a alliance. Its not really a question of "If", rather its a question of "When". I for one, have no intrest in shooting thousands of POS's anymore, but there are no shortage of people who absolutly love doing so. I give it a couple of months before they end up with most of their space back. Aren't you a loyal butte.
Dianeces Minmatar The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.03.06 22:13:00 - [69] Originally by: Kaaii Assuming you are outa Haargoth Agamar's, shouldn't be too long now... Fortress Period Basis~~ will never fall.
Palmer Eldritch Gallente Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.06 22:39:00 - [70] Originally by: Kaaii Assuming you are outa Haargoth Agamar's, shouldn't be too long now... Attacking from Jita is not a joke and it looks like that is what we will be doing. ------------ Coranor you all know i can't stand most of the gbc but while we have them we may as well give them something challenging where they can actually learn a bit Dian fair point

Lady Lard Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.06 23:07:00 - [71] delve has already been retaken we just don't know it yet
Reapeat Offender Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.07 00:31:00 - [72] Originally by: Kaaii Assuming you are outa Haargoth Agamar's, shouldn't be too long now... It's okay. We'll be gentle when we throw you out your space.(again)
Reapeat Offender Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.07 00:39:00 - [73] Edited by: Reapeat Offender on 07/03/2009 00:42:39 Originally by: Svetlanna Originally by: Ayman Zawahiri Originally by: Kaaii Assuming you are outa Haargoth Agamar's, shouldn't be too long now... evacuates to empire leans back in total panick mode (you forgot) Your ongoing campaign to conquer our abandoned space has not gone unnoticed by the greater CAOD community. It has been magnificent. In only a month's time you've managed to capture at least 2 or 3 undefended stations and destroy at least a dozen...maybe even 2 dozen Goon POS's. Some of which may have even had fuel left in them! All we've managed to do is conquer Delve and kill 500 or so POS's. Why must -A- always outshine us. Why.
Lysander Kaldenn Caldari Viper Intel Squad Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2009.03.07 05:12:00 - [74] "I am neutral with regards to 0.0 politics." Unfortunatly your alliance is not, considering we were camping in PR 2 weeks ago... and are bestest manlovers with PL. All hail our Kengoku overlords, and the mighty and illustrious Lord Satan.
Talitana Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.07 06:28:00 - [75] Originally by: Kaaii Assuming you are outa Haargoth Agamar's, shouldn't be too long now... hi furry !!! did you had your date with pikachoo already ?
Mister Qwerty Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.07 23:23:00 - [76] it is only a matter of hours before the honour of renkoku goku zenroku becomes so strong that all is defeated in the path of their wolfpacks
Himo Amasacia Minmatar Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.08 00:31:00 - [77] About 3 hours. Seriously. "Constant practice devoted to one subject often outdoes both intelligence and skill." -Cicero
Plague Black Caldari 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.03.08 00:47:00 - [78] This is how kenzo sov 3 looks like: sov 3 system Never goon-a give you up Never goon-a let you down
vile56 Caldari RillaCorp Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2009.03.08 01:15:00 - [79] Originally by: Plague Black This is how kenzo sov 3 looks like: sov 3 system Never goon-a give you up Never goon-a let you down i clicked it just so you could have better roads my super big faction sale
hammyhamm Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.08 02:05:00 - [80] You cant defend systems with your entire capfleet stuck in an NPC station for weeks on end :v:

VCBee2888 Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.08 02:45:00 - [81] Edited by: VCBee2888 on 08/03/2009 02:45:46 http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/KenZoku facts baby, facts
Kyvon Gallente 10045th Logistics Battalion	Posted - 2009.03.08 04:32:00 - [82] Edited by: Kyvon on 08/03/2009 04:32:54 Originally by: VCBee2888 Edited by: VCBee2888 on 08/03/2009 02:45:46 http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/KenZoku facts baby, facts http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/GoonSwarm why was goon hemmoraging systems like its cool even BEFORE BOB disbanded? and if youre WTFPWNBBQSAUCEing Kenny, how are you still BELOW your sov system count than when BOB disbanded? you might have 10 more outposts, but you have less Sovs.... edit: now with 50% more flavorful burn
Reapeat Offender Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.08 04:41:00 - [83] Originally by: Kyvon Edited by: Kyvon on 08/03/2009 04:32:54 Originally by: VCBee2888 Edited by: VCBee2888 on 08/03/2009 02:45:46 http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/KenZoku facts baby, facts http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/GoonSwarm why was goon hemmoraging systems like its cool even BEFORE BOB disbanded? and if youre WTFPWNBBQSAUCEing Kenny, how are you still BELOW your sov system count than when BOB disbanded? you might have 10 more outposts, but you have less Sovs.... edit: now with 50% more flavorful burn You couldn't be more right. I begged our leadership to allow us to keep all of that -.01 true sec Angel space we were leaving behind. But there were like, F you Reapeat Offender. We are leaving that **** and moving to a region full of r64 moons where every system is -1.0 Blood Raider. I was all like But they wouldn't listen to me.
Himo Amasacia Minmatar Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.08 04:54:00 - [84] Less sov 3s? Wow, you would have thought with all our hax we could figure out how to have to hold tower majority in a system for less than 5 weeks to get sov 3 :( "Constant practice devoted to one subject often outdoes both intelligence and skill." -Cicero
Ahistaja Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.08 05:02:00 - [85] Originally by: Kyvon Edited by: Kyvon on 08/03/2009 04:32:54 Originally by: VCBee2888 Edited by: VCBee2888 on 08/03/2009 02:45:46 http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/KenZoku facts baby, facts http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/GoonSwarm why was goon hemmoraging systems like its cool even BEFORE BOB disbanded? and if youre WTFPWNBBQSAUCEing Kenny, how are you still BELOW your sov system count than when BOB disbanded? you might have 10 more outposts, but you have less Sovs.... edit: now with 50% more flavorful burn it might have to do with the fact that we still have two whole more regions to consolidate, hope this helps but then again, i'm sure 10045th Logistics Battalion knows way more about 0.0 warfare than goons vv
Chib Minmatar Species 5618	Posted - 2009.03.08 05:02:00 - [86] tbh holding delve is the biggest smack in the face for BoB/kenwhatever they could lose everything else but everyone knows delve is eves biggest goldmine ---------------------------------------------
Totally Slick Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.08 05:16:00 - [87] Originally by: Chib they could lose everything else but everyone knows delve is eves biggest goldmine no that would be empire mission runners go in gold comes out
Kyvon Gallente 10045th Logistics Battalion	Posted - 2009.03.08 05:16:00 - [88] Originally by: Ahistaja but then again, i'm sure 10045th Logistics Battalion knows way more about 0.0 warfare than goons my bad... im sorry i forgot to point out that in EVE Online, people can have more than one character... AND on top of that, can have more than one account too... personally, my 0.0 warfare experience goes back to the start of ASCN... yay! for butthurt goons posting in an epicly goonflooded thread
Ahistaja Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.08 05:20:00 - [89] Edited by: Ahistaja on 08/03/2009 05:21:27 Originally by: Kyvon Originally by: Ahistaja but then again, i'm sure 10045th Logistics Battalion knows way more about 0.0 warfare than goons yay! for butthurt goons posting in an epicly goonflooded thread yay! for craven alt-posting in a goon thread glad to hear that your main hasn't been relevant for years though. thanks for posting
Kyvon Gallente 10045th Logistics Battalion	Posted - 2009.03.08 05:30:00 - [90] ya. i got bored with superlong skill queues and sold him... youre welcome

Himo Amasacia Minmatar Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.08 05:34:00 - [91] Edited by: Himo Amasacia on 08/03/2009 05:36:01 Originally by: Kyvon personally, my 0.0 warfare experience goes back to the start of ASCN... Not experienced enough to have a clue how sov works, it seems. But hey don't worry. you have a lot of company (Hi -A-) "Constant practice devoted to one subject often outdoes both intelligence and skill." -Cicero
Lady Lard Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.08 06:36:00 - [92] Originally by: Himo Amasacia Edited by: Himo Amasacia on 08/03/2009 05:36:01 Originally by: Kyvon personally, my 0.0 warfare experience goes back to the start of ASCN... Not experienced enough to have a clue how sov works, it seems. But hey don't worry. you have a lot of company (Hi -A-) hey himo stop being a d i c k
Kevin Pulse Amarr Tactical Demise Blackguard Coalition	Posted - 2009.03.08 09:12:00 - [93] The following sentence is from Jazhara Gold( Shadow Reapers,DAMAGE INC...). "[H]ad a member of bob leadership not dis[b]and there alliance the goons never would have took delve." The above quote is analysed in the following sentence. If the leadership of BoB disband their Alliance (A), then Goonswarm will take sovereignty in Delve (B). The analysed sentence has the following form (denying the antecedent; inverse error): If A, then B. Not A Therefore, not B. If the leadership of BoB does disbands their Alliance, then Goonswarm will take sovereignty in Delve. The leadership of BoB did disband their Alliance. Therefore, then Goonswarm will take sovereignty in Delve. The form of the argument seen above is invaild. The conclusion does not follow from its premises [premise (A) and premise (B)]. Simple Conclusion: The quote from Jazhara Gold is meaningless. Jazhara Gold presents a typical logical fallacy. Kevin Pulse
War bane Gallente Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2009.03.08 12:14:00 - [94] Edited by: War bane on 08/03/2009 12:16:33 Originally by: Kevin Pulse The following sentence is from Jazhara Gold( Shadow Reapers,DAMAGE INC...). "[H]ad a member of bob leadership not dis[b]and there alliance the goons never would have took delve." The above quote is analysed in the following sentence. If the leadership of BoB disband their Alliance (A), then Goonswarm will take sovereignty in Delve (B). The analysed sentence has the following form (denying the antecedent; inverse error): If A, then B. Not A Therefore, not B. If the leadership of BoB does disbands their Alliance, then Goonswarm will take sovereignty in Delve. The leadership of BoB did disband their Alliance. Therefore, then Goonswarm will take sovereignty in Delve. The form of the argument seen above is invaild. The conclusion does not follow from its premises [premise (A) and premise (B)]. Simple Conclusion: The quote from Jazhara Gold is meaningless. Jazhara Gold presents a typical logical fallacy. Kevin Pulse A philisophical analysis of a statement cannot apply to the situation given the conditions Jazhara was implying. When he say's goons wouldn't have been able to take delve if a member of BOB did not disband their alliance; then that comes with the conditions that goons would not have been able to break through the cyno jammer's, the titan camps, or the logistics network. However since a former member of BOB did disband the alliance then those obstacles would not exist had goons attempted to take that space otherwise. In the end your statement is inconclusive, and comes off as somewhat condescending. Please try again when you have more of a solid arguement.
Hades In'aMiniskirt Caldari Little Shoppe of Tarts and Patisseria	Posted - 2009.03.08 14:59:00 - [95] ATTN: Kevin Pulse Philosophical analysis of a line taken from a post in a thread written in CAOD in a forum based around internet space/ships....all by fictional/pseudo characters not based on or in any real terms to their counterparts at the keyboard of a computer somewhere in the world...... Ahhh ****ycaca, I lost my train of thought
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Evolution KenZoku	Posted - 2009.03.08 15:33:00 - [96] SoonÖ
Montasque Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.08 16:23:00 - [97] Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr SoonÖ Jita's not delve.
Maryn Kilmak Amarr Eternity INC.	Posted - 2009.03.08 16:31:00 - [98] Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr SoonÖ In your dreams!
Himo Amasacia Minmatar Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.08 16:38:00 - [99] Anytime now... "Constant practice devoted to one subject often outdoes both intelligence and skill." -Cicero
Frantico Amarr North Star Networks Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2009.03.08 16:38:00 - [100] Edited by: Frantico on 08/03/2009 16:40:25 Originally by: Maryn Kilmak Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr SoonÖ In your dreams! im pretty sure waagaa is pretty awake, mynas And stop boasting and lets just se what happens. Will be fun whatever happens ahead i Atleast what i think =) - -

Qeng Nuwen Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.08 23:57:00 - [101] I live in fear.
Anahid Brutus Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.09 00:17:00 - [102] Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Soon™ better start moving before you run out of cap pilots
Shilok Caldari Titan Industries Technology Team	Posted - 2009.03.09 00:30:00 - [103] Actually, Kenzoku has contacted TITTS about taking over GOONspace. They heard about our highly successful operation that involved joining The INTERNET. to take the drone regions. Molle was actually quite nice to me on Vent.
Totally Slick Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.09 02:32:00 - [104] Edited by: Totally Slick on 09/03/2009 02:32:56 http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j219/tauuu/exemoros.jpg
deadlypie Gallente The Greater Goon Clockwork Pineapple	Posted - 2009.03.09 08:03:00 - [105] heh
edensson Minmatar Trans Nebula Inc. FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2009.03.09 12:09:00 - [106] Edited by: edensson on 09/03/2009 12:10:51 Ominous music The evil galactic empire has finally been defeated, the remnants are in hiding.... A long way away in a far off Region... ...Dark forces prepare their moves and are accumulating resources (moons, stations and space for the dimwits) in preparation for the invasion and annihilation of the weakened coalitions... Woe to those who do not notice the new enemies of peace and galactic love massing on their borders... beware (i know this message is cryptic) blame ed!
Orebuster Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.05.07 20:04:00 - [107] Originally by: edensson Edited by: edensson on 09/03/2009 12:10:51 Ominous music The evil galactic empire has finally been defeated, the remnants are in hiding.... A long way away in a far off Region... ...Dark forces prepare their moves and are accumulating resources (moons, stations and space for the dimwits) in preparation for the invasion and annihilation of the weakened coalitions... Woe to those who do not notice the new enemies of peace and galactic love massing on their borders... beware (i know this message is cryptic) blame ed! Tick Tock
Admiral IceBlock Caldari Northern Intelligence BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2009.05.07 20:21:00 - [108] Thanks for your kind words.
Helen Amarr DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.05.07 20:30:00 - [109] Originally by: Lord WarATron Edited by: Lord WarATron on 05/03/2009* 19:23:38* Kenzoku will get their space back eventually. Thing to remember is that they are a long term goal of a alliance. Its not really a question of "If", rather its a question of "When". I for one, have no intrest in shooting thousands of POS's anymore, but there are no shortage of people who absolutly love doing so. I give it a couple of months before they end up with most of their space back. Knew I should of offered a bet, also pro necro thread.
Judge Ment Caldari Zero Gravity Inc	Posted - 2009.05.07 20:31:00 - [110] I don't know ------------------------------------- We judge others by actions We judge ourselves by intentions.

Shayleigh Snowflower Caldari DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.05.07 20:35:00 - [111] This thread is actually fairly relevant. I believe that the question: "It appears they are waiting for something I am not writing this not because I am a KenZoku follower: I am neutral with regards to 0.0 politics. But I really think there many people in Eve are are litterly holding their breath awaiting what will happen the day what remains of KenZoku's empire turns Sov 3." Should be responded to now that we have moved on a little in time.. Fitz VonHeise: It did not turn out well for Ken or Barbie. Only side that are having somewhat success are the g4y russians that are getting a lot of new highly skilled pilots. Not banned any more.. yes.
CARY Caldari Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.05.07 20:52:00 - [112] Originally by: Fitz VonHeise I am not writing this not because I am a KenZoku follower: I am neutral with regards to 0.0 politics. But I really think there many people in Eve are are litterly holding their breath awaiting what will happen the day what remains of KenZoku's empire turns Sov 3. OH GOD, Please bring it, bring it, Please let it be so! WE DON'T WANT THAT SOV ANY WAY, IT WOULD BE RUDE NOT TO LEAVE KENNY NO HOPE AT ALL IN DELVE!
Tawron Amarr Arcana Imperii Ltd. Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2009.05.07 21:54:00 - [113] Originally by: Montasque Originally by: Holy Lowlander Well now the main reason of goonswarm's existance is kicked out of 0.0 , wouldn't membership in goonswarm drop again ? (like inactive people..) They might be awaiting that in the safety of their comfy empire stations ? If that was the case we'd all re-sub to kick Kenny in the teeth again. So no, they're not getting Delve back, ever. you act as if goonswarm ever kicked kenny in the teeth ever. you diddent. someone else did it for you, you failed for years with multiple bum chums. Kenny will get delve back im sure.

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