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TPS LEADER
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Posted - 2004.08.16 14:11:00 -
[91]
In response to your enquiry of our affairs.
TPS do not engage in political relationships with other entities within the EVE universe, as such, have no offical agreements or ties with anyone.
We reserve the right to keep our affairs, exactly that.
TPS LEADER, its all in the name |
TPS LEADER
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Posted - 2004.08.16 14:11:00 -
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In response to your enquiry of our affairs.
TPS do not engage in political relationships with other entities within the EVE universe, as such, have no offical agreements or ties with anyone.
We reserve the right to keep our affairs, exactly that.
TPS LEADER, its all in the name |
Diemos
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Posted - 2004.08.16 14:12:00 -
[93]
 Originally by: Jade Constantine
I asked how we should name the silent NAP/Military alliance between PA and TPS. Given that both entities are alliances in their own right, this arrangement between them needs to have a name.
And why should it have a name?
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Diemos
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Posted - 2004.08.16 14:12:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Jade Constantine
I asked how we should name the silent NAP/Military alliance between PA and TPS. Given that both entities are alliances in their own right, this arrangement between them needs to have a name.
And why should it have a name?
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BEAutiful
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Posted - 2004.08.16 14:14:00 -
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its best for celes to stay out.
even if PA have allied themselves with TPS it shouldnt mean celes to fight them because NCA r with other known pirates.
its exactly the same.
if u join 1 side u will be seen by neutrals and the other side as traitors..and other words come to mind :P
stay out of it i would. |
BEAutiful
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Posted - 2004.08.16 14:14:00 -
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its best for celes to stay out.
even if PA have allied themselves with TPS it shouldnt mean celes to fight them because NCA r with other known pirates.
its exactly the same.
if u join 1 side u will be seen by neutrals and the other side as traitors..and other words come to mind :P
stay out of it i would. |
Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.08.16 14:14:00 -
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DedGuy,
The truth of the matter is that everyone knew that TPS was aiding the PA by keeping Unicor out of the northern war. That was hardly a secret. But what exactly was the alternative? PA needed fighting in the northern regions and TPS took advantage of the Unicor isolation in Geminate to hit you chaps hard. Its not like a decision was ever taken "not to aid you" its simply that the main NCA was (and still is) fully committed in the war against PA.
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But what...really irritates me, is that the Unicor/TPS war went on for near 2 months, and we pulled out of Vale/Geminate almost 3 weeks ago....... and Jade feels that this topic has to be brought up NOW?
Speak to me directly on subspace comms and I will tell you exactly why this matter can be brought up now. I don't feel its right to make these things fully public though (at least until I have consulted with the Unicor leaders).
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When TPS start looking north, Jade? When the Unicor "buffer" has gone?
Feeling backstabbed, here.
You are very wrong, and I will be happy to explain to you why that is. I don't blame you for your feelings, but you really aren't in possession of all the facts.
JF Public Forum |
Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.08.16 14:14:00 -
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DedGuy,
The truth of the matter is that everyone knew that TPS was aiding the PA by keeping Unicor out of the northern war. That was hardly a secret. But what exactly was the alternative? PA needed fighting in the northern regions and TPS took advantage of the Unicor isolation in Geminate to hit you chaps hard. Its not like a decision was ever taken "not to aid you" its simply that the main NCA was (and still is) fully committed in the war against PA.
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But what...really irritates me, is that the Unicor/TPS war went on for near 2 months, and we pulled out of Vale/Geminate almost 3 weeks ago....... and Jade feels that this topic has to be brought up NOW?
Speak to me directly on subspace comms and I will tell you exactly why this matter can be brought up now. I don't feel its right to make these things fully public though (at least until I have consulted with the Unicor leaders).
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When TPS start looking north, Jade? When the Unicor "buffer" has gone?
Feeling backstabbed, here.
You are very wrong, and I will be happy to explain to you why that is. I don't blame you for your feelings, but you really aren't in possession of all the facts.
JF Public Forum |
Mongo Peck
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Posted - 2004.08.16 14:14:00 -
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"Personally" Jade I would consider your post purely political "hot air"
You have on numerous occasions defended your actions and agreements with corporations such as m0o with statements such as.....
my enermies, enermy is my friend.
Therefore it seems logical and normal that we should take the same view without any other agreement or alliances having to be in place.
You have also stated in many posts that you consider the TPS nothing more than murdering pirates. Therefore our actions in EC-P8R killing anything and everything apart from friends
seems a normal and logical actions on our part.
Is there a master plan for the TPS to take over the world while in an alliance with PA.... sorry, only in your imagination and we would like to leave that matter of world domination to "Pinky and the Brain"
Mongo speaks !!
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Mongo Peck
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Posted - 2004.08.16 14:14:00 -
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"Personally" Jade I would consider your post purely political "hot air"
You have on numerous occasions defended your actions and agreements with corporations such as m0o with statements such as.....
my enermies, enermy is my friend.
Therefore it seems logical and normal that we should take the same view without any other agreement or alliances having to be in place.
You have also stated in many posts that you consider the TPS nothing more than murdering pirates. Therefore our actions in EC-P8R killing anything and everything apart from friends
seems a normal and logical actions on our part.
Is there a master plan for the TPS to take over the world while in an alliance with PA.... sorry, only in your imagination and we would like to leave that matter of world domination to "Pinky and the Brain"
Mongo speaks !!
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.08.16 14:18:00 -
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Quote:
Since PA forces also operate in these areas, PA forces have been asked not to fire unless fired upon by TPS. I suspect TPS has been doing the same, as SOME PA ships have been left unmolested past TPS blockades in Pure Blind. On the other hand, I had numberous reports from angry PA pilots this week-end who were attacked by TPS forces. Some may call "try not to shoot each other if you can avoid it" a deal with the devil, but to me it's simple common sense, when two groups have the same set of enemies. PA didn't declare this war, and is still willing to accept peace gestures from combatants, but in the meanwhile any suffering visited upon our declared war enemies is welcome, IMHO.
So thats a NAP (Non Agression Pact) and arrangement of Military cooporation to a common objective then Bobby Wilson.
Thank you for clearing that up.
JF Public Forum |
Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.08.16 14:18:00 -
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Quote:
Since PA forces also operate in these areas, PA forces have been asked not to fire unless fired upon by TPS. I suspect TPS has been doing the same, as SOME PA ships have been left unmolested past TPS blockades in Pure Blind. On the other hand, I had numberous reports from angry PA pilots this week-end who were attacked by TPS forces. Some may call "try not to shoot each other if you can avoid it" a deal with the devil, but to me it's simple common sense, when two groups have the same set of enemies. PA didn't declare this war, and is still willing to accept peace gestures from combatants, but in the meanwhile any suffering visited upon our declared war enemies is welcome, IMHO.
So thats a NAP (Non Agression Pact) and arrangement of Military cooporation to a common objective then Bobby Wilson.
Thank you for clearing that up.
JF Public Forum |
The End
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Posted - 2004.08.16 14:18:00 -
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***OFFICIAL TPS RESPONSE***
Ok First and foremost TPS has no official nap with anyone
We have no nap with PA
PA forces in TPS space are KOS as TPS forces are KOS to pa in PA space
if we decide to let people go then we decide to let people go. that is our business and no one else's
The virus of the north must be and will be exterminated.
So in Conclusion. Mind your own business and die peacefully 
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The End
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Posted - 2004.08.16 14:18:00 -
[104]
***OFFICIAL TPS RESPONSE***
Ok First and foremost TPS has no official nap with anyone
We have no nap with PA
PA forces in TPS space are KOS as TPS forces are KOS to pa in PA space
if we decide to let people go then we decide to let people go. that is our business and no one else's
The virus of the north must be and will be exterminated.
So in Conclusion. Mind your own business and die peacefully
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Bobby Wilson
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Posted - 2004.08.16 14:21:00 -
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Just to make it clear, I would like all PA members to refrain from engaging the post's originator. Celest had a legit question, and deserved and answer. The post's originator doesn't ever post except to manipulate, deceive or incite. Halseth may chose to comment later, however the rest of us shouldn't. Thank you.
BW
Originally by: Selim
Cool, congrats.
Oh, stupid idea by the way.
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Bobby Wilson
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Posted - 2004.08.16 14:21:00 -
[106]
Just to make it clear, I would like all PA members to refrain from engaging the post's originator. Celest had a legit question, and deserved and answer. The post's originator doesn't ever post except to manipulate, deceive or incite. Halseth may chose to comment later, however the rest of us shouldn't. Thank you.
BW
Originally by: Selim
Cool, congrats.
Oh, stupid idea by the way.
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Frakri Hogsto
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Posted - 2004.08.16 14:26:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Jade Constantine
Fraki Hogsto,
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And your views on the nap/joint efforts with m0o and nca? I'm not whining by any means, i'd just like to hear what you have to say about that.
The problem is this line of debate inevitably spirals down into the standard "your allied with pirates! NO ... YOUR ALLIED with Pirates! Am not, am so!" style of argument that has filled these communications channels with utter tosh for weeks and weeks.
The simple answer on the NCA and Moo equation is this:
NCA = Cover banner for anti PA efforts not an alliance. Hence NCA is alligned with corps that do work with Moo, ie, RKK, Evolution, and others on occasion. And also alligned with corps that shoot Moo on sight without pause. (the NORAD corps for example). Moo has probably spent more time shooting NORAD recently than they have shooting PA.
But thats not what this discussion and orignal question was about.
I didn't ask "who is a pirate?" or "who is working with pirates?" or say "blah blah blah you are a pirate blah blah blah!"
I asked how we should name the silent NAP/Military alliance between PA and TPS. Given that both entities are alliances in their own right, this arrangement between them needs to have a name.
And thats it. If you want to create yet another thread arguing the morality of piracy in Eve star cluster then go for it. But to be quite honest its a debate thats played out and lacking all worthwhile context given the current economic systems and political methodology in place.
Sorry Jade,
That question was aimed at celestial apoc, i can see how you thought i wanted a reply from you, as i mentioned your name in that post, and quoted you.....
Again, can i please hear what CELESTIAL APOC have to say about this?
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Frakri Hogsto
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Posted - 2004.08.16 14:26:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
Fraki Hogsto,
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And your views on the nap/joint efforts with m0o and nca? I'm not whining by any means, i'd just like to hear what you have to say about that.
The problem is this line of debate inevitably spirals down into the standard "your allied with pirates! NO ... YOUR ALLIED with Pirates! Am not, am so!" style of argument that has filled these communications channels with utter tosh for weeks and weeks.
The simple answer on the NCA and Moo equation is this:
NCA = Cover banner for anti PA efforts not an alliance. Hence NCA is alligned with corps that do work with Moo, ie, RKK, Evolution, and others on occasion. And also alligned with corps that shoot Moo on sight without pause. (the NORAD corps for example). Moo has probably spent more time shooting NORAD recently than they have shooting PA.
But thats not what this discussion and orignal question was about.
I didn't ask "who is a pirate?" or "who is working with pirates?" or say "blah blah blah you are a pirate blah blah blah!"
I asked how we should name the silent NAP/Military alliance between PA and TPS. Given that both entities are alliances in their own right, this arrangement between them needs to have a name.
And thats it. If you want to create yet another thread arguing the morality of piracy in Eve star cluster then go for it. But to be quite honest its a debate thats played out and lacking all worthwhile context given the current economic systems and political methodology in place.
Sorry Jade,
That question was aimed at celestial apoc, i can see how you thought i wanted a reply from you, as i mentioned your name in that post, and quoted you.....
Again, can i please hear what CELESTIAL APOC have to say about this?
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.08.16 14:27:00 -
[109]
Originally by: The End
***OFFICIAL TPS RESPONSE***
Ok First and foremost TPS has no official nap with anyone
We have no nap with PA
PA forces in TPS space are KOS as TPS forces are KOS to pa in PA space
if we decide to let people go then we decide to let people go. that is our business and no one else's
The virus of the north must be and will be exterminated.
So in Conclusion. Mind your own business and die peacefully
So monsieur Ends, to interpret your statement in clear terms. You have a territoial exclusion pact between the PA and TPS. (neither of you allows the presence of each others ships in respective claimed territory) Other than that there is an informal silent NAP in common war zones PB, Fade, Deklein. And you are happy to have your chaps gate-camping with the PA and sharing the military objective of destroying the NCA.
Fair enough?
JF Public Forum |
Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.08.16 14:27:00 -
[110]
Originally by: The End
***OFFICIAL TPS RESPONSE***
Ok First and foremost TPS has no official nap with anyone
We have no nap with PA
PA forces in TPS space are KOS as TPS forces are KOS to pa in PA space
if we decide to let people go then we decide to let people go. that is our business and no one else's
The virus of the north must be and will be exterminated.
So in Conclusion. Mind your own business and die peacefully
So monsieur Ends, to interpret your statement in clear terms. You have a territoial exclusion pact between the PA and TPS. (neither of you allows the presence of each others ships in respective claimed territory) Other than that there is an informal silent NAP in common war zones PB, Fade, Deklein. And you are happy to have your chaps gate-camping with the PA and sharing the military objective of destroying the NCA.
Fair enough?
JF Public Forum |
Miss Take
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Posted - 2004.08.16 14:27:00 -
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when did Cao Cao become t3h leader?
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Miss Take
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Posted - 2004.08.16 14:27:00 -
[112]
when did Cao Cao become t3h leader?
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.08.16 14:29:00 -
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Edited by: darth solo on 16/08/2004 14:53:14
delested, cause i wont give my views untill iv spoken with the lads.......
see, i can stay in line:).
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.08.16 14:29:00 -
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Edited by: darth solo on 16/08/2004 14:53:14
delested, cause i wont give my views untill iv spoken with the lads.......
see, i can stay in line:).
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Mongo Peck
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Posted - 2004.08.16 14:29:00 -
[115]
He's not ..... but at the time of the post he was the only one I could remember that could spell 
Mongo speaks !!
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Mongo Peck
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Posted - 2004.08.16 14:29:00 -
[116]
He's not ..... but at the time of the post he was the only one I could remember that could spell
Mongo speaks !!
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Diemos
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Posted - 2004.08.16 14:30:00 -
[117]
Edited by: Diemos on 16/08/2004 14:34:09
Jade heres my definition of a NAP;
A discrete term for a ************ session.
Example
My roommate just left for class, so I think I'm going to take a nap.
Hope that helps you 
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Diemos
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Posted - 2004.08.16 14:30:00 -
[118]
Edited by: Diemos on 16/08/2004 14:34:09
Jade heres my definition of a NAP;
A discrete term for a ************ session.
Example
My roommate just left for class, so I think I'm going to take a nap.
Hope that helps you
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The End
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Posted - 2004.08.16 14:30:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Miss Take
when did Cao Cao become t3h leader?
That is because people have no clue what really goes on and just assume
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The End
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Posted - 2004.08.16 14:30:00 -
[120]
Originally by: Miss Take
when did Cao Cao become t3h leader?
That is because people have no clue what really goes on and just assume
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