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Gone'Postal Void Engineers	Posted - 2009.03.16 22:38:00 - [1] My case: Star Wars: Rebellion (or Supremacy in the United Kingdom and Ireland) is a real-time strategy game released in 1998. Its the first "game" I install after a system rebuild, I play it a few times a week and have save games from it's release, Why as gamers do we carry on playing older games that have long since lost the retail battle and become rare even on Ebay. Graphics? SW:R installs DX5.. I don't need graphics to enjoy it, Playablity? ST:R has it, hands down.. Games have come and gone from my hard drive but I've not found a game that I enjoy so much (After Eve). Whats the one game, that you carry on playing after years of completing it over and over again?, why does it have that "You touch that CD and die" feel to it. Who needs crysis level graphics? or a million sound channels? what makes a good game to you fine people? Originally by: masternerdguy Officer mods arent spread out because the bpos are innacesible to 99% of eve.
Cloue Gallente Stripping Agency	Posted - 2009.03.16 22:44:00 - [2] Hmm i have a few, but most frequently used ones are Rise of nations Freelancer Doom diablo Wolfinstien KOTOR And a few more i cant think of right now ---------------------------------------------- 8 out of 10 Owners who Expressed a Preference said Their Cats Preferred Gallente Stripping Agency.
Gone'Postal Void Engineers	Posted - 2009.03.16 22:47:00 - [3] Originally by: Cloue Hmm i have a few, but most frequently used ones are Rise of nations Freelancer Doom diablo Wolfinstien KOTOR And a few more i cant think of right now Nice list of games, but why do you keep going back to them? What is it about older games that new ones just don't have? Originally by: masternerdguy Officer mods arent spread out because the bpos are innacesible to 99% of eve.
Joseph 9 Dead Flesh Corp Rigor Mortis Mortalis	Posted - 2009.03.16 22:52:00 - [4] Ahh, Star Wars Supremacy... that game ****d 3 of my hard drives before I pinned it down as the culprit of a succession of head crashes, god knows what it was doing to them though. Old games I know and love to this day System Shock Prince of Persia - The Sands of Time Fallout and Fallout 2 Shogun Total War Planescape Torment Why do I keep coming back to them? I think the games above have either near perfect game play or top notch characterisation and story line. In the case of Prince of Persia, it has both, if they'd only implemented a good combat system and allowed you to avoid more fights it would be the perfect game.
Micheal Dietrich Caldari	Posted - 2009.03.16 22:53:00 - [5] I still like to load up Empire Earth every now n then for 14 hour long full generation skirmishes. I don't know why but I love playing large islands. I systematically take each island and fortify them with at least one walled city (my stone production is immense). By the time I get to Nano age I've got the computer pinned in with a fleet of ships and I slowly chip away at him for about 10-20 minutes with aircraft coming from 4 carriers and 4 airfields. After the defenses are weakened I move in my fleet to take care of any shipyards and stragglers. Once all that is done I fly a regiment of troops in and hit explore and let them finish the enemy off. Of course in most cases there is usually some peon stuck in a random corner that I have to spend the next 30 minutes looking for. And my father stole my copy of Battlezone over a decade ago and to this day still plays it.
Dmian Gallente Gallenterrorisme	Posted - 2009.03.16 22:53:00 - [6] Originally by: Gone'Postal Nice list of games, but why do you keep going back to them? What is it about older games that new ones just don't have? They are part of your childhood (or teenage years.) ---- Originally by: Anne M. Lindbergh There is no sin punished more implacably by nature than the sin of resistance to change
Benco97 Gallente	Posted - 2009.03.16 22:59:00 - [7] For me a game must have Depth in order for me to play it and really enjoy it, I have no problem playing a fun shooter like FEAR but it'll never be my #1 game unless it's all about the details. As such my favourite games tend to be pretty unpopular these days (Aside from EVE of course) for example I have played RetroMUD for years now and don't see myself stopping any time soon, I keep playing Nethack and ADOM, I very much enjoy all the careful planning and detail involved in building a stunning Dwarf Fortress and the openness of some RPGs like Wizardry and Daggerfall. Of course, I still find it hard to take off the old nostalgia goggles and so my early games will always have honorary places on my list of fave games with Colossal Adventure and Lords of Time (Level9 computing I miss you , I even have Lords of Time on my DS) as well as Harrier and other such games. Perhaps somewhat controversially I never was a big fan of Elite, I think I was probably doing other things at the time and glossed over it. All time fave though? hmm.. that's tough.. so tough infact that I can't give you an answer I love all those games. Originally by: P'uck You're a DUMBASS - bold italic underline at the VERY LEAST.
Cmdr Sy Appetite 4 Destruction The Firm.	Posted - 2009.03.16 23:00:00 - [8] Edited by: Cmdr Sy on 16/03/2009 23:01:28 Originally by: Gone'Postal What is it about older games that new ones just don't have? Flair and imagination. Battlezone. F-22 ADF (I don't play it myself, I'm not pro enough to even touch it, but wow - still) "My truck is loaded." Deer Hunter (what, you never camped a gate in your life?) EVE Classic. Battlezone. But no. This is inadequate. Need more polygons. More particle clouds and shaders! Throw moar! Until one day, the player experience largely depends on how many times the name of your graphics card features the letter X. EDIT: Starcraft. How could I forget?
Zaknussem Intrum Industria	Posted - 2009.03.16 23:06:00 - [9] In my case, after having played literally hundreds (if not thousands) of PC games, the clear winner(s) after all these years are Thief 1 & 2. Other runners-up are Doom (2) and Fallout 1 & 2. In all of the above cases the reason is pretty much the same: Fan-made content. Very few games have had as much user content created for them as Doom, while Thief and the Fallout games have dedicated fans creating high-quality content as we speak. For games over a decade old, that's saying something. In the case of the OP and Star Wars: Rebellion (Supremacy), the reason is different but perfectly understandable: High replay value. Many strategy games similar to Rebellion offer a different game with each playthrough, as random maps and events call for different tactics. Civilization and Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri are two similar games I also hold in high regards.
Dmian Gallente Gallenterrorisme	Posted - 2009.03.16 23:06:00 - [10] There will be a time, 20 years from now, that a 30 something will say "why is it that I keep playing Mario Galaxy again and again?" ---- Originally by: Anne M. Lindbergh There is no sin punished more implacably by nature than the sin of resistance to change

Jacob Mei	Posted - 2009.03.16 23:07:00 - [11] Old games I love: Xwing Freespace 1 & 2 ST: Armada 1 Homeworld 2 Sim city 3000 I think we love the old games because they are innovative, have a particularly interesting storyline, falling to that "our first time in the genre" catagory or just happen to still manage to run on the computer. -------------------------------- To borrow a phrase: Players who post are like stars, there are bright ones and those who are dim.
Dantes Revenge Caldari	Posted - 2009.03.16 23:16:00 - [12] Elite Frontier and First Encounters for gameplay that goes on and on. No storyline unless you want to play it. Wing commander 2 & 3 and Prophecy. Some stories are just made to re-enact over and over. Privateer 2. Now I wonder what would happen if I took this path and made that decision instead. Plus the fact that recently, there seems to be a shortage of new space sims. Why can't CCP create an open ended sim based on Eve? It could be a huge hit. -- Originally by: CCP Whisper No it is not an official statement. Not everything surrounded by blue bars is an official statement which can be quoted as fact until the end of time. Deal with it.
Tzar'rim	Posted - 2009.03.17 01:02:00 - [13] The difference is the developers being daring, experimental and trying to make something funky rather than the cubicle, 9-5 code monkeys who are being suppressed by the mighty publishers who just want you to churn out Dead Horse 17, and they already got you by the balls so you'll have to make them 18 and 19 too. In other words; they lost their soul, which means soulless boring games. Thing is ofcourse they get bought by the zillions. No one plays Psychonauts, everyone plays NFS37 and Anime_ripoff84. Self-proclaimed idiot
Jake Silence	Posted - 2009.03.17 01:19:00 - [14] http://www.thangorodrim.net/variants.html Angband and variants. ASCII game nostalgia. I spent way too much time playing about 5 variants a long time ago.
M4cr0 Min3r	Posted - 2009.03.17 01:22:00 - [15] Can't believe no-one has mentioned UFO/Terror froom the Deep yet. Legendary games still worth replaying. Why I replay them: Atmosphere. UFO especially. MIB, secret bases, alien invasion, alien mind control, you get to kill greys and make flying saucers. And all before the x-files came out. Challenge - TFTD especially. 2nd Jan base invasion has been known Player actions have consequences. Losing half your squad for a lobster man navigator (critical research alien) can make life much easier, and dodging a hard terror site can come back to haunt you when the funding nations give final notice and theres only ethereals. And like someone else said, it was a game I played when younger.
Last Wolf Umbra Wing	Posted - 2009.03.17 03:24:00 - [16] Warlords Battle cry. I LOVE that game. But it won't run on my new computer =( Or even my old computer. Hasn't worked since I had a computer with XP I miss that game. /sigh Besides, I'm never gonna give you up, never gonna let you down
Rawr Cristina Caldari Naqam Exalted.	Posted - 2009.03.17 03:48:00 - [17] no matter how hard I try I always go back to my old favourite space games in the end. Homeworld Imperium Galactica II Pax Imperia Fragile Alliegance Frontier just don't make games like that anymore. - Contagious -
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.03.17 06:05:00 - [18] Master of Orion II: Battle at Antares (MOO2, 1996) Aaah, good old times of hotseat multiplayer... Never, ever had a machine that didn't have it on the HDD almost permanently. I think I cloked more hours in it than any other game. _ Create a character \|\| Fit a ship \|\| Get some ISK
Carniflex Caldari Fallout Research Fallout Project	Posted - 2009.03.17 07:24:00 - [19] Back in the old days game had to have a IDEA to sell. Nowdays it seems that most of the effort goes into making it look pretty and actual gameplay will remain somewhat ... shallow ... in most cases. Thus those old enough to remember what game should be like drift back to nethack or Elite II or whatever from time to time. Nothing wrong with pretty game ofc - but at the end of day it's the actual content that counts.
Reven Cordelle Caldari Lemuria Prospecting	Posted - 2009.03.17 10:24:00 - [20] Privateer 2 - Definately. The amount of boundries that shattered back in the day, all star cast.. amazing graphics for the time. Man, I love that game - the fact you got Audio Smacktalk from the NPCs was just win. Pure Win.

MakkaHS Intersteller Trade and Defence Union N E M E S I S	Posted - 2009.03.17 11:15:00 - [21] Old games I liked... Command and conquer (original and red alert series) Age of empires (I and II) Sim city 2000 Baldur's Gate I still like them and play them because they were what got me into gaming in the first place.
jason hill Caldari Clan Shadow Wolf Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.17 11:58:00 - [22] the original C&C genre... An I wish that someone would redo the old syndicate series (hint CCP hint) destroy everything you touch
Horza Otho Galactic Shipyards Inc HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2009.03.17 12:21:00 - [23] Age of Empires 1 and 2 were my all time favorite games when i was younger, i easily spent 6 hours a day playing both multiplayer and trying to beat my previous time on beating the campaigns. Other old favorites are deffinitly Duke Nukem, it was my first mature content game, and boy did i love it. Not to mention i loved playing it at only 5 years old. :D The original Doom gets a mention for the same reason as Duke Nukem. It was also my first ever FPS i played multiplayer on, whether it was LANing with my dad or with anyone else i could find. Finally, my favorite Star Wars games of all time are the original Dark Forces series. I am of course biased because back then at my young age i thought star wars was the only thing in the world that mattered. (altho i still have that problem sometimes :P) I also really loved the multiplayer, almost as much as the Doom multiplayer. -----------
Thorn Hallis	Posted - 2009.03.17 13:14:00 - [24] Old games I still play (sometimes): Strike Commander / Pacific Strike / Wings of Glory Noctropolis Aces of the Deep F14 Fleet Defender Ultima VII 1 & 2 Panzer General
Delvardious Kaesos Caldari Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium Aeternus.	Posted - 2009.03.17 13:53:00 - [25] Surprised it hasn't been mentioned yet but usually yearly I try and do a playthrough of FreeSpace and Tie Fighter. Also there is the Dark Forces series. Operation Flashpoint as well. And X-Wing Alliance. ------------------------------------------------ Your words are as empty as your future. I am the vanguard of your destruction.
Karma Eve University	Posted - 2009.03.17 14:02:00 - [26] Fallout 1+2 cause I enjoy a well-told story more than I do graphics. X-wing and Tie Fighter cause sci-fi simulaters are almost always better than sci-fi action-shooters. Half-Life 1 Cause I can play it for a whole week, rather than just a whole hour. Flashback cause not every game is better in 3D. (looking at you Fade 2 Black!)
Eran Laude Gallente The Astral Order	Posted - 2009.03.17 15:11:00 - [27] I ritually play KotOR I and II at least once a year - possibly the best games evareraererae ----- Originally by: "CCP Whisper" Boo hoo. Cry some more.
Dantes Revenge Caldari	Posted - 2009.03.17 19:30:00 - [28] Originally by: jason hill An I wish that someone would redo the old syndicate series Oh yes, Syndicate rocks. 4 little guys running around in trenchcoats with miniguns and an arsenal of other weapons and upgrades. I like being able to shoot at a car to make the owner run off and then your guy driving off in it. It has to be the original GTA, Rockstar just stole the idea -- Originally by: CCP Whisper No it is not an official statement. Not everything surrounded by blue bars is an official statement which can be quoted as fact until the end of time. Deal with it.
Lord Wamphyri Amarr Starside Lost	Posted - 2009.03.17 20:06:00 - [29] Edited by: Lord Wamphyri on 17/03/2009 20:07:01 Going back a couple of decades I remember playing Shadowfire and The Sentinel on the old Commodore 64, I still play them occasionally on an emulator. Don't know what it is about them, I just love playing them even now! Some others of note: Mercenary The Eidolon Rescue on Fractalus PSI Warrior Gribbly's Day Out Thing on a Spring Damn I feel so old! EDIT: Oh, and Wizball.. how could I forget that? My EVE Tattoo! My Second EVE Tattoo!
Gone'Postal Void Engineers	Posted - 2009.03.17 20:54:00 - [30] Shocked noone said Speedball2 (Not the re-release on steam) But thanks for the replys guys, it interesting to see what keeps others playing the same old games over and over. Originally by: masternerdguy Officer mods arent spread out because the bpos are innacesible to 99% of eve.

Elysarian Minmatar dudetruck corp	Posted - 2009.03.17 21:14:00 - [31] Manic miner... I still to this day occasionally install a Spectrum emulator to play that... and Rebelstar II as well (if you don't know the latter - think the Aliens movie in a turn-based strategy mode). PC games - I still play Civ II and would love to see a remake of the Syndicate series (as long as it's not turned into a bloody Tom Clancy type affair, a-la Rainbow 6, I hate squad games like that). Am I the only one that thinks that the guys who made the "Commando" games played a lot of Syndicate and got it wrong a bit with a WW2-style tribute? ===================================== It smells of spoon! =====================================
laotse Gallente The Flying Dutchmen	Posted - 2009.03.17 22:19:00 - [32] sacrifice homeworld hegemonia freelancer and shogun totalwar played most of them for a long time
Kadavreski Caldari Caldari State Inc.	Posted - 2009.03.17 23:41:00 - [33] I play the old PC-98 games from the touhou project. Yeah, I'm a nerd.
Coruntun	Posted - 2009.03.18 09:23:00 - [34] Great topic. I've been an avid gamer for years now, and I totally have the same want to go back to old games that just captured me. My first few games: Civilization.. Yeah what can I say, earth domination goodness, a game that i still have a copy of and will fire up from time to time. I spent years of my childhood with this game. A game with infinite replay ability and super simple graphics. Warcraft.. My first true RTS and i still remember killing that bastard medhiv or whatever his name was, that game really captured my imagination. X-wing vs Tie Fighter.. One hell of a simulation, i played it for years and got pretty damn good at it, even online. I miss it now as nobody seems to play it, and my copy of the game seems to have long disappeared. Starcraft.. What can I say a timeless classic, was a fun b.net game too, beware of the zerg. To me a good game has depth, and evolution. Graphics can suck as long as the game grabs my imagination and keeps it going. I'm a big wargame and simulation fan. It seems games now have more fluff that true substance. I remember my first time playing a game called Shining Force for sega, now i was a kid mind you, but the story caught me up, and I could feel the genuine emotions from the characters, and my hair would stand on end everytime a character would become possessed by the uber bad guy. Another great old school RPG, Lunar.. anyone ever play that? Great storyline and alot of really good movies and such, hard game to find now. Another game was XenoGear for PS1, that game was alot of epic fun. What happened to uber epic bosses that you really feared. Games today don't seem to have it like they used to. I could remember no matter how good you were or how much you prepared, you were in for a heck of a fight. True there are bosses in alot of games, but for whatever reason, i don't feel like i really need to dispatch them, kinda like there is no emotional connection. When i finish a game, i want to feel something, good, bad, whatever have you. And want to feel a sense of I WON YOU B**CH! As games continue on and get more graphically intense, i hope the developers and such remember why I play a game. And why i will continue to play. And just because you polished a piece of poo, and it's pretty and shiny, doesnt mean it isnt a piece of poo anymore.
HankMurphy Minmatar Pelennor Enterprises	Posted - 2009.03.18 09:51:00 - [35] At least once a month (sometimes once a week) my friend and I get together to play a game of Master of Orion 2 in hotseat mode. /have been doing so for the past 13 years //i always win ///old games 4tw ---------- "This is Chopper Dave's made for TV movie, Blades Of Vengeance. See, he's a chopper pilot by day, but by night he fights crime as a werewolf... YEAH!"
RedClaws Amarr Dragon's Rage Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2009.03.18 10:44:00 - [36] Edited by: RedClaws on 18/03/2009 10:45:02 I've seen many of my favorites got listed already. Freespace 1 & 2 : Fun and the storyline. Diablo 2 : Awesome replayability by classes and "omg a gold item!!" Alien Legacy: Old unknown game I like very much because the storyline differs slightly each time. I'm still planning to do a remake of this one sometime. Heroes of Might and Magic 3 (or the new 5) Imperium Galactica 2 or Galactic Civilizations : Replayability because of the randomness of games. I used to play Diablo 2 and Heroes of Might and Magic with my brother so it gives the game some extra depth for me.
Alpha Prime Destructive Influence KenZoku	Posted - 2009.03.18 11:22:00 - [37] Homeworld 1-2: Because they rock, simple as that. Big messy spacefleetcombat drool Baldur's gate: Probably the game RPG ever released. And those Bladespiders still gives me the chills. Icewind Dale2: Keep comming back to this game. Always a blast breaking the game with 4 instead of 6 in party. Imperium Galactica 2 - Alliances: Building huge fleets. Designing my own ships, conquer worlds... Oveur 2006: We're going to make blobwarfare less effective. Oveur 2008: We're installing better code so players can bring bigger blobs.
ls pos Amarr	Posted - 2009.03.18 12:18:00 - [38] Commander Keen!! Was so damn young when i played it, liked to story behind it. And just explore new things. Really liked the underwater stuff. Oh and Carmageddon series (1st was best though), just brainlessly kill, kick, demolish stuff and pixelated people. Damn i really wasted alot of time on this game. Racing around with the big dumptruck, or get bumped by it and fly through the whole level. Awesome and hilarious. Ah and Worms armageddon, play with friends, so much fun in seeing how far u can explode a worm away.
Reiisha Evolution KenZoku	Posted - 2009.03.18 12:41:00 - [39] Edited by: Reiisha on 18/03/2009 12:41:52 MDK Best game ever. Keep going back to it every time. "If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all"
Jack Thurner SPECTRE Ops Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2009.03.18 16:36:00 - [40] Edited by: Jack Thurner on 18/03/2009 16:39:21 Why? The games are _original_ and fun to play.. There's love in that list =) Settlers 1 & 2 - Logistics be yummeh! Transport Tycoon - Beep! Beep! Pizza Tycoon - Pizza and "black ops" mob-war, whats more to say? :P Dune II and C&C Age of Empires 1-2 - Countless of hours on building farms Baldurs Gate 2 (Ok, its not that old) - Best RPG I've played Day of the Tentacle - This game.. no words can describe it, its awesome! Kings Quest I-VII - <3

Corwain	Posted - 2009.03.18 16:40:00 - [41] Originally by: Jake Silence http://www.thangorodrim.net/variants.html Angband and variants. ASCII game nostalgia. I spent way too much time playing about 5 variants a long time ago. Holy crap, someone else mentioned it before I did! I didn't know we had any other *banders playing EVE. I loved V back in the day, then went through a Z phase, but nowadays if I'm playing an Angband variant I'm doing ToME. -- Distortion\| Distortion 2 Preview
Elora Danzik Caldari Idiots In Spaceships	Posted - 2009.03.18 18:34:00 - [42] Civilization (currently 4) I tend just fall in love with the new one and not look back (too often) Anything Total War. KOTOR I and II NWN through Hoards. Why keep coming back? Cause. Why do you watch say Family Guy or South Park or god the Simpsons? You like it. You find it entertaining for 1 - infinty hours. In my case with Civ, every game is different. Sometimes I prepare for with a certain nation but never go through with it. Other times I don't and get my ass handed to me 100 years later. Sometimes you just conquer everyone. Never Trust and Aztec who is not a vassel. I learn the basics, then try out different things each time. Its different everythime.
billybobbiill	Posted - 2009.03.18 19:27:00 - [43] dungeon keeper and dungeon keeper 2 these 2 games where fantastic and even though its been years since they where released no other game is anything like it to bad that ea took over bullfrog and killed the sequal. orginal ideas is why we go back to old games they had character, all we get now is copy and paste garbage.
DuffmanPeter Perpetua Umbra The Last Brigade	Posted - 2009.03.19 00:55:00 - [44] Super Metroid Super Mario RPG Tales of Phantasia Megaman X,X2,X3,X4 Sword of Mana (Seiken Desetsu, not the GBA remake) Diablo 2 All great games. Never gets old playing them. Also Megaman series along with super Metroid both have amazing soundtracks. Tales of Phantasia is just all out fun running from side to side on the screen jump-stabbing things. Super Mario RPG is a great RPG and is actually really funny. Sword of Mana is another top RPG. They all have great stories and Megaman X series has megaman with armor so you cant go wrong. Imply or Implode? There are many Duffman, don't tell the children... It's disillusioning! Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem!
Menkaure Amarr Vanitas Corp.	Posted - 2009.03.19 02:07:00 - [45] Monkey Island! The day they release any of them (3 was the best, imo) on steam I'm sure I'll cream my pants. :)
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2009.03.19 02:55:00 - [46] B.A.T. all the way baby. Got to love that PC speaker music :)
Sicardae Bad'ia	Posted - 2009.03.19 07:15:00 - [47] run *,8,1 nuff said
Vina Caldari Destructive Influence KenZoku	Posted - 2009.03.19 08:08:00 - [48] it's a shame I don't really have any real screenshots of the game anymore. -----------------------------------
Wrayeth Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams	Posted - 2009.03.19 09:29:00 - [49] Old games I still play: Baldur's Gate I & II + expansions KOTOR I and II Diablo I and II Master of Orion II Master of Magic Starcraft Heroes of Might and Magic III and IV Mechwarrior 4: Mercenaries Aliens vs. Predator II (no relation to the movie, for those who've never played it) Star Wars: Jedi Knight, Jedi Academy For the roleplaying games, the reason I still play them is simple: great story and/or great gameplay. In roleplaying games the essence of the game is pretty much universal; you could massively reduce the graphical quality of a modern RPG and it would still be enjoyable (assuming it was enjoyable in the first place, that is). The same goes for the strategy games I listed above; each of them has unique aspects that make them eminently playable despite their age. Mechwarrior 4 is there because the entire Mechwarrior franchise was absolutely awesome, with gameplay elements you don't really find anywhere else. (I still have my copies of Mechwarrior 2 and Mechwarrior 3 though I can't/don't play them anymore. Also, the original creator of the franchise got the rights back, so we may FINALLY see a new Mechwarrior game for the PC sometime in the future. \o/) As to the last two games on that list, they're something of an anomaly. When it comes to FPS games, the graphics are often a deciding factor to me. When you're in first person view in an action-oriented environment (as opposed to a story/interaction-based or strategy-based environment), the graphics quality really has an effect. It helps add immersion and draws you deeper into the game, heightening your awareness of your in-game surroundings. This leads to much more intense and fun gameplay. All of that said, AvP2 doesn't have the most uber graphics. In fact, they're extremely dated - a lot of the objects in the game are only modeled in 2-D. That said, it's what the design team DID with those limited graphics that was absolutely impressive. The graphics, combined with awesome sound, create the most tense, creepy game I've ever played. Add in a few other items, such as many pitch-black and low-lit areas, flickering lighting, limited charge on your flashlight, the sounds of dripping water, blowing wind, and creaking structures...oh, and ALIENS...and you end up with one of the most environmentally brilliant games in existence, with just about the most immersive atmosphere imaginable. Envision crawling along a pitch-black ventilation shaft with no sound but the hollow clank of metal from your own movements. Your flashlight battery is almost dead, and you're praying it will last until you get to a lighted area. No such luck; it caps out on you, and you stop, waiting for it to recharge sufficiently for use. Of course, it's at this very moment that you suddenly hear the pulsing chirp of your motion tracker (which, like everything else, sounds EXACTLY like it did in Aliens), which now has a tiny white dot...and the volume of your motion tracker quickly intensifies as it moves towards you in the darkness, making a hissing noise. Then there's the Jedi Knight games, which were simply fun, and the graphics aren't (yet) so dated as to be unenjoyable. There's another game I'd add to the list if it wasn't so old that the graphics would be massively pixellated: Hexen. As far as the truly old FPS games, it's most definitely my favorite. The atmosphere and the gothic art direction in the game made it eminently enjoyable for me, and I'd go out and buy it in a minute if they updated the graphics to be fully modern and uber. (I truly enjoy gothic-themed graphics in FPS games, for some reason. On a related note, I wish the newer Unreal Tournament games hadn't gone cartooney and had kept the gothic-looking graphics of many of the leves in the original Unreal Tournament.) -Wrayeth n00b Extraordinaire "Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!"
Math'ra Hiede Amarr Vigilia Valeria Expeditionary Forces	Posted - 2009.03.19 11:22:00 - [50] Ha, old games... hmm.. - EV:Nova (Great game, spent so long on that game.. even ended up making a small mod for it!) - Conquest: Frontier Wars (B'cos spaceships are kewl!) - Need For Speed: Hot Pursuit (B'cos it was full of original win) Other than that my HD is full of modern rubbish like Quake 4, right through to Crysis Warhead and Assasins Creed. Fake Edit: Almost for the old NFS series! slaps himself Originally by:* CCP Greyscale :facepalm:

Dantes Revenge Caldari	Posted - 2009.03.19 15:24:00 - [51] Originally by: Wrayeth On a related note, I wish the newer Unreal Tournament games hadn't gone cartooney and had kept the gothic-looking graphics of many of the leves in the original Unreal Tournament.) The original Unreal was awesome. I loved using the sniper rifle and blowing the heads off those little guys across the bridge. Although a bit corny, I used to laugh when they put their hands up to look for their head and then fell over after they couldn't feel it where it should have been. I agree, the whole feel and ambience was a bit spooky in the original but that only added to the overall effect and made the game worth playing. -- Originally by: CCP Whisper No it is not an official statement. Not everything surrounded by blue bars is an official statement which can be quoted as fact until the end of time. Deal with it.
Askan Sprock Gallente Orias Fringe Enterprises OWN Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.19 15:32:00 - [52] Edited by: Askan Sprock on 19/03/2009 15:34:44 HoMM 1234 Civilization 4 (at least one full game per year) Ascendancy (the music, the inventions, the ship design: basically it's single player eve with the last 'crazy professor' world building part implemented.) Flashback! Cannon Fodder Diablo 2 Scorched Earth And of course: Transport Tycoon Deluxe and Pizza Tycoon (gotta love the pizze with 55 lobsters on it!) Formerly known as Cornucopian (yes... I'm back) 10mil SP to go to my old position.
Asuka Smith Gallente StarHunt	Posted - 2009.03.20 03:33:00 - [53] Edited by: Asuka Smith on 20/03/2009 03:32:46 Diablo 2 Mechwarrior 4 (Speaking of which, we ought to game on with that. I played with a few EVE players over Hamachi in the past and it was a blast!) Syndicate (epic game for sure, I cannot believe they never followed it up) HOM&M3 Armageddon's Blade specifically. and Homeworld 2.
Nefrin Maldoes Minmatar Outer Rim Survey and Salvage	Posted - 2009.03.20 22:57:00 - [54] the original Sierra Adventure Games: Kings Quest Space Quest Police Quest Leisure Suit Larry -I remember sitting at my Compaq 386/33 playing the original Space Quest with my dad. Ahhhh, the memories. Others: Simcity 2000 (before too much micromanagement was introduced) NetHack Not as old, but still worth going back to (Introversion is a brilliant game company): Uplink DEFCON Darwinia
Korodan	Posted - 2009.03.21 01:52:00 - [55] System Shock 2 Oh god, I still have nightmares about this game. The spiders and...the midwives, oh god the midwives. Silent Hill 2 Yet again, scary as hell, no matter how many times you play it, and it has a wonderful atmosphere. Freespace It's so simple - there are angry aliens, you shoot the angry aliens, you shoot the angry aliens before they turn Earth into a glow in the dark glass park. And flying a Hercules was just damn fun...six shots, more then enough to kill anything that moves. Which brings me to... Metal Gear Solid Oh Hideo, how corny your dialogue is. But in the end, that's what makes the game really memorable and fun to come back to. Planescape Torment Best story ever witnessed in a PC RPG, period. Fallout 2 I love the smell of plasma bolts in the morning, smells like victory.
Ruze Ahkor'Murkon Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2009.03.21 02:05:00 - [56] Age of Empires. Originally by: 5pinDizzy Troll Score-o-Meter --------Failure----------\|\|\|-----------Succes------- 10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1--0--1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10
Xan'sibal	Posted - 2009.03.21 07:40:00 - [57] The old games I play most are turn based strategy, which isn't a very popular genre anymore so nothing new comes out. Games like X-COM and Jagged Alliance 2.
Jason Marshall Gallente Hammer Of Light Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2009.03.21 07:50:00 - [58] Edited by: Jason Marshall on 21/03/2009 07:51:50 I still hold out hope that they will make a Free Lancer 2. =( I absolutely loved that game, was just the perfect amount of freedom and story telling. And C&C Red Alert was my first true PC game, i loved RA:2 the most, and constantly find myself trying to get people to lan with me. -_- Tacky Lensflares in sigs ftw
Dantes Revenge Caldari	Posted - 2009.03.21 09:25:00 - [59] Originally by: Asuka Smith Syndicate (epic game for sure, I cannot believe they never followed it up) There was a second Syndicate Wars which didn't have much more than the original in the way of weapons and upgrades but it was still just as much fun. I think there wasn't much in the way of advertising for it which is probably why it didn't sell so well. I only heard about it by way of a bargain bin at my local computer store. -- Originally by: CCP Whisper No it is not an official statement. Not everything surrounded by blue bars is an official statement which can be quoted as fact until the end of time. Deal with it.
Princess Jessica Minmatar Universal Assembler The Assembley	Posted - 2009.03.23 21:27:00 - [60] Edited by: Princess Jessica on 23/03/2009 21:29:03 Alien vs Predator 2 : Rumor has it a 3rd one is coming 2010 \/ Fragile Allegiance : Anyone know of any other games like it? Homeworld 2 : With mods this game is still awesome :) Settlers 2 : A classic which i played for hundreds of hours Black and White 1 : Very innovative, to bad they went to rts like with the second edition Dungeon Keeper 2 : Loved the crossing between rts/god(demon)/fps game /

xHazzarDx Roevhuller i Rummet	Posted - 2009.03.24 00:30:00 - [61] Hmm.. The recipe of a good game for me would be depth in the game, a good story, depending on the game type.. something somewhat original, or something that will leave similar games in the shadow of it.. but regarding old games, i guess its abit of good memories in the mix that makes me get back to them.. maybe a bit of nostalgic feeling towards the games aswell. dont play the following 2 anymore, but they where kinda the first 2 games i tried and loved, back when starting the whole gamer "career", and deserves a mention.. zak mckracken and the alien mindbenders - back in the c64 days, it was my favorite game.. Wizard of wor - was good for "multiplayer" games, and i still remember beating my sister at it. Fallout series - Will never get tired of these. dunno exactly why.. Maybe cause of the setting, environment and the story which was epic back then, and made me love it.. final fantasy - X in particular, somewhat recent, but will always make me come back as long as my ps2 or 3 doesnt crap up on me.. SOOO many hours I've put in that game. Empire earth (the first + expansion, II and III are horse****)- i love the style of it, and the evolution concept in it.. and a great multiplayer game.. warcraft 3 tft - kinda speaks for it self, for those who do play it still.. Heroes of might & magic - still play 3,4 + expansion from time to time.. gran turismo - dont play the original anymore, but imo, the spirit of it have lived on up until now, so the sequels are kinda the same thing.. so yea, i guess thats an "old" game i still play, and will as long as they keep spewing that series at the market. theres some more i used to play alot and loved, but i dont play those anymore.. dunno why though, as i still consider them to be great games, even with their crap ass gfx. like settlers, civilization, diablo 1 + II, Red alert.. Im rabbling on, but i honestly cant tell exactly what makes a, not good, but a great game for me..
10k1e Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2009.03.24 01:22:00 - [62] dungeon keeper 1 xcom tftd/ud freespace 1/2 i-war 2 (independence war physics just amazing) old rpg's heh, to many great things in the past to be named.
Calvin Firenze Minmatar Firenze Heavy Industries	Posted - 2009.03.24 07:08:00 - [63] Edited by: Calvin Firenze on 24/03/2009 07:16:38 Originally by: Gone'Postal What is it about older games that new ones just don't have? Nostalgia. Anyone ever play the old game Stars! ? I did, and even though it offered very little eye candy, it was a whole world of imagination for me. Creating a race of something and seeing it in my minds eye, then going on to conquer and colonize every star in the known universe...I really loved that game when I was a kid and I'd love to get my hands on a copy now, but its damned impossible to find. Another one I'll admit to playing when I was younger was a game called Mordor. Same thing, no eye candy but great for the imagination of a 10 year old kid with a ****ty computer. I actually have a copy now, but its not as fun as it used to be when I was a kid.
10k1e Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2009.03.24 11:41:00 - [64] Edited by: 10k1e on 24/03/2009 11:41:31 btw, if you want to play a fairly new decent game, try The Witcher enhanced edition. and get the book aswell. that game is a **** fest :)
XenoPagan	Posted - 2009.03.24 12:02:00 - [65] well letssee.... old games that are still installed/on shelves are Fallout 1 & 2 - just best non-fantasy RPG created, ever UFO: Terror from the deep - many disagree, but I like the "Terror" more than first installment Arcanum - still coming back to it occasionally Vampire: Bloodlines - game that just oozes style and awesome dialogue from every pixel Angband - yeah, haven't played that in 2 years at least but it's still sitting in my comp hmm... noticed that most of the games I listed are from pre/Troika. Dang they were good, with Looking Glass (Deus Ex, Terra Nova, System Shock etc, ) they were best developers around.
JadeO Caldari W.A.S.P	Posted - 2009.03.24 12:33:00 - [66] Ultima Online, over 10 years old (almost 13, iirc?) The grand-father of MMORPG's. This game still kicks ass because of its mix of game-mechanics complexity and the simplicity of graphics ;) UO, imo, is the living proof that MMORPG's are not about eye-candy graphics. Aside from UO, i play AoE II every now and then, some Quake 3 Arena and I used to play RtCW: ET till the Portuguese servers went down.
Sarah sindoff	Posted - 2009.03.24 17:41:00 - [67] EvE is an old game surely
Thurisaz Prizma Amarr Stronghold of Agony	Posted - 2009.03.24 18:46:00 - [68] Storytime! I don't know if anyone of you have heard of Knight and merchants. A RTS game made of pure freaking win. I remember it so well, I was around 8 or 9years old, and my mom took me to a computer games store - asking what I'd like for Christmas present, since she didn't know anything about games. I went crazy with roller coaster tycoon and said it was the game I definetly wanted, but then my mom showed me KaM and said "Hey, what about this one, you love medival times and knight and all that. Wouldn't this be something for you?", and I replied that I'd much rather have roller coaster. Christmas came, and I recieved roller coaster, I was so happy. But I also recieved KaM, I threw into a corner - and let it collect dust. After a month or two, I got bored with roller coaster. I decided that I'd give KaM a try, I installed it - and I was hooked since second 1. I spend atleast a year playing that game, fantasizing about different strategies. Eventually my friends started to play it aswell, and we took this with us in real life. We spent our time building tree houses, resembling the ones from the game. "Hey, we now have a storehouse to stash our stuff in - we now need an inn we can eat in..." and eventually we assigned persons to be farmers, labourers, carpenters and even blacksmiths. We practically lived in our treehouses that summer, and I've never been as tanned as then. It's a RTS, being extremly sloooooow. It takes around 30minutes to produce your FIRST basic soldier, also your soldiers require food being brought to them, or they'll die. Which means you can't have a large army without a ridiculus amount of food supplies. It's also really complex, for a RTS to produce supplies. For example, to make bread you need to: Build a farm > Make a nice soil to grow wheat on > Wait until the wheat can be harvested > take the wheat to a bakery > a baker makes bread > have a serf pick it up > take it to a inn > eat/bring to soldiers. I suppose that's why I'm still playing it atleast once a month. The complexity, and still simplicity. Not to mention the music fits so perfectly in. Medieval folk music, pleasent, and jolly. I have so many good memories around this particular game, that I could go on for hours. Let's leave it here.
Ranik Sandaris Caldari The Centurions Eternus Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.25 11:45:00 - [69] Edited by: Ranik Sandaris on 25/03/2009 11:45:08 Stronghold. I hit that b.itc.h like it owes me money.
Sqalevon Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2009.03.25 12:05:00 - [70] Starcraft The balance between the races is just perfect and I love to play a few games with my friends or do a bit of compstomp. Halflife Maybe it's the nostalgia but this is the first 3D shooter that I really liked, great pace and smooth gameplay imho, and lanparties with some friends on Crossfire are just the best. Transport Tycoon Deluxe (openTTD) Again a great LAN game to see who can build the biggest empire, all my friends play it too, we have epic networks by the time we switch steam for electric. Soldat This game just nails it for me for multiplayer madness, too much fun, again with friends :) GTA 2 Tag on small city is alot of fun on a lan party :D Serious Sam Stampeding trough maps with a few friends is brilliant. I guess I'm a lanparty player when it comes to older games. Solo I replay Zelda Ocarina of Time once in a while and I recently completed Starcraft+Brood Wars, Homeworld+Cataclysm and Advance Wars again.

Phenglei Kai Caldari A..M..W	Posted - 2009.03.25 14:00:00 - [71] Might and Magic 7 and 8 the Bard¦s Tale 2 and 3(still have never finished 3) Battlefield2(with expansions)(prabably my most favorite game ever) GTA2 and Vice City... Sim City 3000 World Edition There are more,but these are my favorite old games that i still play---great stuff...............Phen
Voltara Mina EverCorp.	Posted - 2009.03.26 08:41:00 - [72] Originally by: Nefrin Maldoes the original Sierra Adventure Games: Kings Quest Space Quest Police Quest Leisure Suit Larry -I remember sitting at my Compaq 386/33 playing the original Space Quest with my dad. Ahhhh, the memories. Others: Simcity 2000 (before too much micromanagement was introduced) NetHack Not as old, but still worth going back to (Introversion is a brilliant game company): Uplink DEFCON Darwinia Finally someone mentioned the old sierra games. My absolute favourites. That is when you could write the commands and not only click options like the revised versiones had. "examine shelf" "look at bush" Was awesome :D But you forgot Gold Rush, the best sierragame ever. And why do we keep returning to the old classics? They had soul. They had good stories, humour, they were inventive. And ofcourse they bring back som nostalgic memories :)When life was without concern. Todays games are pretty much streamlined in both story and graphics. Us "oldtimers" or nerds if you prefer have seen it all before. Todays 3d shooters have awesome graphics, but the stories are worse than they were 20 years ago (i got my first computer 23 years ago ). To make it short. We have seen it all before and again and again and yet ...again. Ppl pick "old games" from 2000. Try the real old games that said "bip" "bip" "bip". I had a C64 with a casette player. We had casettes full of games and we had to adjust a small screw on the player to hit "the right track" Imagine the tension as we prayed that we had adjusted it correctly lol.
Cpt Placeholder	Posted - 2009.03.26 20:26:00 - [73] Originally by: Gone'Postal what makes a good game to you fine people? I usually like games that I find very atmospheric or those that have mixed genres. Deus Ex, System Shock, Sacrifice, Battlezone, Starcraft, Vampire: The Masquerade: Redemption, Knights of the Old Republic, Homeworld, Dungeon Keeper, Aliens versus Predator, etc, etc..
Nefrin Maldoes Minmatar Outer Rim Survey and Salvage	Posted - 2009.03.26 22:38:00 - [74] Originally by: Voltara Mina Finally someone mentioned the old sierra games. My absolute favourites. That is when you could write the commands and not only click options like the revised versiones had. "examine shelf" "look at bush" Was awesome :D But you forgot Gold Rush, the best sierragame ever. ... We had casettes full of games and we had to adjust a small screw on the player to hit "the right track" Imagine the tension as we prayed that we had adjusted it correctly lol. /offtopic I played Gold Rush, but wasn't too fond of it personally. I also don't remember the cassettes that you are talking about. My memories are of having an entire game on a single 3.25" disk and you could play the game off of it, and have room for up to 10 save games. That, and the Bernolli Drives that held 20mb disks the size of a serving platter. I remember how advanced my family thought we were when we upgraded to the 44mb Bernolli drives and the disk was only slightly bigger and thicker than a 5.5" floppy. /end offtopic But I agree, the reasons people go back to the old games are for the stories. Graphics weren't that advanced back when adventure and rpg games were coming out, so in order to sell the game it had to have something else, a story that could get you hooked. Nowadays it's all about the "bling" on the screen and storyline has fallen to second priority, except for a few rare games (recently, Fallout 3 comes to mind that has both great graphics and an immersive storyline). Roberta Williams, Al Lowe, the "Two Guys from Andromeda", the games created by these people will live forever, and will continue to be played, and I for one will introduce my children to gaming through these (if I ever have children) and keep the games alive.
Yikes Destructive Influence KenZoku	Posted - 2009.03.28 02:43:00 - [75] Originally by: Voltara Mina I had a C64 with a casette player. We had casettes full of games and we had to adjust a small screw on the player to hit "the right track" Imagine the tension as we prayed that we had adjusted it correctly lol. I remember doing this, my dad had a whole notepad dedicated to the right game settings. "Attack of the mutant camels, turn 2/3 clockwise" Really old games I still play are any of the Infocom or level 9 text adventures such as Zork - about 30 years old but I still love them!
Gone'Postal Void Engineers	Posted - 2009.03.28 09:05:00 - [76] Originally by: Ranik Sandaris Edited by: Ranik Sandaris on 25/03/2009 11:45:08 Stronghold. I hit that b.itc.h like it owes me money. must admit, thats one game I have but never installed it Got it in a group buy on ebay and never tried it out... Will give it a go this weekend! Originally by: masternerdguy Officer mods arent spread out because the bpos are innacesible to 99% of eve.
Amarrian Alt	Posted - 2009.03.28 11:14:00 - [77] Baldurs Gate 1/2 Icewind Dale 2 BattleZone (Wolverine ftw) Homeworld 2 Super Metroid (SNES) Deus Ex FreeSpace Jedi Academy and Diablo 2 ofc


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