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Gamer4liff
Caldari
Metalworks
THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY
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Posted - 2009.03.15 20:55:00 -
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I just want to find specialty sites and combat sites, as common as wormholes are I'd just use one of the ones I found earlier. It's kind of annoying to scan down something unknown and just have it be yet another wormhole.
Nothing against W-space of course, I just already have an access point for today and I don't need 5.
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 Originally by: CCP Whisper
Deal with it.
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ollobrains2
Gallente
New Eve Order Holdings
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Posted - 2009.03.15 22:35:00 -
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they already have
Deep space probes
8au and less
Cosmic signature - group unknown ( in known space they are also ded sites and drone combat complexes and wormholes)
Wormhole space = all unknowns wormhole at 8au or less.
Astrometrics 5 to use
Solution take both dsp and core probes in get stuck or want to find exit use dsp then down to core probes at 4au. I can find my way out in 10-15 minutes
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Gamer4liff
Caldari
Metalworks
THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY
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Posted - 2009.03.15 22:58:00 -
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Um, no? DSP's are used to find both exploration sites and ships and whatnot, they are functionally exactly the same as core probes if you use them with only "Cosmic Signature" selected.
There is no way to differentiate between cosmic signatures because EVERYTHING exploration (except for anomalies) are under the category "cosmic signatures" and you have to probe them down to a reasonable level to find out exactly what they are.
I'm not talking about finding my way out of wormhole space, I'm talking about not having to bother scanning down another wormhole in known space when that is not what I'm looking for. It's annoying and wastes time.
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Originally by: CCP Whisper
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Jesum
Amarr
Black Rainbow Knights
Unity Thru Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.03.15 23:03:00 -
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Please do not.
Those who go in unprepared should face the isk-sink wormholes are to the unprepared.
To quote CCP Whisper:
Deal with it.
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Gamer4liff
Caldari
Metalworks
THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY
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Posted - 2009.03.15 23:07:00 -
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Edited by: Gamer4liff on 15/03/2009 23:16:41
Originally by: Jesum
Please do not.
Those who go in unprepared should face the isk-sink wormholes are to the unprepared.
To quote CCP Whisper:
Deal with it.
I don't think you get it. This has nothing to do with "isk sink" or getting stuck in wormholes. This is about probing down things in KNOWN space and finding out that they are wormholes when you are looking for normal exploration sites. Given the extreme differences between wormholes and normal sites, I think they should be given a different filter category, such as "cosmic disturbance" as opposed to "cosmic signature" or something like that.
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Originally by: CCP Whisper
Deal with it.
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Ryusoath Orillian
Minmatar
INDUSTIENCE
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Posted - 2009.03.16 01:04:00 -
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Originally by: Gamer4liff
I just want to find specialty sites and combat sites, as common as wormholes are I'd just use one of the ones I found earlier. It's kind of annoying to scan down something unknown and just have it be yet another wormhole.
Nothing against W-space of course, I just already have an access point for today and I don't need 5.
100% agree. i don't want to waste time finding wormholes that are of no use to me
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Mechwing
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Posted - 2009.03.16 02:15:00 -
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I have to agree big time, I am trying to find my way out after the 3rd day of being trapped. I am low on Ammo, lots of probes and now working on the 13th Gravimetric Site, looking for a Wormhole out of there. Wormholes need to be something else besides Signature.
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Allaera
Caldari
Kisogo research group
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Posted - 2009.03.16 07:42:00 -
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/signed
and underlined so vigorously I tore through the screen 
Stuff the WH's, hell, I can filter out anomalies why not WH's?
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2009.03.16 11:15:00 -
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With a worm specific filter, finding them becomes so trivial that you might as well add them as beacons on overview and remove them from probe results all together.
A far better way, that wouldn't require re-coding, is to tweak when they are identified compared to other unknowns. If they expose their nature already at 8AU probe range, it is a simple matter to memorize location and ignore it.
For W-Space this will need special rules since a collapsed worm SHOULD hurt those who venture there. It is currently nigh on impossible to find the damn things which is good .. gives a sense of urgency, panic and makes CovOps almost mandatory for their improved probing capability.
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Sigras
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Posted - 2009.03.16 11:23:00 -
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i see the OP`s point but it would have the side effect of making it too easy to get out of WH space which imho should be as hard as it is . . . out here there be pirates 
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Kahega Amielden
Minmatar
Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2009.03.16 13:05:00 -
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It's fine. It balances out the fact that it takes virtually no time to scan anything out now.
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Gamer4liff
Caldari
Metalworks
THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY
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Posted - 2009.03.16 15:25:00 -
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Originally by: Kahega Amielden
It's fine. It balances out the fact that it takes virtually no time to scan anything out now.
I dunno, the harder signals take quite some time, I only found one spot recently because I had maxed skills and maxed probing gear. The easier stuff though yeah is pretty quick though yeah.
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Originally by: CCP Whisper
Deal with it.
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Daedalus II
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Posted - 2009.03.16 16:29:00 -
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What about always letting wormhole signatures be slightly stronger than all other signatures in the system? This would work both for people that don't want to find wormholes (disregard the strongest signature, or at least wait with it til last), and people that want to find wormholes (scan down the strongest signature, if it isn't a wormhole none exists in this system).
But maybe this would make it too easy to find wormholes?
Me an my team got stuck in wormhole space for 3 hours, with 3 CovOps constantly scanning. They found 20-30 sites and no wormhole, so eventually we filed a stuck petition. Turned out the system was bugged and there didn't even exist any exit wormhole! Did we waste our time or what?
Had wormholes worked as I suggested above, we could just have scanned the strongest signature and find out that it wasn't a wormhole.
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