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Cloue Gallente Stripping Agency	Posted - 2009.03.12 04:15:00 - [1] So looks like i need a new pc and stuff as i just realized my pc is 6 years old Anywho was thinking maybe a dell xps 630 or this custom one i put together on alienware website, Processor: AMD« PhenomÖ X4 9550 Quad Core 2.2GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache Alienware P2 Chassis : Alienware« P2 Chassis - Conspiracy Blue System Lighting: Alienware« Standard System Lighting - Astral Blue Processor Cooling : Alienware« Standard System Cooling Acoustic Dampening: None Power Supply: 750 Watt Alienware« Approved Multi-GPU Power Supply Graphics Processor : Single Graphics Card - 512MB NVIDIA« GeForce« 9800 GT Video Optimiser: AlienAdrenaline v1.0: Video Performance Optimizer - More Info Memory: 4GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 800MHz - 4 x 1024MB Motherboard: Alienware« Approved AMD« 790FX Motherboard Includes PCI-Express 2.0, BIOS Overclocking Utility, and Support for AMD Phenom Quad-Core Processors Operating System: Genuine Windows« Vista Home Premium - English System Drive: Single Drive Configuration - 500GB SATA 3Gb/s 7200 RPM Storage Drive: None Additional Storage Drive: None Primary CD ROM/DVD ROM : 20X Dual Layer DVD¦RW/CD-RW Writer Secondary CD ROM/DVD ROM : None Enthusiast Essentials: Single High Performance Gigabit Ethernet Port Sound Hardware: High-Definition 7.1 Performance Audio - Standard Monitor: (None) Warranty: AlienCare 1-Year Free Phone 24/7 and Collect & Return AlienContact: Added Bonus with any AlienSupport Selection AlienContact - Remote Alienware Support Security Software: None 1200 euro for that which is around my budget, what ya think? P.S. I know this is the wrong place to post this but have no idea where i should have posted it sorry and it is kindy eve related
Grez Minmatar Core Contingency Ignition.	Posted - 2009.03.12 04:19:00 - [2] A) Build it yourself for half the price. B) Get an HD4850/HD4870. --- Have a rawr on me.
mechtech Entropy Industries	Posted - 2009.03.12 04:20:00 - [3] not worth 1200 euro, buy from another company. Since you're looking for a mid/high end build, the GPU should be either a GTX260 or a Radeon 4850/4870. Both of those perform much better than a 9800gt and have a very low cost due to recent price wars. If you get a Phenom, make SURE it's a Phenom II. The Phenom I processor was generally a failure, but the Phenom II is comparable to intel 65nm quads. Expect a lot of "get intel!" posts, and while I would urge you to do that, the Phenom II is actually a fine chip. But again, that isn't worth 1200 euros, not even close. As a general rule, price out the build on newegg/whatever site you use in your country, and don't pay more than a 30% premium just for the brand name and build costs.
Cloue Gallente Stripping Agency	Posted - 2009.03.12 04:26:00 - [4] I would make a balls of it if i built one myself and i was going to chose the radeon 4850 for the xtra 50euro but didnt know there was thet much difference in the 2 cards ---------------------------------------------- 8 out of 10 Owners who Expressed a Preference said Their Cats Preferred Gallente Stripping Agency.
Helena Shun Caldari United Capsuleers' Corporation	Posted - 2009.03.12 04:36:00 - [5] Originally by: Cloue I would make a balls of it if i built one myself and i was going to chose the radeon 4850 for the xtra 50euro but didnt know there was thet much difference in the 2 cards Then get a local geek (not taking about Bestbuy here) to set it up for you, (they would usualy ask for around 30 EUR)... Still would be way cheaper then buying it from Alienware.
mechtech Entropy Industries	Posted - 2009.03.12 04:36:00 - [6] Originally by: Cloue I would make a balls of it if i built one myself and i was going to chose the radeon 4850 for the xtra 50euro but didnt know there was thet much difference in the 2 cards Skip Alienware and just get a normal Dell XPS, you'll get a better deal and better hardware. Dual 9800gt's are fine, but really a 4850 should be a minimum for a build today. Also, if you like using Antialiasing, go with the ATI card (4xAA with hardly ant performance hit). If not, Nvidia and ATI are neck and neck.
Mecinia Lua Galactic Express Burning Horizons	Posted - 2009.03.12 04:40:00 - [7] I bought a new dell a couple months ago. I found a coupon for 20% off online can't remember where :(. It is an Inspiron Desktop not the XPS. The graphics card is only an HD 3450 but it seems to do fine with EVE Premium. I don't do a lot of fleet fighting though so not sure how it would do in that. I did get a bit more RAM than you suggest above, mine has 6GB. IF you can afford the XPS it might be worth it for better graphics card :). I bought the new desktop cause I knew my old one could not really play after Apoc was released. The graphics look very nice on my machine. I was in a budget though and I would have spent more if I could have and gotten a better system but this one is working good for me. Thoughts expressed are mine and mine alone. They do not necessarily reflect my alliances thoughts. Your signature is too large. Please resize it to a maximum of 400 x 120 with the file size not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Mitnal
rValdez5987 Amarr PROGENITOR CORPORATION	Posted - 2009.03.12 04:56:00 - [8] Originally by: Cloue So looks like i need a new pc and stuff as i just realized my pc is 6 years old Anywho was thinking maybe a dell xps 630 or this custom one i put together on alienware website, Processor: AMD« PhenomÖ X4 9550 Quad Core 2.2GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache Alienware P2 Chassis : Alienware« P2 Chassis - Conspiracy Blue System Lighting: Alienware« Standard System Lighting - Astral Blue Processor Cooling : Alienware« Standard System Cooling Acoustic Dampening: None Power Supply: 750 Watt Alienware« Approved Multi-GPU Power Supply Graphics Processor : Single Graphics Card - 512MB NVIDIA« GeForce« 9800 GT Video Optimiser: AlienAdrenaline v1.0: Video Performance Optimizer - More Info Memory: 4GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 800MHz - 4 x 1024MB Motherboard: Alienware« Approved AMD« 790FX Motherboard Includes PCI-Express 2.0, BIOS Overclocking Utility, and Support for AMD Phenom Quad-Core Processors Operating System: Genuine Windows« Vista Home Premium - English System Drive: Single Drive Configuration - 500GB SATA 3Gb/s 7200 RPM Storage Drive: None Additional Storage Drive: None Primary CD ROM/DVD ROM : 20X Dual Layer DVD¦RW/CD-RW Writer Secondary CD ROM/DVD ROM : None Enthusiast Essentials: Single High Performance Gigabit Ethernet Port Sound Hardware: High-Definition 7.1 Performance Audio - Standard Monitor: (None) Warranty: AlienCare 1-Year Free Phone 24/7 and Collect & Return AlienContact: Added Bonus with any AlienSupport Selection AlienContact - Remote Alienware Support Security Software: None 1200 euro for that which is around my budget, what ya think? P.S. I know this is the wrong place to post this but have no idea where i should have posted it sorry and it is kindy eve related GO TO THIS WEBSITE, DESIGN YOUR PC, PAY A FRACTION OF THE COST. www.pricewatch.com Also give link to your friends. This website has saved me thousands of $$$
Daelorn Perkone	Posted - 2009.03.12 05:06:00 - [9] I rage every time someone wants to buy a PC now, especially something way overpriced like an Alienware. If you can use a screw driver, and plug in plugs (that only fit into the right slots), then you can build a computer!
Khalm Pyydys	Posted - 2009.03.12 06:58:00 - [10] Couple of points. Buy the machine elsewhere you get it cheaper and also couple of suggestions which will make your EVE experience a lot better. This Graphics Card sucks ****. Single Graphics Card - 512MB NVIDIA« GeForce« 9800 GT Get your self an Radeon 4870hd which price/performance ratio is awesome. If you are an nvidia fan try 9800GTX or GT260/280. AMD processors. Processor: AMD« PhenomÖ X4 9550 Quad Core 2.2GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache Well ok this is a personal view, but I would take an Intel. Also EVE doesn't take advantage of multiple CPU cores. Its better to get a fast clocked 2 core processor than low clocked 4 core. In this case we are comparing 2.2GHz vs. 3+GHz. I would get Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 or something similar. Or if you know you will need quad core. Then Intel iCore7. ---

Cloue Gallente Stripping Agency	Posted - 2009.03.12 15:36:00 - [11] Ok tried a dell xps 430 and im stuck between these two.. Base PREMIUM - Intel« Core 2 Quad Processor Q9550 (2.83GHz, 1333MHz, 12MB cache) Microsoft Operating System Genuine Windows Vista« Home Premium SP1 - English Memory 4096MB 1067 MHz Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM [4x1024] Video Card Graphics 1GB ATI Radeon 3870 X2 graphics card Hard Drive 1.2 TB (2x 640 GB) Serial ATA (7200 Rpm) Dual HDD Config or Base Intel« Core 2 Quad Processor Q9300 (2.50GHz, 1333MHz, 6MB cache) Microsoft Operating System Genuine Windows Vista« Home Premium SP1 (64 Bit) - English Memory 8192MB 1066 MHz Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM [4x2048] Video Card 512MB ATI« RadeonÖ 4850 Graphics card Hard Drive 1.2 TB (2x 640 GB) Serial ATA (7200 Rpm) Dual HDD Config Raid 0 Stripe both are same price as the alienware one..
Korizan Oort Cloud Industries	Posted - 2009.03.12 15:48:00 - [12] Edited by: Korizan on 12/03/2009 15:49:36 Just built a PC Myself 2 Screens 1st - 1600 x 1200 / 2nd 1280x1024 I get on average 120 FPS in the active window & 90 FPS on the inactive window. Doesn't matter which one is active. Computer Motherboard - ASUS M4A79 CPU - AMD Phenom II x4 2.8 GHz Power SUpply - 650 W (Corsair) RAM - 8 gig OCZ Reaper DDR2 Hard Drive - 2 Seagate Barracuda 7200 250 GB each Vista 64 bit ultimate of course QTY -2 Diamond VIper 3870's ( I have one monitor hooked up to each video card not using crossfire) So it all depends on your budget but you don't have to break the bank to get good rates and you don't have to have the latest stuff either. Just make a good build and you should be fine.
Agent Unknown Caldari	Posted - 2009.03.12 15:56:00 - [13] My 3850 purrs like a kitten playing with 2 clients...sometimes it shoots to 170 FPS. Then again, it's at a crap resolution because for some reason all the widescreen modes disappeared ----------------------------------- "What can go wrong, will go wrong."
KISOGOKU	Posted - 2009.03.12 16:02:00 - [14] Edited by: KISOGOKU on 12/03/2009 16:02:53 Where are you from ? I guess europe from euro .Last 2 PCs expensive for their configurations.my advice find someone can build a PC and pay some if necessary and build your own configuration http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FS-152-OK 605 Sterlin/Pounds not euro dont confuse .
Superbrinkie	Posted - 2009.03.12 16:05:00 - [15] Edited by: Superbrinkie on 12/03/2009 16:06:48 I have my PC for sale. Specs: - Coolermaster Centurion 5 - SilverStone Decathlon 750 Watt Power Supply - MSI P45 Neo3-FR (Socket 775) - Intel« CoreTM 2 Duo E8500 (2x 3166MHz Bus speed 1333MHz) - Club3D HD4870 Over clocked Edition 1024MB - Creative X-fi Xtreme Gamer (Soundcard with X-fi technology) - GeiL 4 GB DDR2-800 - Western Digital Caviar 160 GB Hard Drive - HP CD/Dvd Player Ç1000,- Convo me ingame ;)
John Hollow Minmatar Afterisk	Posted - 2009.03.12 16:16:00 - [16] Man, I would definitely build my own new system if I already had an alienware tower to put the parts in. I think they look sweet.
Sarah sindoff	Posted - 2009.03.12 17:05:00 - [17] Buy an Apple
Korrakas Caldari Legion of Ascension Beyond Ascension	Posted - 2009.03.12 17:24:00 - [18] Originally by: John Hollow Man, I would definitely build my own new system if I already had an alienware tower to put the parts in. I think they look sweet. You can buy alienware towers at Alienware Case for ú25
John Hollow Minmatar Afterisk	Posted - 2009.03.12 17:42:00 - [19] Originally by: Korrakas Edited by: Korrakas on 12/03/2009 17:40:19 Originally by: John Hollow Man, I would definitely build my own new system if I already had an alienware tower to put the parts in. I think they look sweet. You can buy alienware towers at Alienware Case for ú25 p.s build your own, I built mine 1 month ago Case:HAF 932 Cool, thanks for the link! CPU:Intel i7 920 @ 4.0 GHz Mobo:Gigabyte UD4 RAM:3GB Corsair XMS DDR3 Graphics Card:XFX HD4870X2 PSU:1000W Xclio Cooling for OC purposes: Ultra 120 + the HAF comes with huge fans on the intake,side,top and exhaust and this only cost me ú1350 (including ú50 to my local pc shop to build it for me). It runs EVE at 1680x1025 with AAx32 and AFx16 and everything else on full without a hiccup and with a 4.0GHz i7 (the fastest processor atm) your set for the next 4 years (and the extra PCIx16 slot allows you to add another 4870X2 for 4GB of crossfire goodness once prices drop when the new HD4900s come out next year). TL;DR BUILD YOUR OWN FTW
Sleeper Killa Amarr Squirrel Horde	Posted - 2009.03.12 17:44:00 - [20] Originally by: Grez A) Build it yourself for half the price. B) Get an HD4850/HD4870. This! -SK

John Hollow Minmatar Afterisk	Posted - 2009.03.12 17:45:00 - [21] Wait...."X-Case Alienwars"...wars? I wonder if that is an official case or not?
John Hollow Minmatar Afterisk	Posted - 2009.03.12 17:47:00 - [22] Sorry to derail too much here. Looking closely at the case for sale on that site, I see there is no alien logo on it and the pain job looks like a flat black spray paint. I think it's a cheap rip-off of the alienware case .
Korrakas Caldari Legion of Ascension Beyond Ascension	Posted - 2009.03.12 18:02:00 - [23] Edited by: Korrakas on 12/03/2009 18:04:22 you can always just stick the little alien face on... the alienware case isint as impressive as it looks in pics, I have a friend who's considerably richer than me and decided to buy a pre-made alienware at the same time I made my rig, and tbh the alienware doesnt impress me at all compared to mine and others custom made rigs. + if your talking about rip-offs Alienware are the best at that, they mark up 30% just for the brand name. But still they are "gaming rigs" for rich kids they do their job.. Alienwars Alienwares
Tlaloc Camaxtli	Posted - 2009.03.12 18:04:00 - [24] Edited by: Tlaloc Camaxtli on 12/03/2009 18:05:58 You wont be able to buy an aliencase, the only way you would be able to get a genuine alienware is to buy an alienware PC or buy one off ebay. FYI: http://www.cougar-extreme.co.uk/ = awesome custom site, awesomely cheap and the support you get is second to none. DONT buy from alienware!! you can get more bang for your buck elseware. personally id go for an AMD CPU and an Nvidia GPU. PS: if your computer is going to be for gaming DONT waste your money on a quad core, get a dual core instead!
Cloue Gallente Stripping Agency	Posted - 2009.03.12 18:04:00 - [25] Problem is with me building one my own i realy wouldnt have a clue and if i mess up on something im lossing money plus the time and effort it to much cause im a lazy sob Also i need a new pc very soon as i cant log into eve atm with my crap pc
Tlaloc Camaxtli	Posted - 2009.03.12 18:07:00 - [26] Originally by: Cloue Problem is with me building one my own i realy wouldnt have a clue and if i mess up on something im lossing money plus the time and effort it to much cause im a lazy sob Also i need a new pc very soon as i cant log into eve atm with my crap pc go here >>> http://www.cougar-extreme.co.uk/
Cloue Gallente Stripping Agency	Posted - 2009.03.12 18:17:00 - [27] Originally by: Tlaloc Camaxtli Originally by: Cloue Problem is with me building one my own i realy wouldnt have a clue and if i mess up on something im lossing money plus the time and effort it to much cause im a lazy sob Also i need a new pc very soon as i cant log into eve atm with my crap pc go here >>> http://www.cougar-extreme.co.uk/ I dont think they ship to ireland
Soljour Death's Phalanx	Posted - 2009.03.12 18:28:00 - [28] Dell bought Alienware a couple years ago. So buying an alienware is just buying an expensive Dell. Dont waste your money, build your own. If you cant figure it out have a local computer store build it for you.
Khlitouris RegusII	Posted - 2009.03.12 18:40:00 - [29] Originally by: mechtech Originally by: Cloue I would make a balls of it if i built one myself and i was going to chose the radeon 4850 for the xtra 50euro but didnt know there was thet much difference in the 2 cards Skip Alienware and just get a normal Dell XPS, you'll get a better deal and better hardware. Dual 9800gt's are fine, but really a 4850 should be a minimum for a build today. Also, if you like using Antialiasing, go with the ATI card (4xAA with hardly ant performance hit). If not, Nvidia and ATI are neck and neck. Skip alienware and dell(thecompanythathasnocluehowtobuildapc)and build it yourself
Naran Darkmood Gallente Firman AB 101010 Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.12 18:40:00 - [30] If you have a a budget of 1200 Ç try something like that. Otherwise try the PC-Builder on the same site.



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