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Yonos
Isotope Incorporated Dead Mans Hand
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Posted - 2009.03.13 20:57:00 -
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I have found many sigs already, but I can't get one atm.
It's less than 1% strength with 4au probes. I have gotten it to .25 au but I cannot get the sig higher than 11%
I have a fully maxed cov ops pilot with impants etc. WTF? any strategies ppl?
I tried moving the probes closer, farther, a combo and no luck.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.03.13 21:02:00 -
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Tried piling up more probes ?
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Yonos
Isotope Incorporated Dead Mans Hand
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Posted - 2009.03.13 21:03:00 -
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Edited by: Yonos on 13/03/2009 21:05:38 Yes, I have tried 8x .25 au probes on it. I overlapped the edges of the spheres onto the sig.
Also tried piling them all on the center of the sig, didnt work either.
I don't think anything above 4 probes does anything to increase the scan strength. Limit is 4 for any relevance.
.............wtf
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.03.13 21:06:00 -
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Are you sure all of them overlap the sig ? The interface is confusing enough that you might not see its 3D location properly, and have some of the probes just short of detecting it...
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Yonos
Isotope Incorporated Dead Mans Hand
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Posted - 2009.03.13 21:09:00 -
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Yes I am sure, like I said I've done plenty of these now. This is the first really challenging one I've gotten.
Moving the .25 probes around the red signal dot increases and decreases the sig strength a bit, gonna jiggle it around a bit.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.03.13 21:15:00 -
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You do know what this means, don't you ? Go through it, insta-death  That, or a bugged site they forgot to adjust the signal strength for. _ Create a character || Fit a ship || Get some ISK |

Brian Kith
Elite Underworld Special Forces OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2009.03.13 21:43:00 -
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Which Implants? How is your AT? Rigs?
There are a TON of good threads on probing in the Missions forum, and I can practically guarantee you are doing something wrong. There is absolutely no way to get a signal strength of less than 1% on a 4AU probe - even with CovOps I.
Do this:
Find the sig on long range. Highlight it so the target sphere comes up. Launch a probe at it. ONE probe! One probe only! Completely contain the target sphere in your probe. Scan. What is your SS?
Given this SS, you can figure out whether you can actually get a warpable point with your skills.
You really need to aquire, read and understand the Maximum Target Strength worksheet. It helped me get a much better handle on things. There is a link to it in one of the threads in Missions.
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Verite Rendition
Caldari F.R.E.E. Explorer Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.03.13 23:15:00 -
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I've seen the same site, and I have max skills + implants. It won't go to even 25% on .25 AU probes, I think it's safe to say that it has a bugged base signature. ---- FREE Explorer Lead Megalomanic EVE Null-Sec Player Influence Map http://dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/Veritefw/FWinf |

Anopheli
Pillowsoft
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Posted - 2009.03.15 07:33:00 -
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These signals have popped up in a couple threads on various sites, and no one quite seems to know what to make of them yet.
Basically, what happens is that you end up with an -extremely- weak signal of no definite type. They usually show up at about 5% strength using 0.25 AU Core probes, depending on implants. By stacking more probes and fidgeting with the orientation, they've been pushed up as high as the double digit percentages.
What are they? No freaking idea. Theories ranged between bugs, items responsible for creating local spatial conditions, to some ultra-secret earthshattering content that the Devs have implanted to reward whoever accesses one with untold riches.
Regardless, when a character packing maxed scanning strength stats via PPH implants, CovOps skills and the like cannot bring a signal into the mid-teens, a character packing 3 billion in Vigil implants, and a full Sister's loadout won't be able to push them all that much higher. There's only so many ways to increase that signal, and the math only allows it to be pushed so far - unless there's some items and means that hasn't been found yet.
So either they're not suppose to be there, not supposed to be so weak, or we're not supposed to be seeing them (yet). |

Clansworth
Blackwater USA Inc.
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Posted - 2009.03.15 09:20:00 -
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Originally by: Anopheli These signals have popped up in a couple threads on various sites, and no one quite seems to know what to make of them yet.
Basically, what happens is that you end up with an -extremely- weak signal of no definite type. They usually show up at about 5% strength using 0.25 AU Core probes, depending on implants. By stacking more probes and fidgeting with the orientation, they've been pushed up as high as the double digit percentages.
What are they? No freaking idea. Theories ranged between bugs, items responsible for creating local spatial conditions, to some ultra-secret earthshattering content that the Devs have implanted to reward whoever accesses one with untold riches.
Regardless, when a character packing maxed scanning strength stats via PPH implants, CovOps skills and the like cannot bring a signal into the mid-teens, a character packing 3 billion in Vigil implants, and a full Sister's loadout won't be able to push them all that much higher. There's only so many ways to increase that signal, and the math only allows it to be pushed so far - unless there's some items and means that hasn't been found yet.
So either they're not suppose to be there, not supposed to be so weak, or we're not supposed to be seeing them (yet).
Personally, i like that there are 'blips' on the scanner that are effectively just that. Makes it more intersting.. i like the idea of possibly chasing ghosts.. keeps the system from becoming too easy. ;-)
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Solar Ray
Vanishing Point
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Posted - 2009.03.15 09:24:00 -
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Got similar site today. It's a Radar and won't go above 65%. Tried some 8 shortest range probes on it, cant drive the signal up. I suppose some rigs and implants would help, but in your case it seems like an unbalanced site. Chances are they'll fix it next patch.
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Fulbert
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.03.15 11:15:00 -
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Use at least 5 probes to cover the signature sphere/circle/point. ____________________________________ Fulbert Peon |

Kylar Renpurs
Dusk Blade
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Posted - 2009.03.15 11:54:00 -
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Edited by: Kylar Renpurs on 15/03/2009 11:54:31 99% of the time it's probe positioning tbh.
I've found every sig I've tried for with just 4 probes. Pyramids FTW.
Although I will accept I see some strange things.
One was seeing a red ring as a result, but my scanner showed a 100% reading.
Another was I took a 4au scan and got a *tiny* red ring with 45% accuracy, talking probably 100k in diameter. I jumped down to .25 au and coated the entire area with overlap with all 4 probes and got "No results".
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foobarx
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Posted - 2009.03.15 13:15:00 -
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Originally by: Kylar Renpurs
One was seeing a red ring as a result, but my scanner showed a 100% reading.
You can get 100% without getting a point or a ring. It doesn't mean the signal is triangulated.
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Another was I took a 4au scan and got a *tiny* red ring with 45% accuracy, talking probably 100k in diameter. I jumped down to .25 au and coated the entire area with overlap with all 4 probes and got "No results".
Right. A 45% accuracy at 4AU translates to a huge error at .25 AU. I'd be shocked if you hit it after skipping that many resolutions.
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Azmira
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Posted - 2009.03.15 20:31:00 -
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I have had exactly the same problem, wouldn't go above 11% with .25 AU probes. Definitely a bug, took a screenshot, posting a bug report now.
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Hersheff
NTeK Industries
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Posted - 2009.03.15 21:19:00 -
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yea... got some of those too, had 60% or so with 7 0.25 probes on it...
Anyone got one of those were you get to 100% and you still cant warp to it?
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Kylar Renpurs
Dusk Blade
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Posted - 2009.03.15 21:20:00 -
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Originally by: foobarx
Originally by: Kylar Renpurs
One was seeing a red ring as a result, but my scanner showed a 100% reading.
You can get 100% without getting a point or a ring. It doesn't mean the signal is triangulated.
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Another was I took a 4au scan and got a *tiny* red ring with 45% accuracy, talking probably 100k in diameter. I jumped down to .25 au and coated the entire area with overlap with all 4 probes and got "No results".
Right. A 45% accuracy at 4AU translates to a huge error at .25 AU. I'd be shocked if you hit it after skipping that many resolutions.
Eh, yeah. Maths.
My bad.
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