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Edaine Numenor
Disciples of Ston
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Posted - 2011.09.14 13:50:00 -
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My Response to all the high, holy and over-inflated Latin used on these forums.
Clamo, clamatis, omnes clamamus pro glace lactis
In other words, using Latin doesn't make your argument right in spite of the sound.
For those who may disagree:
inducula meam manducetis
(please take this as intended, with a sense of humor and not a personal insult as is too often the case here) |
Ilsenae Alexandros
Wiyrkomi Honor Guard
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Posted - 2011.09.14 14:04:00 -
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Only if you/the Stons stop using "ancient Earth literature." There isn't any Earth literature. (Also please stop using Bible quotes as Amarr Scripture. The two are truly nothing alike.) Ilsenae Alexandros,-áEskeitan of the Wiyrkomi Honor Guard Eskeitanen Wiyrkomi Kaashivon-á |
Edaine Numenor
Disciples of Ston
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Posted - 2011.09.14 14:22:00 -
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Ilsenae Alexandros wrote:Only if you/the Stons stop using "ancient Earth literature." There isn't any Earth literature. (Also please stop using Bible quotes as Amarr Scripture. The two are truly nothing alike.) Ms. Alexandros, have an ice-cream, I'm buying. |
Ilsenae Alexandros
Wiyrkomi Honor Guard
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Posted - 2011.09.14 14:26:00 -
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Ice cream! Yay! I'll have green tea flavored, please. Ilsenae Alexandros,-áEskeitan of the Wiyrkomi Honor Guard Eskeitanen Wiyrkomi Kaashivon-á |
Ston Momaki
Disciples of Ston
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Posted - 2011.09.14 14:52:00 -
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A disclaimer is in order.
Edaine is not actually a disciple and sometimes he will say things not quite in the tone and order of Disciple etiquette. He gets this way when he's bored. Sometimes this is done just to get under my skin, but we have learned to take each other with a grain of salt. And Edaine, while we do disagree from time to time, I have no intention of eating your undergarment.
P.S. Ice-cream gives me gas |
Ilsenae Alexandros
Wiyrkomi Honor Guard
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Posted - 2011.09.14 14:57:00 -
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Ston Momaki wrote:Ice-cream gives me gas
You poor, poor soul.
Ilsenae Alexandros,-áEskeitan of the Wiyrkomi Honor Guard Eskeitanen Wiyrkomi Kaashivon-á |
Conventia Underking
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2011.09.14 16:44:00 -
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It would seem for the best to stick to languages we can all claim to understand. For God, Empire and Empress! |
Ilsenae Alexandros
Wiyrkomi Honor Guard
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Posted - 2011.09.14 19:22:00 -
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Like ice cream! Ilsenae Alexandros,-áEskeitan of the Wiyrkomi Honor Guard Eskeitanen Wiyrkomi Kaashivon-á |
Malcolm Khross
Wiyrkomi Honor Guard
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Posted - 2011.09.14 19:33:00 -
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I get the picture, Senae!
....I'll get the ice cream tonight, honestly. ~Captain Malcolm Khross, Dyishi Aunni of the Wirykomi Honor Guard Eskeitanen Wiyrkomi Kaashivon
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Jason Galente
mishima ryu
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Posted - 2011.09.14 20:18:00 -
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Another ice cream night? Of course, any discussion on ice cream wouldn't be complete without Valerie Valate.
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Ava Starfire
Teraa Matar
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Posted - 2011.09.14 21:33:00 -
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-+Que dijiste? |
Verone
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2011.09.14 21:36:00 -
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Over inflated what?
Verone CEO & Executor Veto Corp WWW.VETO-CORP.COM |
Alica Wildfire
Federal Investigations Agency
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Posted - 2011.09.15 06:42:00 -
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I scream you scream we all scream for ice cream! I scream you scream we all scream for ice cream! I scream you scream we all scream for ice cream!
Auch andere M++tter haben sch+¦ne T+¦chter.
There is not just one language on this world. Open your mind. Many things said in a different language than thought fall flat through the translation. Some may work, many not. Especially sayings do not work. We live in a multicultural universe and to see a bit of it here and there is not a bad thing.
Many things I think and am able to think, many things I would like to express I can't. Especially most of the Sebiestor humor is lost through translation, so I don't. Because they don't work on galactic standard. To force the use of one language is the first step to impoverish the world of thoughts.
But if you use it, use it in a way that the stuff you write can be understood without it. Use it to enrich your language, not to build up barriers. That's my two cents (which is not much nowadays).
Romani ite domum.
There are parts of this world where it is something special to be able to speak a second language. In my part of the world it's special to speak more than three and you look like an idiot when you speak less than two. In other times it was normal for people to talk at least six languages fluently (if you had higher school education). Which makes us look bad today anyway. We're dumming down. And ignorant enough to ignore it.
Open your mind. Enrich thoughts. Use what you got. FREEDOM, PUNK & AUTOCANNONS |
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CCP Spitfire
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.15 08:53:00 -
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Moved from "Intergalactic Summit" so that the discussion may continue without breaking the IGS forum rules.
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Zanziba'ar
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers The 0rphanage
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Posted - 2011.09.15 09:00:00 -
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CCP Spitfire wrote:Moved from "Intergalactic Summit" so that the discussion may continue without breaking the IGS forum rules.
thank god for that now i can speak OOC.... You wouldnt know what Latin is! its almost forgotten on earth in todays date so why would it be known in a place were earth is but a myth and we have no knowledge if it? people in New Eden do not know latin.. end of - Mulzvich "Zanziba'ar" Gorath |
Ilsenae Alexandros
Wiyrkomi Honor Guard
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Posted - 2011.09.16 13:05:00 -
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NO BIBLE QUOTES Ilsenae Alexandros,-áEskeitan of the Wiyrkomi Honor Guard Eskeitanen Wiyrkomi Kaashivon-á |
Ilsenae Alexandros
Wiyrkomi Honor Guard
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Posted - 2011.09.16 13:06:00 -
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I AM YELLING IN THE HOPES YOU WILL LISTEN TO ME Ilsenae Alexandros,-áEskeitan of the Wiyrkomi Honor Guard Eskeitanen Wiyrkomi Kaashivon-á |
Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.09.16 14:05:00 -
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Zanziba'ar wrote:CCP Spitfire wrote:Moved from "Intergalactic Summit" so that the discussion may continue without breaking the IGS forum rules. thank god for that now i can speak OOC.... You wouldnt know what Latin is! its almost forgotten on earth in todays date so why would it be known in a place were earth is but a myth and we have no knowledge if it? people in New Eden do not know latin.. end of
Except that the Amarr are direct descendants of the Unified Catholic Church; a group that is very likely to have revived Latin to the extreme making it no wonder why it has a place in "modern" Amarr society.
Though, that exact quotes from the Bible should have survived all these millenia is both streching imagination a bit too far and way out of place for the EVE setting. As per game policies, no direct Real World politics or religious stuff is allowed in EVE. Mr. Science & Trade Institute, EVE Online Lorebook-á |
Edaine Numenor
Disciples of Ston
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Posted - 2011.09.18 01:22:00 -
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A problem that many capsuleers have is the inability to keep track of the last lie.
mendacem memorem esse oportet |
Alica Wildfire
Federal Investigations Agency
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Posted - 2011.09.18 08:22:00 -
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Fact is the world of New Eden has a babel of languages. I don't think it's too smart to invent every language just because you have fear relaying on ancient but existing ones. Like Latin, ancient Greek, Maya, Babylonian or whatever comes up. The trick with using languages is that we as authors try to achieve something with it.
We try to put an effect on our story. And for this it is regardless if we begin to invent a new language for this or just use an existing. I wouldn't like to see anything like Klingon or Tolkins Elven language in a EVE related story because it really doesn't fit from the background. But to see an Amarr using Latin - whatever.
It does the effect, doesn't it? And we neither talk all ENGLISH here, do we? We talk something like galactic standard and for better understanding for everyone we use English for it. But English is for sure not the galactic language in the world of New Eden. As Latin will not be for the scriptures of Amarr.
But it does the job. And you can always overdo in details. So I'd just relax and watch them using Latin. It has the correct background, while I would like better to see them use Hebrew for it. That would be authentic, when I think of scriptures. But of cause most of us would not understand a word of it anymore which is not the case with Latin.
The English language has for someone with a different language background as his native tongue some nasty limiting features. A lot of the things that are going through my mind and that I'd like to express I can't do in English without it coming up sounding strange. I'm a native German speaker. And while my English is okay, I think, it's absolutely no compare to my skills in German. And I sometimes miss painfully to use the small differences in language that would fit so well to Alica and that aren't there in English - at least not for my skills in this language. I sometimes have the feeling to talk like a child in English - if I compare it to the way I would use the German language.
But this is a compromise I do. I prefer the IGS and these forums over the German ones any times. Even with the language barrier and the loss due to translation of thoughts I guess the English forum is -hm- more open I guess. FREEDOM, PUNK & AUTOCANNONS |
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Edaine Numenor
Disciples of Ston
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Posted - 2011.09.18 13:53:00 -
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Oh yes, language. What labors we pour into it, but what comes of it? What is born of these labors? Especially on these forums parturient montes, nascetur ridiculus mus |
Edaine Numenor
Disciples of Ston
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Posted - 2011.09.25 19:19:00 -
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I have decided to propose a Latin guessing contest. The first pilot to guess the rough translation of the Latin insult, rebuff, etc., wins a cameo mention on IGS. The first one is from Perseus: dare pondus idonea fumo
Give the translation. |
Telegram Sam
The Drones Club
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Posted - 2011.09.26 18:38:00 -
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Edaine Numenor wrote:I have decided to propose a Latin guessing contest. The first pilot to guess the rough translation of the Latin insult, rebuff, etc., wins a cameo mention on IGS. The first one is from Perseus: dare pondus idonea fumo
Give the translation.
Something like, "To give smoke the proper weight"(?) Which I'd speculate is used when one needs to say, "That's just nitpicking and hair-splitting."
[P.S. When is a linguist among us going to develop a Gallentean, Matari, etc. lexicon? Trekkies have Klingon, where are our New Eden languages?] The events of war and battle are driven by-áthree interactive forces:-á Strategy & Reason;-á-á Rage & Emotion;-á-á Probability & Chance. -Clausewitz |
Edaine Numenor
Disciples of Ston
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Posted - 2011.09.27 14:49:00 -
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Congratulations, Telegram Sam, you got it right. It is indeed a Latin rebuff that has many versions on these forums in many arguments. You win a cameo appearance of your name in the IGS forum.
Be watching for another one soon. |
Banroh
Fleet of the Damned Legion of The Damned.
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Posted - 2011.10.26 08:32:00 -
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Fun to see likeminded people.
Latin when used on bios, corp names and all that is idiotic, person who uses this language has mostly googled his latin statements and mostly likely doesnt even understand this dead language.
Ps. I prefer esperanto |
Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.26 11:26:00 -
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Telegram Sam wrote:P.S. When is a linguist among us going to develop a Gallentean, Matari, etc. lexicon? Trekkies have Klingon, where are our New Eden languages?] There are works covering Amarrian, Caldari and even Intaki languages.
Might provide links later. Mr. Science & Trade Institute, EVE Online Lorebook-á |
Lucius Vindictus
East Khanid Trading Khanid Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.10.26 13:02:00 -
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Doh! Disregard this post. |
Telegram Sam
The Drones Club
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Posted - 2011.10.26 14:00:00 -
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Quote:Except that the Amarr are direct descendants of the Unified Catholic Church; a group that is very likely to have revived Latin to the extreme making it no wonder why it has a place in "modern" Amarr society. Though, that exact quotes from the Bible should have survived all these millenia is both streching imagination a bit too far and way out of place for the EVE setting. As per game policies, no direct Real World politics or religious stuff is allowed in EVE
Is this an official part of the lore? Not challenging the statement, just wondering. If Amarr religion is descended from the Catholic Church, that's a pretty rich background to work with for fiction ideas. And I promise not to use Latin...! : ) Unless it's Latin that has been transmogrified into something barely recognizable, from 140 centuries of contact with New Eden languages.
This recent thread has some links to stuff on New Eden languages, if anyone's interested. link |
Edaine Numenor
Disciples of Ston
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Posted - 2011.10.26 15:28:00 -
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Its been a bit since I posted another Latin phrase, but I figured that we all need to lighten up a bit. So... next time you are in a heated argument with someone on whatever channel on whatever forum, try on this Latin zinger as a rebuff.
First person to give my the equivalent English idiom wins a cameo mention on The DSTON log.
Tu mihi manducare INDUCULA! |
Cynthia Gallente
Zodiac Research Society
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Posted - 2011.10.26 16:25:00 -
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Jowen Datloran wrote:Telegram Sam wrote:P.S. When is a linguist among us going to develop a Gallentean, Matari, etc. lexicon? Trekkies have Klingon, where are our New Eden languages?] There are works covering Amarrian, Caldari and even Intaki languages. Might provide links later.
Forgive my ignorance, but I thought Intaki were assimilated into Amarr culture. Wouldn't that mean that they would be speaking the same language as the Empire? |
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