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marakor Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers	Posted - 2009.03.09 13:18:00 - [1] Edited by: marakor on 09/03/2009 13:21:45 Originally by: Dethuss This TBH, blasters are still fine and gallente have far more options for viable ships then most other races, Brutix still puts a hurt with a decent tank, so you have to MWD into range, in a gang pick secondary and start putting a hurt on him. Vexor is amazing tbh for a t1 cruiser 1600 plate med blaster thorax will solo most ships it comes across myrm is still somewhat decent although you should probably just fly the brutix Ishtar is amazing Phobos is a great ship etc I find it interesting that all the ppl who post on here with claims that blasters are fine go on to give examples that are mostly drone ships like the Vexor, Myrm, Domi, Ishtar ect.... The phobos is ok but its a HIC and not much different in ability than other the races HICS. The thorax and its big brother the brutix like other ships used for solo work seem good because the pilots using them pick and choose their targets as do all solo pvpers no matter what ship they choose to use. But in gang combat the thorax and brutix are both death traps due to their lacks.
marakor Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers	Posted - 2009.03.09 13:53:00 - [2] Edited by: marakor on 09/03/2009 13:55:02 Originally by: Dethuss Explain how brutix and thorax are bad in gang work? I seem to see tons of pilots doing fine in them. Also what race has better gang ships then gallente while still being able to solo somewhat well (protip Its not amarr) Amarr have a few ships that can solo very well actually (did you forget the CURSE as its considered one of if not the best solo ship in the game) but then as stated already solo is not only rare but also more about target selection anyway, and amarr also have plenty of the very best gang ships as well as a sniper that can hit at maximum range. So we have for amarr: Solo = CURSE (the best solo ship in game imho). Sniping = Apocalypse (maximum range sniper only the rokh can touch). Gang = Take your pick (Amarr have the best gang ships in virtually every class/size the game offers). But hey caldari have the falcon....for now. Pro tip stop posting.
marakor Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers	Posted - 2009.03.09 14:16:00 - [3] Originally by: heslookinatu Originally by: marakor Originally by: Dethuss Explain how brutix and thorax are bad in gang work? I seem to see tons of pilots doing fine in them. Also what race has better gang ships then gallente while still being able to solo somewhat well (protip Its not amarr) Amarr have a few ships that can solo very well actually (did you forget the CURSE as its considered one of if not the best solo ship in the game) but then as stated already solo is not only rare but also more about target selection anyway, and amarr also have plenty of the very best gang ships as well as a sniper that can hit at maximum range. So we have for amarr: Solo = CURSE (the best solo ship in game imho). Sniping = Apocalypse (maximum range sniper only the rokh can touch). Gang = Take your pick (Amarr have the best gang ships in virtually every class/size the game offers). But hey caldari have the falcon....for now. Pro tip stop posting. So the point your getting at is basically train amarr? Its what i am doing, and for those who complain about FOTM chasing i say its better than whining and i have finished training gallente pvp ships/skills as well as the caldari rail ships anyway so i may as welll do summat.
marakor Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers	Posted - 2009.03.09 22:38:00 - [4] Originally by: Ig Neus I do not like soloing in BC or bigger ships however. Still I got no answer to my previous question about the Brutix. Can anyone think of a Tier 1 Battlecruiser that is even remotely close to being as used as this Blaster ship? Ferox? Prophecy? Cyclone? There must be a reason for that, right? Im not going to bite on the Tier 1 only part of your post as it a poor way to limit a selection when a player has the option of either. The Drake, Harbi and Cane are more used than the Brutix or the Myrm though.
marakor Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers	Posted - 2009.03.09 22:53:00 - [5] Originally by: Ig Neus Originally by: marakor Im not going to bite on the Tier 1 only part of your post as it a poor way to limit a selection when a player has the option of either. The Drake, Harbi and Cane are more used than the Brutix or the Myrm though. The difference in the prices of a Brutix and Harbinger where I live is more than the difference between a Harbinger and a Dominix. So there is a good reason to limit the choices to Tier 1 BCs. Unless Isk is not an issue but it actually IS for most people PvPing. After insurance has been taken into account its not going to be a particularly large or significant difference for a regular pvper/player.
marakor Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers	Posted - 2009.03.11 10:59:00 - [6] Edited by: marakor on 11/03/2009 11:07:10 Originally by: vostok Originally by: Megan Maynard I wonder if he's ever say....tried rails? I wasn't a huge fan of arty's for a long time because of the fitting, once i got that figured out I loved the range. I do love the range, on my alt's 47km megapulse lasers, and unlike rails and arty, they can actually deal damage. I also like the range on torps since its the perfect range for gang combat with javelins going out to 40km. The fact is, while blasters do still deal marginally more damage than torps and pulse, but getting into the range and then manipulating the ship so you can track your target is just too much compared to ships that can function at 2 or 3 times the range and lay down most of the dps. Yup 800ms takes you a while to get into range and a bucket tonne of time (if ever) when there is multiple targets around. Blasters however should not be given more range, they should how ever do more dmg in the ranges they already do. Oh and nightmare x you are wrong, using modules that are not regularly used on TQ and doing almost all of your pvp on sissi makes your ideas and results worthless on TQ, and your skills at TQ pvp lacking as there's lots of things on TQ that can and do happen that never happen in a controlled environment like sissi.
marakor Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers	Posted - 2009.03.12 08:50:00 - [7] Originally by: NightmareX It will still be easier to choose out a ship if you know what kind of fight your going up to when you know some of those stats from those tests. It only makes the decision easier to choose the right things to a fight. It does that for me. Ofc, we cannot say 100% that those tests will be like it is on TQ, but it still gives me an idea or a picture of what to use. It works for me though. I have never (after i started to test all kinds of ships on Sisi) choosed the wrong ship to a fight on TQ. Here is your problem in a nutshell. On sissi you can type in local things like "1 v 1 BS fight" or other scenarios that you wanna play and you can be sitting in whatever ship you feel like to do that in. On TQ you maybe on a roam or even camping a gate where the individual stats of your ship and its capabilities in a 1 v 1 situation and irrelevant. You maybe in a gang fight where the ppl you are fighting have support coming, when you play on sissi do you login alts and have them scouting neighboring systems for in coming hostile support?. You fight in your perfect optimal and structure your combat to beat the other side but because you are on sissi you do not need to run a second scout account and watch for incoming blobs or stay aligned until the second they appear so you can warp off and reposition. These are just a FEW of the things a TQ pvper must deal with to be successful. In short after reading your posts about how you think combat is and how you fit yopur ships i think that you are far from the experienced and knowledgeable pvper you think you are, you are little more than a mathematician who has figured out that in a controlled area X beats Y and are hiding on sissi cos you do not find TQ easy enough for you as there are no rules or regulations that limit what you may need to face and deal with on the main server.
marakor Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers	Posted - 2009.03.12 17:05:00 - [8] Originally by: Alpha Prime Originally by: NightmareX Yeah, but wasn't the HP buff to all ships because ships should last longer in PVP then?. Don't whine that ship doesn't instapop to you when they are in Hull, because it's not supposed to be like that. No. Its supposed to be like if you get a blastership next to you, shooting you, you're dead unless you can warp away or the blastership gets jammed. THAT is how it's suppose to be. I always like to compared Blasterships with Mike Tyson. If you stay out of range from his arms, you're fine. But if you get hit... R.I.P. The problem is that the other boxers especially amarr boxers have only 30% less power (after standard resists) and 1000% more reach.
marakor Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers	Posted - 2009.03.12 19:09:00 - [9] Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 12/03/2009 19:05:32 Originally by: JadeMako Originally by: NightmareX Or just warp in right on top of the target(s) and blast them to hell, woooooosssshhhh. Yeah gosh its fun doing that on Sisi shucks LOL. Well, you can still do it on TQ to, duh, it just take 2 clicks. 1. Jump in. 2. Warp to one of your gang mates that are pretty close to them. Easy peasy. Maybe kill the first ship and then spend the rest of the fight mwding around trying to get into range and doing crap dmg.....
marakor Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers	Posted - 2009.03.12 19:37:00 - [10] Originally by: NightmareX Originally by: marakor Maybe kill the first ship and then spend the rest of the fight mwding around trying to get into range and doing crap dmg..... Your doing it wrong then pal. Use your brain a little and you will not have any problems. Oh thats right i remember you saying that blasters ships should warp in and out...... Here is the thing, ppl on TQ do not sit around waiting for you every time you do that, and that is ignoring the fact that there's probably gonna be bubbles all over the place if you in 0.0. Stick to your worthless "organized" sissi pvp dude you have no clue about TQ, hey maybe if they put arenas or BF areas on TQ you may know wtf you are talking about.

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