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Lexmana
Imperial Stout
376
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Posted - 2012.04.29 07:10:00 -
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Duvida wrote:I'm pretty sure that if it got to the point where CCP was saying 'Our paychecks are in danger!', that some 'things' would happen to ensure a happy high-sec population.
I think CCP marketing is pretty happy with the events so far: http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/04/28/nowhere-is-safe-in-eve-online-as-goonswarm-suicide-bombs-galactic-trade-hub/ |

Vulcan23
New Eden Advanced Experiments
3
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Posted - 2012.04.29 07:13:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Welp, now that Hulkageddon is on and the 'official' part of Burn Jita is apparently over, the results from the EVE Kill board are a bit interesting. Of the ships that are use for major transportation of goods, there were destroyed: 25 Freighters 9 Jump Freighters 1 Orca That's IT for major cargoholds that actually haul a descent amount worth halting from trading. Remaining are: 272 T1 Industrial class 87 T2 Transport (smallest cargoholds of these classes) That's a grand total of 394 trade ships with only 35 of them being major ships. I hardly think that broke our economy, especially if you follow CCP Diagoras and the scale of numbers in EVE, which are astonishingly LARGE. This is powdered toast comparatively. The other 9200 losses are combat ships not used for major trade hauling anyway, mainly BC's and Destroyers. More than 1/4 are Capsules. http://www.eve-kill.net/?a=system_detail&sys_id=143
The really amusing thing is the event is a much damper squib than your numbers imply. You are citing a killboard that gives all the kills in Jita for the WHOLE MONTH OF APRIL 
The total number of ships killed is actually only 10-20% of the number you are giving.
Here is the CFC's own campaign KB for Burn Jita:
CFC KB
26 Freighters 10 Jump Freighters 57 Industrial Ships  8 Transport Ships
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qDoctor Strangelove
Beware of the Red Fox
12
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Posted - 2012.04.29 07:24:00 -
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Vulcan23 wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Welp, now that Hulkageddon is on and the 'official' part of Burn Jita is apparently over, the results from the EVE Kill board are a bit interesting. Of the ships that are use for major transportation of goods, there were destroyed: 25 Freighters 9 Jump Freighters 1 Orca That's IT for major cargoholds that actually haul a descent amount worth halting from trading. Remaining are: 272 T1 Industrial class 87 T2 Transport (smallest cargoholds of these classes) That's a grand total of 394 trade ships with only 35 of them being major ships. I hardly think that broke our economy, especially if you follow CCP Diagoras and the scale of numbers in EVE, which are astonishingly LARGE. This is powdered toast comparatively. The other 9200 losses are combat ships not used for major trade hauling anyway, mainly BC's and Destroyers. More than 1/4 are Capsules. http://www.eve-kill.net/?a=system_detail&sys_id=143 The really amusing thing is the event is a much damper squib than your numbers imply. You are citing a killboard that gives all the kills in Jita for the WHOLE MONTH OF APRIL  The total number of ships killed is actually only 10-20% of the number you are giving. Here is the CFC's own campaign KB for Burn Jita: CFC KB26 Freighters 10 Jump Freighters 57 Industrial Ships  8 Transport Ships
What makes you think this is an event for K/D ratios? Go count freighters jumping through gates in/out of JITA.
Also, note that one of the freighters was killed using ONLY destroyers. 134 destroyers or so to be exact. I think I looted 10 of them wrecks after the things chilled down.
And if you are to look at numbers, loot at number of PODS. |

Alara IonStorm
2041
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Posted - 2012.04.29 07:31:00 -
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Wow out off 104 pages April 27 makes up page 75-54 of them and April 28th makes up 54-1.
Close to 2 days this event has done close to 3/4th the damage of all the combat in Jita for a month.
Jita being one of the most consistently violent systems in the game to have 2 days trump of month of war and ganking.
Good Job Jita Event People. 75 Pages in 2 Days. |

Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
578
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Posted - 2012.04.29 07:36:00 -
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You think its over? Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |

Ashrik Tyr
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.04.29 07:39:00 -
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Kengutsi Akira wrote: If any other corp were to camp Jita theyd likely get the same numbers your point?
Believe it when I see it |

Xolve
The Suicide Kings Test Alliance Please Ignore
983
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Posted - 2012.04.29 07:43:00 -
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Kengutsi Akira wrote: Know what the funniest thing about this is? I bet this was all preplanned in advance (the Gions have been screaming at anyone that said this was just tears for Mittens getting banned that this HAS been being planned for months) WITH CCP. CCP gets free press, Goons get to RP that theyre badboys "forcing CCP's hand". its win/win.
Actually 'Burn Jita' was originally scheduled for after fanfest, and had everything to do with Mittens getting over 10,000 votes, wasted or not; Its not about kill:death ratios, isk efficiency, or any other kind of epeen stroking; we're in Jita, ganking things because its fun and the boats were provided.
You can tinfoil all you want, proclaim all you want; but stop trying to pass off your buttmad hypothesis as to what you think the 'what' and 'whys' are, when you are obviously uninformed to EVERYONE that has even remotely payed attention to the ongoings in the game for the last 3 months.
Inappropriate signature removed. Navigator. |

Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
757
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Posted - 2012.04.29 07:47:00 -
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Rico Minali wrote:You think its over?
I certainly hope not, I would feel downright silly killing random industrials in the undock if Burn Jita was over already. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
520
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Posted - 2012.04.29 07:48:00 -
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qDoctor Strangelove wrote:What makes you think this is an event for K/D ratios? Go count freighters jumping through gates in/out of JITA.
Also, note that one of the freighters was killed using ONLY destroyers. 134 destroyers or so to be exact. I think I looted 10 of them wrecks after the things chilled down.
And if you are to look at numbers, loot at number of PODS. The smartbombing typhoons top the k/d ratios haha.
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
520
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Posted - 2012.04.29 07:48:00 -
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Xython wrote:Rico Minali wrote:You think its over? I certainly hope not, I would feel downright silly killing random industrials in the undock if Burn Jita was over already. If you still have the ships, the party continues, at least for you 
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |

Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
757
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Posted - 2012.04.29 07:50:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Xython wrote:Rico Minali wrote:You think its over? I certainly hope not, I would feel downright silly killing random industrials in the undock if Burn Jita was over already. If you still have the ships, the party continues, at least for you 
YAY! |

Vulcan23
New Eden Advanced Experiments
3
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Posted - 2012.04.29 07:55:00 -
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qDoctor Strangelove wrote:
What makes you think this is an event for K/D ratios? Go count freighters jumping through gates in/out of JITA.
Also, note that one of the freighters was killed using ONLY destroyers. 134 destroyers or so to be exact. I think I looted 10 of them wrecks after the things chilled down.
And if you are to look at numbers, loot at number of PODS.
Who said anything about K/D ratios? I thought it was supposed to be about shutting down the biggest hub in the game. These numbers suggest that the objective has not and will not be reached. It seems unlikely that any effect even vaguely close to the promised one will occur.
As to pod numbers, what has that got to do with anything? The vast majority of those will come from the people voluntarily joining in the combat. This event is meant to be an industrial interdiction and, in those terms, it shows little signs of success.
All that aside, the main point of my post was to correct the mistake that everyone has bought into for four pages of this thread - that there have been 10k ships killed during Burn Jita. There haven't. There have been 10k ships killed in Jita in the whole month of April. The little 'Burn Jita' tag at the top of the KB cited in the OP does not indicate that that is a campaign KB for Burn Jita. It appears at the top of every page on that site at the moment. |

Kengutsi Akira
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
452
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Posted - 2012.04.29 08:01:00 -
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Panacani wrote:It's a little disappointing after all the spam and hype about "destroying every ship!", then "destroying every industrial!", then "destroying rich industrials!", then finally "destroying a handful of industrials?".
The most exciting moment in the whole thing was watching 4 goons fail a gank and the guy gets aligned and out anyway with another 50 goons sitting around doing nothing.
And the goon ***** spam - goons sure do seem to like ***** art.
All the hype for a "fell asleep in the theater" moment. Disappointing.
Dunno, the nyx was neat tho it was stupid it got booted to another system
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1109909#post1109909
My stance on WiS (updated) |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
520
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Posted - 2012.04.29 08:01:00 -
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Vulcan23 wrote:Who said anything about K/D ratios? I thought it was supposed to be about shutting down the biggest hub in the game. These numbers suggest that the objective has not and will not be reached. It seems unlikely that any effect even vaguely close to the promised one will occur.
As to pod numbers, what has that got to do with anything? The vast majority of those will come from the people voluntarily joining in the combat. This event is meant to be an industrial interdiction and, in those terms, it shows little signs of success.
All that aside, the main point of my post was to correct the mistake that everyone has bought into for four pages of this thread - that there have been 10k ships killed during Burn Jita. There haven't. There have been 10k ships killed in Jita in the whole month of April. The little 'Burn Jita' tag at the top of the KB cited in the OP does not indicate that that is a campaign KB for Burn Jita. It appears at the top of every page on that site at the moment. GOONS FAILING. FAIL CASCADING.
Guys, the pubbies won, lets just leave them alone.
..
..
Actually, never mind, there's still ships left.
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |

Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
75
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Posted - 2012.04.29 08:04:00 -
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Pickles Wong wrote: Pffft! My final observation on this whole thing is this: If you place buy orders at Jita, forget it for awhile. Put your buy orders elsewhere. Those of us that thoroughly understand EVE markets will find those buy orders in short order and come to you to sell. Doesn't much matter where it is, as long as it isn't in low-sec. Like a particularly large and uncomfortable turd, the Jita disruption will eventually come to pass.
What I thought very funny is apparently 20 something stupid ass freighter pilots ABSOLUTELY HAD TO MOVE **** TODAY
and got what they deserved
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |

Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
75
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Posted - 2012.04.29 08:11:00 -
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Xolve wrote:Kengutsi Akira wrote: Know what the funniest thing about this is? I bet this was all preplanned in advance (the Gions have been screaming at anyone that said this was just tears for Mittens getting banned that this HAS been being planned for months) WITH CCP. CCP gets free press, Goons get to RP that theyre badboys "forcing CCP's hand". its win/win.
Actually 'Burn Jita' was originally scheduled for after fanfest, and had everything to do with Mittens getting over 10,000 votes, wasted or not; Its not about kill:death ratios, isk efficiency, or any other kind of epeen stroking; we're in Jita, ganking things because its fun and the boats were provided. You can tinfoil all you want, proclaim all you want; but stop trying to pass off your buttmad hypothesis as to what you think the 'what' and 'whys' are, when you are obviously uninformed to EVERYONE that has even remotely payed attention to the ongoings in the game for the last 3 months.
... um "Actually 'Burn Jita' was originally scheduled for after fanfest," but his saying it was scheduled in advance it tinfoil... pay more attention to what you type
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |

Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
263
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Posted - 2012.04.29 08:23:00 -
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I'm not sure where people are getting that it was planned with CCP. Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
520
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Posted - 2012.04.29 08:25:00 -
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Lapine Davion wrote:I'm not sure where people are getting that it was planned with CCP. Here. Have some tinfoil. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |

Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
264
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Posted - 2012.04.29 08:27:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Lapine Davion wrote:I'm not sure where people are getting that it was planned with CCP. Here. Have some tinfoil.
Tinfoil gives food a funny taste. I prefer not to use it. Plastic Wrap, on the other hand, is great. Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |

Kengutsi Akira
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
452
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Posted - 2012.04.29 08:37:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Lapine Davion wrote:I'm not sure where people are getting that it was planned with CCP. Here. Have some tinfoil.
Sorry its early in the morning here..
Quote:"There was one bug [the 'bookmark escaping agro bug'] in the game that meant that if they do the things they're going to do, they could have escaped the in-game consequences. So we fixed that bug about three weeks ago. And they went, okay.
So CCP knew at least that long ago what was planed.
So, all of you who wonder why the Boomerang suddenly became an exploit? There you go
"Is it fair that CCP can get away with..." :: checks ownership on the box ::
Yes |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
520
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Posted - 2012.04.29 08:39:00 -
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Lapine Davion wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Lapine Davion wrote:I'm not sure where people are getting that it was planned with CCP. Here. Have some tinfoil. Tinfoil gives food a funny taste. I prefer not to use it. Plastic Wrap, on the other hand, is great. You'll need something sturdier than plastic wrap, given all the fire and explosions going off.
Please, at least take the tinfoil, just in case you need it. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1692
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Posted - 2012.04.29 08:47:00 -
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It was a good event. It will be interesting to see the final numbers when it's finally all over (this time around).
It's interesting that some folks think that any military campaign would limit itself to only being interested in one system. Things don't work that way, as part of the damage done "to that system" is the traffic interdicted moving through all of the surrounding entry and exit points.
Burn Jita is the name of the operation, not a declaration that the damage to traffic moving in and out through it's gates somehow "don't count". When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |

Josef Djugashvilis
126
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Posted - 2012.04.29 08:53:00 -
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How many ships, what type, and who they belonged to is missing the point.
The Goons had the imagination to attack the best know location in Eve.
Great fun, and fantastic free 'positive' publicity for the game. You want fries with that? |

Vulcan23
New Eden Advanced Experiments
3
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Posted - 2012.04.29 08:57:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Vulcan23 wrote:Who said anything about K/D ratios? I thought it was supposed to be about shutting down the biggest hub in the game. These numbers suggest that the objective has not and will not be reached. It seems unlikely that any effect even vaguely close to the promised one will occur.
As to pod numbers, what has that got to do with anything? The vast majority of those will come from the people voluntarily joining in the combat. This event is meant to be an industrial interdiction and, in those terms, it shows little signs of success.
All that aside, the main point of my post was to correct the mistake that everyone has bought into for four pages of this thread - that there have been 10k ships killed during Burn Jita. There haven't. There have been 10k ships killed in Jita in the whole month of April. The little 'Burn Jita' tag at the top of the KB cited in the OP does not indicate that that is a campaign KB for Burn Jita. It appears at the top of every page on that site at the moment. GOONS FAILING. FAIL CASCADING. Guys, the pubbies won, lets just leave them alone. .. .. Actually, never mind, there's still ships left.
Obviously, you guys will declare victory whatever happens (I remember how the loss of Delve was spun by the inimitable goon propaganda machine as goonish destiny). That aside, do you really think you are anywhere near achieving the objectives that were announced in advance? I'm genuinely interested to know but I think it is already somewhat striking that the forums are not flooded with goons loudly crowing about how they have successfully shut down Jita. Rather, we get the trivial 'we're making some pubbies cry' lines, which is a rather less dramatic outcome and hardly mindblowing for an operation that was 3-4 months in the making and involves the most powerful alliance in the game. |

Kitfox Mikakka
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
120
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Posted - 2012.04.29 09:26:00 -
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Kengutsi Akira wrote:Sorry its early in the morning here.. Quote:"There was one bug [the 'bookmark escaping agro bug'] in the game that meant that if they do the things they're going to do, they could have escaped the in-game consequences. So we fixed that bug about three weeks ago. And they went, okay. So CCP knew at least that long ago what was planed. So, all of you who wonder why the Boomerang suddenly became an exploit? There you go
Because it's not like we weren't chatting about this as far back as the CSM election and then started blaring that it was happening from the rooftops a month ago. I know CCP's sort of bad at the whole 'managing a game' thing but not even they'd end up missing that. |

Zxmagus
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4
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Posted - 2012.04.29 10:21:00 -
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To any one that thinks that this didn't effect the eve economy log onto a jita alt and look at the volume of trading in minerals, it's down to less then half of normal. |

Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
75
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Posted - 2012.04.29 11:54:00 -
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Kitfox Mikakka wrote:Kengutsi Akira wrote:Sorry its early in the morning here.. Quote:"There was one bug [the 'bookmark escaping agro bug'] in the game that meant that if they do the things they're going to do, they could have escaped the in-game consequences. So we fixed that bug about three weeks ago. And they went, okay. So CCP knew at least that long ago what was planed. So, all of you who wonder why the Boomerang suddenly became an exploit? There you go Because it's not like we weren't chatting about this as far back as the CSM election and then started blaring that it was happening from the rooftops a month ago. I know CCP's sort of bad at the whole 'managing a game' thing but not even they'd end up missing that.
Yeah its not like you guys have been saying you HAVE been chatting this up since the fix happened 3 weeks ago or anything -.- So is its not bad for you an CCP to have been working together for mutual gain, why not just admit it? Its pretty damn obvious now anyways
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |

Hamshoe
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
20
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Posted - 2012.04.29 12:21:00 -
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Zxmagus wrote:To any one that thinks that this didn't effect the eve economy log onto a jita alt and look at the volume of trading in minerals, it's down to less then half of normal.
Without a timeframe that assertion's meaningless.
It does however make another nice trial balloon for the emerging "it was all an outstanding success!" marketing campaign. |

Garreck
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
12
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Posted - 2012.04.29 12:21:00 -
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Zxmagus wrote:To any one that thinks that this didn't effect the eve economy log onto a jita alt and look at the volume of trading in minerals, it's down to less then half of normal. It was fun watching the volume trend over the past three days. I wonder what the ripple effect was in the other hubs and how many market gurus turned a profit as a result? Obviously it would take a far more concentrated effort to have longer term market impacts, but I think the continual stream of "Goons didn't have any impact" is a lot of doth-protest-too-much. What people don't seem to realize is that even if Goons scored ZERO freighter kills because people actually paid attention, the short term market impacts would've been noticable.
I sat in Jita watching this unfold and genuinely wished I could partake. I think -A- really had the right idea, spamming out some quick wardecs...may ask Equi to do the same for CVA if another such event happens! Or maybe the next event could be a Burn Amarr type thing so some of us wizard-hats feel more inclined to get involved 
Either way it was a fun initiative for Goons to undertake, and whether anyone wants to admit it or not, Goons made themselves, once again, the center of attention. That's pretty cool. |

Naupilo
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.04.29 12:22:00 -
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Karadion Kohlar wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Lapine Davion wrote:This is a thread and the BJ isn't over yet. burn Jita declared by The Mittani for Friday and Saturday, with Hulkageddon beginning Sunday (as it did). It's Sunday. You wouldn't want to dispute the Mittani at his written word now would you ? Shut up. You don't speak for Mittani. Burn Jita will be over when GSF says it's over. Go cry in a corner with your dunce hat. Leavy Britney aloooooone!

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