Originally by: Mr Blonde

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Edited by: Mr Blonde on 14/08/2004 12:44:38
From first hand experience I can say that the CA log even when they outnumber our Viziam fleet 5 to 1. Last time they didnt log though, and engaged our fleet of 3 frigates with 15 - 1 odds. We managed to kill 30 of them before flying out to repair (12 Battleships). When we came back to kill the rest they did a log on trap, and had 120 ships, and 2 of us died, but we took down another 20 ships from them.

The only people that can really PvP are FA and CFS because everytime we attack them they only need 1 ship to kill our entire fleet of 56 people.


So those of you that think CA are good, think again.

Ps we only kill other people because we can.

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Originally by: Mr Blonde

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Edited by: Mr Blonde on 14/08/2004 12:44:38
From first hand experience I can say that the CA log even when they outnumber our Viziam fleet 5 to 1. Last time they didnt log though, and engaged our fleet of 3 frigates with 15 - 1 odds. We managed to kill 30 of them before flying out to repair (12 Battleships). When we came back to kill the rest they did a log on trap, and had 120 ships, and 2 of us died, but we took down another 20 ships from them.

The only people that can really PvP are FA and CFS because everytime we attack them they only need 1 ship to kill our entire fleet of 56 people.


So those of you that think CA are good, think again.

Ps we only kill other people because we can.

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Originally by: Shiwan Khan

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I have been in CA 8+ months and in all that time, all those military ops with many many many many many different types of people, we have NEVER used log-on tactics.

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Originally by: Shiwan Khan

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I have been in CA 8+ months and in all that time, all those military ops with many many many many many different types of people, we have NEVER used log-on tactics.

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Originally by: Mituno Sakai

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Edited by: Mituno Sakai on 14/08/2004 11:54:36
Edited by: Mituno Sakai on 14/08/2004 11:54:07
Some of the replies on this thread illlutstrates a good point.

CA person 1 (Shiwan):

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all those military ops with many many many many many different types of people, we have NEVER used log-on tactics.

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CA person 2 (Masochist):

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You're in a PVP corp, you should know that sometimes you HAVE to log just to get the enemy to whittle down to even numbers.

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I know its easy to gun for the CA but those guys are a friggin riot on forums. I still remember the time when a rogue CA member confirmed on these forums that CA payed m0o to attack Fountain several months ago.

I have never seen FA act in such an amateurish manner.

Most of the other alliances reeks of just being put together to have a strong online pvp force and blow up as much stuff as possible. 90% of their activities seems to be centered around combat or piracy.

The FA have always come across a little different to me.

NO they are not the most powerfull pvp force. They have numbers and some really good pilots but to be perfectly frank they havent fought nearly as much as CA or SA for example. It would be illogical to assume that entities like m0oevolrkk etc, atuk, CA and SA havent build up some more experience during endless months of fighting.

I does however seem like the FA has the military force they need to do what they want and go where they want with the game.

A recent study by CCP revealed that FA corporations were in fact very high on the Eve "popularity board" (you didnt see any of the other alliances represented with good numbers in the top 10). I would guess that this is because FA tries to act in a manner that is directly the opposite of, for example, CA.

If you have payed attention on the forums you would have noticed that even the "little people" get taken serious if they have grievances with the FA. You remember the guy complaining about being attacked by an FA member in empire space? You remember what happened? FA booted the guy and he joined 1 of the corps that bash FA on this exact thread.

I find it reassuring that the FA isnt all about getting people together in large fleets and shooting whatever comes your way and just say "go to hell" to everybody that doesnt turn up blue. Players can interact with the FA in other ways than through combat.

I know we are all speculating about how the stations in Shiva will work and how the whole "fight for territory" line from CCP will get implemented.

If the system is to have any merit CCP has to grant the controllers of territory some distinct advantages as a reward. This is only logical since it will require a lot of ressources in ships, manpower and minerals to sustain.

If such a system is created the ONLY place I would put my isk in 0 sec space would be Fountain. The rest of the Eve frontier is chaos. You cannot build anything if you have 70% of Eve roaming through your systems bend on your destruction month after month.

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Originally by: Mituno Sakai

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Edited by: Mituno Sakai on 14/08/2004 11:54:36
Edited by: Mituno Sakai on 14/08/2004 11:54:07
Some of the replies on this thread illlutstrates a good point.

CA person 1 (Shiwan):

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all those military ops with many many many many many different types of people, we have NEVER used log-on tactics.

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CA person 2 (Masochist):

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You're in a PVP corp, you should know that sometimes you HAVE to log just to get the enemy to whittle down to even numbers.

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I know its easy to gun for the CA but those guys are a friggin riot on forums. I still remember the time when a rogue CA member confirmed on these forums that CA payed m0o to attack Fountain several months ago.

I have never seen FA act in such an amateurish manner.

Most of the other alliances reeks of just being put together to have a strong online pvp force and blow up as much stuff as possible. 90% of their activities seems to be centered around combat or piracy.

The FA have always come across a little different to me.

NO they are not the most powerfull pvp force. They have numbers and some really good pilots but to be perfectly frank they havent fought nearly as much as CA or SA for example. It would be illogical to assume that entities like m0oevolrkk etc, atuk, CA and SA havent build up some more experience during endless months of fighting.

I does however seem like the FA has the military force they need to do what they want and go where they want with the game.

A recent study by CCP revealed that FA corporations were in fact very high on the Eve "popularity board" (you didnt see any of the other alliances represented with good numbers in the top 10). I would guess that this is because FA tries to act in a manner that is directly the opposite of, for example, CA.

If you have payed attention on the forums you would have noticed that even the "little people" get taken serious if they have grievances with the FA. You remember the guy complaining about being attacked by an FA member in empire space? You remember what happened? FA booted the guy and he joined 1 of the corps that bash FA on this exact thread.

I find it reassuring that the FA isnt all about getting people together in large fleets and shooting whatever comes your way and just say "go to hell" to everybody that doesnt turn up blue. Players can interact with the FA in other ways than through combat.

I know we are all speculating about how the stations in Shiva will work and how the whole "fight for territory" line from CCP will get implemented.

If the system is to have any merit CCP has to grant the controllers of territory some distinct advantages as a reward. This is only logical since it will require a lot of ressources in ships, manpower and minerals to sustain.

If such a system is created the ONLY place I would put my isk in 0 sec space would be Fountain. The rest of the Eve frontier is chaos. You cannot build anything if you have 70% of Eve roaming through your systems bend on your destruction month after month.

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I can't believe CA are out right denying they use log tactics, when I have had first hand experience, as have many others of them using sucj tactics.

Guess its to much for them to be honest about it

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I can't believe CA are out right denying they use log tactics, when I have had first hand experience, as have many others of them using sucj tactics.

Guess its to much for them to be honest about it

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Originally by: Mr Blackwell

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CA sux thay are just bunch of ghay wannabes.
I thought that they where at least good at flaming but no.


Power to the ghay ppl




*Love boat takes another run*

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Originally by: Mr Blackwell

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CA sux thay are just bunch of ghay wannabes.
I thought that they where at least good at flaming but no.


Power to the ghay ppl




*Love boat takes another run*

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Originally by: Jozo

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Originally by: DigitalCommunist

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I find it so hypocritical that one alliance would say to another alliance "yeah, your pvp tactics are lame", and "yeah, GJ ganking our miners and indies", yet in the end, all alliances are virtually identical when it comes to warfare.

The only thing differentiating one from another is which has more experienced pilots.


tactics and coward tactics i have no doubt (no wonder why CA is so strong)they log of at every chance they get.

conclusion CA cowards FA may be the same but what i have seen from CA so far is ANYTHING BUT IMPRESSIVE.

shinra is main corp in this reply they are the worst cowards in EVE at this point. be outnumbered then we log but when scout notices someone we suddenly have 20 shinra pilots everywhere. (my only comment is to start as CA and mOo have started) THIS A EXPLOIT BAN CA THEY USE EXPLOITS.(then again if ccp do that we have noone to gank)


I've seen SA,xetic & FA both do the same so go away.

Originally by: Jozo

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Originally by: DigitalCommunist

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I find it so hypocritical that one alliance would say to another alliance "yeah, your pvp tactics are lame", and "yeah, GJ ganking our miners and indies", yet in the end, all alliances are virtually identical when it comes to warfare.

The only thing differentiating one from another is which has more experienced pilots.


tactics and coward tactics i have no doubt (no wonder why CA is so strong)they log of at every chance they get.

conclusion CA cowards FA may be the same but what i have seen from CA so far is ANYTHING BUT IMPRESSIVE.

shinra is main corp in this reply they are the worst cowards in EVE at this point. be outnumbered then we log but when scout notices someone we suddenly have 20 shinra pilots everywhere. (my only comment is to start as CA and mOo have started) THIS A EXPLOIT BAN CA THEY USE EXPLOITS.(then again if ccp do that we have noone to gank)


I've seen SA,xetic & FA both do the same so go away.