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Sevarus James Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2009.03.09 09:29:00 - [1] Edited by: Sevarus James on 09/03/2009 09:37:13 Edited by: Sevarus James on 09/03/2009 09:35:31 Edited by: Sevarus James on 09/03/2009 09:33:40 In game channel for linux wine support: "linux" This channel is available on SISI as well. Link for EVE Wine installation wiki: EVE WIKI-WINE Nvidia specific driver link: NV News Forum Linux Section Driver sticky Any other informative threads, just reply here and I'll add em' to this post. Cascade, you mentioned it below for info stickyin', so here ya go. Updated Ubuntu Compiz-Linux Desktop+EVE Premium
Sevarus James Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2009.03.10 20:36:00 - [2] Edited by: Sevarus James on 10/03/2009 20:44:40 Full manual patch link information here: First Patch Second Patch First patch incorrectly says: 75883-84244. In reality it actually is the 75883-83913 big patch. Install that one first, and then after that is done patching, download and run the second patch labeled: 83913-84244 Reserved for more links. Updated Ubuntu Compiz-Linux Desktop+EVE Premium
Sevarus James Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2009.03.13 14:25:00 - [3] I'm requesting some links for ATI drivers to include in the top post. As an nvidia head, I'm not as familiar with driver download locations/updates other than AMD's main ATI site. If there any other locations worth linking, please post the replies here and I'll get them into the top info post. Thanks in advance, Unca Sev Updated Ubuntu Compiz-Linux Desktop+EVE Premium
Ho55	Posted - 2009.03.13 20:08:00 - [4] as a relative newb to linux, id appreciate some help on how to patch wine, please
Doublewhopper	Posted - 2009.03.14 11:52:00 - [5] Edited by: Doublewhopper on 14/03/2009 11:53:00 Patching and compiling wine: 1.) Get wine-1.1.17 source and the appropriate patch from this thread: http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17437 2.) Extract wine: tar xvfj wine-1.1.17.bz2 3.) Copy patch to wine-1.1.17 directory and patch there: patch -p1 < apocrypha.shaders.1.1.17.patch 4.) Compile and install wine (compile as user and install as root) ./configure make depend make make install 4a.) get all dependencies that are missing and are causing ./configure to fail to run through (most work intensive part for the first time compilation), then try ./configure again until all is satisfied
Kudzuu	Posted - 2009.03.14 22:40:00 - [6] Originally by: Doublewhopper Edited by: Doublewhopper on 14/03/2009 11:53:00 Patching and compiling wine: 1.) Get wine-1.1.17 source and the appropriate patch from this thread: http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17437 2.) Extract wine: tar xvfj wine-1.1.17.bz2 3.) Copy patch to wine-1.1.17 directory and patch there: patch -p1 < apocrypha.shaders.1.1.17.patch 4.) Compile and install wine (compile as user and install as root) ./configure make depend make make install 4a.) get all dependencies that are missing and are causing ./configure to fail to run through (most work intensive part for the first time compilation), then try ./configure again until all is satisfied 64-bit users may have trouble following these instructions. To compile wine 32-bit on a 64-bit system, follow the instructions on: http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit From their web page: wget http://winezeug.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/install-wine-deps.sh sudo sh install-wine-deps.sh This will ix your dependency problems.
Esme Nomarra	Posted - 2009.03.17 19:49:00 - [7] Edited by: Esme Nomarra on 17/03/2009 19:49:55 Originally by: Doublewhopper 4.) Compile and install wine (compile as user and install as root) ./configure make depend make make install Many thanks for the info, but for those of us who've never compiled anything (me, for one!), could you expand on the above please? At which point do you need to switch to root? And for Ubuntu users, will sudo be sufficient, or will we need to sudo su?
Sevarus James Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2009.03.18 02:16:00 - [8] Originally by: Esme Nomarra Many thanks for the info, but for those of us who've never compiled anything (me, for one!), could you expand on the above please? At which point do you need to switch to root? And for Ubuntu users, will sudo be sufficient, or will we need to sudo su? First off, is there actually a NEED to compile? If you need the patch to wine, then yes, I see it, but for the rest, just following the link in the sticky above to eveaholic's site and follow the directions for ubuntu oughta' get you going just fine. Now if you DO need to, here is the sequence: FIRST and MOST important! See this link: Recommended packages! This has a script file (.sh) for ubuntu depending on distribution. (iirc this needs sudo to run the script properly, but it will get EVERYTHING you need to compile wine in one big swoop. Not wine itself, but all of the things that ./configure will whine about during the first step.) I cannot stress enough to get THIS FIRST if you are going to compile wine from source or git!!!!!!!! Now, when all that is done, and you've got the source extracted to a wine-xxx directory change to that directory and do this after you've applied the patch you want to the source. ./configure (in the downloaded source wine directory) (NO ROOT, NO SUDO!) make depend && make (one line does both and again: NO ROOT!, NO SUDO!) go have coffee and dinner on this part. Last: sudo make install (here you need sudo so that wine can place the usr/bin files in their proper places. It is the ONLY place you need to do a sudo (for ubuntu) or SU/ROOT for other distros. Updated Ubuntu Compiz-Linux Desktop+EVE Premium
Gilbert T Gallente Doom Guard	Posted - 2009.03.18 08:24:00 - [9] Edited by: Gilbert T on 18/03/2009 08:25:52 New patch
Esme Nomarra	Posted - 2009.03.18 19:27:00 - [10] Thank you, Sevarus, and yes, there is need - else I would not have asked. At the moment it's looking likely that if patching Wine doesn't work, then EVE will remain unplayable on my system, in which case I'll simply take a break from EVE for a while before trying again, from a fresh install.

silent relay	Posted - 2009.03.19 01:13:00 - [11] hi there, this info quiet helpful ,but i still having problems i can't get father than licensing screen,there is nothing to scroll down , im f stock on that,,,,, any ideas? latest drivers from envidia, latest wine....... crap i so fu***** disappointed in EVE
Gilbert T Gallente Doom Guard	Posted - 2009.03.19 09:33:00 - [12] Originally by: silent relay Edited by: silent relay on 19/03/2009 01:44:31 Edited by: silent relay on 19/03/2009 01:25:36 hi there, this info quiet helpful ,but i still having problems i can't get father than licensing screen,there is nothing to scroll down , im f stock on that,,,,, any ideas? latest drivers from envidia, latest wine....... crap i so fu*** disappointed in EVE is the F** kick on ass for those who been playing for years and now stop supporting caz they different and not supporting MICRO SHUIT (WINDOWS) ,..... shaime on you EVE team.... We're all a little bit upset about this, but I think the main reason why they dropped linux support was probably because Transgaming wasn't doing their job. They kept them on board for a year past their deadline, and still no premium client on Cedega. So, anyway, your anger would probably be best directed at the TG team.
Nora Smith Gallente Dragon Corporation	Posted - 2009.03.19 10:13:00 - [13] Edited by: Nora Smith on 19/03/2009 10:20:54 Originally by: Gilbert T We're all a little bit upset about this, but I think the main reason why they dropped linux support was probably because Transgaming wasn't doing their job. They kept them on board for a year past their deadline, and still no premium client on Cedega. So, anyway, your anger would probably be best directed at the TG team. The reason was simply that no one was actually using the official Cedega based client, because it just sucked. Some examples are: regular crashes, many graphical glitches (e.g. the map browser showed junk), no unicode support, no clipboard support, and, at last: no premium content. Linux users, who tried the official client (including me), replaced it quickly by wine and the regular windows client, as this combination just worked better. I fully understand and support CCP's decision, I'm even glad that Transgaming isn't getting any more money for their crap. They took the Wine code, made it closed source, added functionality and sold it as their very own product. That was absolutely legal, as the Wine license permitted it, but they never gave back anything to the Wine project, neither money from their revenues nor their code enhancements, and that led to a license switch by the Wine devs to the GNU GPL. After that change, Transgaming couldn't legally take any new code from the Wine project, and that's why Cedega is far behind the current Wine features. We all know that porting EVE to OpenGL and other platforms is more than a huge project, since they need to almost rewrite the whole client from scratch. And, als already said by CCP officals, making sure that every new EVE version is working with all Wine version in use out there is unmanageable. That's something WE as the community should take in our hands by reporting bugs and regressions to the wine devs, and help them fixing them.
silent relay	Posted - 2009.03.24 22:20:00 - [14] hi again,, sorry for my anger in a previous post, bit upset about that , i didnt have any problems on cedega, but now on wine nothing works ,,,,... I CANT GET FARER THAN LICENSING cant see that f* license to scroll down .... ANY IDEAS WHAT TO DO?! latest wine,latest drivers from nvidea,,,,
Sevarus James Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2009.03.25 13:10:00 - [15] Originally by: silent relay hi again,, sorry for my anger in a previous post, bit upset about that , i didnt have any problems on cedega, but now on wine nothing works ,,,,... I CANT GET FARER THAN LICENSING cant see that f* license to scroll down .... ANY IDEAS WHAT TO DO?! latest wine,latest drivers from nvidea,,,, This isn't the thread for those questions. Please refer to the threads below this sticky for answers, OR post a new thread requesting help. This thread should be used for links. Updated Ubuntu Compiz-Linux Desktop+EVE Premium
Bruce Blacky Minmatar The Old Comrades Association The Second Genesis	Posted - 2009.03.26 12:39:00 - [16] Edited by: Bruce Blacky on 26/03/2009 12:45:05 Edited by: Bruce Blacky on 26/03/2009 12:41:20 NEW PATCH: (apocrypha update 1.02) http://ccp.vo.llnwd.net/o2/evepremiumpatch84609-85476_m.exe new patch linkage hmmm the update doesnt work for me :-( i get some strange error message with just an ok button and nothing understandable or readable in the message box any ideas?
Ainur Sefarin	Posted - 2009.03.26 12:59:00 - [17] Originally by: Bruce Blacky hmmm the update doesnt work for me :-( i get some strange error message with just an ok button and nothing understandable or readable in the message box any ideas? I had the same problem, both with auto-update and when i downloaded the 85476 patch manually. I also tried both "evepremiumpatch84609-85476.exe" and "evepremiumpatch84609-85476_m.exe" FYI: i use gentoo 2.6.24-r8, nvidia drivers 180.37 (geforce6200) and wine 1.1.16
Miraqu Caldari	Posted - 2009.03.26 18:04:00 - [18] It was suggested in the ingame linux-channel that you should try to set your windows version in winecfg to xp. Maybe you could play around with that version a little :P
Ravow Minmatar Cosmic Encounter	Posted - 2009.04.13 03:22:00 - [19] I just posted the patch for Wine 1.1.19 on WineHQ site.
Agent Known Apotheosis of Virtue	Posted - 2009.04.29 06:01:00 - [20] Pssst, TeamSpeak 2 also works in Wine. Use that instead of the Linux client (which has horrible...and I mean HORRIBLE, sound quality). Push-to-talk functions inside of EVE or with any wine-based application open, but doesn't work with Linux apps focused. The Vent hack doesn't seem to work with TS (even though someone said it does). Meh...I'm still fighting with the damn thing. ATI drivers suck when it comes to getting this game working. First it'd freeze my entire display forcing a reboot, then it would hang, then I finally got in with a black environment and errors flooding. It seems I have the worst of luck. Compiles wine with another patch for the 3rd time Obviously what I say isn't always what my alliance thinks. I hate to break it to you, but this is in fact my signature.


CCP Gangleri Minmatar	Posted - 2009.10.23 16:40:00 - [21] Would you guys want this channel linked to in the 'Other' section of the in game UI? ------------------

Kolon Dark Gallente Steel Beasts Sev3rance	Posted - 2009.10.26 13:05:00 - [22] Originally by: CCP Gangleri Would you guys want this channel linked to in the 'Other' section of the in game UI? IMHO it won't hurt, at least.;-)
Ravow Minmatar Cosmic Encounter BULLFROG.	Posted - 2009.10.26 15:54:00 - [23] Yes! It will be easy to find for new Linux player who don't read the forum.
Valeo Galaem New Eden Advanced Reconnaissance Unit Sentient World Observation and Response Directive	Posted - 2009.10.26 18:23:00 - [24] Third on making the channel official. I assume this will be added in the Dominion update? Thar be Pirates You are not authorised to hack into CONCORD's mainframe Your Wallet has been emptied! CONCORD Encryption Methods

CCP Gangleri Minmatar	Posted - 2009.10.27 11:01:00 - [25] Linux is now listed under Other in the channel UI. ------------------

Karak Terrel	Posted - 2009.11.21 23:36:00 - [26] Originally by: CCP Gangleri Edited by: CCP Gangleri on 30/10/2009 21:53:03 Linux is now listed under Other in the channel UI. Nice! Btw we got the first spamer last week

CCP Gangleri Minmatar	Posted - 2009.11.24 17:46:00 - [27] It should be a little easier moderating the channel after Dec 1st, we're adding a "Report ISK spammer" right click option


CCP Gangleri Minmatar	Posted - 2009.11.24 17:50:00 - [28] It should be a little easier moderating the channel after Dec 1st, we're adding a "Report ISK spammer" right click option


CCP Gangleri Minmatar	Posted - 2009.12.01 19:18:00 - [29] Unfortunately the upgrade of the channel to a system one wiped the MOTD so you guys will have to rebuild it, here is the last backup I could find (sans all the formatting): Originally by: old linux MOTD EVE Linux Forum section OOG: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=channel&channelID=630463 EVE Linux Information and links thread: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1017452 Current OPS: Sevarus James, Ravow, ChristofDeluca, KtoJest. Post in EVE forums for OP status to help cover timezones will be up before 3-28-09. ------------------

Solbright Advanced Security And Asset Protection	Posted - 2009.12.02 22:56:00 - [30] The channel setting of Delayed member listing is annoying. Would be nice to have Immediate mode back again. I presume that's something an operator can change. ----- The Eve Client - A Love Story - The single biggest fix CCP ever did to Eve. Keep it up!

Nimtra Minmatar	Posted - 2009.12.09 21:31:00 - [31] Well I tried Mono yesterday and running the "regular" Evemon. It works great, problem is getting the binaries out of the installer. But you might be able to use winetricks to get .net in wine then install it in wine, copy the binaries wherever you want and use mono to run it. The installer wont continue if you dont have .net in wine . I just had an old installation of Evemon, so I just copied those and updated. Or you just get one of the development packages since those are in .zip format. I got mono-runtime 2.4.2.3+dfsg-3, I think you'll also need the libmono-winforms if its not yet installed. But since mono is already installed on Ubuntu (Not on Fedora it seems) to run e.g. Tomboy you should be able to run Evemon with "mono EVEMon.exe". (Pay attention, on some systems wine executes everything that stops with .exe if you click on it) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ EVEFleets - The fastest way to find fleets
Onyx47 Caldari U-208 Blade.	Posted - 2009.12.14 23:22:00 - [32] Would be nice if link to pyfa could also be added to the first post. pyfa is a multiplatform alternative to EFT and works great :) Python Fitting Assistant (pyfa)
Solbright Advanced Security And Asset Protection	Posted - 2009.12.15 22:17:00 - [33] Except that, unlike Evemon, EFT uses a decent compiler and has not been a problem to run so never really needed replacing. ----- The Eve Client - A Love Story - The single biggest fix CCP ever did to Eve. Keep it up!
Skauq	Posted - 2010.03.05 12:40:00 - [34] Originally by: Solbright Except that, unlike Evemon, EFT uses a decent compiler and has not been a problem to run so never really needed replacing. No, it runs. But it doesn't draw properly on any wine I've tried, and pyfa just seems to be generally better in every way. Not specifically related to Eve, but links to Mumble, the completely open source voip program and Mangler, the open source Ventrilo client might be nice.
Sable Blitzmann Minmatar Eve University	Posted - 2010.03.05 18:18:00 - [35] Just tried pyfa out, it's amazing. I never cared much for EFT's interface or GUI -- it always looked clunky and out of place. But this is great. AND open-source. =D
Solbright Advanced Security And Asset Protection	Posted - 2010.03.06 16:32:00 - [36] Here's a quote from pyfa's website - "The layout of pyfa heavily based on EFT, the EVE fitting tool." I guess you don't much care for pyfa's interface then either. :/ ----- The Eve Client - A Love Story - The single biggest fix CCP ever did to Eve. Keep it up!
Shalamar Bladesinger	Posted - 2010.04.27 00:05:00 - [37] Edited by: Shalamar Bladesinger on 27/04/2010 00:05:29 i'm having some troble to get eve even working on ubuntu right now. an error comes up saying somthing that i have to go to wine hq, but the game ping(yes i said pings) every computer but the internet. how do i fix this? Also the splash screen comes up and then goes away. and nothing any more.
Solbright Advanced Security And Asset Protection	Posted - 2010.04.27 02:11:00 - [38] Read more of this forum for solutions and if that doesn't help then start a new thread of your own with details of your system and settings. ----- The Eve Client - A Love Story - The single biggest fix CCP ever did to Eve. Keep it up!
Sevarus James Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2010.06.08 01:17:00 - [39] After a r/l break I'm back in a limited way. I'll surf this thread and a few of the others and update the page one post with new links to apps and fixes that have cropped up. Updated Arch64 Compiz-Linux Desktop Who is John Galt?
Shinsu Tokugawa	Posted - 2010.06.14 18:14:00 - [40] Forget about running Ventrilo under wine.. get Mangler. http://www.mangler.org/download/ a vent compatible Linux program... works a treat..

wootywoot	Posted - 2010.08.22 09:09:00 - [41] Originally by: Shinsu Tokugawa Forget about running Ventrilo under wine.. get Mangler. http://www.mangler.org/download/ a vent compatible Linux program... works a treat.. +1 mangler is awesome and the devs on irc are pretty cool too
Sakatana	Posted - 2010.09.21 08:06:00 - [42] For everyone running Ubuntu, mangler is in apt under the package name "mangler" if you hadn't already figured that out. I have been running it for a few months and have had no issues. I actually like it more than I like Ventrilo.
Assassin126	Posted - 2010.09.30 20:49:00 - [43] Edited by: Assassin126 on 30/09/2010 20:50:26 Mangler is a good program to use instead of vent, it will connect to a vent server and ive had no problems with it, just install and play :) Linky


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