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m0jo
Minmatar Chemical Dependency
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Posted - 2009.03.17 01:21:00 -
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So what's up with Providence? Can anyone give me info about what is currently going on there?
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2009.03.17 01:35:00 -
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my corp's been roaming there a bit lately, fun area
get the impression the locals could use more visitors, don't think they get all that much action :(
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Terena Darkeen
Amarr Quam Singulari Force Of Evil
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Posted - 2009.03.17 02:49:00 -
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http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1025677
Is an interesting video on some action that was going down in the past week over in providence.
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Holy Lowlander
Amarr Lone Star Joint Venture Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.03.17 06:33:00 -
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providence is made up of allied alliances that operate under NRDSI. The area is so develloped that it has about the same amount of stations as a lowsec area ...
The space is relativly low truesec , but alot of neutrals etc. do rat there.
AAA used to play with them but I believe they are now busy in delve..
so idk whats going on right now ..
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Namaraa
Amarr Paxton Industries Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2009.03.17 06:42:00 -
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We continue to get lots of roamers but there hasn't been any sovereignty warfare for months now.
And we're up to 30+ outposts.
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Karn Mithralia
Minmatar Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.03.17 06:57:00 -
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I live in Providence with my bro's in cloaks, we're much loved by the locals.
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MirrorGod
Amarr Heretic Army
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Posted - 2009.03.17 07:21:00 -
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Last roam we did, we had a raven eject with a CN X-L booster on it (after killing about 10 odd of his brosefs over 20 minutes of them coming in 2 at a time) We sold it back to him for 210mil in their own station. I think he's since been ejected from his allaince. [center] |
Easley Thames
Gallente The Maverick Navy PuPPet MasTers
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Posted - 2009.03.17 09:39:00 -
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Well, in our recent "corporate vacation" a portion of our membership decided to setup shop around one of my favorite spots in Domain and, being so close to Prov, we often passed through the area.
My general impression is that it's a rather uneventful time in Providence history. Then again, they like it that way. Sim-city in space (with new stations seemingly every time you turn around) and a steady stream of roamers (for great justice anti-piracy!) and no serious sov challenges to speak of.
Our personal experience was rather exciting. We downed 4 Rorquals, 1 Orca, 5 Freighters, 6 Carriers, 2 Dreads and a ton of "navy issue xyz's" in about a month and a half . We had no capital losses and the sub-cap efficency was not surprisingly in the non-fail-nineties (if you can't maintain normal stats in Prov quit Eve tbh) with more losses to factional police than actual players (some of our newer members had never been blinky before ). However, even the damage we inflicted isn't a big deal to the deeply-entrenched alliances with no serious challenges and tons of neutrals to generate revenue from.
Still, we killed "The Pride of Hilgardia" which was kind of cool since it is a somewhat well-known freighter and this time it was full of moon minerals (sold for billions in Jita, thx guys ). The pilot also lost his Chimera to us in the same week, so I guess our visit was significant for Paxton Fed at least. But, as is evident to anyone who understands Prov, even our efforts are just a blip in the rather steady history of the area's holders.
Perhaps the only organization other then -A- that has actually considered taking space in Prov (and I even doubt that honestly, since Prov is such a great roaming spot for -A-) has been UK. There is (was?) some kind of sov challenge from them in the less-developed part of Catch leading from Sylph space to the EM- constellation (old sov-4 IAC space before it became the empty parking lot it is today). It isn't Prov but that part of Catch falls under CVA's sphere of influence and an attack on one of the lesser alliances is taken seriously by the men in robes.
It seems like UK are living -A- space, which is slightly closer to Prov than their base in the Sound constellation of Curse. Last time I was there Severance had sov where UK had its towers, so I suppose it isn't going well. I think that -A- with help from UK would be more than a match for Prov/Catch forces, but I can't imagine them really doing this. Irrespective of the larger strategic dynamics, I don't believe -A- want Prov to go away, it's too much fun for them to roam there.
-A- do show up as do the random alliances looking for fights but there doesn't seem to be anything interesting to report. As usual the rivers run red with carebear blood and angry (if a bit disorganized) blobs will chase even a T1 frig relentlessly. Haven't been active there since we joined PMS but my friends in the area tell me the overall population appears to be way down as a direct result of interest in wormhole exploration. This goes for roamers and locals alike.
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Neddy Fox
Gallente Paxton Industries Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2009.03.17 10:06:00 -
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Originally by: Holy Lowlander
AAA used to play with them but I believe they are now busy in delve..
so idk whats going on right now ..
Make that Tenerifis..
But yeah, it's boring in Providence when -A- is fighting somewhere else.. Hope they get their sov sorted soon, so they can come back. They're by far the best people to fight against :D
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StainLessStealRat
Caldari Divine Retribution Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2009.03.17 11:05:00 -
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Edited by: StainLessStealRat on 17/03/2009 11:07:02
Originally by: Karn Mithralia I live in Providence with my bro's in cloaks, we're much loved by the locals.
funny thing is we do love you Karn, UK and Mav are the only 2 good pirate/terrorist corps that prov gets nowdays. But missed the Big fights too much so fare well my red friends.
edit. just noticed your new alliance Easley, guess we will be crossing swords again soon.
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Easley Thames
Gallente The Maverick Navy PuPPet MasTers
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Posted - 2009.03.17 11:12:00 -
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Originally by: StainLessStealRat Edited by: StainLessStealRat on 17/03/2009 11:07:02
Originally by: Karn Mithralia I live in Providence with my bro's in cloaks, we're much loved by the locals.
funny thing is we do love you Karn, UK and Mav are the only 2 good pirate/terrorist corps that prov gets nowdays. But missed the Big fights too much so fare well my red friends.
edit. just noticed your new alliance Easley, guess we will be crossing swords again soon.
Thanks for the compliment. I was just about to say "you won't be seeing us as much," too. Are you stalking us or something? In any case, see you on the battlefield once again
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Saaya Illirie
Caldari Core Element Blackguard Coalition
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Posted - 2009.03.17 16:56:00 -
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Originally by: Easley Thames Perhaps the only organization other then -A- that has actually considered taking space in Prov (and I even doubt that honestly, since Prov is such a great roaming spot for -A-) has been UK. There is (was?) some kind of sov challenge from them in the less-developed part of Catch leading from Sylph space to the EM- constellation (old sov-4 IAC space before it became the empty parking lot it is today). It isn't Prov but that part of Catch falls under CVA's sphere of influence and an attack on one of the lesser alliances is taken seriously by the men in robes.
It seems like UK are living -A- space, which is slightly closer to Prov than their base in the Sound constellation of Curse. Last time I was there Severance had sov where UK had its towers, so I suppose it isn't going well. I think that -A- with help from UK would be more than a match for Prov/Catch forces, but I can't imagine them really doing this. Irrespective of the larger strategic dynamics, I don't believe -A- want Prov to go away, it's too much fun for them to roam there.
-A- do show up as do the random alliances looking for fights but there doesn't seem to be anything interesting to report. As usual the rivers run red with carebear blood and angry (if a bit disorganized) blobs will chase even a T1 frig relentlessly. Haven't been active there since we joined PMS but my friends in the area tell me the overall population appears to be way down as a direct result of interest in wormhole exploration. This goes for roamers and locals alike.
I was in SSI prior to the incidents at KW and the rather epic failure of SSI diplomats... The notion that an attack on their puppet alliances being taken seriously by CVA is farcical. CVA declined to assist SSI in the defense of the Catch constellation and allowed U'K to station camp the alliance in the KW station; I believe they even publically seperated themselves from SSI on the forums, or so SSI leadership led me to believe. The only Alliance out there worth a **** is Sylph, CVA is content to live off taxes, permit fuedal unorganized 'anti-pirate' roams by neuts, and charges massive amounts of docking tax isk anytime a non-CVA dread/carrier feels like supporting an op. It's hilarious when they tax your pod after mistakingly killing you in a rare gate camp. As for U'K attempting to claim Sov, I believe it was 2 years maybe 3 when they last had a chance at doing anything more than HAC roams; CVA crushed them pretty thoroughly in one of their now rare capital ops. U'K was trying to nullify SSI sov (in GMLK wasn't it?), not make a bid for territory. U'K are pretty much -A- alts and/or puppets.
Within CVA's more civilized space it's relatively calm; though for 0.0 the people there are way too lax about warping to safespots when neuts enter system. Easy pickings are to be had as most people are ratting underskilled battleship pilots and darwin fit for L4 sansha-specific missions not pvp. The accessibility of CVA's intel channel and it's lack of protocol means that it's easy to get blue intel on gate camps; making it easy for the intelligent NBSI (read: 'pirate') alliance to roam. CVA does maintain a cap fleet in conjunction with it's satellite states; and only -A- would be poised to take them. Even Goons didn't mind so much that CVA existed, I never once saw a Goon kill in Providence (pass through yes tho) Suffer not the insufferable to live. |
Sandwich PvP
Caldari The Maverick Navy PuPPet MasTers
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Posted - 2009.03.17 17:33:00 -
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TBH, prov got boring fast. Not that there was a lack of targets, but some of the targets were so sad that I was embarrassed to be on the killmail. Ravens with heavy missles and no tank? Seriouly CVA, if your going to let all those nubs roam your space, at least make them take a class in ship fitting.
Wait. We are terrorists now? When did that happen? I demand a recount! We were told we were carebears 2nd class!
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Garreck
Gallente Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.03.17 17:34:00 -
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Originally by: Saaya Illirie
The notion that an attack on their puppet alliances being taken seriously by CVA is farcical. CVA declined to assist SSI in the defense of the Catch constellation and allowed U'K to station camp the alliance in the KW station; I believe they even publically seperated themselves from SSI on the forums, or so SSI leadership led me to believe.
SSI, an organization most CVA leadership knew simply as a resident of Providence (not an ally, not a "puppet alliance," not anyone of special note, just another of many organizations who grew in Providence then packed up to do bigger, better things when they decided it was time) put themselves in a very bad postion. Without strategic agreements with anyone, they set up an outpost on the borders of -A- space.
CVA was never under any obligation to intervene in any way. When the SSI threads started on intergal, most CVA members (and some leadership) had to do some info digging to even figure out who you guys were and why we should care that U'K was abusing you in Catch. I suppose that's not a terribly sensitive thing for me to say, but it was the reality. CVA has a very specific interest in Providence and we fairly blindly protect any well behaved neutral organization there. When organizations leave Providence, we don't tend to track their progress or attempt to expand our influence to where ever that organization may go to continue the same degree of protection. If SSI leadership felt we were obligated to continue keeping a watchful eye on them as the moved out of our space, into Catch, and set up shop right next to CVA's most deadly and easily-capable-of-wiping-us-out enemy, that was SSI's fairly obvious miscalculation, not CVA's laziness or whatever it is you're trying to paint us as.
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Karn Mithralia
Minmatar Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.03.17 23:57:00 -
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Originally by: Saaya Illirie U'K are pretty much -A- alts and/or puppets.
Grasp on reality 0/10
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Kaotic
Gallente Balls Deep Inc.
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Posted - 2009.03.18 01:13:00 -
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The providence area is a very fun area to roam :) 200+ kills the past 2 weeks for my 18 person pvp corp.
more fun ahead
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StainLessStealRat
Caldari Divine Retribution Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2009.03.18 02:00:00 -
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Edited by: StainLessStealRat on 18/03/2009 02:00:03
Originally by: Sandwich PvP TBH, prov got boring fast. Not that there was a lack of targets, but some of the targets were so sad that I was embarrassed to be on the killmail. Ravens with heavy missles and no tank? Seriouly CVA, if your going to let all those nubs roam your space, at least make them take a class in ship fitting.
Wait. We are terrorists now? When did that happen? I demand a recount! We were told we were carebears 2nd class!
UK like to be called terrorists hence i seperated the two. Next time i give props mabey i should list certin pilots ,as TBH never seen you in Prov
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Ironnight
Caldari x13 X13 Alliance
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Posted - 2009.03.18 02:02:00 -
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Not much is up, but it is a nice place to hang out CVA is a nice bunch and there are targets around.
They're like 'oh **** son, its a trap *Doomsday* |
Balthazarra
Minmatar Baptism oF Fire Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2009.03.18 02:27:00 -
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i popped into providence a couple weeks ago, had some fun, was a great stress reliver but you know... some of the things i did werent too... you know :P "un-piraty" so blah anyways ive stayed away for the past little while tho it was a fun place to pop around, local tends to be talkitive which is good when your bored and cant find ppl to shoot
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Janu Hull
Caldari Terra Incognita Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.03.18 04:58:00 -
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God I miss Providence some days. Great place to stretch your legs in no sec before jumping headfirst into the steaming pile of sovreignty. It might be "crap" space, but the kind of place its become because of that perception makes it all the more enjoyable. Its like EVE's own little Casablanca. In the event of an emergency, my ego may be used as a floatation device.
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shanda captison
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.03.18 07:19:00 -
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Originally by: Garreck
Originally by: Saaya Illirie
The notion that an attack on their puppet alliances being taken seriously by CVA is farcical. CVA declined to assist SSI in the defense of the Catch constellation and allowed U'K to station camp the alliance in the KW station; I believe they even publically seperated themselves from SSI on the forums, or so SSI leadership led me to believe.
SSI, an organization most CVA leadership knew simply as a resident of Providence (not an ally, not a "puppet alliance," not anyone of special note, just another of many organizations who grew in Providence then packed up to do bigger, better things when they decided it was time) put themselves in a very bad postion. Without strategic agreements with anyone, they set up an outpost on the borders of -A- space.
CVA was never under any obligation to intervene in any way. When the SSI threads started on intergal, most CVA members (and some leadership) had to do some info digging to even figure out who you guys were and why we should care that U'K was abusing you in Catch. I suppose that's not a terribly sensitive thing for me to say, but it was the reality. CVA has a very specific interest in Providence and we fairly blindly protect any well behaved neutral organization there. When organizations leave Providence, we don't tend to track their progress or attempt to expand our influence to where ever that organization may go to continue the same degree of protection. If SSI leadership felt we were obligated to continue keeping a watchful eye on them as the moved out of our space, into Catch, and set up shop right next to CVA's most deadly and easily-capable-of-wiping-us-out enemy, that was SSI's fairly obvious miscalculation, not CVA's laziness or whatever it is you're trying to paint us as.
Yet you still felt the need to send a 400 (?) man combined providence fleet to remove our epicly stolen towers.
Spoiled all our fun tbh. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected]) |
Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.03.18 08:33:00 -
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There is some truly clueless posting in this thread, and unfortunately I don't think its just trolling.
UK never made a play for space in that arse-end of Catch that used to be occupied by SSI. We stole a couple of towers which were unanchoring, and anchored/onlined/armed them in their own systems, then had two months of lulz and killed about 85bn worth of ships. Was truly great fun.
I'd recommend this course of action to anyone, seeing the Providence monkeys flap around for 60 days before finally organising a 500 man blob to take them out was pretty great stuff.
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.03.18 09:42:00 -
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Originally by: Karn Mithralia
Originally by: Saaya Illirie U'K are pretty much -A- alts and/or puppets.
Grasp on reality 0/10
confirming I am DHB's main ----------
AKA 'Bitter Dog'
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Siobhan
Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.03.18 11:20:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog
I'd recommend this course of action to anyone, seeing the Providence monkeys flap around for 60 days before finally organising a 500 man blob to take them out was pretty great stuff.
Garreck has already stated the CVA position in relation to SSI. If you want to call it flapping around then do so.
Results matter and - thanks to Ushra'Khan's efforts in terrorising SSI - a CVA Holder (s3verance) has acquired a new Outpost in Catch. Now a new constellation is being fortified for the Amarrian Empire, enhancing the security of Holy Amarrian Providence.
In general Holy Amarrian Providence is a haven of tranquility in a lawless galaxy and as such is the most densely populated 0.0 space in the universe. Those who pay attention to the relevant intel channels can generally mine, hunt or trade in 100% security.
Nevertheless Providence is to some extent a victim of its own success. The security provided by CVA and our Holder friends means that all but the smallest, most covert, hostile gangs are rapidly hunted down and destroyed. This security has attracted pilots from across the universe many of whom are 'younger' pilots learning the ropes. In addition, the relative security can also engender a sense of 'carelessness' amongst other residents who should know better.
So yes - clever solo raiders and small gangs can achieve kills in our space - indeed I would be surprised if they didn't. This is not a sign of CVA or Holder weakness but a testament to the our success in providing enough security and stability - making Providence the most populated 0.0 region in EVE.
The CVA has never promised residents 100% security in Holy Amarrian Providence - indeed it is impossible to provide 100% security even in Empire space. We rely on our neutral residents to 'evolve' self reliance and 'smarts' themselves. Raiders are simply another part of the evolutionary process and if they help trim the 'evolutionary' fat then so much the better.
If anyone is interested in learning more about CVA and our policies then I would suggest you visit http://www.cva-eve.org/ and read the Guide/FAQ section. -------------- Avenging Angel -------------- |
Misanth
Amarr RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
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Posted - 2009.03.18 11:47:00 -
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Originally by: Siobhan If anyone is interested in learning more about CVA and our policies then I would suggest you visit http://www.cva-eve.org/ and read the Guide/FAQ section.
You need to update that section. I had some less-experienced (noobs) friends that were interested in mining in Providence, on behalf of them (as I'd take them into this corporation) I sent a diplomatic EVE-mail (in character) after spending alot of time researching your forums, trying to find the right contacts, etc.
The response I got was, let's say, arrogant and ignorant. I've got to say it was probably the most effective way of confirming that CVA is just like the rest of EVE, which isn't really a bad thing, but something that wasn't expected.
Spending time to be nice/respectful to CVA, and especially trying to find information/contact public channels is a waste of time. I'd recommend people rather spend that time killing you guys, seems like a more apropriate approach.
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Siobhan
Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.03.18 11:53:00 -
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What an appropriate alliance name ^^^
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.03.18 12:32:00 -
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Originally by: Siobhan
Results matter and - thanks to Ushra'Khan's efforts in terrorising SSI - a CVA Holder (s3verance) has acquired a new Outpost in Catch. Now a new constellation is being fortified for the Amarrian Empire, enhancing the security of Holy Amarrian Providence.
We should organise more joint ops, was pretty successful tbh ----------
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Siobhan
Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.03.18 12:37:00 -
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yep, it's like the old 'bad cop, good cop' routine -------------- Avenging Angel -------------- |
Major Buttache
Amarr Coded Arms Coded Arms Alliance
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Posted - 2009.03.18 12:46:00 -
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Originally by: Kaotic The providence area is a very fun area to roam :) 200+ kills the past 2 weeks for my 18 person pvp corp.
more fun ahead
Seriously? You notch your bedpost in Prov AND call yourself a pvp corp?
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Callum545
Caldari F.R.E.E. Explorer Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.03.18 14:06:00 -
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Originally by: Sandwich PvP TBH, prov got boring fast. Not that there was a lack of targets, but some of the targets were so sad that I was embarrassed to be on the killmail. Ravens with heavy missles and no tank? Seriouly CVA, if your going to let all those nubs roam your space, at least make them take a class in ship fitting.
Wait. We are terrorists now? When did that happen? I demand a recount! We were told we were carebears 2nd class!
lol ravens with heavy missles wat next a rokh wiv lasers
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