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Digital Messiah
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
202
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Posted - 2012.04.28 03:33:00 -
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Seems like this would be a good time to coordinate an attack on them. Seeing as to some extent their resources are split. Has to be a few fleet leaders etc not present. "Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn"
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Serene Repose
Perkone Caldari State
720
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Posted - 2012.04.28 03:34:00 -
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Shhhh. Nobody thought of that yet. I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á |

Messoroz
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
195
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Posted - 2012.04.28 03:35:00 -
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Digital Messiah wrote:Seems like this would be a good time to coordinate an attack on them. Seeing as to some extent their resources are split. Has to be a few fleet leaders etc not present.
So what? Reinforcement timers gives them 2 days to just go back and pillage attackers. |

Aina Sasaki
Red Core Paradigm Shift Alliance
23
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Posted - 2012.04.28 03:35:00 -
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I'm sure the idea of doing that has crossed someone's mind... and probably the goons as well. I'd suspect that they are quite prepared for the possibility that someone would try to hit them while this fun in Jita is going on. - Rei |

Krios Ahzek
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
786
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Posted - 2012.04.28 03:36:00 -
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You do know that we can just set our clones to VFK, self destruct our pods, and hop in our combat ships with two minutes of prep time?
That's discounting the fact that we also have alts in Deklein..
-áThough All Men Do Despise Us |

Sister Rhode
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
29
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Posted - 2012.04.28 03:37:00 -
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Please do.
In fact, there is a key to VFK under the welcome mat.
Make yourself at home.
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Karadion Kohlar
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.04.28 03:37:00 -
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You're right. Please go siege VFK with titans, supers, etc.
We all know how that played out last year. |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1071
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Posted - 2012.04.28 03:38:00 -
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Oh, what I would give for butthurt highsec gankers to attack CFC space. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |

Mohr Cowbell
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
352
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Posted - 2012.04.28 03:41:00 -
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Digital Messiah wrote:Seems like this would be a good time to coordinate an attack on them. Seeing as to some extent their resources are split. Has to be a few fleet leaders etc not present.
Yes, you really should do this |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
493
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Posted - 2012.04.28 03:44:00 -
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Karadion Kohlar wrote:You're right. Please go siege VFK with titans, supers, etc.
We all know how that played out last year. Yes, but these are highsec people, they don't know.
Come on and party, its like jita statue, but instead with with shooting the VFK station. If you get it to 0hp, you get a prize! Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
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Lance Mineroid
Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.04.28 03:45:00 -
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Or you could ReInforce all of their CSAAs and stop the builds or kill the towers. That would totally make them mad. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
493
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Posted - 2012.04.28 03:45:00 -
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Digital Messiah wrote: Has to be a few fleet leaders etc not present. Oh, by the way, our fleets in Jita? Are led by our fleet leaders.
Have you met DaBigRedBoat yet? He was having a hell of a time. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
493
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Posted - 2012.04.28 03:46:00 -
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Lance Mineroid wrote:Or you could ReInforce all of their CSAAs and stop the builds or kill the towers. That would totally make them mad. You should totally do this. In fact, there's mention of such events occuring in the thread telling us to get titans.
It was not a fearful one. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |

Digital Messiah
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
202
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Posted - 2012.04.28 03:48:00 -
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Yes I understand that you can easily return to your own space. But at some point sovereignty of that region has to be taken back. CFC and GSF are a strong alliance. But nothing in EVE has ever proven to be invincible. "Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn"
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John Caffeine
Fairlight Corp
7
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Posted - 2012.04.28 03:48:00 -
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The game current gamemechancis and reinforce timers would make a "surprise" attack completly pointless.
Attacking someone's home space while they're away only works when they're tied up with campaigns elsewhere, and can't just jumpclone back home. |

Karadion Kohlar
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.04.28 03:49:00 -
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Digital Messiah wrote:Yes I understand that you can easily return to your own space. But at some point sovereignty of that region has to be taken back. CFC and GSF are a strong alliance. But nothing in EVE has ever proven to be invincible. That implies we've lost the space and we have to take it back. I don't think you get how sov / siege mechanic works. |

bigbillthaboss3
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.04.28 03:50:00 -
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****NEWS ALERT*** Goons space is currently under attack by the 'Gurista Alliance', someone took this seriously! |

Digital Messiah
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
202
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Posted - 2012.04.28 03:51:00 -
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Karadion Kohlar wrote:Digital Messiah wrote:Yes I understand that you can easily return to your own space. But at some point sovereignty of that region has to be taken back. CFC and GSF are a strong alliance. But nothing in EVE has ever proven to be invincible. That implies we've lost the space and we have to take it back. I don't think you get how sov / siege mechanic works.
Taken back was meant toward other alliances / corporations coming in to take that space from you. You see all sovereignty in EVE is held by an alliance but is owned by all the games players in reality. Though I would change my statement and opinion about this if GSF was capable of holding that region from today until the servers shut down. "Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn"
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Karadion Kohlar
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.04.28 03:54:00 -
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Digital Messiah wrote:Karadion Kohlar wrote:Digital Messiah wrote:Yes I understand that you can easily return to your own space. But at some point sovereignty of that region has to be taken back. CFC and GSF are a strong alliance. But nothing in EVE has ever proven to be invincible. That implies we've lost the space and we have to take it back. I don't think you get how sov / siege mechanic works. Taken back was meant toward other alliances / corporations coming in to take that space from you. You see all sovereignty in EVE is held by an alliance but is owned by all the games players in reality. Though I would change my statement and opinion about this if GSF was capable of holding that region from today until the servers shut down. Oh please. Tell me who is this brave alliance / corporation that will do this? IT Alliance (BoB #23489072352934) tried this last year and failed horribly. Why? We **** caged EVERY POS that they had deployed in VFK. There's also the fact that we can easily deploy 900 consistently all day round to ensure that no enemy gains a foothold in VFK. It's a nice thought from pubbies like you but no one will do it. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
493
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Posted - 2012.04.28 03:55:00 -
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John Caffeine wrote:The game current gamemechancis and reinforce timers would make a "surprise" attack completly pointless.
Attacking someone's home space while they're away only works when they're tied up with campaigns elsewhere, and can't just jumpclone back home. Right. And it wouldn't be hard at all to get a thousand over drakes, two capfleets and a supercap fleet into Delve or Cobalt Edge thanks to the disgusting thing known as Titan Bridges.
I saw people saying NC. should try to retake the tech moons they "didn't want" in Venal. Heh, that would be some real fun ~ (not really, POS shooting is only liked by a few people.) Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
931
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Posted - 2012.04.28 03:55:00 -
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Can think of 10000 reasons why this wouldn't work.
Snipa |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
493
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Posted - 2012.04.28 03:56:00 -
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Karadion Kohlar wrote:Oh please. Tell me who is this brave alliance / corporation that will do this? IT Alliance (BoB #23489072352934) tried this last year and failed horribly. Why? We **** caged EVERY POS that they had deployed in VFK. There's also the fact that we can easily deploy 900 consistently all day round to ensure that no enemy gains a foothold in VFK. It's a nice thought from pubbies like you but no one will do it. No nonononono, we're about to fail cascade.
A headshot to VFK would END us once and for all ~~~ don't do it, leave us aloneeeee~~~ Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1071
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Posted - 2012.04.28 03:57:00 -
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bigbillthaboss3 wrote:****NEWS ALERT*** Goons space is currently under attack by the 'Gurista Alliance', someone took this seriously!
Have you seen their killboard? Its insane! Almost as crazy as Serpentis, Bane of TEST. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
493
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Posted - 2012.04.28 03:58:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:bigbillthaboss3 wrote:****NEWS ALERT*** Goons space is currently under attack by the 'Gurista Alliance', someone took this seriously! Have you seen their killboard? Its insane! Almost as crazy as Serpentis, Bane of TEST. You only need to call if you are under attack by the Serpentis ~
But I think your ratting isn't FFA, so you'd have to allow us to help, otherwise you will have to collect their bounties all by yourselves. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |

Masamune Dekoro
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
86
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Posted - 2012.04.28 03:59:00 -
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Carebear invasion.
To the hulks! Invade Deklein!
There is nothing wrong with this plan. |

Karadion Kohlar
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.04.28 03:59:00 -
[26] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:John Caffeine wrote:The game current gamemechancis and reinforce timers would make a "surprise" attack completly pointless.
Attacking someone's home space while they're away only works when they're tied up with campaigns elsewhere, and can't just jumpclone back home. Right. And it wouldn't be hard at all to get a thousand over drakes, two capfleets and a supercap fleet into Delve or Cobalt Edge thanks to the disgusting thing known as Titan Bridges. I saw people saying NC. should try to retake the tech moons they "didn't want" in Venal. Heh, that would be some real fun ~ (not really, POS shooting is only liked by a few people.) I like POS shooting. Getting in the top ten is fun for me. Then again I'm deaf and dumb so I got no soul and nothing to live for.
Even #1 like this http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13069314 |

John Caffeine
Fairlight Corp
7
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Posted - 2012.04.28 04:02:00 -
[27] - Quote
Karadion Kohlar wrote:Digital Messiah wrote:Karadion Kohlar wrote:Digital Messiah wrote:Yes I understand that you can easily return to your own space. But at some point sovereignty of that region has to be taken back. CFC and GSF are a strong alliance. But nothing in EVE has ever proven to be invincible. That implies we've lost the space and we have to take it back. I don't think you get how sov / siege mechanic works. Taken back was meant toward other alliances / corporations coming in to take that space from you. You see all sovereignty in EVE is held by an alliance but is owned by all the games players in reality. Though I would change my statement and opinion about this if GSF was capable of holding that region from today until the servers shut down. Oh please. Tell me who is this brave alliance / corporation that will do this? IT Alliance (BoB #23489072352934) tried this last year and failed horribly. Why? We **** caged EVERY POS that they had deployed in VFK. There's also the fact that we can easily deploy 900 consistently all day round to ensure that no enemy gains a foothold in VFK. It's a nice thought from pubbies like you but no one will do it.
When did IT try to headshot VFK? One year ago they had already lost all space and collapsed. During MAX 2.0 they never went for VFK; and GSF wasn't really a major player yet. I can't remember any other attempts from IT so I'm going to assume you meant PL.
You are right though, there's no entity in the game right now that would even stand a chance at taking space off you, which is why no'one will try. It's the reason people group up in huge coaltions after all, safety in numbers and all that. |

Digital Messiah
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
202
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Posted - 2012.04.28 04:02:00 -
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Karadion Kohlar wrote:Digital Messiah wrote:Karadion Kohlar wrote:Digital Messiah wrote:Yes I understand that you can easily return to your own space. But at some point sovereignty of that region has to be taken back. CFC and GSF are a strong alliance. But nothing in EVE has ever proven to be invincible. That implies we've lost the space and we have to take it back. I don't think you get how sov / siege mechanic works. Taken back was meant toward other alliances / corporations coming in to take that space from you. You see all sovereignty in EVE is held by an alliance but is owned by all the games players in reality. Though I would change my statement and opinion about this if GSF was capable of holding that region from today until the servers shut down. Oh please. Tell me who is this brave alliance / corporation that will do this? IT Alliance (BoB #23489072352934) tried this last year and failed horribly. Why? We **** caged EVERY POS that they had deployed in VFK. There's also the fact that we can easily deploy 900 consistently all day round to ensure that no enemy gains a foothold in VFK. It's a nice thought from pubbies like you but no one will do it.
But I hardly ever hear of GSF taking other space. So surely if you can't control more than you can't contain yours indefinitely. "Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn"
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Karadion Kohlar
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.04.28 04:05:00 -
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Digital Messiah wrote:Karadion Kohlar wrote:Digital Messiah wrote:Karadion Kohlar wrote:Digital Messiah wrote:Yes I understand that you can easily return to your own space. But at some point sovereignty of that region has to be taken back. CFC and GSF are a strong alliance. But nothing in EVE has ever proven to be invincible. That implies we've lost the space and we have to take it back. I don't think you get how sov / siege mechanic works. Taken back was meant toward other alliances / corporations coming in to take that space from you. You see all sovereignty in EVE is held by an alliance but is owned by all the games players in reality. Though I would change my statement and opinion about this if GSF was capable of holding that region from today until the servers shut down. Oh please. Tell me who is this brave alliance / corporation that will do this? IT Alliance (BoB #23489072352934) tried this last year and failed horribly. Why? We **** caged EVERY POS that they had deployed in VFK. There's also the fact that we can easily deploy 900 consistently all day round to ensure that no enemy gains a foothold in VFK. It's a nice thought from pubbies like you but no one will do it. But I hardly ever hear of GSF taking other space. So surely if you can't control more than you can't contain yours indefinitely. http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/Verite/influence.png
Hi! You see that pink up there? Walked over it in little over a week.
Compare April 1st, 2012 http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/verite/20120401.png to April 9th, 2012 http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/verite/20120409.png |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
495
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Posted - 2012.04.28 04:08:00 -
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Can you beat a superrifter in POS shooting? Everyone knows we have a bunch of these "big ibises" about. I always did wonder about the relative POS shooting dps between caps and supercaps.
What's your favorite dreadnaught, by looks, the minmatar one? Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
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Karadion Kohlar
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.04.28 04:09:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Can you beat a superrifter in POS shooting? Everyone knows we have a bunch of these "big ibises" about. I always did wonder about the relative POS shooting dps between caps and supercaps. What's your favorite dreadnaught, by looks, the minmatar one? Phoenix everyday! |

bigbillthaboss3
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
7
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Posted - 2012.04.28 04:09:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:(not really, POS shooting is only liked by Dabigredboat.)
Fixed. |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1071
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Posted - 2012.04.28 04:13:00 -
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"Get in fleet for good fites"
30 mins later, shooting at a POS
"Goddamnit, DBRB." TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |

Karadion Kohlar
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.04.28 04:14:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:"Get in fleet for good fites"
30 mins later, shooting at a POS
"Goddamnit, DBRB." At least you have to hear DBRB. I don't because I have a good reason not to. :) |

Digital Messiah
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
202
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Posted - 2012.04.28 04:16:00 -
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Impressive, though like all giants, goons will fall some day as well. You see not all of your members are honest to god goons. Which isn't to say they are spies either. Eventually you will lose pilots, followed by your sov, and finally you will have to restart. Even if every single pilot in GSF was truly apart of your community. People even then choose to leave for varied reasons.
Anyways my point wasn't to sound like some self fulfilling prophecy about an EVE alliance. But I am saying you can't control that space forever. "Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn"
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Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
254
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Posted - 2012.04.28 04:23:00 -
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please go back to tending to your mining barge instead of speculating on nullsec sov warfare eh |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
496
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Posted - 2012.04.28 04:28:00 -
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Karadion Kohlar wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:"Get in fleet for good fites"
30 mins later, shooting at a POS
"Goddamnit, DBRB." At least you have to hear DBRB. I don't because I have a good reason not to. :) Just show up in fleet, please, I hear people like it <3 Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
496
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Posted - 2012.04.28 04:29:00 -
[38] - Quote
Digital Messiah wrote:Anyways my point wasn't to sound like some self fulfilling prophecy about an EVE alliance. But I am saying you can't control that space forever. Yes, we will probably fail in finite time with probability one.
(Defining EVE stopping as fail, otherwise there is a non-zero possibility we survive until then, given that it will occur in finite time with probability one.). Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |

Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
72
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Posted - 2012.04.28 04:51:00 -
[39] - Quote
Messoroz wrote:Digital Messiah wrote:Seems like this would be a good time to coordinate an attack on them. Seeing as to some extent their resources are split. Has to be a few fleet leaders etc not present. So what? Reinforcement timers gives them 2 days to just go back and pillage attackers.
Apparently theyre invulnerable so yeah go try it
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |

Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
72
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Posted - 2012.04.28 04:55:00 -
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Aina Sasaki wrote:I'm sure the idea of doing that has crossed someone's mind... and probably the goons as well. I'd suspect that they are quite prepared for the possibility that someone would try to hit them while this fun in Jita is going on.
lol after this post are 8 or 8 red bars Im assuming you stirred up the hive
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |
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Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
72
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Posted - 2012.04.28 04:59:00 -
[41] - Quote
too many quotes -.-
John Caffeine wrote: You are right though, there's no entity in the game right now that would even stand a chance at taking space off you, which is why no'one will try. It's the reason people group up in huge coaltions after all, safety in numbers and all that.
Its also whats wrong with this game right now.
/tinfoil wonder if T20 plays Goons now /tinfoil
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |

Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
1062
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Posted - 2012.04.28 05:03:00 -
[42] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:POS shooting is only liked by a few people
ahhh, people with an affinity for gouging out their own eyes with plastic sporks
The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
497
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Posted - 2012.04.28 05:08:00 -
[43] - Quote
Morganta wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:POS shooting is only liked by a few people ahhh, people with an affinity for gouging out their own eyes with plastic sporks Is that an actual quote? I don't remember typing that.
Heh, but POS and titan shooting are what dreads get used for the most. Well, it's a lot easier when you jump in, warp, siege and blast the thing to bits. (And usually Boat will not be your FC :) ) Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |

Sarah Schneider
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
55
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Posted - 2012.04.28 05:28:00 -
[44] - Quote
Digital Messiah wrote:Seems like this would be a good time to coordinate an attack on them. Seeing as to some extent their resources are split. Has to be a few fleet leaders etc not present.. You seems to have missed a few things here... like jumpclones perhaps? reinforce timers? defense from the other CFC alliances aside from the Goons themselves?
Akirei Scytale wrote:Oh, what I would give for butthurt highsec gankers to attack CFC space. +1.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
499
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Posted - 2012.04.28 05:55:00 -
[45] - Quote
Sarah Schneider wrote:Digital Messiah wrote:Seems like this would be a good time to coordinate an attack on them. Seeing as to some extent their resources are split. Has to be a few fleet leaders etc not present.. You seems to have missed a few things here... like jumpclones perhaps? reinforce timers? defense from the other CFC alliances aside from the Goons themselves? They think you're angry pets and will just watch. Or maybe help them?
Has "Lord Reid" tried contacting your diplomats recently?
Sarah Schneider wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Oh, what I would give for butthurt highsec gankers to attack CFC space. +1. Guys, there's bubbles here in null and we TOTALLY will pod you back to highsec, so as to save you the trip back. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |

Tobiaz
Spacerats
350
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Posted - 2012.04.28 09:08:00 -
[46] - Quote
Digital Messiah wrote:Seems like this would be a good time to coordinate an attack on them. Seeing as to some extent their resources are split. Has to be a few fleet leaders etc not present.
In this time of jump bridges, titan bridges, jump clones and jump freighters there is hardly a thing called 'resources are split' . Especially since they all cost next to nothing to use it, allowing easy and cheap insta-travel even at individual level. Operation WRITE DOWN ALL THE THINGS!!!-á Check out the list at http://bit.ly/wdatt
Collecting and compiling all fixes and ideas for EVE. Looking for more editors! |

Boomhaur
25
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Posted - 2012.04.28 09:28:00 -
[47] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Sarah Schneider wrote:Digital Messiah wrote:Seems like this would be a good time to coordinate an attack on them. Seeing as to some extent their resources are split. Has to be a few fleet leaders etc not present.. You seems to have missed a few things here... like jumpclones perhaps? reinforce timers? defense from the other CFC alliances aside from the Goons themselves? They think you're angry pets and will just watch. Or maybe help them? Has "Lord Reid" tried contacting your diplomats recently? Sarah Schneider wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Oh, what I would give for butthurt highsec gankers to attack CFC space. +1. Guys, there's bubbles here in null and we TOTALLY will pod you back to highsec, so as to save you the trip back.
How kind of you to pod us back to hi sec that saves us quite a few jumps. But if don't mind I'd rather stay in hi sec you guys are profitable and good for business.
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Digital Messiah
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
202
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Posted - 2012.04.28 19:53:00 -
[48] - Quote
Tobiaz wrote:Digital Messiah wrote:Seems like this would be a good time to coordinate an attack on them. Seeing as to some extent their resources are split. Has to be a few fleet leaders etc not present. In this time of jump bridges, titan bridges, jump clones and jump freighters there is hardly a thing called 'resources are split' . Especially since they all cost next to nothing to use it, allowing easy and cheap insta-travel even at individual level. Probably the biggest problem atm. Seeing as mobility is a huge balancing factor in EVE. "Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn"
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Darth Tickles
Dark Sun Consortium
256
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Posted - 2012.04.28 20:33:00 -
[49] - Quote
Digital Messiah wrote:Probably the biggest problem atm. Seeing as mobility is a huge balancing factor in EVE.
It is a serious problem. You want people to get at each other to create fights, but you also want abandoning your home to come at some kind of cost. Unfortunately there are even wrose problems with easier fixes right now, so I'm sure "power projection" is at the absolute bottom of the pile.
Such is life...
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Vyl Vit
Cambio Enterprises
422
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Posted - 2012.04.28 20:48:00 -
[50] - Quote
Goon space was infested with a swarm of space lice. That's why they went to Jita, and no one wants to go out there. Anyone with any sense has already left town. |
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
515
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Posted - 2012.04.28 20:50:00 -
[51] - Quote
Darth Tickles wrote:Digital Messiah wrote:Probably the biggest problem atm. Seeing as mobility is a huge balancing factor in EVE. It is a serious problem. You want people to get at each other to create fights, but you also want abandoning your home to come at some kind of cost. Unfortunately there are even wrose problems with easier fixes right now, so I'm sure "power projection" is at the absolute bottom of the pile. Such is life... Guys, if you attack Dek, you'll be leaving Jita open to the horrendous attentions of Thrashers and Tornados.
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |

Bane Necran
386
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Posted - 2012.04.28 20:58:00 -
[52] - Quote
I'm still in VFK, but i haven't had much time to play this weekend. That brittle rage, the bitter rubble, take your time and bring the trouble. |

Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
74
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Posted - 2012.04.28 20:59:00 -
[53] - Quote
lol I can only see 7 posts on the first page
Boomhaur wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote: Guys, there's bubbles here in null and we TOTALLY will pod you back to highsec, so as to save you the trip back.
How kind of you to pod us back to hi sec that saves us quite a few jumps. But if don't mind I'd rather stay in hi sec you guys are profitable and good for business.
I love it whe guys pod me back to highsec. Thats a long trip
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |

Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
74
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Posted - 2012.04.28 21:01:00 -
[54] - Quote
Tobiaz wrote:Digital Messiah wrote:Seems like this would be a good time to coordinate an attack on them. Seeing as to some extent their resources are split. Has to be a few fleet leaders etc not present. In this time of jump bridges, titan bridges, jump clones and jump freighters there is hardly a thing called 'resources are split' . Especially since they all cost next to nothing to use it, allowing easy and cheap insta-travel even at individual level.
Pretty much this. There really is NO WAY to split your forces anymore
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |

JitaPriceChecker2
State War Academy Caldari State
106
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Posted - 2012.04.28 21:14:00 -
[55] - Quote
no one is doing that because of force projection.
Goons can be back home within 24 hours(if not sooner) and be ready to fight.
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Whambot
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
32
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Posted - 2012.04.28 21:28:00 -
[56] - Quote
I like how there are 3 pages of the same reply.
**** YOU HATERS I'm with the OP lets go right now I just need to fit some guns on my badger mark II they'll never see it coming 
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Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
74
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Posted - 2012.04.28 23:17:00 -
[57] - Quote
Whambot wrote:I like how there are 3 pages of the same reply. **** YOU HATERS I'm with the OP lets go right now I just need to fit some guns on my badger mark II they'll never see it coming 
Fill it with antimatter and aim it at the biggest Goon base
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
517
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Posted - 2012.04.29 00:10:00 -
[58] - Quote
JitaPriceChecker2 wrote:no one is doing that because of force projection.
Goons can be back home within 24 hours(if not sooner) and be ready to fight. You're giving the game away, JitaPriceChecker2 Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |

Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
74
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Posted - 2012.04.29 01:53:00 -
[59] - Quote
JitaPriceChecker2 wrote:no one is doing that because of force projection.
Goons can be back home within 24 hours(if not sooner) and be ready to fight.
And they own half the galaxy... From Gentleman's Agreement to TEST. Not hard to tell given than when Goons go to war they ALL go to war too
reminds me of BoB actually.
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |

Digital Messiah
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
203
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Posted - 2012.04.29 01:54:00 -
[60] - Quote
Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:JitaPriceChecker2 wrote:no one is doing that because of force projection.
Goons can be back home within 24 hours(if not sooner) and be ready to fight.
And they own half the galaxy... From Gentleman's Agreement to TEST. Not hard to tell given than when Goons go to war they ALL go to war too reminds me of BoB actually.
It would be cool to see them go after all of null sec. That would make some history. "Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn"
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Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
74
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Posted - 2012.04.29 01:57:00 -
[61] - Quote
Digital Messiah wrote:Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:JitaPriceChecker2 wrote:no one is doing that because of force projection.
Goons can be back home within 24 hours(if not sooner) and be ready to fight.
And they own half the galaxy... From Gentleman's Agreement to TEST. Not hard to tell given than when Goons go to war they ALL go to war too reminds me of BoB actually. It would be cool to see them go after all of null sec. That would make some history.
So far as Ive heard thats what theyre doing (what I heard tho was take over all of 0.0 then quit the game) plus thats what the OPEC thing IS
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |

Digital Messiah
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
203
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Posted - 2012.04.29 02:12:00 -
[62] - Quote
Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:Digital Messiah wrote:Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:JitaPriceChecker2 wrote:no one is doing that because of force projection.
Goons can be back home within 24 hours(if not sooner) and be ready to fight.
And they own half the galaxy... From Gentleman's Agreement to TEST. Not hard to tell given than when Goons go to war they ALL go to war too reminds me of BoB actually. It would be cool to see them go after all of null sec. That would make some history. So far as Ive heard thats what theyre doing (what I heard tho was take over all of 0.0 then quit the game) plus thats what the OPEC thing IS
That would make them quite rich in the process. But it would be hard to pull off. I think they should try to kill their pets first. "Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn"
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Mithrantir Ob'lontra
Ixion Defence Systems Tactical Narcotics Team
5
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Posted - 2012.04.29 02:15:00 -
[63] - Quote
Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:JitaPriceChecker2 wrote:no one is doing that because of force projection.
Goons can be back home within 24 hours(if not sooner) and be ready to fight.
And they own half the galaxy... From Gentleman's Agreement to TEST. Not hard to tell given than when Goons go to war they ALL go to war too reminds me of BoB actually. Where WAS BoB's owned space? I doubt it reminds you of anything since you can't do the math and see that CFC is occupying at most 1/3 (and less basically) of 0.0 space.
-A-, Solar Fleet, IRC, NC, Red Alliance, Nulli secunda, Vera Cruz are some of the alliances that hold a lot of space and are not in any way of form blue to CFC.
As for BoB's space look it up at Delve, Querious and Period Basis. |

Karadion Kohlar
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
12
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Posted - 2012.04.29 02:20:00 -
[64] - Quote
Digital Messiah wrote:Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:Digital Messiah wrote:Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:JitaPriceChecker2 wrote:no one is doing that because of force projection.
Goons can be back home within 24 hours(if not sooner) and be ready to fight.
And they own half the galaxy... From Gentleman's Agreement to TEST. Not hard to tell given than when Goons go to war they ALL go to war too reminds me of BoB actually. It would be cool to see them go after all of null sec. That would make some history. So far as Ive heard thats what theyre doing (what I heard tho was take over all of 0.0 then quit the game) plus thats what the OPEC thing IS That would make them quite rich in the process. But it would be hard to pull off. I think they should try to kill their pets first. Who are these pets? |

Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
735
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Posted - 2012.04.29 02:28:00 -
[65] - Quote
hey remember when all these timers were meant to give small alliances a fighting chance? |

Darth Tickles
Dark Sun Consortium
257
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Posted - 2012.04.29 02:29:00 -
[66] - Quote
Hisec forum warriors talking about nullsec politics
dohohohohohoho
stick to crying about incursion nerfs |

Aiwha
101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda
325
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Posted - 2012.04.29 02:34:00 -
[67] - Quote
Confirming that we are in fact starting a space crusade to stop Goons. Please fly into delve with freighters full of equipment. #spacecrusade #totallynotatrap Regards,
LCpl. Aiwha-á Senior Recruiter |

DF3CT
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.04.29 03:41:00 -
[68] - Quote
John Caffeine wrote:Karadion Kohlar wrote:Digital Messiah wrote:Karadion Kohlar wrote:Digital Messiah wrote:Yes I understand that you can easily return to your own space. But at some point sovereignty of that region has to be taken back. CFC and GSF are a strong alliance. But nothing in EVE has ever proven to be invincible. That implies we've lost the space and we have to take it back. I don't think you get how sov / siege mechanic works. Taken back was meant toward other alliances / corporations coming in to take that space from you. You see all sovereignty in EVE is held by an alliance but is owned by all the games players in reality. Though I would change my statement and opinion about this if GSF was capable of holding that region from today until the servers shut down. Oh please. Tell me who is this brave alliance / corporation that will do this? IT Alliance (BoB #23489072352934) tried this last year and failed horribly. Why? We **** caged EVERY POS that they had deployed in VFK. There's also the fact that we can easily deploy 900 consistently all day round to ensure that no enemy gains a foothold in VFK. It's a nice thought from pubbies like you but no one will do it. When did IT try to headshot VFK? One year ago they had already lost all space and collapsed. During MAX 2.0 they never went for VFK; and GSF wasn't really a major player yet. I can't remember any other attempts from IT so I'm going to assume you meant PL. You are right though, there's no entity in the game right now that would even stand a chance at taking space off you, which is why no'one will try. It's the reason people group up in huge coaltions after all, safety in numbers and all that.
I always thought people grouped in large corps because they are bitches and need someone to think for them, cruising in large blobs.
*shrugs* |

Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
74
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Posted - 2012.04.29 06:07:00 -
[69] - Quote
Mithrantir Ob'lontra wrote:Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote: And they own half the galaxy... From Gentleman's Agreement to TEST. Not hard to tell given than when Goons go to war they ALL go to war too
reminds me of BoB actually.
Where WAS BoB's owned space?
blah
http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/Verite/influence.png
was what I was going off of so yeah just the north half then?
Darth Tickles wrote:Hisec forum warriors talking about nullsec politics
dohohohohohoho
stick to crying about incursion nerfs
nah Id perfer to click "hide post" makes it easier to read the forums
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:hey remember when all these timers were meant to give small alliances a fighting chance?
what they werent meant to make large ones invulnerable? I thought that was the point... Like the new population based wardec cost
DF3CT wrote:
I always thought people grouped in large corps because they are bitches and need someone to think for them, cruising in large blobs.
*shrugs*
Hows that make them different from anyone else? Running out solo isnt "courageous" nor does it show independent thought. It shows suicidal stupidity lol
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
520
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Posted - 2012.04.29 08:44:00 -
[70] - Quote
DF3CT wrote:I always thought people grouped in large corps because they are bitches and need someone to think for them, cruising in large blobs.
*shrugs* Yeah. Sure.
Now, those highsec mining groups, now there's a thinking man's game. Or the ~elite pvp~ which cruises in small blobs of only 50 titans. They're superior, it's just that blobbing is too dishonorable and has no place in actual fighting.
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
520
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Posted - 2012.04.29 08:45:00 -
[71] - Quote
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:hey remember when all these timers were meant to give small alliances a fighting chance? It still does. No one at all can kill them faster than their timers allow.
We could remove them, then they'd just die pretty much instantly when the titans jump in. I mean, that;s sort of cruel but hey, what would anyone but you know about shooting structures. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
520
|
Posted - 2012.04.29 08:48:00 -
[72] - Quote
Digital Messiah wrote:It would be cool to see them go after all of null sec. That would make some history. Maybe it would.
But we're failing to even shoot highsec pubbies, remember? It'll take a long time to regroup after this devastating defeat. Hey, would you like to buy some space in Dek? You might find a lease from White Noise. attractive. Uh, wait a second -
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |

Iamien
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
193
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Posted - 2012.07.10 17:05:00 -
[73] - Quote
I'm in an alt shooting their carebears right now. |

Lucy Ferrr
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
148
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Posted - 2012.07.10 17:12:00 -
[74] - Quote
Iamien wrote:I'm in an alt shooting their carebears right now.
You smell that forum ban coming? I sure can. |

Pipa Porto
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
352
|
Posted - 2012.07.10 17:15:00 -
[75] - Quote
@OP
I think you should hit up Mine Lady, she promised a Headshot on the Goons a little while back.
(I should go dig that thread up...) -RubyPorto
IB4TS |

Andoria Thara
Fallen Avatars
82
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Posted - 2012.07.10 17:17:00 -
[76] - Quote
Iamien wrote:I'm in an alt shooting their carebears right now.
*looks at OP date *looks for lamien necro post
yep, yet another one |

Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
529
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Posted - 2012.07.10 17:28:00 -
[77] - Quote
Pipa Porto wrote:@OP
I think you should hit up Mine Lady, she promised a Headshot on the Goons a little while back.
(I should go dig that thread up...)
Gonna necro a thread for a necro thread eh. |

Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1630
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Posted - 2012.07.10 17:30:00 -
[78] - Quote
I'm tired of these monkeyfighting necros on my monday to friday GD. |

Pipa Porto
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
352
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Posted - 2012.07.10 17:37:00 -
[79] - Quote
Micheal Dietrich wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:@OP
I think you should hit up Mine Lady, she promised a Headshot on the Goons a little while back.
(I should go dig that thread up...) Gonna necro a thread for a necro thread eh.
Didn't realize that this was a Necro, and Mine Lady's thread is funny. -RubyPorto
IB4TS |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1163
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Posted - 2012.07.10 18:19:00 -
[80] - Quote
It's pretty relevant, a bunch of people said they'd burn our home while Delve was turning into ash.
I... guess it didn't happen. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
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Dominee Dominee
Republic University Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.07.10 20:33:00 -
[81] - Quote
Aiwha wrote:Confirming that we are in fact starting a space crusade to stop Goons. Please fly into delve with freighters full of equipment. #spacecrusade #totallynotatrap
Well you got more than just Freighters
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Lady Katherine Devonshire
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
12
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Posted - 2012.07.10 21:39:00 -
[82] - Quote
If people were serious about this (and they obviously are not) they wouldn't be looking at some high value Goon fortress that is buried in a combat-bot blob shield 23/7. They'd be looking for something smaller, more out of the way, less defended... you know, something that they might actually have a chance of effectively hitting and getting away with?
You can't "headshot" a group that large or powerful. What you can do is try to mount a guerrilla warfare operation, because that's effectively what you'll become when you begin your campaign. From that perspective, yes you can do some damage, though it would not be obvious at first. The damage such a guerrilla war could inflict would be far more subtle, yet also far more enduring, than throwing away fleets trying to raid an invulnerable target system.
"If you could make God bleed, people would cease to believe in him, there will be blood in the water, the sharks will come."
Not that I see any of this happening any time soon, of course. |

Darth Tickles
Dark Sun Consortium
650
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Posted - 2012.07.10 21:46:00 -
[83] - Quote
Lady Katherine Devonshire wrote:combat-bot blob
hahahaha
how do people come up with this ****?
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Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1314
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Posted - 2012.07.10 22:02:00 -
[84] - Quote
Darth Tickles wrote:Lady Katherine Devonshire wrote:combat-bot blob hahahaha how do people come up with this ****?
amazing a rogue goon |

Jimmy Gunsmythe
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
69
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Posted - 2012.07.10 22:17:00 -
[85] - Quote
I'm thinking mean thoughts about Goon space, even as I work! Sometimes I amaze even myself.  A good predator knows how to live in balance with his prey, lest he follow them into oblivion. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1173
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Posted - 2012.07.11 00:31:00 -
[86] - Quote
Richard Desturned wrote:Darth Tickles wrote:Lady Katherine Devonshire wrote:combat-bot blob hahahaha how do people come up with this ****? amazing Boat would disapprove. Sure, he'd fill his fleets, but he does so already. More importantly though...
bots don't care about his stories. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

InternetSpaceship
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
136
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Posted - 2012.07.11 00:54:00 -
[87] - Quote
Karadion Kohlar wrote:Digital Messiah wrote:Karadion Kohlar wrote:Digital Messiah wrote:Yes I understand that you can easily return to your own space. But at some point sovereignty of that region has to be taken back. CFC and GSF are a strong alliance. But nothing in EVE has ever proven to be invincible. That implies we've lost the space and we have to take it back. I don't think you get how sov / siege mechanic works. Taken back was meant toward other alliances / corporations coming in to take that space from you. You see all sovereignty in EVE is held by an alliance but is owned by all the games players in reality. Though I would change my statement and opinion about this if GSF was capable of holding that region from today until the servers shut down. Oh please. Tell me who is this brave alliance / corporation that will do this? IT Alliance (BoB #23489072352934) tried this last year and failed horribly. Why? We **** caged EVERY POS that they had deployed in VFK. There's also the fact that we can easily deploy 900 consistently all day round to ensure that no enemy gains a foothold in VFK. It's a nice thought from pubbies like you but no one will do it.
Oh, you just don't know how close we came to utter annihilation.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=119945
Last time she cancelled the attack was only because it turns out that to coordinate a giant fleet, there are logistical concerns that she didn't anticipate. Now for some reason, she's having to re-amass that gigantic game shattering force of hers, but when she does, rest assured, we will cry and beg for mercy (or stop playing or whatever).
Hey, why don't all you pubbies join up with Mine Lady? Official Recruiter for GoonSwarm Corporation.
If you paid isk to get into GoonSwarm, you were probably scammed.-á If you had the foresight to save the name of your scammer, let me know and I'll do what I can to help you. |

Sam Ruger
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2012.07.11 01:31:00 -
[88] - Quote
The problem with goonspace is that its full of goons. |

No More Heroes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
881
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Posted - 2012.07.11 02:36:00 -
[89] - Quote
Sam Ruger wrote:The problem with goonspace is that its full of goons.
Snot Shot moved from EC-P8R to VFK haha  . |
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