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Madcat Adams
Amarr
Romulan Technologies Limited
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Posted - 2009.03.14 00:11:00 -
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As the title says. I'm considering picking up a freighter, but am uncertain if the thing won't turn into a money pit. How hard is it to come by jobs? Are the courier contracts a reliable way to earn income between jobs?
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Evthron Macyntire
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Posted - 2009.03.14 00:19:00 -
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I made a lot of money as a reseller with my badger II, I assumed a larger cargo hold would bring me even more riches. I was wrong. Don't waste your time with a freighter unless you have a strong corp/alliance to babysit you through lowsec jumps. Or you manage to land some nice POS refueling contracts.
My freighter collects dust until my mission runner needs it's loot to be reprocessed, or my corp needs ships/ice moved around.
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Dasfry
Caldari
Demio's Corporation
101010 Alliance
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Posted - 2009.03.14 01:30:00 -
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 Originally by: Madcat Adams
As the title says. I'm considering picking up a freighter, but am uncertain if the thing won't turn into a money pit. How hard is it to come by jobs? Are the courier contracts a reliable way to earn income between jobs?
Yes you can, but its tuff and time consuming.
You not only have to do research in what your shipping.
Your timing has to be good as well, be able to get there before the competition does.
You have to have the patience to use the damn thing, because aligning to a warp gate is SLOW as hell.
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Dasfry, Director
Demio's Corporation
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Clair Bear
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.03.14 02:54:00 -
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I'd probably make 2B less a month if I didn't have use of a freighter once a week.
Working for others? Just like in the RL, not profitable. Working for yourself? Depends.
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Kwint Sommer
Caldari
XERCORE
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Posted - 2009.03.14 07:12:00 -
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A freighter is a tool, it can be an integral part of your business but renting it out (which is essentially what you're doing) is a trivially profitable enterprise.
It's a lot like owning a hammer. That hammer may be crucial to your very lucrative business but you if all you try to do is rent that hammer out to people you'll be making pennies.
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Dennmoth Ferdier
CINDER INDUSTRIALS
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Posted - 2009.03.14 11:09:00 -
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You buy a freighter when you see you need one to make money.
You don't buy a freighter and then look ways to make money with it.
Freighter is not a money factory, the money factory is elsewhere and the freighter is only the means.
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flakeys
Tier 3 Technologies Inc
Lazy is our middle name
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Posted - 2009.03.14 11:19:00 -
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Originally by: Dennmoth Ferdier
You buy a freighter when you see you need one to make money.
You don't buy a freighter and then look ways to make money with it.
Freighter is not a money factory, the money factory is elsewhere and the freighter is only the means.
Yet if you check posts here regularly you'll see most people appearanty do it the other way around.Don't ask me why though 
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eVaLF
Delivery Luck
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Posted - 2009.03.14 13:11:00 -
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If you can do so without using your main account so you can run your freighter afk consistantly, its not a bad living, if your using your main and plan on staring at the screen the entire trip, it can be a very boring life.
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Kaurapa
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Posted - 2009.03.14 18:48:00 -
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If you handle large volumes of material/goods yourself then a frieghter is awesome.
Trying to shift 200+ Destroyers/Frigates/Cruisers to a market hub without a freighter is enough to make grown men cry
If you wanna shift other peoples volumes rememeber you will simply be a man in the middle and profit margins will be squeezed (and your use will squeeze the produceers margins as well)
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Madcat Adams
Amarr
Romulan Technologies Limited
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Posted - 2009.03.14 19:12:00 -
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Thanks for all the input. I believe, after considering what's been said. That a freighter just wouldn't be productive for me at this time. Shame, the ideal of being a space trucker has it's allure. But I've simply not got a large enough operation to ustalize the thing. 
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Ike Solomon
Obvious Front Trading Corporation
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Posted - 2009.03.18 20:09:00 -
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I am in the exact same situation. I could get a freighter, But I am not sure it is worth the investment.
I think not being sure about it, is the best reason to NOT get one.
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Tor WarGallow
Caldari
Darklight Industries
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Posted - 2009.03.18 21:29:00 -
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Happiest moment of my freighter career, the day a corp mate could fly the damn thing.
--One man gathers what another man spills--
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Blue Dice
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.03.19 10:32:00 -
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Originally by: Ike Solomon
I think not being sure about it, is the best reason to NOT get one.
Spot on!
If you dont have a need somewhere for personal use, like regularly transporting 80mil tritanium to your production hub, then dont get one.
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Nienna Fael
Sininen Talo
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Posted - 2009.03.19 12:47:00 -
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First think through your business plan.
Are you planning on hauling massive amounts of stuff several jumps regularly?
Aka, are you building something large like battleships, capital modules etc.
Are you planning on hauling mining op produce around?
Can your goal be accomplished on a smaller vessel like The Orca or a cargo rigged transport?
Are you willing to set up courier service for moving other people's stuff, AND have a way to get contracts that have good enough profits for you to bother?
Are you planning on large cross regional trading?
These are but a few example questions you could think through before investing on a freighter.
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Khwalik
Ghetto Kings
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Posted - 2009.03.19 13:10:00 -
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One option I ended up going with was building my hauler alts freighter. I already mine alot and even with having to invest in cap component BPC's I figure I saved some of the cost from just shelling out and buying a freighter, course there is the time involved in mining the minerals building the components etc, but I figure I saved a little isk,not alot...but it all adds up. I'd probably gotten a freighter for the alt had the orca not come out when it did. Most of what I do iteron 5 and/or orca can handle. Freighter is more or less used as an ore/ice bucket.
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Misty Meanors
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Posted - 2009.03.23 05:48:00 -
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As someone said earlier, you buy a freighter when you need one to continue what you are doing not to buy one then wonder what the hell to do with it.
Also, if you have never flown a Freighter, they are incredibly slow to align, get to warp and then their warp speed is slow - therefore they take about 5 minutes to do 1 system (Well Oipo at any rate)
You could possible use them to move POS fuel around, or large amounts of minerals but the costs you need to actually buy this stuff up front is vast
If you set up a Iteron V with Cargo Expanders and Cargohold Optimisation Rigs you can get about 38,500m which should be a good start.
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threeDspider
Caldari
Caldari and United Breweries
The Firm.
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Posted - 2009.03.23 07:47:00 -
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Originally by: flakeys
Originally by: Dennmoth Ferdier
You buy a freighter when you see you need one to make money.
You don't buy a freighter and then look ways to make money with it.
Freighter is not a money factory, the money factory is elsewhere and the freighter is only the means.
Yet if you check posts here regularly you'll see most people appearanty do it the other way around.Don't ask me why though
I honestly only built a Providence because i saw one floating outside of 4-4 one day and thought, 'ooh, shiny, i want one'. But you do speak truth, it mostly gathers dust now  I am determined to find a use for it though.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.03.23 13:29:00 -
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Quote:
You buy a freighter when you see you need one to make money.
You don't buy a freighter and then look ways to make money with it.
Freighter is not a money factory, the money factory is elsewhere and the freighter is only the means
Quoted for truth.
There are also more elaborate cases, where a freigther can let you *lose* less money than not having it.
Example: I have a sweet mining spot with "unmolested" whole belts. I also have a fixed buyer 23 jumps away and they want hundreds of millions units.
With indys, it's a total pain to carry the stuff over there, even if I can use 3 characters at a time with them.
Not counting how they must pass thru some popular hubs where they are scanned and eventually suicide ganked (a freigther is much more impervious to it, *in high sec*).
Finally, there are times I need to relocate whole, multiple ships around
my bases and again it's lots of jumps with slow-as-hell ships.
A freigther would let all those accounts keep mining, would let me keep my sanity (!), would protect the stuff better and would also be able to accept the freight contracts sometimes I get and cannot accept.
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Ms Delerium
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Posted - 2009.03.23 14:05:00 -
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Remember you dont want to fly a freighter during a war...
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Tasko Pal
THE IRIS
United Freemen Alliance
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Posted - 2009.03.24 04:42:00 -
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Originally by: Tor WarGallow
Happiest moment of my freighter career, the day a corp mate could fly the damn thing.
This. I think having a freighter alt haul in the background is ok too. But definitely it is better to have someone else do the hauling.
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