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Dethis
Caldari Queens of the Stone Age Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2009.03.09 22:18:00 -
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Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 09/03/2009 22:15:04
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 09/03/2009 21:12:12
Originally by: NightmareX
Like that have anything to say?. It's a reason it's a TEST SERVER. It's because we can test out everything on sisi that are on market to 100 isk. Sisi is not to grind missions everytime just to get isk to buy some things to test out.
You do not test on sissi you play on sissi cos its cheaper and easier as there are rules and BF areas ect. Oh and you have been using virtually the same ECMPEST fit for god knows how long now......
......just how much more "testing" can it need before its ready for TQ...
Originally by: NightmareX I REALLY hope you understand it. Because if you don't, then how you understand how Blasters work then?, if you cannot see the difference by using t1 and t2 rigs / Slave & Crystal set on sisi.
It wouldn't be any different. But you get my point yeah?. Or are you to dumb to understand that.
Using T2 rigs and HG implants on sissi makes any data taken useless for TQ as ppl do not generally use T2 rigs and HG implants on TQ.
And if you cannot see how using T2 Armour rigs and slaves ect would effect your results when fighting CAP dependent ships then it is you who are dumb beyond belief. Let alone how speed rigs and all the other T2 rig and implant items ppl hardly ever use would effect what ever results you get.
To the first point.
Wow, it's a BF and FFA arena there, really?, what are those for?, hmmmmm, isn't those for testing out the things you want to test out on your ships?.
And also, yeah it's cheaper, but who cares about isk on sisi. Isk is worthless on sisi anyways. What does the cheap items have to do with the testing to do?. I would still test all the same things if it have been 1 mill per item on market. it wouldn't make a damn difference.
And take my ECM Tempest out of this topic. Your emo rage whining about the Tempest you can take the the kids in WoW. This topic is about Blasters. Oh by the way, my Tempest is more a Neut Tempest than it is an ECM Tempest.
To the second thing about rigs. It's not useless when everybody else on sisi is using t2 rigs and Slaves / Crystal sets.
It will rather get useless for me to test with t1 rigs and no implants against everybody else with t2 rigs and Slaves and Crystal sets. But hey, your to dumb to get it.
And because of that, it wont have ANYTHING to say, at all. It will be the same if no one on sisi had rigs, but i had one rig. I will get the advantage over them, and then i'm more likely to get much much better results.
Also, when everybody is using t2 rigs there, it wont be different from that no one would use rigs at all on sisi. If everyone didn't had used rigs on sisi, then we would still be equally good to each others. And it's the same if everyone is using t2 rigs. We all are equal to each others then to.
Anyways, i'm waiting for sophisticatedlimabean next emo rage and rabble rabble rabble whine. Or the next poor excuse.
TBQH atm without trying to whine, i am fully blaster/drone specced and there is little reason to fly a blaster ship currently. The drone boats out preform them almost unanimously and blasters currently suffer on a medium large level.
This doesn't mean they don't work at all however they are at a disadvantage currently after the web nerf and the scram changes. --------
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Dethis
Caldari Queens of the Stone Age Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2009.03.09 22:24:00 -
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Originally by: Ig Neus I am almost exclusively flying a Taranis nowadays. It happens to be a blaster boat so here are some kills :
Crusader 1v1
Crow 1v1
Crow 1v1 no2
Apocalypse At this last, note that I top the Killmail, while Geddon and Ishtar started warping as soon as I tackled.
Indeed, Blasters are weak.
I think the main trend in this thread was to agree that small blasters are more then fine and usually the ships in this class are the top of the field, ishkur and taranis being the 2 best imo af/inty's however this trend does not continue into BC/Cruiser/BS hulls --------
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Dethis
Caldari Queens of the Stone Age Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2009.03.09 22:43:00 -
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Originally by: marakor
Originally by: Ig Neus
I do not like soloing in BC or bigger ships however. Still I got no answer to my previous question about the Brutix. Can anyone think of a Tier 1 Battlecruiser that is even remotely close to being as used as this Blaster ship? Ferox? Prophecy? Cyclone? There must be a reason for that, right?
Im not going to bite on the Tier 1 only part of your post as it a poor way to limit a selection when a player has the option of either.
The Drake, Harbi and Cane are more used than the Brutix or the Myrm though.
This is what i was just about to post.
The cane and harbi are far more used then any gallente BC t1 or not simply because they are more versatile and usefull in small to large gangs --------
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Dethis
Caldari Queens of the Stone Age Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2009.03.09 22:50:00 -
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Originally by: Ig Neus Edited by: Ig Neus on 09/03/2009 22:48:19
Originally by: marakor
Im not going to bite on the Tier 1 only part of your post as it a poor way to limit a selection when a player has the option of either.
The Drake, Harbi and Cane are more used than the Brutix or the Myrm though.
The difference in the prices of a Brutix and Harbinger where I live is more than the difference between a Harbinger and a Dominix. So there is a good reason to limit the choices to Tier 1 BCs. Unless Isk is not an issue but it actually IS for most people PvPing.
Being insurable kind of makes that a non factor unless you are pretty broke --------
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Dethis
Caldari Queens of the Stone Age Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2009.03.13 20:34:00 -
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Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 13/03/2009 20:33:33
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean
Originally by: NightmareX
And you say that you can remember, but then why have you forgotten that i have proven you like 10 times to now that not all of my kills are on Battleclinic. I even gave you a link to another killboard that had some kills that is not on Battleclinic.
Still gonna lie because of your memory problems?.
There is nothing wrong with my memory you just did a ninja edit, and you have never proven you have 400+ missing killmails even once let alone 10 times....
Lie on top of lie.
PS: TunDraGon AS A CORP AS WELL AS THEIR KILLS ARE REGISTERED ON BC....
http://killboard.eve-extra.com/show_kills.php?id=11544
Now, whos the liar here. Care to explain why those killmails there are not on Battleclinic?.
Oh noes, you can't, because i just proved you that i'm right that Battleclinic doesn't have all of my kills, not even near the right numbers.
Oh wth, some of the members in TDG had posted their killmails on Battleclinic?, yeah that doesn't mean i bothered to post them there that time.
Just have to say.
That is the most god awfully ugly killboard ever --------
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Dethis
Caldari Queens of the Stone Age Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2009.03.13 20:55:00 -
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Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 13/03/2009 20:54:03
Originally by: Liang Nuren Can you two stop?
-Liang
When sophisticatedlimabean have given me a very detailed explanation and very good facts on how Blasters works. Then i will stop.
But it seems that he can't do that because like i have said many times that he doesn't have a single clue on how to use Blasters. Or how they works
I just want to see his detailed explanation to see if he's doing anything wrong. Not that i need to know now that he's dong anything wrong when we already know he's using them wrong.
The fundemental function of blasters is fine, fact is their damage is to low because other long range weapons do pretty much the same DPS without sacrificing travel time trying to catch targets.
Thats the end of the argument because its the truth about blasters. --------
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Dethis
Caldari Queens of the Stone Age Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2009.03.13 20:58:00 -
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Originally by: NightmareX
Originally by: Dethis
Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 13/03/2009 20:54:03
Originally by: Liang Nuren Can you two stop?
-Liang
When sophisticatedlimabean have given me a very detailed explanation and very good facts on how Blasters works. Then i will stop.
But it seems that he can't do that because like i have said many times that he doesn't have a single clue on how to use Blasters. Or how they works
I just want to see his detailed explanation to see if he's doing anything wrong. Not that i need to know now that he's dong anything wrong when we already know he's using them wrong.
The fundemental function of blasters is fine, fact is their damage is to low because other long range weapons do pretty much the same DPS without sacrificing travel time trying to catch targets.
Thats the end of the argument because its the truth about blasters.
So what your saying, is that Lasers do almost the dame DPS as Blasters, well yeah, that's true.
But comparing just DPS with each others is a joke, and it doesn't work. Just take an armor omni tank into the picture.
Then Lasers only do 70% of the damage Blasters do.
Stop with the DPS comparions. It's just stupid.
You can't see how its detrimental in a real situation that the blaster has to be 20km closer for "slightly more" damage?
Thats kind of the point of the argument, when blasters get in close they should rip things apart more then anything else, they currently do not --------
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