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Suzu Fujibayashi
Happy Dudes
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Posted - 2012.04.26 20:09:00 -
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With cloaked ships you are not only hidden from local but also from sight. So what are your favourite CovOps, Recon or T3 for some solo fun in wormholes? |
Bernie Nator
Talocan Hive Talocan United
277
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Posted - 2012.04.26 20:15:00 -
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Any cloaky t3 in a hole is fun, but I've become rather fond of cloaky proteus in holes for sheer tankability. Mean little buggers.
Not like you'll see it in local anyways. |
Orlacc
165
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Posted - 2012.04.26 20:40:00 -
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I use my Loki every day and have a blast! |
Jack Miton
Bite Me inc Exhale.
263
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Posted - 2012.04.26 21:00:00 -
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Probe in a covops, fight in a non cloaky T3. |
Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal
202
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Posted - 2012.04.26 21:01:00 -
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Cloaky Proteus FTW |
Substantia Nigra
NFI industrial
720
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Posted - 2012.04.26 21:37:00 -
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I'm roaming w-space with a pair of stealth bombers ... wee little guys. Occasionally I swap in a recon, but keep coming back to the bombers.
I'm a PvP-noob so the wallet doesn't hurt too much when I messup or bite off more than I can chew.
So far it's been heaps off fun, but sometimes requiring a lot of patience, and I've managed a few little kills. We can build and sell pretty much every ship. Check my bio for details. Our pirate epic arc completion packages really are very good: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=12973&find=unread |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
1522
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Posted - 2012.04.26 21:52:00 -
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Cloaky Proteus with a cloaky neut/scanning Legion for support.
Also, Pilgrims are fun. It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you. |
illy velo
Production N Destruction INC. The Last Chancers.
24
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Posted - 2012.04.26 21:59:00 -
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I used to use a cloaky tengu until I met with a 13 ship hole camp that I couldn't escape. I now stick to my nemesis unless I need to scout quickly and then I use the helios.
It is common knowledge that actually using the bomb launcher isn't the best way to PVP with a stealth bomber, still I get the biggest thrill in taking out salvagers and PI haulers right out from under their escorts with bombs. If done properly it works and is very amusing. |
Substantia Nigra
NFI industrial
720
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Posted - 2012.04.26 22:13:00 -
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illy velo wrote: It is common knowledge that actually using the bomb launcher isn't the best way to PVP with a stealth bomber ...
I don't know about 'common' but agree with the sentiment. My bombers, now, do not carry bomb launchers. I guess that makes them torpedo boats rather than bombers.
Agree also that killing a noctis right under the eyes of his escort ships is a whole lot of cheeky fun. We can build and sell pretty much every ship. Check my bio for details. Our pirate epic arc completion packages really are very good: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=12973&find=unread |
Bibosikus
Universal Moose Federation Moose Alliance
111
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Posted - 2012.04.26 23:36:00 -
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Cloaky Prot is awesome. 1170m/sec, 45k point, 550dps, 140k ehp AND cloaky? What's not to like
It can decloak & point a Tengu farming a C3 site, and buffer tank a whole fresh Sleeper wave at the same time. The box said "Requires Windows-á2000 or better", so I installed Linux. |
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Gedid Tava
The Kairos Syndicate Transmission Lost
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Posted - 2012.04.27 05:55:00 -
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If I put in the time to get space rich (fairweather gamer at best) then I'd probably roll cloaky Legion. But, as I am not space rich and am also a Nancy who loves tiny boats, I prefer a covops (bombers and probers) any day of the week. I can't remember the last time I intentionally logged out in a boat that wasn't my older-than-dirt Helios. |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
959
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Posted - 2012.04.27 07:07:00 -
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Anathema #1 much power grid, never die huehuehuehuehuehuehuehue |
Damiez
Malum Mortuus Inner Evil Sanctum
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Posted - 2012.04.27 07:15:00 -
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Hey, come to my wormhole and see what I fly..... -áIf you wish to rent this space, Please enquire within. |
Zarere
Team Pizza Viro Mors Non Est
38
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Posted - 2012.04.27 08:19:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:Cloaky Proteus with a cloaky neut/scanning Legion for support.
Also, Pilgrims are fun.
would you mind sharing that proteus fit? :o |
Rimyvald
Starbridge Logistics Brotherhood of Starbridge
0
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Posted - 2012.06.26 11:46:00 -
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Something like this for soloing I guess. U many want to change PG subsystem to Power core multiplier for an extra gun and buffer tank, at the expense of dronez, up 2 u.
[Proteus, Surprise] Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II True Sansha Energized Explosive Membrane True Sansha Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Centum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer Damage Control II
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Republic Fleet Warp Scrambler
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Medium Hybrid Collision Accelerator I Medium Nanobot Accelerator I Medium Nanobot Accelerator I
Proteus Defensive - Nanobot Injector Proteus Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Proteus Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration Proteus Electronics - Friction Extension Processor Proteus Propulsion - Localized Injectors
Hobgoblin II x5 Hornet EC-300 x5 Warrior SW-300 x5 Acolyte EV-300 x5 |
Bane Nucleus
The Kairos Syndicate Transmission Lost
93
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Posted - 2012.06.26 12:00:00 -
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Nothing was more fun than seeing a gassing Myrm outside his pos shield. I guess he logged in and went afk, forgetting to enter his pw. We got a few bombers together and got into position. Boom went the Myrm and the pod.
Fairly certain he woke up in high sec, not knowing wtf happened.
Moral of the story is, bombs do have uses anywhere you can use them. However, it's very situational and usually more helping to fit a probe launcher instead. Alliance Diplomat, Recruiter |
MadbaM
Hard Knocks Inc.
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Posted - 2012.06.26 12:05:00 -
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People always seem to want to narrow everything down to the best ship, in truth depends on the roll so here is my list.
Fast scanning scouting - Anathema Pointing caps in combat sites - Prote
I know allot of people disagree and i get stick from my own corp mates about it as well but I'm still a fan of the Covert Scanning Legion. I just like the options it gives me for targets of opportunity, if I'm scouting a pos and i see a hauler shoot of towards a custom's office i can usually kill even if its stabbed as it can't tank. The one huge negative, if you get scouted jumping into a hole and they camp you your chances of braking through a WH camp is slim.
But I'm surprised no ones mentioned Falcons yet, always nice to have them hiding out of site to tip the balance. |
Rroff
The Xenodus Initiative. Overclockers Podpilot Services
13
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Posted - 2012.06.26 16:09:00 -
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MadbaM wrote: But I'm surprised no ones mentioned Falcons yet, always nice to have them hiding out of site to tip the balance.
Thats why no ones mentioned them :D
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Godfrey Silvarna
Stargates and Smuggler Barons
19
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Posted - 2012.06.26 16:19:00 -
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I am a big fan of the Nemesis and I also often fly in a Pilgrim.
Pilgrim is really awesome on paper but it is so slow and clumsy that I have gotten frustrated with it often enough to start preferring the bomber. |
Freay Chrome
Brown Dwarf Inc
0
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Posted - 2012.06.26 19:07:00 -
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Bibosikus wrote:Cloaky Prot is awesome. 1170m/sec, 45k point, 550dps, 140k ehp AND cloaky? What's not to like It can decloak & point a Tengu farming a C3 site, and buffer tank a whole fresh Sleeper wave at the same time.
mind sharing that fit? ^^ |
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Kalel Nimrott
Wishful Desires Inc. Armada Assail
15
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Posted - 2012.06.26 19:26:00 -
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Bibosikus wrote:Cloaky Prot is awesome. 1170m/sec, 45k point, 550dps, 140k ehp AND cloaky? What's not to like It can decloak & point a Tengu farming a C3 site, and buffer tank a whole fresh Sleeper wave at the same time.
Try and kill a drake with dat. Good luck |
Ivory Kantenu
PILGRIMS Insane Asylum
26
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Posted - 2012.06.26 20:10:00 -
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Gedid Tava wrote:If I put in the time to get space rich (fairweather gamer at best) then I'd probably roll cloaky Legion. But, as I am not space rich and am also a Nancy who loves tiny boats, I prefer a covops (bombers and probers) any day of the week. I can't remember the last time I intentionally logged out in a boat that wasn't my older-than-dirt Helios.
Unless you're going neut tackle with a small gang, don't bother. Cloaky Legions pretty much pale in comparison. Learn the basics of Wormhole Selling: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=101693&find=unread
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Ayeson
Hard Knocks Inc.
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Posted - 2012.06.28 23:21:00 -
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http://kb.hardknocksinc.net/index.php/kill_detail/2084/
Best cloaky imo Ask me about Rengas-dar, HRDKX's Most recent, groundbreaking, game-changing, wormhole-collapsing research endeavour. |
R'adeh
Storm Solutions
0
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Posted - 2012.06.28 23:41:00 -
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Kalel Nimrott wrote:Bibosikus wrote:Cloaky Prot is awesome. 1170m/sec, 45k point, 550dps, 140k ehp AND cloaky? What's not to like It can decloak & point a Tengu farming a C3 site, and buffer tank a whole fresh Sleeper wave at the same time. Try and kill a drake with dat. Good luck
Easy if you have help from sleepers |
joes Bazooka
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2012.06.29 00:23:00 -
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Ayeson wrote:http://kb.hardknocksinc.net/index.php/kill_detail/2084/
Best cloaky imo
That's gold. |
Jack Miton
Bite Me inc Exhale.
349
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Posted - 2012.06.29 02:37:00 -
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R'adeh wrote:Kalel Nimrott wrote:Bibosikus wrote:Cloaky Prot is awesome. 1170m/sec, 45k point, 550dps, 140k ehp AND cloaky? What's not to like It can decloak & point a Tengu farming a C3 site, and buffer tank a whole fresh Sleeper wave at the same time. Try and kill a drake with dat. Good luck Easy if you have help from sleepers
except you wont because they'll shoot you for using tackle and having much better DPS and tank. engaging a tengu solo in a proteus is a fantastic way to die horribly since he CAN perma tank you and all he needs is 1 friend with a point. not to mention that any drake/tengu can just warp off before youre relock timer and lock time is up. |
Eternal Error
Exitus Acta Probant
59
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Posted - 2012.06.29 04:19:00 -
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Pilgrim is fun, but can get you killed fast if he has friends and can be needlessly slow for dumb miners. |
Miles Parabellum
The Grindmonkeys
13
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Posted - 2012.06.29 07:54:00 -
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Pilgrim or, occasionally, torpedo boats. |
Tarunik Raqalth'Qui
The Kairos Syndicate Transmission Lost
67
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Posted - 2012.06.29 11:15:00 -
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Eternal Error wrote:Pilgrim is fun, but can get you killed fast if he has friends and can be needlessly slow for dumb miners. As someone who's helped kill 'Grims, seconded on the "can get you killed fast if your target has friends" part. |
Barrak
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
44
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Posted - 2012.06.29 12:48:00 -
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Bibosikus wrote:Cloaky Prot is awesome. 1170m/sec, 45k point, 550dps, 140k ehp AND cloaky? What's not to like It can decloak & point a Tengu farming a C3 site, and buffer tank a whole fresh Sleeper wave at the same time.
*edit*
have now seen that multiple people have asked for it. |
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Romvex
Universal Freelance CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
0
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Posted - 2012.06.29 16:49:00 -
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[Proteus, Proteus - PVP]
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Corelum C-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Corelum C-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Corelum C-Type Energized Explosive Membrane 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Domination Warp Scrambler Federation Navy Stasis Webifier Corelum C-Type 10MN MicroWarpdrive
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Guardian Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Guardian Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Guardian Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Guardian Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Guardian Antimatter Charge M Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II Medium Trimark Armor Pump II Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Proteus Offensive - Hybrid Propulsion Armature Proteus Electronics - Friction Extension Processor Proteus Engineering - Power Core Multiplier Proteus Propulsion - Localized Injectors Proteus Defensive - Augmented Plating
you need a scanning alt or corp mate, but this is loads of fun. with an hg slave set this can almost peak 300k ehp
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Gul'gotha Derv'ash
Z3R0 RETURN MINING INC. Li3 Federation
47
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Posted - 2012.07.02 20:45:00 -
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Bibosikus wrote:Cloaky Prot is awesome. 1170m/sec, 45k point, 550dps, 140k ehp AND cloaky? What's not to like It can decloak & point a Tengu farming a C3 site, and buffer tank a whole fresh Sleeper wave at the same time.
Mind posting the fit? |
Bibosikus
Caldari Deep Space Ventures Intrepid Crossing
128
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Posted - 2012.07.06 14:55:00 -
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[Proteus, WH Cloaky Proteus] 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Armor Explosive Hardener II Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Gistum C-Type 10MN MicroWarpdrive Federation Navy Stasis Webifier Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 200
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II Medium Trimark Armor Pump II Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Proteus Propulsion - Gravitational Capacitor Proteus Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration Proteus Engineering - Power Core Multiplier Proteus Defensive - Augmented Plating Proteus Electronics - Friction Extension Processor
138k tank. 560dps with cheap 5% MH-805 implant. Cap stable with 200's but use 400's if neuting is involved. The MWD is debatable - it's only useful for burning in after decloaking & pointing at range. Otherwise, I use a C-Type AB.
Best way to snag an aligned eg. Tengu is to bump/decloak by proximity which can ruin the target's alignment and give you the extra few seconds you need to recalibrate and lock. Doing this in the last wave of an anomaly will get you Sleeper aggro but they do and will switch back to your target. Tengus are difficult to kill - especially the over-tanked non-prop mod type. But it's doable if you drop two turrets for two med neuts. You drop to about 340dps, but once you've broken the cap tank the Tengu has a pretty low ehp (usually around 35-45k) so he'll still die in a couple of minutes. The box said "Requires Windows-á2000 or better", so I installed Linux. |
Boober Fraggle
3
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Posted - 2012.07.11 04:50:00 -
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illy velo wrote:I used to use a cloaky tengu until I met with a 13 ship hole camp that I couldn't escape. I now stick to my nemesis unless I need to scout quickly and then I use the helios.
It is common knowledge that actually using the bomb launcher isn't the best way to PVP with a stealth bomber, still I get the biggest thrill in taking out salvagers and PI haulers right out from under their escorts with bombs. If done properly it works and is very amusing.
The right tool for the right job. Sometimes you dont need it, sometimes its critical.
my favs...
1. nemesis 2. tengu full covert for c1/2 3. cheetah for scouting.
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Hathrul
DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Exhale.
101
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Posted - 2012.07.11 13:26:00 -
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i love my new cloaky proteus. it can cloak, has a 340k EHP and a 54km point. if it tells you to stay there, you stay there.
it doesnt do any damage what so ever, but its not ment too anyway. with a point stretching over 70 km and 450k ehp when the booster enters the field it can tackle stuff in full sleeper sites and with full aggro survive long enough for the fleet to arrive :) |
Kalel Nimrott
Wishful Desires Inc. Armada Assail
23
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Posted - 2012.07.13 18:36:00 -
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Are solo cloaked stuff actually effective for something bigger than a cruiser/hauler? |
rogueclone2
MANDALORIAN MOTORS Eve Engineering
11
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Posted - 2012.07.13 20:39:00 -
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i love the recon tengu . might be a little light on the tank but puts out good dps |
Tarunik Raqalth'Qui
The Kairos Syndicate Transmission Lost
73
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Posted - 2012.07.14 02:26:00 -
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Kalel Nimrott wrote:Are solo cloaked stuff actually effective for something bigger than a cruiser/hauler? Yes and no. You'll be able to tip over failfits (and probably kill Tier3s as well in a cloaky Strategic Cruiser due to their squishiness), but a properly fit and flown Tier2 BC or empire faction cruiser should be able to take a solo cloaky of just about any flavor out, with the exception of perhaps a Pilgrim because of its neuting firepower and TD-reinforced speed/sig tanking ability. HACs and non-cloaky T3s are also best avoided unless you're sure they're say in a ratting fit that's killable due to neuting or suchnot.
Battleships might be a more interesting case, though, mainly due to poor large-weapon damage application, leaving the door open for speed/sig tanking especially if they aren't fitting any webs or painters. |
Hathrul
DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Exhale.
101
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Posted - 2012.07.14 13:49:00 -
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considering a cloaky proteus can do more then 600 dps, or just shy of 500 if it can also probe id say it should be able to break most stuff that flies in low class. with some help from sleepers thinks tend to break fast. |
Komen
Capital Enrichment Services The Night Crew Alliance
105
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Posted - 2012.07.15 19:33:00 -
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Kalel Nimrott wrote:Bibosikus wrote:Cloaky Prot is awesome. 1170m/sec, 45k point, 550dps, 140k ehp AND cloaky? What's not to like It can decloak & point a Tengu farming a C3 site, and buffer tank a whole fresh Sleeper wave at the same time. Try and kill a drake with dat. Good luck
Like a baws.
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Kalel Nimrott
Wishful Desires Inc. Armada Assail
24
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Posted - 2012.07.16 02:03:00 -
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That`s you proof? A fail fit Drake? About my KB, it sucks big time. But time Is what I have to change it. Still your prot won`t kill ma drake. Care to test? |
joes Bazooka
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
21
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Posted - 2012.07.16 02:06:00 -
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Kalel Nimrott wrote:That`s you proof? A fail fit Drake? About my KB, it sucks big time. But time Is what I have to change it. Still your prot won`t kill ma drake. Care to test?
Anytime. |
Kalel Nimrott
Wishful Desires Inc. Armada Assail
24
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Posted - 2012.07.16 02:23:00 -
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Posting with an alt? |
Komen
Capital Enrichment Services The Night Crew Alliance
107
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Posted - 2012.07.16 14:45:00 -
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Kalel Nimrott wrote:Posting with an alt?
Joe ain't me, I ain't Joe. |
Komen
Capital Enrichment Services The Night Crew Alliance
107
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Posted - 2012.07.16 14:57:00 -
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Also. You said try and kill a drake with dat. You never said it had to be a proper drake. Easy target is easy. |
Sheila Fireknife
2
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Posted - 2012.07.18 01:06:00 -
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Bernie Nator wrote:Any cloaky t3 in a hole is fun, but I've become rather fond of cloaky proteus in holes for sheer tankability. Mean little buggers.
Not like you'll see it in local anyways.
Little? |
Zyella Stormborn
Alpha Strategy In Umbra Mortis
19
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Posted - 2012.07.20 00:09:00 -
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Tarunik Raqalth'Qui wrote:*snip* , with the exception of perhaps a Pilgrim because of its neuting firepower and TD-reinforced speed/sig tanking ability. HACs and non-cloaky T3s are also best avoided unless you're sure they're say in a ratting fit that's killable due to neuting or suchnot..
Been practicing and learning through brawling with several fellow spacers in different ships. Been mainly to-hull stuff, so we don't go broke blowing each other out of the sky, but that also has been letting us use our more expensive ships to get a feel for everything. Out of all of them so far, that damnable Pilgrim (and the Curse as well, but the Curse cant sneak up on you) scares the bejesus out of me. Any thing I fly other than a missile boat and it tends to tear me down... fast. Consistently. I have decided I am going to have to line myself up a batch of these and max out my skills for them. |
Lord Regent
Northstar Cabal Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.08.15 05:28:00 -
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9/10
Great post Sincerely,-á Lord Regent. |
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