So, Mittens got banned for being a giant piece of crap...and goons are "Protesting" a valid and deserved ban. I'm confused about this whole Burn Jita thing, not to mention looks like CCP is showing their support for Goons in full by not only fixing a bug (just so they could do burn jita) but letting them get away with it...

Gotta love Eve Online...

Good to know people support thee single largest grouping of cheaters, hackers, and general scum of the internet! :)

Welp, good thing I've not been in Jita for many a year and have no plans on going there anyway. Suppose Goons thing they are "making a statement / impact" with this and CCP's support proves them right.

Welcome to Eve Online: Goon'ferno

Good to know people support thee single largest grouping of cheaters, hackers, and general scum of the internet! :)

Actually he got drunk and acted like a giant piece of crap, got caught, made a fake heart felt appology to appease CCP, CCP was appeased but the PR division stepped in for the new Sony overlords (regarding dust 514), Alex got banned, he then but butthurt like a carebear, and then he formulated this plan that does not seem to be affecting me in any way shape or form.



False story.

FTFY

Actually, he got drunk and acted like a giant piece of crap, got caught, made a fake heart felt appology to appease CCP, CCP was appeased but the PR division stepped in for the new Sony overlords (regarding dust 514), Alex got banned, he then but butthurt like a carebear, and then he formulated this plan that does not seem to be affecting me in any way shape or form.



True story.

I'm pretty sure Burn Jita was planned well before the ban.

Also Goons would do this for any reason whatsoever. Like for example is it sunny outside somewhere on the planet? rainy? Did anyone on earth take a breath in the last 20 years?

Actually that is precisely how it went down.

And you're a first hand source?

Actually that is precisely how it went down.

It was as if I was on TS3 as the great Alex spoke the words aloud.

Burn Jita was planned ages ago. They moved the date to coincide with mittens unbanning. It would have happened regardless.

Burn Jita was planned ages ago. They moved the date to coincide with mittens unbanning. It would have happened regardless.

Can you supply that TS3 recording? Because the one I heard seemed to suggest otherwise.

Can you substantiate any of these claims?

No, you idiot, it wasn't.

http://soundcloud.com/cptunderpants/state-of-the-goonion-march ---- Again, spoken here, as being planned during this State of the Goonion.

So, Mittens got banned for being a giant piece of crap...and goons are "Protesting" a valid and deserved ban. I'm confused about this whole Burn Jita thing, not to mention looks like CCP is showing their support for Goons in full by not only fixing a bug (just so they could do burn jita) but letting them get away with it...

Gotta love Eve Online...

Good to know people support thee single largest grouping of cheaters, hackers, and general scum of the internet! :)

Welp, good thing I've not been in Jita for many a year and have no plans on going there anyway. Suppose Goons think they are "making a statement / impact" with this and CCP's support proves them right.

Welcome to Eve Online: Goon'ferno

http://soundcloud.com/cptunderpants/state-of-the-goonion-march

Here it is, for your proof. He was complaining about being banned, and being tossed under the bus by CCP. :) He knows how to complain that's sure.

So, Mittens got banned for being a giant piece of crap...and goons are "Protesting" a valid and deserved ban. I'm confused about this whole Burn Jita thing, not to mention looks like CCP is showing their support for Goons in full by not only fixing a bug (just so they could do burn jita) but letting them get away with it...

Gotta love Eve Online...

Good to know people support thee single largest grouping of cheaters, hackers, and general scum of the internet! :)

Welp, good thing I've not been in Jita for many a year and have no plans on going there anyway. Suppose Goons think they are "making a statement / impact" with this and CCP's support proves them right.

Welcome to Eve Online: Goon'ferno

Can you substantiate any of these claims?

It doesnt matter cause even if we showed you a million examples your so pro Goons youd reuse to see them so just stick your head back in the sand and be happy again lol

So it's just easier to not give any examples because you don't actually have any. I get it.

So it's just easier to not give any examples because you don't actually have any. I get it.

No we have tons, you'd just say they were all "faked" or "not true" so why bother showing them to you? you're pro goons, and anything that is anti-goons you'd shoot down just because you can't handle the truth.

So, Mittens got banned for being a giant piece of crap...and goons are "Protesting" a valid and deserved ban. I'm confused about this whole Burn Jita thing, not to mention looks like CCP is showing their support for Goons in full by not only fixing a bug (just so they could do burn jita) but letting them get away with it...

Gotta love Eve Online...

Good to know people support thee single largest grouping of cheaters, hackers, and general scum of the internet! :)

Welp, good thing I've not been in Jita for many a year and have no plans on going there anyway. Suppose Goons think they are "making a statement / impact" with this and CCP's support proves them right.

Welcome to Eve Online: Goon'ferno

No, you idiot, it wasn't.

http://soundcloud.com/cptunderpants/state-of-the-goonion-march ---- Again, spoken here, as being planned during this State of the Goonion.

This thread is so bad its good.

The Plan 9 From Outer Space of today's forums.

are you deaf where he mentions it was planned before? Heck, people have been wanting a burn jita for years. Now there was a bit more drive to do it. Was bound to happen, now is just cooler that there is a crime wave. Will die off, will be glorious, and will be back to business.

lol hey look its a might-as-well-be-a-goon
are you pets?

Hey dumb pubbie, read the last paragraph from this CEO update by Mittens

http://www.evenews24.com/2012/01/14/prime-intel-goonswarm-federation-ceo-update-victory-in-branch/

This back in January, over 3 months before fan fest even happened.

So, Mittens got banned for being a giant piece of crap...and goons are "Protesting" a valid and deserved ban. I'm confused about this whole Burn Jita thing, not to mention looks like CCP is showing their support for Goons in full by not only fixing a bug (just so they could do burn jita) but letting them get away with it...

Gotta love Eve Online...

Good to know people support thee single largest grouping of cheaters, hackers, and general scum of the internet! :)

Welp, good thing I've not been in Jita for many a year and have no plans on going there anyway. Suppose Goons think they are "making a statement / impact" with this and CCP's support proves them right.

Welcome to Eve Online: Goon'ferno

your knowledge of nullsec politics is incredible! You should educate us about the minutiae of CFC political dynamics. I'm sure ti would be riveting.

They are playing by the rules. They are hardly act like cheaters.

They don't hack. RMT rings do.

General Scum of the Internet? That may as well be all of us. Eve Online is the Mad Max world of the MMO market.

Morons.

I agree. Anyone who believes their your friends or ally would have to be that.
Oh my bad you call them pets. Or is it cannon fodder?

all the ppl you have defending you all... **** you should hook CCP up with YOUR spin doctors they need them more than you do

Precisely

If only you knew how often CFC members bicker and fight, fly alongside hostile alliances, reset each other, etc. We're like a bunch of brothers more than anything. Goons are the big bro sure, but they aren't in charge of everything. Hell, sometimes they follow TEST's lead. Remember Morsus Mihi?

I agree. Anyone who believes their your friends or ally would have to be that.
Oh my bad you call them pets. Or is it cannon fodder?

all the ppl you have defending you all... **** you should hook CCP up with YOUR spin doctors they need them more than you do

If Raiden. or whoever decides to try and take a swipe at an ally, and that ally looks like they might not handle it, Goons will come and help out if asked. Not for any cost, or payment or anything. Just to help out a friend in need.

So you can take your little "pets" business and turn around and go back to whatever corner of space that you call home and enjoy your little ideas on your own time.

So basically you have some "evidence" but it wouldn't hold up at all, or can be easily refuted. So you don't want to show it.

Christ. Goons aren't protesting anything. If anything, they are celebrating the return of their leader. Also testing CCP's dedication to the sandbox.

Can you substantiate any of these claims?

In fact, this whole thing was orchestrated by CFC in cooperation with CCP.

SMA was kind enough to host a bunch of fellows (ENEMIES, fyi) for some time before having to evict them.

Thanks for letting us join the party !

SMA=biggest waste of time spent spying on an enemy

You guys need to up the rent on those freeloaders, or you might as well blue all idiots in eve

PS: SMA members gets free access to your mumble, thanks

My my, I guess all those threads saying to ban all goons before they could do this were in vain then, eh?

Don't need to substantiate, it's common knowledge. Of course you'd disagree due to being a brown nose bee pet.

SMA is a joke though, respect for goons and test and even fa etc. But SMA? "Today we got an alliance meeting, plan is.... and I don't care that all spies sits and listens on our TS now... **** how did they know we were coming? ... SB fleet please decloak and open fire on that interceptor... we lost fleet guys.... fleet op? I am a miner!.... Guys I lost all the PLEXES, I guess hauling afk in a shuttle through highsec was dumb, derp.... guys where is everyone? only 10 people on in entire alliance when we are invaded... some noob corp wardecced us today, noobs .... Oh **** guys they are mercs and they just ganked us all...


SMA=biggest waste of time spent spying on an enemy

You guys need to up the rent on those freeloaders, or you might as well blue all idiots in eve

PS: SMA members gets free access to your mumble, thanks

SMA are pretty awesome, TBH. For being a small alliance they really do pull a whole ton of weight. And they fight like crazy.

hey its dark-rising werent they in BoB 2.0 ~IT Alliance~?

SMA did a very good amount of work in Branch, and they've got a nice bit of branch (which they helped take).

But you just see them as pets or renters. Whatever makes you feel happy, I guess.


Oh, and there's no way we're gonna blue highsec. Heh. How does flashy red sound?

DMC, can you link me to any hard evidence? If you guys can show me some hard, unrefutable evidence, I will change my mind about GSF.

Already said there was no need to link any hard evidence and I cba to waste my time when you clearly won't change your mind.

Offhand I'd say the most common known scam is the recruitment fee scam. Oh and The Mittani himself at Fanfest bragged about scamming players for isk with fake Titans.

Anyway, on to another thread.

who cares if it's revenge or not?

honestly I thought his FF comments while ill advised were not anything nearly as bad as the future FOX news (newscorp for you Brits) commentators on the forums made it out to be.

I watched the video and frankly see much more disturbing (and in some cases illegal) speech in jita local right now

CCP really needs to man the hell up, they are 50% responsible for mittens getting to the point where he could get hammered and say stupid **** on stage at fanfest, yet he gets to be the subject of a bloody witch hunt by gutless pubbies on the forums and drooling mid-level accountants at CCP while I get to listen to dozens of alts in jita spewing hate speech and posting content in chat that would lead to a ban of most any other players if CCP actually decided to pay attention to something that doesn't get play in the gamer blogs or has to be reported to them via the petition system.

Really, like him or hate him, mittens got a raw deal and CCP's response to the entire overblown situation was abhorrently shameful.

In my book he's entitled to some bitterness

Already said there was no need to link any hard evidence

See, there is this big difference between scamming (which is allowed) and cheating (which includes botting and exploiting and things like that). So I'd be interested to hear what evidence you have pertaining to *actual* cheating. And if you have evidence, you should also report it.

GǪand what you say doesn't matter, because the need is still there. Onus probandi GÇö your old foil GÇö strikes again.


Anyway, yes, OP, you are indeed confused since the Jita attack was planned long before fanfest and was most famously presented as a reward, should he get 10k votes in the CSM elections (that was in early March, btw). Also, CCP is not showing them any support beyond thinking it awesome that the game they've created allows for this kind of gameplay (and rubbing their hands in glee over the media attention that will be, and already has been, created).

If we break 10k votes this year, we're going to annihilate Jita - and everyone is invited. http://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=438 #tweetfleet #eveonline #csm7

9:44 PM - 6 Mar 12 via web

Go listen to the recorded TS session, it was planned AFTER the ban. Where Mittens said, and I quote "CCP threw me under a bus" end quote. The TS recording is on these forums and on youtube and soundcloud, go look it up.

This situation as well as all the recent and proposed changes proves without a shadow of a doubt that CCP has no balls or backbone. Claiming this is testing CCP's dedication to the sandbox is pure bullshit. This situation shows CCP doesn't give a rats-ass about the sandbox. In fact, this whole thing was orchestrated by CFC in cooperation with CCP.

Some players are worried the game will be ruined by The Mittani's Goonswarm alliance, but CCP promised not to interfere.

"I tell you what, it's going to be f***ing brilliant," Jon Lander, senior producer of Eve Online, told Eurogamer this morning. "Absolutely brilliant. They're going to do exactly what you're able to do in the game, and people will have to roll with it. It'll be great. Last night I got an email - Jita was at 2100. Time dilation kicked in at 15 per cent. And there were people just watching the sh*t that was going down. It was brilliant. It was absolutely great."

No, you idiot, it wasn't.

http://soundcloud.com/cptunderpants/state-of-the-goonion-march ---- Again, spoken here, as being planned during this State of the Goonion.

Check the 6 March Tweet from the Mittani http://twitter.com/#!/themittani

Check your facts.

Interesting so you dont think if someone showed you they were suicidal and you used your corp contacts to try and push him over the edge and commit himself to that course, and CCP found out (even not in a public forum mind you) you dont think youd get a perminant ban for that? I damn sure think you would.
And two wrong dont makea right... dunno if you know that. So regardless of what the drooling Bees in Jita say that doesnt make it better.

Have you reported those people saying such illegal and horrible things? Cause if that answer is no youre partly to blame then as well. Theyre not gonna report thenmselves.

This situation as well as all the recent and proposed changes proves without a shadow of a doubt that CCP has no balls or backbone. Claiming this is testing CCP's dedication to the sandbox is pure bullshit. This situation shows CCP doesn't give a rats-ass about the sandbox. In fact, this whole thing was orchestrated by CFC in cooperation with CCP.

Don't know since I never posted anything like that.

as far as jita local goes, it's not my job to police CCP's game and I'm not about to spend my game time filing petitions when any reasonably intelligent company would post GMs in what would be considered a high density trolling area during this event

Actually, he got drunk and acted like a giant piece of crap, got caught, made a fake heart felt appology to appease CCP, CCP was appeased but the PR division stepped in for the new Sony overlords (regarding dust 514), Alex got banned, he then got butthurt like a carebear, and then he formulated this plan that does not seem to be affecting me in any way shape or form.



True story.

^^This^^

I got to ***** some nice free killmails (different character) in Jita, though, so for that I must thank Mr. Assholeander Giantturdo. Keep it coming!

See, there is this big difference between scamming (which is allowed) and cheating (which includes botting and exploiting and things like that). So I'd be interested to hear what evidence you have pertaining to *actual* cheating. And if you have evidence, you should also report it.

Edit: somethingawful created .... 4chan.

It did? Really? Interesting...or are you kidding?

Killing pixels is equal to RL murder mmmmkay!

They are using a mechanic, which is open for anyone, of any size to do, suicide ganking isnt new, and has been around since the game began, this is just the biggest we have seen it be since the last hulkageddon.

As for CCP supporting it, why would they not? this game is a sandbox, shaped by those who play, anyone can do this, its not limited to a small group, it makes news, positive news, be it slightly ironic positive news, and shows that Eve truely is a sandbox.

So, CCP need only Goons accounts to survive on the market and to continue developing their game(s)? Everyone else is just extra money and CCP don't give a **** about them?
Interesting facts ....

Didn't you learn from this?

again... and BoB were similarly adept at following the rules.

Only 12 freighters?



I agree. Anyone who believes their your friends or ally would have to be that.
Oh my bad you call them pets. Or is it cannon fodder?

all the ppl you have defending you all... **** you should hook CCP up with YOUR spin doctors they need them more than you do

Already said there was no need to link any hard evidence and I cba to waste my time when you clearly won't change your mind.

Look how completely furious this faceless irrelevant this NPC alt is lmao

"My claims are substantiated by popular perception!"

oh DMC never stop

DMC is an inbred moron. c/d?

Oh damn, cant claim to be Mittens, looks like he's back, or its funny Andski was banned at the same time....

But yes, need moar Goons to poast so I can make more red lines appear.

DMC, can you link me to any hard evidence? If you guys can show me some hard, unrefutable evidence, I will change my mind about GSF.

So, CCP need only Goons accounts to survive on the market and to continue developing their game(s)? Everyone else is just extra money and CCP don't give a **** about them?
Interesting facts ....

How did you get from "anyone can do this", "positive news", "sandbox" to "CCP need only Goons accounts"? I didn't think bubblegum stretched that far!