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Gnaw LF
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
75
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Posted - 2012.06.18 19:15:00 -
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Nathan Jameson wrote:Gnaw LF wrote:Activity percentage of a corp/allaince has been added to the Stats list. Oh now THAT is useful. Thumbs up!
I will be a sad panda if that stat is used to invade less than active corps/alliances. However I do hope it will promote more good fights as smaller w-space entities can look at activity percentage and deduce that a fight rather than a gank is forming. |
Ayeson
Hard Knocks Inc.
39
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Posted - 2012.06.18 20:18:00 -
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Gnaw LF wrote:Nathan Jameson wrote:Gnaw LF wrote:Activity percentage of a corp/allaince has been added to the Stats list. Oh now THAT is useful. Thumbs up! I will be a sad panda if that stat is used to invade less than active corps/alliances. However I do hope it will promote more good fights as smaller w-space entities can look at activity percentage and deduce that a fight rather than a gank is forming.
If it were used for evil what would make me :upset:, but I love data.
If I may ask, what are you using to determine if a player is "Active"?
I'm assuming its showing up within a kill for the past 30 days or something like that... Ask me about Rengas-dar, HRDKX's Most recent, groundbreaking, game-changing, wormhole-collapsing research endeavour. |
Bane Nucleus
The Kairos Syndicate Transmission Lost
74
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Posted - 2012.06.18 20:44:00 -
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I am currently planning invasions of less active corps as we speak! Alliance Diplomat, Recruiter |
Gnaw LF
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
75
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Posted - 2012.06.18 20:57:00 -
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Ayeson wrote:Gnaw LF wrote:Nathan Jameson wrote:Gnaw LF wrote:Activity percentage of a corp/allaince has been added to the Stats list. Oh now THAT is useful. Thumbs up! I will be a sad panda if that stat is used to invade less than active corps/alliances. However I do hope it will promote more good fights as smaller w-space entities can look at activity percentage and deduce that a fight rather than a gank is forming. If it were used for evil what would make me :upset:, but I love data. If I may ask, what are you using to determine if a player is "Active"? I'm assuming its showing up within a kill for the past 30 days or something like that...
SUM of all unique characters that appeared on KM in the ongoing month, either as involved or victim. I know, its not the best criteria because a single kill or single loss does not mean a pilot is very active, but the entire idea of an "active" pilot or character is very ambiguous. |
Ayeson
Hard Knocks Inc.
39
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Posted - 2012.06.18 21:45:00 -
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Gnaw LF wrote: SUM of all unique characters that appeared on KM in the ongoing month, either as involved or victim. I know, its not the best criteria because a single kill or single loss does not mean a pilot is very active, but the entire idea of an "active" pilot or character is very ambiguous.
It's extremely ambiguous.
To dive into the DB questions...Are you using the actual current month or a date range like last 30 or 20 days? I guess that matters more dependent on how you're sequencing data...but the point im trying to bring up is are we going to get accurate stats on the 30th, only to have them reset activity on the first.
What about using last 20 or last days of logs so it changes daily, but gives us a more accurate snapshot? Ask me about Rengas-dar, HRDKX's Most recent, groundbreaking, game-changing, wormhole-collapsing research endeavour. |
Gnaw LF
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
75
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Posted - 2012.06.18 22:37:00 -
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Ayeson wrote:Gnaw LF wrote: SUM of all unique characters that appeared on KM in the ongoing month, either as involved or victim. I know, its not the best criteria because a single kill or single loss does not mean a pilot is very active, but the entire idea of an "active" pilot or character is very ambiguous.
It's extremely ambiguous. To dive into the DB questions...Are you using the actual current month or a date range like last 30 or 20 days? I guess that matters more dependent on how you're sequencing data...but the point im trying to bring up is are we going to get accurate stats on the 30th, only to have them reset activity on the first. What about using last 20 or last days of logs so it changes daily, but gives us a more accurate snapshot?
All stats are based on the month. So if today was the first day of the month, like July 1st, and Hard Knocks just bagged themselves a collapsing Orca kill with 5 different corp members listed as involved then your stats will shows 5 Active Pilots. Which is a completely accurate count, since for that month you had 5 people who left POS and shot something. Now the corp that owns the Orca would get 1 active poor bastard that got ganked. As more players / pilots get involved in day to day pew activities the more that stat is going to grow. But the stats are real time ( or as real as kills get posted to your KB and eve-kill) and are month based. |
Ayeson
Hard Knocks Inc.
39
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Posted - 2012.06.19 14:37:00 -
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Right, I was just thinking more of a constantly updating activity marker/indicator, but seeing as everything else is month based it wouldn't really sequence correctly Ask me about Rengas-dar, HRDKX's Most recent, groundbreaking, game-changing, wormhole-collapsing research endeavour. |
Gnaw LF
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
78
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Posted - 2012.06.19 21:47:00 -
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Added bars! BARS!
Also, my regular graphics / theme guy is MIA and I want to make the page look purty. If there are any volunteers get in touch with me through evemail and tell me your ideas for the stats page graphics / theme, lets try to keep the layout the same for now. |
Godfrey Silvarna
Stargates and Smuggler Barons
18
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Posted - 2012.06.19 21:53:00 -
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Not enough contrast between text and background ,(white on grey is bad, white on yellow is bad etc.) so it is harder to read than it could be. Solely for testing purposes, I have consumed some absinthe and moonshine, and sure enough the induced blurring effect and the poor contrast combined make the stats almost unreadable.
Just like science, graphic design is best done under influence. |
Gnaw LF
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
81
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Posted - 2012.06.19 22:47:00 -
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Godfrey Silvarna wrote:Not enough contrast between text and background ,(white on grey is bad, white on yellow is bad and red and green do not stand out either) so it is harder to read than it could be. Solely for testing purposes, I have consumed some absinthe and moonshine, and sure enough the induced blurring effect and the poor contrast combined make the stats almost unreadable.
Just like science, graphic design is best done under the influence of intoxicating substances.
I like your style but if I get intoxicated for each side project I do I'd either be a drunk or an addict. So I am looking fro brave souls who can do it for me. |
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Nathan Jameson
Talocan Dominion Talocan United
414
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Posted - 2012.06.20 07:17:00 -
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Godfrey Silvarna wrote:Just like science, graphic design is best done under the influence of intoxicating substances.
It's amazing how true this is.
Also works for art, but that goes without saying. |
Ayeson
Hard Knocks Inc.
39
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Posted - 2012.06.20 17:10:00 -
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Gnaw LF wrote:Godfrey Silvarna wrote:Not enough contrast between text and background ,(white on grey is bad, white on yellow is bad and red and green do not stand out either) so it is harder to read than it could be. Solely for testing purposes, I have consumed some absinthe and moonshine, and sure enough the induced blurring effect and the poor contrast combined make the stats almost unreadable.
Just like science, graphic design is best done under the influence of intoxicating substances. I like your style but if I get intoxicated for each side project I do I'd either be a drunk or an addict. So I am looking fro brave souls who can do it for me.
My life is a string of intoxicated side projects Ask me about Rengas-dar, HRDKX's Most recent, groundbreaking, game-changing, wormhole-collapsing research endeavour. |
Nathan Jameson
Talocan Dominion Talocan United
414
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Posted - 2012.06.22 14:15:00 -
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The graphics design is looking better each day. Keep up the good work!
On a side note, will the list ever be pruned of members not active in wormhole space? For example, I noticed that, according to your numbers, The Laughing Men have made 45 kills this month by a total of 2 pilots, 0 of them being in wormholes. |
Gnaw LF
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
92
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Posted - 2012.06.22 15:36:00 -
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Nathan Jameson wrote:The graphics design is looking better each day. Keep up the good work! On a side note, will the list ever be pruned of members not active in wormhole space? For example, I noticed that, according to your numbers, The Laughing Men have made 45 kills this month by a total of 2 pilots, 0 of them being in wormholes.
Thank You.
As for the list, right now its based on the Notable Enitites post by Chitsa. I've asked him to clarify the requirements for making the first page but so far received no reply. I would like to prune inactive corp/alliances and have more active if less notable (or simply new) entities show up on the list.
We should probably keep using this very thread to determine if there is a new / rising alliance that should have its stats tracked instead of one that has 2 members active. So if you are a new or fairly notable alliance/corp, you have decent activity and more than 5 bil isk killed in this month and the last, then post your name and your KB link (EDK or EvE-Kill only please). Then lest have the rest of the community vote and promote you. Feck, we might even add multiple entities to the list as long as you are active. |
Apolyon I
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
88
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Posted - 2012.06.22 15:50:00 -
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Gnaw LF wrote:Nathan Jameson wrote:The graphics design is looking better each day. Keep up the good work! On a side note, will the list ever be pruned of members not active in wormhole space? For example, I noticed that, according to your numbers, The Laughing Men have made 45 kills this month by a total of 2 pilots, 0 of them being in wormholes. Thank You. As for the list, right now its based on the Notable Enitites post by Chitsa. I've asked him to clarify the requirements for making the first page but so far received no reply. I would like to prune inactive corp/alliances and have more active if less notable (or simply new) entities show up on the list. We should probably keep using this very thread to determine if there is a new / rising alliance that should have its stats tracked instead of one that has 2 members active. So if you are a new or fairly notable alliance/corp, you have decent activity and more than 5 bil isk killed in this month and the last, then post your name and your KB link (EDK or EvE-Kill only please). Then lest have the rest of the community vote and promote you. Feck, we might even add multiple entities to the list as long as you are active. dude, where are we on the board?? |
Ayeson
Hard Knocks Inc.
41
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Posted - 2012.06.22 16:12:00 -
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Apolyon I wrote:dude, where are we on the board??
Aquila doesn't actually exist apo. Ask me about Rengas-dar, HRDKX's Most recent, groundbreaking, game-changing, wormhole-collapsing research endeavour. |
Gnaw LF
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
92
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Posted - 2012.06.22 16:19:00 -
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Apolyon I wrote: dude, where are we on the board??
Relax, I was just screwing around with the SQL query. |
Chitsa Jason
High Intellion Exhale.
125
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Posted - 2012.06.23 02:17:00 -
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Gnaw LF wrote:Nathan Jameson wrote:The graphics design is looking better each day. Keep up the good work! On a side note, will the list ever be pruned of members not active in wormhole space? For example, I noticed that, according to your numbers, The Laughing Men have made 45 kills this month by a total of 2 pilots, 0 of them being in wormholes. Thank You. As for the list, right now its based on the Notable Enitites post by Chitsa. I've asked him to clarify the requirements for making the first page but so far received no reply. I would like to prune inactive corp/alliances and have more active if less notable (or simply new) entities show up on the list. We should probably keep using this very thread to determine if there is a new / rising alliance that should have its stats tracked instead of one that has 2 members active. So if you are a new or fairly notable alliance/corp, you have decent activity and more than 5 bil isk killed in this month and the last, then post your name and your KB link (EDK or EvE-Kill only please). Then lest have the rest of the community vote and promote you. Feck, we might even add multiple entities to the list as long as you are active.
At the requirements are 5bil of damage and at least 40 members. Obviously it needs to change as some corporations or alliances on the list are inactive or completely PVE based. I have been checking out the stats and will make adjustments to the list. I do not want to rush it as it would mean massive emo rage if i make a mistake. |
Spujax
Team Pizza
8
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Posted - 2012.06.23 06:07:00 -
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Chitsa Jason wrote:Gnaw LF wrote:Nathan Jameson wrote:The graphics design is looking better each day. Keep up the good work! On a side note, will the list ever be pruned of members not active in wormhole space? For example, I noticed that, according to your numbers, The Laughing Men have made 45 kills this month by a total of 2 pilots, 0 of them being in wormholes. Thank You. As for the list, right now its based on the Notable Enitites post by Chitsa. I've asked him to clarify the requirements for making the first page but so far received no reply. I would like to prune inactive corp/alliances and have more active if less notable (or simply new) entities show up on the list. We should probably keep using this very thread to determine if there is a new / rising alliance that should have its stats tracked instead of one that has 2 members active. So if you are a new or fairly notable alliance/corp, you have decent activity and more than 5 bil isk killed in this month and the last, then post your name and your KB link (EDK or EvE-Kill only please). Then lest have the rest of the community vote and promote you. Feck, we might even add multiple entities to the list as long as you are active. At the requirements are 5bil of damage and at least 40 members. Obviously it needs to change as some corporations or alliances on the list are inactive or completely PVE based. I have been checking out the stats and will make adjustments to the list. I do not want to rush it as it would mean massive emo rage if i make a mistake.
Team Pizza needs to get added. We are currently the most active corp according to that list and we meet all the other requirements you mentioned.
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Myz Toyou
Bite Me inc Exhale.
121
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Posted - 2012.06.23 07:48:00 -
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Spujax wrote:
Team Pizza needs to get added. We are currently the most active corp according to that list and we meet all the other requirements you mentioned.
I dont think Chitsa will release a seperate one now as Gnaw LF made that awsum KB.
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Spujax
Team Pizza
8
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Posted - 2012.06.23 08:13:00 -
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We are on that one too. |
Chitsa Jason
High Intellion Exhale.
125
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Posted - 2012.06.23 09:10:00 -
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Hod on guys, i will make changes during few days. |
Axloth Okiah
Big Johnson's Ascendance.
2
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Posted - 2012.06.23 20:12:00 -
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1) whkills stats are awesome, great job! 2) stats for structures seem kinda off (% are too high)... unless I misunderstood what they're supposed to mean 3) will past months be updated too? I don't believe Verge of Collapse killed only 3.72 bil worth of ships during april ;) |
Gnaw LF
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
93
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Posted - 2012.06.23 22:49:00 -
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Axloth Okiah wrote:1) whkills stats are awesome, great job! 2) stats for structures seem kinda off (% are too high)... unless I misunderstood what they're supposed to mean 3) will past months be updated too? I don't believe Verge of Collapse killed only 3.72 bil worth of ships during april ;)
The percentage is the amount of structures killed as percentile of Total kills, not W-space kills. Also structures are counted everywhere, w-space and k-space. We will not be updating kills prior to May, the site was launched in May to generate stats from that time forward and we would rather add new features then spend time working out all the Feed Syncs from the past. |
Axloth Okiah
Big Johnson's Ascendance.
2
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Posted - 2012.06.24 07:40:00 -
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Oh I see, its percentile of number of kills. I kept looking at ISK value, my bad. |
Chitsa Jason
High Intellion Exhale.
125
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Posted - 2012.06.26 05:52:00 -
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Spujax wrote:We are on that one too.
Please send me info about your corp to me an ill add you. |
Gnaw LF
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
100
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Posted - 2012.06.26 17:35:00 -
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New stat page to play around with:
http://whkills.info/stats/ships.php
Some disclaimers:
-All ships displayed are killed or used in w-space only. -Red is for ships killed, green is for instances where ship was involved (used to kill). -Page is incomplete, lots of ships are yet to be added -Page is not optimized, tons of queries that will take a LOOOOOONG time to load -I am still playing with the page layout and color themes
As always if you see any errors or lack of accuracy please point it out. Thank You. |
Ayeson
Hard Knocks Inc.
41
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Posted - 2012.06.26 19:52:00 -
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Gnaw LF wrote:New stat page to play around with: http://whkills.info/stats/ships.phpSome disclaimers: -All ships displayed are killed or used in w-space only. -Red is for ships killed, green is for instances where ship was involved (used to kill). -Page is incomplete, lots of ships are yet to be added -Page is not optimized, tons of queries that will take a LOOOOOONG time to load -I am still playing with the page layout and color themes As always if you see any errors or lack of accuracy please point it out. Thank You.
Hot. Ask me about Rengas-dar, HRDKX's Most recent, groundbreaking, game-changing, wormhole-collapsing research endeavour. |
Gnaw LF
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
102
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Posted - 2012.06.29 17:31:00 -
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Need people pointing out notable corps and alliances, if the following entities are to be dropped from the list:
Lone Star Partners: 15 active pilots, 4.17Bil kills. Quebec United Legions: 18 active pilots, 3.3Bil kills The Laughing Men: 3 actives, 3Bil kills. |
Chitsa Jason
High Intellion Exhale.
125
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Posted - 2012.06.29 17:36:00 -
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Gnaw LF wrote:Need people pointing out notable corps and alliances, if the following entities are to be dropped from the list:
Lone Star Partners: 15 active pilots, 4.17Bil kills. Quebec United Legions: 18 active pilots, 3.3Bil kills The Laughing Men: 3 actives, 3Bil kills.
Removed them. |
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