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Klarion Sythis
Bite Me inc Exhale.
11
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Posted - 2012.06.05 00:09:00 -
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George Mahyisti wrote:Right not im sitting at 12million sp (closer to 13) whats the chance of me getting into one of thse big Wh corps to do some pew pew? That's going to depend partly on what you spent the 13m SP on. If you have the right skills, and clear a background check, you might be fine. I'd recommend doing some research on corps you think you might be interested in. Many of them will state what requirements they have, if their recruitment is even open, and what they're all about. To be honest, the SP sounds quite low to be able to effectively participate in W-Space, so here's hoping that it's well focused.
The biggest thing I can tell you is that initiative is appreciated in wormholes because things to do rarely find you. When they do, it's more about things being done to you. So make sure you put in some effort when researching a potential corp. Too many people make a thread or post that shows everyone involved in the W-Space community that they can't be bothered to read even a single thread before asking people to give them some EVE. Once you know who you'd like to be a part of, you'll probably know if you're ready. |
Mumtaz Khan
Team Pizza
42
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Posted - 2012.06.05 01:46:00 -
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Of course it's not possible that all corps will always be able to fight; this is especially true for lower-class wormholes (C4 and lower), where you have smaller, less experienced corporations getting started. However, this kind of behavior is unacceptable in C5/C6 space. Higher-class wormholes are considered to be "end-game" content, and as such are inherently very risky. Corps looking to live in them need to accept this risk.
If you are going to throw a bunch of capitals and T3s into a site to run escalations, you'd better accept the possibility that you may lose them. It is unacceptable that a corp should be allowed to run sites for months on end, but get dropped on once, and self-destruct. It's this selfish and spiteful behavior that produces a lazy, risk-averse community akin to that of incursions.
Even when Team Pizza's first weeks in C5 space, we committed to "good fights." We haven't always been able to field numbers to counter fleets, and we're pretty awful at pvp (Aquila can attest), so it's not a question of experience or ability, it's a question of attitude. We have run into corps who haven't been able to match our fleet comps, so we have actually sent people back to arrange good fights, yet some corps, even with far superior numbers and ships will flat-out refuse fights.
This battle report today pretty much speaks for itself:
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=13570619
A fair fight you would think: two triage thanatos and spider-tanked navy scorps versus a meager amount of DPS, one bhaalgorn and two guardians. Yet, had the rest of them manned up and stayed on the field instead of wussing out and stranding the rest of their fleet in a bubble, they would have easily melted through our logi. |
Ayeson
Hard Knocks Inc.
36
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Posted - 2012.06.05 02:18:00 -
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George Mahyisti wrote:Right not im sitting at 12million sp (closer to 13) whats the chance of me getting into one of thse big Wh corps to do some pew pew?
Depends what kind of person you are, Sell me. Ask me about Rengas-dar, HRDKX's Most recent, groundbreaking, game-changing, wormhole-collapsing research endeavour. |
Bernie Nator
Talocan Hive Talocan United
293
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Posted - 2012.06.05 03:04:00 -
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I tend to disagree with putting a thread up of all the bad wormhole corps. Most of the large WH groups know the bad corps/alliances, and it would just leave a poor taste in everyone's mouth. I say we use the "Your Bane" thread to help people identify the bad groups, and leave this just for letting people who we are and what we do. |
Nathan Jameson
Talocan Dominion Talocan United
408
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Posted - 2012.06.05 03:37:00 -
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Bernie Nator wrote:I tend to disagree with putting a thread up of all the bad wormhole corps. Most of the large WH groups know the bad corps/alliances, and it would just leave a poor taste in everyone's mouth.
Confirming we need more drama in WH space.
Wait, no we don't. |
Senn Denroth
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
4
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Posted - 2012.06.05 03:43:00 -
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Mumtaz Khan wrote:Of course it's not possible that all corps will always be able to fight; this is especially true for lower-class wormholes (C4 and lower), where you have smaller, less experienced corporations getting started. However, this kind of behavior is unacceptable in C5/C6 space. Higher-class wormholes are considered to be "end-game" content, and as such are inherently very risky. Corps looking to live in them need to accept this risk. If you are going to throw a bunch of capitals and T3s into a site to run escalations, you'd better accept the possibility that you may lose them. It is unacceptable that a corp should be allowed to run sites for months on end, but get dropped on once, and self-destruct. It's this selfish and spiteful behavior that produces a lazy, risk-averse community akin to that of incursions. Even when Team Pizza's first weeks in C5 space, we committed to "good fights." We haven't always been able to field numbers to counter fleets, and we're pretty awful at pvp (Aquila can attest), so it's not a question of experience or ability, it's a question of attitude. We have run into corps who haven't been able to match our fleet comps, so we have actually sent people back to arrange good fights, yet some corps, even with far superior numbers and ships will flat-out refuse fights. This battle report today pretty much speaks for itself: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=13570619A fair fight you would think: two triage thanatos and spider-tanked navy scorps versus a meager amount of DPS, one bhaalgorn and two guardians. Yet, had the rest of them manned up and stayed on the field instead of wussing out and stranding the rest of their fleet in a bubble, they would have easily melted through our logi.
Well said.
Also, confirming that Team Pizza fight even when outnumbered.
We did expect to be fighting more ships that one time, but hard knocks ran pretty fast we couldn't catch up with them. |
Cybus Max
Bite Me inc Exhale.
4
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Posted - 2012.06.05 08:27:00 -
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Meh we find hard knocks fight if you stick a bait legion on a WH :P |
Lord Azori
Team Pizza
12
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Posted - 2012.06.05 12:10:00 -
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We didn't make the list.....sad panda. I guess it's back to blowing up more s***. |
Ayeson
Hard Knocks Inc.
36
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Posted - 2012.06.05 15:22:00 -
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Senn Denroth wrote:We did expect to be fighting more ships that one time, but hard knocks ran pretty fast we couldn't catch up with them.
We can move pretty quick when we want to... :D
'Cybus Max" wrote:Meh we find hard knocks fight if you stick a bait legion on a WH :P
You know i love bait cybus Ask me about Rengas-dar, HRDKX's Most recent, groundbreaking, game-changing, wormhole-collapsing research endeavour. |
ROSSLINDEN0
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
34
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Posted - 2012.06.05 17:55:00 -
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Mumtaz Khan wrote:Of course it's not possible that all corps will always be able to fight; this is especially true for lower-class wormholes (C4 and lower), where you have smaller, less experienced corporations getting started. However, this kind of behavior is unacceptable in C5/C6 space. Higher-class wormholes are considered to be "end-game" content, and as such are inherently very risky. Corps looking to live in them need to accept this risk. If you are going to throw a bunch of capitals and T3s into a site to run escalations, you'd better accept the possibility that you may lose them. It is unacceptable that a corp should be allowed to run sites for months on end, but get dropped on once, and self-destruct. It's this selfish and spiteful behavior that produces a lazy, risk-averse community akin to that of incursions. Even when Team Pizza's first weeks in C5 space, we committed to "good fights." We haven't always been able to field numbers to counter fleets, and we're pretty awful at pvp (Aquila can attest), so it's not a question of experience or ability, it's a question of attitude. We have run into corps who haven't been able to match our fleet comps, so we have actually sent people back to arrange good fights, yet some corps, even with far superior numbers and ships will flat-out refuse fights. This battle report today pretty much speaks for itself: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=13570619A fair fight you would think: two triage thanatos and spider-tanked navy scorps versus a meager amount of DPS, one bhaalgorn and two guardians. Yet, had the rest of them manned up and stayed on the field instead of wussing out and stranding the rest of their fleet in a bubble, they would have easily melted through our logi.
If only they where like you guys and fight with honour! nevermind youll get those carrier km's next time!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kd8TbEwJ4gs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0OXAOfsNtM |
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StarFleetCommander
V0LTA Verge of Collapse
14
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Posted - 2012.06.05 18:34:00 -
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Cybus Max wrote:Meh we find hard knocks fight if you stick a bait legion on a WH :P
Freighters work better |
Ayeson
Hard Knocks Inc.
36
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Posted - 2012.06.05 19:07:00 -
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StarFleetCommander wrote:Cybus Max wrote:Meh we find hard knocks fight if you stick a bait legion on a WH :P Freighters work better
Also a true statement, we are big fans of freighters...especially when they're in places they don't belong... :D Ask me about Rengas-dar, HRDKX's Most recent, groundbreaking, game-changing, wormhole-collapsing research endeavour. |
Bernie Nator
Talocan Hive Talocan United
293
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Posted - 2012.06.05 20:57:00 -
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Ayeson wrote:StarFleetCommander wrote:Cybus Max wrote:Meh we find hard knocks fight if you stick a bait legion on a WH :P Freighters work better Also a true statement, we are big fans of freighters...especially when they're in places they don't belong... :D Like high sec? |
Ayeson
Hard Knocks Inc.
36
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Posted - 2012.06.05 21:59:00 -
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Bernie Nator wrote:Like high sec? Well I meant like, on C3's.
Ask me about Rengas-dar, HRDKX's Most recent, groundbreaking, game-changing, wormhole-collapsing research endeavour. |
Bernie Nator
Talocan Hive Talocan United
293
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Posted - 2012.06.05 22:04:00 -
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Ayeson wrote:Bernie Nator wrote:Like high sec? Well I meant like, on C3's. They totally belong there.
For target practice, of course. |
Ayeson
Hard Knocks Inc.
36
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Posted - 2012.06.05 22:05:00 -
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Bingo Bango Ask me about Rengas-dar, HRDKX's Most recent, groundbreaking, game-changing, wormhole-collapsing research endeavour. |
StarScream26
Team Pizza
6
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Posted - 2012.06.06 14:11:00 -
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ROSSLINDEN0 wrote:
If only they where like you guys and fight with honour! nevermind youll get those carrier km's next time!
yeah, We will, We just need to bring enough DPS to beat their SD timers next time. |
StarFleetCommander
V0LTA Verge of Collapse
14
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Posted - 2012.06.10 22:53:00 -
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Bernie Nator wrote:Ayeson wrote:Bernie Nator wrote:Like high sec? Well I meant like, on C3's. They totally belong there. For target practice, of course.
Or bait in disguise ;) |
Ayeson
Hard Knocks Inc.
39
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Posted - 2012.06.10 22:55:00 -
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Freighter Bait. Best Bait.
Also, starfleet, can we roam null again soon? I want to take the ridiculously expensive loki out again Ask me about Rengas-dar, HRDKX's Most recent, groundbreaking, game-changing, wormhole-collapsing research endeavour. |
Doc Hollidai
V0LTA Verge of Collapse
5
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Posted - 2012.06.11 23:59:00 -
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Ayeson wrote:Freighter Bait. Best Bait.
Also, starfleet, can we roam null again soon? I want to take the ridiculously expensive loki out again
You must first offer up a tengu to me... |
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Ayeson
Hard Knocks Inc.
39
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Posted - 2012.06.12 00:01:00 -
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Doc Hollidai wrote:Ayeson wrote:Freighter Bait. Best Bait.
Also, starfleet, can we roam null again soon? I want to take the ridiculously expensive loki out again You must first offer up a tengu to me...
So is it like.... One roam a day for One tengu? Thats not a bad deal...Can it be shitfit? Ask me about Rengas-dar, HRDKX's Most recent, groundbreaking, game-changing, wormhole-collapsing research endeavour. |
Gnaw LF
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
73
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Posted - 2012.06.15 21:31:00 -
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Half the month is gone, so we updated the stats tool to include everyone from the first post of this thread.
http://whkills.info/stats/
Please check to make sure that numbers are valid and if they aren't just make a mention here. As always we will keep working on the tool.
In the meantime Chitsa should probably list the criteria corps / alliance need to meet in order to become Notable. |
Bane Nucleus
The Kairos Syndicate Transmission Lost
73
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Posted - 2012.06.16 00:46:00 -
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Gnaw LF wrote:
In the meantime Chitsa should probably list the criteria corps / alliance need to meet in order to become Notable.
Again, appreciate all the work to make this.
As far as criteria, would a minimum time in wh space be good for that? Say "you must be in wh space for at least X months. Alliance Diplomat, Recruiter |
Klarion Sythis
Bite Me inc Exhale.
13
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Posted - 2012.06.16 02:39:00 -
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Bane Nucleus wrote:Gnaw LF wrote:
In the meantime Chitsa should probably list the criteria corps / alliance need to meet in order to become Notable.
Again, appreciate all the work to make this. As far as criteria, would a minimum time in wh space be good for that? Say "you must be in wh space for at least X months. Not that it's a bad idea, but existence doesn't imply noteworthiness.
Combine that with a metric of pvp activity and it would be good.
Established in W-Space 6+ months, 40+ members, 5b+ isk killed per month. Something like that to filter out the entities that keep to themselves whenever possible. |
Janus Nanzikambe
Fer Lomarcan Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
2
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Posted - 2012.06.16 08:55:00 -
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Gnaw LF wrote:Half the month is gone, so we updated the stats tool to include everyone from the first post of this thread.
I know it's easily calculable from the data presented; but would it be possible to show in a separate (and by extension, sortable) column the number of active pilots as a % of the total an entity has had in a month?
I'm sure everyone at some point has backed away from picking fights with alliances perceived as being huge, but a quick gander at that list shows some extremely high percentages of inactivity. I presume thats accounted for by either inactive players or carebears/alts or is there something I'm missing? On a side note I'd like to know Insidious Design & Exhale's secret, they have almost double the average activity
Thanks once again for this awesome resource :) The geek in me is looking forward to when there's a full year of data available so I can graph this to visualise trends. |
SojournerRover
Insidious Design
16
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Posted - 2012.06.18 12:11:00 -
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It is not a secret, Insidious does not allow members that have become inactive linger. ROVER (REDRUM)
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Bcrain21
Big Johnson's Ascendance.
0
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Posted - 2012.06.18 15:33:00 -
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So who's D*%! do I have to get one of members to suck to get on this list?
Also I am too obsessive compulsive to let members linger. Unless they have a good excuse such as military or other things going on in RL. I guess some people get spooked by big numbers but I think of it as more targets.
Insert stupid, not witty,not creative, and over used quote here. |
Gnaw LF
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
74
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Posted - 2012.06.18 17:49:00 -
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Janus Nanzikambe wrote:Gnaw LF wrote:Half the month is gone, so we updated the stats tool to include everyone from the first post of this thread.
I know it's easily calculable from the data presented; but would it be possible to show in a separate (and by extension, sortable) column the number of active pilots as a % of the total an entity has had in a month? I'm sure everyone at some point has backed away from picking fights with alliances perceived as being huge, but a quick gander at that list shows some extremely high percentages of inactivity. I presume thats accounted for by either inactive players or carebears/alts or is there something I'm missing? On a side note I'd like to know Insidious Design & Exhale's secret, they have almost double the average activity Thanks once again for this awesome resource :) The geek in me is looking forward to when there's a full year of data available so I can graph this to visualise trends.
Activity percentage of a corp/allaince has been added to the Stats list. |
Gnaw LF
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
74
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Posted - 2012.06.18 17:50:00 -
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Bcrain21 wrote:So who's D*%! do I have to get one of members to suck to get on this list?
Also I am too obsessive compulsive to let members linger. Unless they have a good excuse such as military or other things going on in RL. I guess some people get spooked by big numbers but I think of it as more targets.
Insert stupid, not witty,not creative, and over used quote here.
Dont know, Chitsa was supposed to post the requirements some time ago. |
Nathan Jameson
Talocan Dominion Talocan United
414
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Posted - 2012.06.18 17:59:00 -
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Gnaw LF wrote:Activity percentage of a corp/allaince has been added to the Stats list.
Oh now THAT is useful.
Thumbs up! |
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