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Sentinel Smith
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.27 21:17:00 -
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GM Homonoia wrote:I shall make this real simple: Do not mess with rookies in rookie systems in any way.
This was the statement in my other thread about the "Rules of Engagement" in Rookie systems.
So this begs the question, what about Scammers ?
We have this person in Clellinon, '3rd Amarr Manufacturer' who posts scam contracts on local. I've reported him twice, but as is standard, the GM's just say they will look into it, but don't tell you if action will be taken or not, and just after the last petition was closed, he posted it again...
Now I'm dead against it.. a new player has no idea about scam contracts, margin trading, etc.. They got an account, maybe a PLEX to get some isk, and there is someone who is easily screwing them with a scam contract, as they would be if they baited and destroyed them.
Is this type of action permitted ? Is it something that is being/should be reviewed ? Or is it supported by CCP/GM's as just part of the game, like it is in all other systems ? |
Geneosity
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2012.04.28 21:08:00 -
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i think as in real life this is normal. in real life there are no people telling you how to use your own money or? |
Sentinel Smith
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
74
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Posted - 2012.04.28 21:13:00 -
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Geneosity wrote:i think as in real life this is normal. in real life there are no people telling you how to use your own money or?
In real life, if you leave the town your school was in, you don't get to start shooting people :p
This is a game after all, with rules.. some just haven't been fully defined, or are still evolving..
And if I were to bait a newbie, and destroy his Navitas, or Atron.. I cost him 400k, assuming a good fit.. If I scam him for 500mil.. well I cost him 500mill.. And chances are, either way, they are gonna have the same negative impression of the game.. then either stick with it, or leave.. |
Ai Shun
785
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Posted - 2012.04.28 21:21:00 -
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Sentinel Smith wrote:We have this person in Clellinon, '3rd Amarr Manufacturer' who posts scam contracts on local. I've reported him twice, but as is standard, the GM's just say they will look into it, but don't tell you if action will be taken or not, and just after the last petition was closed, he posted it again...
Why didn't you suicide gank him?
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Sentinel Smith
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
74
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Posted - 2012.04.28 21:30:00 -
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He doesn't undock for as long as I've seen him. |
Sid Hudgens
43
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Posted - 2012.04.28 21:40:00 -
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Ah ... imagine suicide ganking inside stations.
If incarna had only brought the ability to suicide gank scammers inside stations (as seen in the future vision trailer) nobody would have shot any monuments as we'd have been too busy shooting scammers and spammers in jita.
"....as if 10,058 Goon voices cried out and were suddenly silenced."
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Sentinel Smith
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
76
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Posted - 2012.04.29 20:02:00 -
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I'd like to see a response from CCP About this.. as it continues. |
Katarina Reid
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
170
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Posted - 2012.04.29 20:34:00 -
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Sentinel Smith wrote:Geneosity wrote:i think as in real life this is normal. in real life there are no people telling you how to use your own money or? In real life, if you leave the town your school was in, you don't get to start shooting people :p This is a game after all, with rules.. some just haven't been fully defined, or are still evolving.. And if I were to bait a newbie, and destroy his Navitas, or Atron.. I cost him 400k, assuming a good fit.. If I scam him for 500mil.. well I cost him 500mill.. And chances are, either way, they are gonna have the same negative impression of the game.. then either stick with it, or leave..
where did he get this 500mil if hes a new player? Its only new players not everyone hiding in a rookie system. |
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
114
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Posted - 2012.04.29 21:25:00 -
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Sentinel Smith wrote:GM Homonoia wrote:I shall make this real simple: Do not mess with rookies in rookie systems in any way. This was the statement in my other thread about the "Rules of Engagement" in Rookie systems. So this begs the question, what about Scammers ? We have this person in Clellinon, '3rd Amarr Manufacturer' who posts scam contracts on local. I've reported him twice, but as is standard, the GM's just say they will look into it, but don't tell you if action will be taken or not, and just after the last petition was closed, he posted it again... Now I'm dead against it.. a new player has no idea about scam contracts, margin trading, etc.. They got an account, maybe a PLEX to get some isk, and there is someone who is easily screwing them as much or more with a scam contract, as they would be if they baited and destroyed them. Is this type of action permitted ? Is it something that is being/should be reviewed ? Or is it supported by CCP/GM's as just part of the game, like it is in all other systems ?
Is english a second language to you?
"in any way"
How hard is that to understand? 
Looking to stamp out apiphobia in my lifetime..... |
TriadSte
3rd Division
75
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Posted - 2012.04.29 21:40:00 -
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Going after noobs is not right at all on any level. It simply shows what kind of scumbag you are in real life to want to do that to someone.
CCP have to knock this on the head right away because alot of people take the 14 day trial, join game, get scammed and/or ship blown up etc they then think "this games crap" and thats a possible sub CCP losses because of idiotic low lifers.
IMHO if a char is less than 4 weeks old and is scammed any amount of isk is refunded to the player and the same amount taken from the scammer.
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Evil Brock Nelson
T2 Technologies Unlimited
10
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Posted - 2012.04.29 21:41:00 -
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What the **** is there to scam from noobs anyways? |
TriadSte
3rd Division
75
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Posted - 2012.04.29 21:46:00 -
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There is pretty easy ways of making enough for a plex - ish within the first 14 days these days so I'm told... |
Sha Kharn
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
1
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Posted - 2012.04.29 21:49:00 -
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Important eve life lessons at the start will aid them in the future.
Its good for them I say. |
TriadSte
3rd Division
75
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Posted - 2012.04.29 21:51:00 -
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Sha Kharn wrote:Important eve life lessons at the start will aid them in the future.
Its good for them I say.
Your wrong.
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Sha Kharn
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
1
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Posted - 2012.04.29 21:59:00 -
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Better they learn after a few weeks of hard work and so much more to loose ? |
THE L0CK
Denying You Access
293
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Posted - 2012.04.29 22:02:00 -
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Yes we understand that you like tormenting noobs. No need to tell us your exploits in a narrative form each week.
Do you smell what the Lock's cooking? |
Spy 21
Lonetrek Exploration and Salvage
57
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Posted - 2012.04.29 22:05:00 -
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Can't decide which I prefer... having noobs learn about scammers early the hard way, or having them cruise along for 6 months being protected from them then getting taken for 1.5 billion cause they never learned the lesson.
Maybe CCP should add a scamming example mission to the business career mission story line. Give the pilot a million isk and through the course of the mission scam him right out of it...
S
"The next time airport security tells you to put your hands over your head and hold that vulnerable position for seven seconds, ask yourself: Is this the posture of a free man?" |
Sha Kharn
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
2
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Posted - 2012.04.29 22:09:00 -
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Spy 21 wrote:Maybe CCP should add a scamming example mission to the business career mission story line. Give the pilot a million isk and through the course of the mission scam him right out of it...
S
Cool idea.
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Sentinel Smith
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
76
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Posted - 2012.04.29 22:14:00 -
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Beekeeper Bob wrote:Is english a second language to you? " in any way" How hard is that to understand?
Probably comes from the fact that I've reported him at least twice, as have others, and yet he's still there..
And where do noobs get 500mil ? PLEX mostly, some get it as gifts from friends that have played.. You'd be amazed how many noobs you see in Navy BS's a week into the game..
Oh and yes.. I love tormenting the noobs.. it's why when he posts it on Local I point out it's a scam, and am trying to get CCP to step up the the plate and come down on these people.. Yep.. I'm pure evil.. |
Lictor Yeva
WoonGaffe
8
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Posted - 2012.04.29 22:16:00 -
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Scamming in the rookie systems is pretty low, even for the usual suspects in EVE, and I hope CCP will take some action against that kind of behavior.
At least give people a few hours online before you try to steal their stuff, that's just common courtesy.
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Xython
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
778
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Posted - 2012.04.29 22:43:00 -
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Lictor Yeva wrote:Scamming in the rookie systems is pretty low, even for the usual suspects in EVE, and I hope CCP will take some action against that kind of behavior.
At least give people a few hours online before you try to steal their stuff, that's just common courtesy.
Besides, they won't have any good stuff until they get to Jita. |
MeestaPenni
Deadman W0nderland
The 99 Percent
239
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Posted - 2012.04.29 22:58:00 -
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Sentinel Smith wrote: You'd be amazed how many noobs you see in Navy BS's a week into the game..
I would be extremely amazed.
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
I am not Prencleeve Grothsmore. |
Sentinel Smith
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
77
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Posted - 2012.05.01 07:20:00 -
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I guess this is CCP's way of endorsing it.. I mean no word from a dev, GM, or even an ISD..
No action taking from petitions on the guy..
I guess CCP doesn't mind if players go into rookie systems and scam them out of their stuff, as long as we don't pop them..
I must admit, I'm very disappointed in CCP for this :/ |
Cedo Nulli
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
138
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Posted - 2012.05.01 08:28:00 -
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Sid Hudgens wrote:Ah ... imagine suicide ganking inside stations.
If incarna had only brought the ability to suicide gank scammers inside stations (as seen in the future vision trailer) nobody would have shot any monuments as we'd have been too busy shooting scammers and spammers in jita.
You know what ... after they implement the proper "walk in stations not walk in your own room" ... Im going to find a way to transport a platoon of DUST soldiers to a station and go rock and roll on the scammers and other scum. |
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