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Chryzopraz	Posted - 2009.03.11 08:55:00 - [1] Edited by: Chryzopraz on 11/03/2009 09:00:50 Hi all! I am lost in space. Literally! It all started innocent. A corpmate scanned a wormhole. We entered it with 4 or 5 ships. It was so empty inside! At least it seemed so. After a while our scanner guy found a group of ships. We found another group fighting Sleepers. We helped them a bit and warped out. Then we found a small mining site. Nothing special, a few asteroids with veldspar, scordite, pyroxeres and plagioclase. Some of our corpmates left the system to repair their ships. Only I and our scanner guy left to try to find other wormholes or whatever might be there hidden from us. After a while we decided to go back. And then things started to get ugly. The wormhole connecting us to the known universe disappeared! We stumbled upon a few ships from the other party hanging in space. They didn't have a scanner with them. So we had only one guy with scanner probes to find any exit. And then we did a terrible mistake. We parted, I made a fleet with people in the second group while our scanner was searching for another wormhole. And then the Sleepers found him and destroyed before we could help him. Our only hope for return! Someone was desperate enough to commit a suicide to get back to known space. But there are still 3 or 4 of us hanging in the unknown space with the diminishing hope of finding some help. And this is the situation now. We are stuck in the system J141451. So if anyone reading this happen to enter that system, please let me know by ingame mail if you could help us get out and show the exit wormhole. I am willing to pay for that. In ISK or some stuff got from dead Sleepers. Or even with my ship (just a Ferox). Regards all Chryzopraz PS. Lesson learned: never ever leave your guy with probes alone in unknown space. The Sleepers can find him and attack anywhere, anytime, leaving you without the way out to the known space. Edit: Corrected system name
Serpents smile	Posted - 2009.03.11 09:02:00 - [2] I'm sure someone at CCP is rolling over the floor from laughter. Good luck finding your way out mate.
Gnarouh Queens of the Stone Age	Posted - 2009.03.11 09:05:00 - [3] I love this ! - this is what the game should be like, the game attacking you - and ****ing you over ! :) YAY ! wish iwas stuck there with you.
Mallikanth	Posted - 2009.03.11 09:06:00 - [4] I think CCP should start a new Forum Channel for people stuck in w-space asking for help. It will become quite popular In the meantime, Good Luck my friend.
Seetesh Caldari Warped Mining Strip Mining Club	Posted - 2009.03.11 09:06:00 - [5] Im sorry but this is really funny, why is it that so many people arent thinking straight when it comes to entering wormholes and rely soloy on one scanner guy.
Tuttomenui II Gallente BUDAPIG LTD	Posted - 2009.03.11 09:07:00 - [6] Edited by: Tuttomenui II on 11/03/2009 09:11:37 I know I am ROFL. Quick question... How much would you say your clone is worth? what kind of implants and what grade clone? I think a lot of people might go to fitting a probe launcher in a utility high on theyre fighting ships. hehehe. Edit* I took an orca into a wh on SISI after getting gang invite froma group of cap pilots and when I warped to them they were fighting 8 BS sleepers and like 12 Frig sleepers. I tried to tractor a player wreck and the sleepers did not like that at all, they all switched to me and they killed me like i was in a damn cruiser. And I had a probe launcher on the orca, a helios in bay with probe launcher, and some spare probe laucnhers in cargo and some spare T1 frigs in bay. And 200mil worth of ammo and supplies at SISI prices of 100isk in my cargo. hehehe.
destinationunreachable	Posted - 2009.03.11 09:07:00 - [7] sounds all great, works as intended! THANK YOU CCP!!!
Chryzopraz	Posted - 2009.03.11 09:12:00 - [8] I must admit I have a good laught too. The game isn't boring anymore Anyway I have all +3 implants, so I would say my clone is worth around 20 mil isk. Regards Chryzopraz
Noiashui Amarr Master Miners Electric Monkey Overlords	Posted - 2009.03.11 09:13:00 - [9] lol xD Had a few corpmates last night with the same problem, they went ahead through without the guy with the probes (and they're all still arguing whose fault it is) and when he returned to the wormhole it had closed, leaving them in closed off space without any chance of probing a new way out ^_^
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2009.03.11 09:13:00 - [10] wonderful, this is an awesome expansion :P If I find you I'll help lol
Reven Cordelle Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.03.11 09:14:00 - [11] The plus side is, now - Probe Launchers are SO damned easy to sneak into a fitting... you should probably put one on the ship you take just incase. Probes take up little space too, and the launcher holds a LOT of probes. Scanning is easier too and not really based on time - so load up your Probe Launchers! Lesson learnt for you. Hoho.
Xi Xing Gallente Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.11 09:22:00 - [12] You know what... this sounds like an idea for a business... continually fly a probe ship through WH space systems, find people who are stuck, and charging them a chunk of cash to guide them back to known space. Xi Xing's Interstellar Sherpa Services. Genius.
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2009.03.11 09:29:00 - [13] Last night I had to find a way out for a small miltia fleet that was in the same W-space system as me when the wormhole stopped accepting larger ships. There were a couple of other probers at it too, I get the impression that some W-space systems only have one wormhole, obviously going to ordinary space, and you have to wait for it to collapse to get out if it is too decayed for your ship size. If you are stuck and want to get out, I'd recommend pinging in local too, since no-one passing by will know you are there otherwise. - DesuSigs
Chryzopraz	Posted - 2009.03.11 09:32:00 - [14] I do yell at local when I'm online. But had no luck yet... Regards Chryzopraz
Fakespace	Posted - 2009.03.11 09:34:00 - [15] Originally by: Chryzopraz Edited by: Chryzopraz on 11/03/2009 09:00:50 ... So if anyone reading this happen to enter that system, please let me know by ingame mail if you could help us get out and show the exit wormhole. I am willing to pay for that. In ISK or some stuff got from dead Sleepers. Or even with my ship (just a Ferox). ... New business concept: wormhole rescue service
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2009.03.11 09:46:00 - [16] Originally by: Chryzopraz I do yell at local when I'm online. But had no luck yet... In fairness, if it was me, I'd probably just laugh and move on. Or, gang you, promise a nice way out, and drop you into the biggest bunch of sleepers I could find. No, not really, I'd feel bad for doing that because I'm a Hello Kitty player at heart. But I bet others would. - DesuSigs
Daelorn Perkone	Posted - 2009.03.11 09:53:00 - [17] Hrm maybe we should create an ingame channel for wormhole space? Seems to be a few people in the channel "Wormholes"
Tierie Tears of Redemption	Posted - 2009.03.11 10:19:00 - [18] I jumped through into k-space yesterday and the wormhole collapsed behind me. Left five people in w-space >< --- Table, you have four legs. Four legs like a dog. But you are not a dog! Cunning table.
Letava Gallente Nightsky Industries	Posted - 2009.03.11 10:35:00 - [19] It's so tempting to plate up a BS and jump back and forth through a wormhole until it collapses on the people inside. I'm still stuck on how to make sure I'm on the right side when it does, though.
Ralle030583 Eve Service Corp	Posted - 2009.03.11 10:37:00 - [20] Originally by: Fakespace Originally by: Chryzopraz Edited by: Chryzopraz on 11/03/2009 09:00:50 ... So if anyone reading this happen to enter that system, please let me know by ingame mail if you could help us get out and show the exit wormhole. I am willing to pay for that. In ISK or some stuff got from dead Sleepers. Or even with my ship (just a Ferox). ... New business concept: wormhole rescue service me likes the idea
H Lecter Gallente The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2009.03.11 10:53:00 - [21] Working as intended! Thanks CCP for making space vast and dangerous again! Originally by: Rells First of all, I wouldn't give you the sweat off my balls.
Wilja Anrick Caldari XIII Interstellar Legion	Posted - 2009.03.11 10:59:00 - [22] Am I following, All the right leads? Or am I about to get lost in space? When my time comes Can't fight my destiny, Will you take this ride with me? -Lost In Space, The Misfits
Zey Nadar Gallente Stormwatch Galactic BlackWater.	Posted - 2009.03.11 11:02:00 - [23] Edited by: Zey Nadar on 11/03/2009 11:07:01 Originally by: Tuttomenui II I think a lot of people might go to fitting a probe launcher in a utility high on theyre fighting ships. hehehe. Thats how its meant to be, core probe launcher fits on basically any ship, its like a salvager. And core probes take only 0.1 m3 room each and are reusable. Seriously, put that launcher in there if you got the skills. I had a funny experience too last night... I found a wormhole in my covops, formed an alliance fleet, then I luckily had the smarts to enter first in my prober ship. A fellow drake followed..and then the wormhole collapsed. Drakepilot didnt have a scanner... he was all "save me!" hehe. Took me like half hour to probe the exit wormhole which we used to get the rest of fleet in there, this time with more people fitting probe launchers, hehe. Had fun clearing few sites in there. Overall I really really like the wormhole idea and this expansion. It takes time getting used to the new probing system and I hate the pos shield graphics but overall its a great expansion.
Durzel The Xenodus Initiative.	Posted - 2009.03.11 11:10:00 - [24] As a carebear I think this is brilliant. You could go in a wormhole and meet another group already fighting Sleepers, and as it's 0.0 everyone is fair game. Or you could go in there and fight some Sleepers yourself, and pirates come in and gatecrash. Or, you could go in there and be unable to get back out - having to rely on the good-naturedness of others to save you. WH seems close to what low-sec should've been - dangerous space but with rewards to make it worth going there. It sounds scary, but I'm very interested in trying it.
Niccolado Starwalker Shadow Templars	Posted - 2009.03.11 11:40:00 - [25] Strange thing really... I have always had wet dreams about playing a game where you could get completely lost in the huge huge universe. Just like Star trek voyager. Or maybe Battlestar Galactica? So instead of starting from a starting point mapping the world outwards, you instead have to stat maping from the unknown, in search for home! It might seems strange, but there is certain excitement in getting lost! So your next mission will not be to kill the boss, or mining or anything. It will be to find home! hey! There is a certain beauty in it really! And think how you will feel when you at last find home!? Yep.. The new wormhole systems seems to be my thing really! Originally by: Dianabolic Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL
KhaniKirai	Posted - 2009.03.11 11:48:00 - [26] getting lost is something else then getting stuck :D
Nierna	Posted - 2009.03.11 11:55:00 - [27] advertise in local youl pay 20 misk for a WH location. eventho you wont see people in local they are most definatly there.
Randysim	Posted - 2009.03.11 12:02:00 - [28] Im sure Captain Janeway would feel right at home in W-space -)
KillSol	Posted - 2009.03.11 12:05:00 - [29] Originally by: Chryzopraz Edited by: Chryzopraz on 11/03/2009 09:00:50 Hi all! I am lost in space. Literally! It all started innocent. A corpmate scanned a wormhole. We entered it with 4 or 5 ships. It was so empty inside! At least it seemed so. After a while our scanner guy found a group of ships. We found another group fighting Sleepers. We helped them a bit and warped out. Then we found a small mining site. Nothing special, a few asteroids with veldspar, scordite, pyroxeres and plagioclase. Some of our corpmates left the system to repair their ships. Only I and our scanner guy left to try to find other wormholes or whatever might be there hidden from us. After a while we decided to go back. And then things started to get ugly. The wormhole connecting us to the known universe disappeared! We stumbled upon a few ships from the other party hanging in space. They didn't have a scanner with them. So we had only one guy with scanner probes to find any exit. And then we did a terrible mistake. We parted, I made a fleet with people in the second group while our scanner was searching for another wormhole. And then the Sleepers found him and destroyed before we could help him. Our only hope for return! Someone was desperate enough to commit a suicide to get back to known space. But there are still 3 or 4 of us hanging in the unknown space with the diminishing hope of finding some help. And this is the situation now. We are stuck in the system J141451. So if anyone reading this happen to enter that system, please let me know by ingame mail if you could help us get out and show the exit wormhole. I am willing to pay for that. In ISK or some stuff got from dead Sleepers. Or even with my ship (just a Ferox). Regards all Chryzopraz PS. Lesson learned: never ever leave your guy with probes alone in unknown space. The Sleepers can find him and attack anywhere, anytime, leaving you without the way out to the known space. Edit: Corrected system name The new message in a bottle!
Bimjo Caldari SKULLDOGS	Posted - 2009.03.11 12:08:00 - [30] Originally by: Letava It's so tempting to plate up a BS and jump back and forth through a wormhole until it collapses on the people inside. I'm still stuck on how to make sure I'm on the right side when it does, though. Last I heard you get hit with a 4 min timer after your 3rd jump ? ? ? ====================

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2009.03.11 12:09:00 - [31] I'm in J141452 with a scanner, so if you slowboat towards coordinates X23-Y89-Z82 you might reach me in 3-4 years Secure 3rd party service

Bimjo Caldari SKULLDOGS	Posted - 2009.03.11 12:10:00 - [32] Originally by: Chryzopraz I do yell at local when I'm online. But had no luck yet... Regards Chryzopraz Thanks for this funny thread, LOLing at work Last night a RL friend of mine said their 8 man gang's prober found a WH,so they all lined up,and FC said "Jump" , they all initiated at the same time, 4 got through to other side in to the unknown,the other 4 and prober were still in empire lol ====================
TeRata	Posted - 2009.03.11 12:16:00 - [33] I didn't think the local channel worked in W-Space. Just a suggestion - once you go into a w-space system create if you need to, a channel with the system name. Just so people in the same system can join the channel
chromez0r Gallente Dead 2 Rights	Posted - 2009.03.11 12:19:00 - [34] Originally by: TeRata I didn't think the local channel worked in W-Space. Just a suggestion - once you go into a w-space system create if you need to, a channel with the system name. Just so people in the same system can join the channel or just talk in local and those who want to reply will :)
TeRata	Posted - 2009.03.11 12:34:00 - [35] ah ok, I thought it was disabled completly
Discrodia Gallente Independent Miners Guild	Posted - 2009.03.11 12:36:00 - [36] This is why this expansion rocks! It's like you are exploring a new place with no way to be sure you'll get out! My tip: Get some buddies to get another recon party to look for wormholes, and pray until your hands bleed. ______________________________________________ I may be a highsec carebear.... but feel free to ask for a T1 frigate duel any day.
Black Monsoon Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2009.03.11 12:37:00 - [37] "I'll send an SOS to the world, I'll send an SOS to the world, I hope that someone gets my.. I hope that someone gets my.. message in a bottle"
Rimhawk Caldari Rage of Inferno Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2009.03.11 12:38:00 - [38] First rule of W-space: Probers are the FIRST in and the LAST out of the wormhole. ;) PS: Our wormhole collapsed on us so we had to look for a new one and ended up in the middle of Detorid. 75 jumps home. Great fun though, best fun I've had in EVE for over 2 years. ;)
Greening	Posted - 2009.03.11 13:00:00 - [39] Im so sorry to hear this mate! hope u find way out.. my fleet is also stuck... stupid CCP rule.. some cruel joke just for their satisfaction.. but it wont be funny for them when they get petitioned 10000000 times and when people start to quit EVE due to frustration
Fryrr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.11 13:03:00 - [40] this is the best thread on eve-o right now
Ana Vyr DB - LJ Industries	Posted - 2009.03.11 13:08:00 - [41] This is completely awesome! This is the spaceship game I envisioned when I signed up. Real exploration with risks that exceed gatecamps and player controlled empires.
Sawirek Caldari BLACK BARONS	Posted - 2009.03.11 13:11:00 - [42] Originally by: Greening Im so sorry to hear this mate! hope u find way out.. my fleet is also stuck... stupid CCP rule.. some cruel joke just for their satisfaction.. but it wont be funny for them when they get petitioned 10000000 times and when people start to quit EVE due to frustration You just don't get it, do you ? It's dangerous, it was not build for you to pwn everything in there easily, got home a be rich. If you got stuck, it's your fault, everybody can fit a core probe launcher, ofcourse you can end up on the other side of the universe, but that feeling of randomness simply ROCKS. Got 5 neutrals in a local asking "Can you please tell us, WHERE THE ARE WE ?". Priceless.
Chryzopraz	Posted - 2009.03.11 13:30:00 - [43] Originally by: Greening Im so sorry to hear this mate! hope u find way out.. my fleet is also stuck... stupid CCP rule.. some cruel joke just for their satisfaction.. but it wont be funny for them when they get petitioned 10000000 times and when people start to quit EVE due to frustration I think you misunderstood. Why petition CCP? This is fun. This is exciting. I have never had such a great time playing Eve before. Just wanted to tell you my story and maybe warn against doing the same mistake. Regards Chryzopraz
Andrew IFA Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.03.11 13:55:00 - [44] So why didnt you gank the grooup you've found fighting the sleepers?
djenghis jan Amarr Live Once Die Twice	Posted - 2009.03.11 14:13:00 - [45] I love this! Best expansion so far... dj
Chryzopraz	Posted - 2009.03.11 14:28:00 - [46] Originally by: Andrew IFA So why didnt you gank the grooup you've found fighting the sleepers? Why should we do that? Our corps meet often in high sec, we occupy the same space. Why should we make enemies instead of friends? Regards Chryzopraz
Zurrar Gallente Universal Exports FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2009.03.11 14:35:00 - [47] I feel an eve movie coming on :D :D :D [yellow]Sig removed, only one graphic per sig please. If you would like further details please [url="http://support.eve-onl
Andrew IFA Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.03.11 14:40:00 - [48] yeah ok if you know eachother locally from highsec then you've got my absolution. However you guys from highsec are effectively entering 0.0. But not just that - any alien corp ship mass is automatically a threat to you. you can kill them, can profit from killing them and should kill them for your own safety. In other words them moving thru wormhole is a threat to you. Ok, just wait and you will see what happens 4 weeks down the line in wspace. "No country for carebear man."
Taguchi Hiroko 0utbreak KrautbreaK	Posted - 2009.03.11 15:38:00 - [49] lol, classic! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Bloodmoss Caldari red dwarf industries	Posted - 2009.03.11 16:46:00 - [50] Originally by: Fakespace Originally by: Chryzopraz Edited by: Chryzopraz on 11/03/2009 09:00:50 ... So if anyone reading this happen to enter that system, please let me know by ingame mail if you could help us get out and show the exit wormhole. I am willing to pay for that. In ISK or some stuff got from dead Sleepers. Or even with my ship (just a Ferox). ... New business concept: wormhole rescue service lol after seening this i have made up a eve channel called "Wormhole Rescue Service" for any one stuck in WH and for any one to chat to ppl stuck and try and help them out :P so pass the channel around ppl and lets see if we can help them out heheheh
Devon Vorberg Gallente 501st Providence Light Defense Squadron	Posted - 2009.03.11 17:03:00 - [51] This stuff is better than EVE Chronicles. I forsee a LOT of fanfic coming out about expeditions and fleets being lost in W-space.
Morlar	Posted - 2009.03.11 17:10:00 - [52] Originally by: Bloodmoss Originally by: Fakespace Originally by: Chryzopraz Edited by: Chryzopraz on 11/03/2009 09:00:50 ... So if anyone reading this happen to enter that system, please let me know by ingame mail if you could help us get out and show the exit wormhole. I am willing to pay for that. In ISK or some stuff got from dead Sleepers. Or even with my ship (just a Ferox). ... New business concept: wormhole rescue service lol after seening this i have made up a eve channel called "Wormhole Rescue Service" for any one stuck in WH and for any one to chat to ppl stuck and try and help them out :P so pass the channel around ppl and lets see if we can help them out heheheh It's like AAA for Internet Spaceships. Perhaps I shall join.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.03.11 17:18:00 - [53] I wonder if people have figured out there is a 15cpu probe launcher that can fit on any ship so noone has to get stuck. Yay! Got meh sig back! ♥ Weatherman
Ginako	Posted - 2009.03.11 17:31:00 - [54] Lost In Space!? -------------- Flying Minmatar is like strapping yourself to an office chair and firing Uzi's as you roll down a flight of stairs!
Soporo Caldari	Posted - 2009.03.11 17:37:00 - [55] Quote: First rule of W-space: Probers are the FIRST in and the LAST out of the wormhole. ;) Eh, I'd say that's rule number 2. Rule number one would be: EVERY SHIP FIT A CORE PROBE LAUNCHER! IT'S CHEAP AND HAS MINIMAL FITTING REQUIREMENTS SO DROP THAT FREEKIN SMARTY OR NEUT OR SALVAGER! OTHERWISE...
Caelum Mortuos Gallente Zero G Research and Development	Posted - 2009.03.11 17:52:00 - [56] Captain's Log - 11/3/2025 Still trapped in this god-damn wormhole, broadcasting for help. Food supplies running out..... No...wait! Ship on the scanner! Finally after 16 years we shall be free! Thank the empress! geddon appears, pops your ship and warps off ..... well this sucks
Thernys Caldari Dark Force Recon	Posted - 2009.03.11 18:02:00 - [57] Originally by: Crumplecorn If you are stuck and want to get out, I'd recommend pinging in local too, since no-one passing by will know you are there otherwise. Directional scanner? I'm sure the fuzzy and kind people working the directional scanner will be more than happy to help you out of W-space, one way or another...
Kyra Felann Gallente Noctis Fleet Technologies	Posted - 2009.03.11 18:50:00 - [58] This is why last night we had two people with probe-launchers--just in case. I think it's awesome that people are able to get stuck in w-space.
Kyra Felann Gallente Noctis Fleet Technologies	Posted - 2009.03.11 18:56:00 - [59] Originally by: Greening Im so sorry to hear this mate! hope u find way out.. my fleet is also stuck... stupid CCP rule.. some cruel joke just for their satisfaction.. but it wont be funny for them when they get petitioned 10000000 times and when people start to quit EVE due to frustration Just quit now and go back to WoW. Seriously, this game is about taking risks. You knew you could get stuck going in and you did it anyway. I sincerely hope CCP ignores any petitions for getting stuck in w-space.
KillSol	Posted - 2009.03.11 19:08:00 - [60] Pilot #1 "Lets Jump" 3 Ships Jump Pilot #3 "Wow, the worm hole just closed" Pilot #1 "No, problem, Pilot #2 has a ton of probes" Pilot #2 "Probes?"
Ed Kraka Maximum Yarrage	Posted - 2009.03.12 10:27:00 - [61] CCP: I just wanted to thank CCP for actually doing something right within eve and making w-space. Maximum Yarrage have racked up so many kills i cba to count them, so ty for delivering these noobs and ballsy nighthawk pilots right into our bubbles :) NOTE: i take this all back if you ever nerf Amarr, you will then suck more a very sucky thing.
KillSol	Posted - 2009.03.12 14:49:00 - [62] So is this guy still lost?
Dim Corby Valheru Empire Science and Production Agency	Posted - 2009.03.23 12:37:00 - [63] Originally by: Letava It's so tempting to plate up a BS and jump back and forth through a wormhole until it collapses on the people inside. I'm still stuck on how to make sure I'm on the right side when it does, though. Did that with a freighter last nite. :) Obelisk is 940 million kg mass and other then me a Hulk went trough it twice and a covops. Total 2 million kg mass and then it collapsed. The info message on my side was still oke, but later I heard that after my first jump it started to pulse real fast and shrink it's size. If I had knew that I would not have jumped back Yeah I know, freighter but it went from hi-sec to 1 jump from Jita so I though what the heck, it saves 22 jumps (had a Scorpion + Rokh + a +4 set of implants totaling 2 billion :D) Keep them coming; more lost-in-wh-space stories!

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